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Just curious, does anyone know how Tobin gets his info? It's amazing that he knows so much, and I'm wondering exactly how he knows it! Also, I'm not a subscriber, so does anyone know his track record, and how acurate he has been in the past?
TIA
Congratulations, Success! You no-doubt deserve the postion as moderator. You are extremely helpful, and all of your efforts are greatly appreciated!
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Whoa!! It sure is 'L-O-U-D' all of the sudden! What a day!! Yes, boknows1, I read your post! I was afraid I'd 'Jinks' myself if I posted my thoughts! But I did believe you we're right!! The shares of this stock get sucked back up just as fast as they are spit out!! So, I figured we see 20 again today!!
And yes, regarding the NEWS FLASH on the S4--It's in WRITING!!
'SETTLEMENT OPPORTUNITIES'!!! Thanks Yellowjacket!!
Congatulations everyone, on a GREAT DAY, and many more to come!!
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Success, yes that is true. I wish I could remember the link, but I was reading up on quite periods a few months ago. There was an interesting article regarding them, and how they affect investors, especially, the 'little guy'. This article was stating, that the law regarding quiet periods, needs to be changed. It's apparently a law written in the 1930's.
Anyway, it went on to say, that the dead silence, that in some cases, can go on for months, Leaves investors in the cold, completely. This, of course leads to panic, and then, many to sell. Then eventually, the company 'opens up', finally, and the stock soars, and those that were too fearful to hang on, from lack of communication, were left in the dust.
Unfortunately, until the law is changed, as this article stated, this will continue to happen, because companies have to watch every word that leaves their lips, or face serious charges from the SEC.
If you do a search on Quiet Periods, you may find this write-up. I just can't remember the site it was on.
It was interesting, though, to say the least.
Thank You cabbie. Yes, at this point, all we can do is hope. Although I feel pretty good about everything, there is always that other 'little' voice reminding me of the 'flip-side'.
However, when I start to feel doubtful, I remind myself of the fact that this tech is huge in other parts of the world. The U.S. is usually a lot slower moving at accepting new things. But NEOM holds the patents for this huge, popular tech, that I feel is about to make a grand enterance here at home.
Plus, SAIC, FCB and the others, IMO, wouldn't even consider NEOM, if they didn't think that what they have is something good. IMO, they are seeing NEOM as one big dollar sign.
BTW, SAIC was my final deciding factor, when I bought in. I have a family member that worked for them as a chemist. Let me just say, that is one GOOD company. They don't fail.
Thanks for the nice post!
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Yes, great, insightful post. Thank You! eom.
OT- Yes movieguy. Our boys in orange got 'spanked and put to bed without any supper'. I couldn't bear to watch. Thought they might come back for a while there, but no deal.
Oh, well. Maybe next time!
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Cabbie, just one more quick point, and then I'm done, I promise! I see your point about how managements of all companies tend to show confidence. Yes that's true. But if you look deeper into a lot of situations, you can usually tell if it's a false sense of confidence, as opposed to genuine, IMO, simply by what they have going on at the time, and what their plans of action are. Sometimes, you can just see right through them, IMO. Although time will tell, of course, but I feel that NEOM is genuine.
Also, back to my earlier comments. I have always been a Warren Buffet and Peter Lynch fan. When my friends were reading steamy Danielle Steel books, I reading about these guys. I have followed all of thier advice, and have done well with all of my other investments. I never wanted to own a penny stock, though. Too afraid. I always wondered, as rich as those guys are, if they had ever own some pennies. A few years ago, I found out that they did! But I couldn't figure out how they 'found' the 'good' companies to get into early. Then, I found out what they look for. Well, of course, I couldn't find a company like that.
Then I found NEOM. And yes, Neom has just about every quality that Peter looks for. Give or take a few, of course. Current financials being one of the takes at the moment. But this is where the BELIEVING comes in.
I guess that's why I get a little defensive when guys like 'Matt K', and others take such a generalized attitude toward penny stocks. Because if they refuse to even research some of them, then their followers could be missing out. Because it's obvious that 'some' of them DO hit make it big. Just ask Peter!
Anyway. Yes it's risky, and I knew that when I bought in. And yes I've had my share of rattled nerves. But with or without rattled nerves, I'm glad I made the move.
Here's to a new day!
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Cabbie, Thanks, and I'm sorry for getting so fired up. Hey, I don't want to give the impression, that 'I'm so great' as you say. I was just letting you about my interaction with MotleyFool.
It is true that 'some' over at Motley Fool were probably already aware of Peter Lynch. I however received a return e-mail from Tom Garner, the 'Hidden Gems Guy', that disputed the fact that Peter Lynch had once owned Home Depot, as a penny, and also, any penny stocks that he had owned, were probably not actually 'penny stocks' when he bought in. That's not true. I don't know the exact price he (Peter Lynch) paid for Home Depot , but regardless, he was in at the very beginning, because he BELIEVED in their company. I will say, though, that Peter Lynch DID own Amazon and Starbucks as pennies, and apparently many other companies as pennies, as well. At the time, I was simply asking Motley Fool why they were so down on 'All' penny stocks, when one of the richest men in the world has owned many of them. And judging from their recent article, either they were'nt fully aware of that, or they finally decided to do more research, and then write about it. After all, the beginning of the article, they seem to admit that they 'normally steer clear' of penny stocks, but then go on to say that maybe they are not always a bad move, after all.
My point is, they were down on penny stocks in general at that time. They said they prefer to wait until a stock is around 7/share. Well if that's the case, you're not exactly getting in at the beginning, huh? I thought that recent article of theirs was quite ironic, considering my past conversations with them.
That's all. I wasn't trying to appear 'Great' as you said. Like I said, I was just a little fired up after reading your
post, and I appologize.
BTW, thanks for clarifing 'tunes' for me! I have kids, so the word 'Toon' as in 'Toon Disney', etc, has been engraved in me.
Best Wishes
alynnb
Yep. That's the way I see it too!
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Chucker, it was post#8684, on 3/23. eom.
Spanky, 1.) I don't think the 8k is possitive either. 2.) Yes, your broker not able to work with you, would make me crabby, too. And 3.) The Vodka. I can relate. After today, I think we could all use some! However, I'm a wine girl myself. (And a nice cold bottle of Bud every now and then doesn't hurt either)! But hey, it all does the trick!
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Yep, I agree. As a matter of fact, I have a hunch that SEVERAL things are going on. I'm not saying that we will hear about them all at once, but I'll bet there is more than one thing about to take place.
Also, I'm sure that management IS concerned about its shareholders, but during this time, required by law, there is absolutely nothing they can say. Plus, like you said, they have a lot more to focus on right now!
The day JP mentioned that he had 'just found out that NEOM was in a quiet period', put a lot of things in perspective for me.
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See, everyone. It's awfully q-u-i-e-t around NEOM these days. No PRS, no return e-mails, etc, etc. Typical 'quiet period' behavior. Sure, MOBL sent indepth letters to their shareholders. Very nice of them. However, it appears that they have nothing major going on at the moment, that would require them by law to remain 'Quiet'.
Now, I'm not familiar with what MOBL has going on, but I do know that SEC rules apply to every company, and if there was a major aquisition of some sort, or other major event about to take place with them, they would have to remain quiet as well.
So, we can sure bet that something is brewing, IMO.
Thanks, Chucker. Thats GRATELY appreciated. I'll have you know, that took a HUGH amount of concentration, and I had to be QUITE and think!
Okay, this is getting QUIET confusing!
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You're right, Chucker! I agree! This is all about to come together. I don't know if anyone has e-mailed management, I'm sure they have been receiving many. The question is, have they answered anyone? If not, then I feel it's obvious that we are still in an official 'Quiet Period',( I typed slower this time, Personalizit):), because they are usaully pretty good about getting back with people. Plus the fact that there has been no PRs. (Yes, the FCB pr, but that was also out publically in the SEC filing).
Anyway, as bad as today was, I feel it is a sign of good things to come. And for those that hung in there, and especially those that took advantage of the good buying opp., I feel will soon be rewarded. Just my opinion of course, but it's all making sense to me.
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OT-Your're right, I didn't realize it. Oops! And, Yes I know exactly who you're talking about! Luckily, that's not a very HUGH mistake, but funny, no less!
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OT-Personalizit, I sure did spell 'Quiet' wrong 'Quite' a few times, huh? Sometimes, I can get 'Quite' fired up, and my spelling can 'Quietly' suffer 'Quite' a few times when I'm 'Quite' fired up! Also, I'm not 'Quite' good at staying 'Quiet' when I'm 'Quite' fired up! So, I'm 'Quite' sorry.
Boy, that was 'Quite' tough!
Cheer up everyone, tomorrow will be 'Quite' another day! (And hopefully not so 'Quiet')!
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I wonder if it's just a 'left over' trade from before the close?
Yes, Movieguy, just so you know, I did mean 'Quiet'!
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Yes, Personalizit, I meant 'Quite'. It's so quite, that it's actually hurting my ears!
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Thank you JP! Just what I suspected. Stock prices tend to fall during 'quite periods' as everyone here probably knows. If the quite period lasts a little too long, a lot of people start to get nervous, and of course end up selling. It looks like that's whats happening. People aren't happy with the recent filing, and management continues to remain silent. In this case 2+2=SELL for many investors, IMO.
And, cabbie, yes I've had my share of 'rattled nerves'. But I can guarentee you, I'm very happy with what I have, and what I own. It's amazing what extensive research will do. And yes, a little bit of 'intuition' goes a long way as well. So the boys over at MotleyFool, in this case, IMO, really are 'fools'. (But, oh, yeah, I forgot, they seem to like penny stocks now).
Thanks again JP!
Okay, now that I've caught my breath. I have no idea whats been posted today, so there might be a post about this. I apologize if there is. But is there a possibility that we are still in the 'quite period'? Maybe the FCB PR was made because, they are able to put out PRs along with SEC filings? Just wondering. With the silence that still seems to be going on, I'm wondering if the quite period is still in full force. With the aquistion of BSD about to be finalized, I can see why they have to remain 'quite'. People are obviously panicking, and this 'quite' period, if it is one, is probably helping to 'stir the pot'.
Whoa cabbie, those are some harsh words! I was impressed with what Lebon, mactex, and personalizit had to say. Those words that were spoken by nmanagement, or whoever it was, were relayed back to us here on the board. I took it as management having confidence in what they are doing. I just got in, have no idea whats going on today. Looks like it's been a rough one. I must say, though, that you have no idea what I've invested, nor should it matter to you. There was a lot of up-beat info that came from CTIA. I took it to heart, and I see nothing wrong with that. Yes, I asked a question several months ago on Motley Fool. They told me that they don't consider penny stocks at all. And that they usually don't even consider recommending a stock until it is 7.00/sh. Well, I responded via e-mail to them, and reminded them of Peter Lynch, one of the richest men in the world, and I TOLD THEM ABOUT HIS HISTORY OF OWNING PENNY STOCKS. Well low- and behold, several months later, they have an article on their website about penny stocks, and how they might not always be so bad!!
So don't sit here and tell me how they 'warned me'!! Looks like they have changed their toon a little since they met me, huh??
Yes, I think we were all surprised. Thanks for the response!eom.
Hello, JP. Hope you enjoyed your trip! Glad you're back. I have a feeling that a lot of folks here on the board have been eager to get your take on all of this. (Talk about getting right back to work, huh?)
Quick question regarding your sentence about forward splits, reverse splits and buy-backs. Are you implying that you feel management is planning on doing something about the dilution, such as buy-back? (or,reluctantly speaking, a reverse split?) I know you have said that management won't reverse, but I'm wondering what you meant by that sentence.
Also, how do you feel about the comment that apparently was made about 'dilution being forgotten once we see $5 or $10/sh?
Do you feel that they think the dilution will take care of itself, with massive buying, or IYO, do you think they plan on buying shares back? I look at that comment as a sign of confidence, but now I'm wondering exactly what they could've meant.
Don't mean to smack you with a question as soon as you get back! Just curious, though.
TIA!
alynnb
'If' the statement was made about dilution being forgotten at 5/10/or $20 dollars/sh, one can assume that what was meant by that statement is, that Management feels that serious revenues may be headed their way soon, which will bring the value of NEOM up greatly, which will bring more investors in, (including institutions), which will suck up thousands, even millions of shares, which will put an end to the dilution. This, to me, is a sign of confidence, rather than 'poor salesmanship'.
However, I could be missing something here, But I don't think I am.
Yes, the speculating gets old. But unfortunately that's all we have. Management is not allowed to discuss anything that has not been put in a PR. If they do, the SEC will rain on their parade!
Agreed. Plus, I'm not sure if we can get much of an objective opinion any way, at this point. An 'objective' person just learning of NEOM might probably take one look at their current financials, and say 'no way'! I believe that is happening quite often, which is ONE reason why the pps is still where it is. However, if that same person, would dig a little deeper- beyond the financials, they would see the potential here.
At this point, it still boils down to 'believers' and 'non-believers', and a few in-between. Not a whole lot of objectivity, yet, IMO.
Excellent post alexandre! Thank you. I agree 100%!!
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cloud8, post # 3855 by ifitlooks is great. I actually printed it out to keep in my files. It is Tobin Smith, and his description of NEOM. Of course, he is trying to get people to by his newsletter, but never the less, it is a good post.
There have been many great posts here, but another one I printed out, was JPs post #3468. It was after the shareholders meeting. Very good post. It's a little old, and somethings are a little different than predicted, but still very good.
BTW, thanks ifitlooks and JP!
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ifitlooks, Great Refresher. Thanks! It's interesting that management talked of a possible 'Test Market' in New York. FCB is located in New York, and CTIA was before the FCB announcement.
Note how CONFIDENT management appeared when they were talking to Le bon, Personalizit, and Mactex at CTIA. They seem to confidently suggest, that money will be a non-issue, once all of these balls start rolling. (It's easy to forget these details, when so much time goes by).
Like I have said, I believe that there are many things going on behind the scenes, that we are unaware of. And the energy and confidence that management seems to be exhibiting is, IMO, a sign of good things to come, in possibly the very near future! Also, the fact that they now have access to a lot of money, even if it is from Cornell, is another sign of good things to come, IMO.
I have a couple of comments about the dilution. Is it possible that management knows, that dilution will be a non-issue within the next several months/couple of years? After all, Institutions usually don't even consider buying into a stock until it's a least 5.00/share. (Sometimes 7.00/sh). Once institutions really start knocking, these shares are going to be sucked up so fast, our heads will spin. For all we know, the institutions are on the porch already, with their finger on the door bell, getting ready to push, and NEOM could be well aware of this.
I recently posted something I found on Pennystocksweekly.com. They hold NEOM in their TOP FIVE list of companies to be re-listed within two years. They feel that NEOM is a company that, can get back to NASDAQ, regardless of their high number of shares, because of the institutional support they have received, and they WILL be receiving. Didn't someone in management say at CTIA that the 'dilution will be forgotten once we get to 5 or 10 dollars a share? Well, that's interesting, because that's when insitutions are able to get in.
My question is HOW are we going to get to 5.00/sh, so institutions can and will get on board? Virgin Suit over? Licensing agreements, Word Registry Launch? BSDS merger complete? Exposure from FCB? I feel it has to be a combination of all of those, and other things as well. If all of these things start to come together soon, I think we can get closer to a dollar. But without MONEY, many of these things can't happen. So right now, MONEY is what they need, and MONEY is what they'll get, even if they have to use Cornell.
Management knows something. Actually, they know ALOT, IMO, and of course, they can't tell us due to SEC rules. I've had my concerns in the past, mainly because I thought they needed to focus on more marketing. Well, they are definitely focusing on that! I have found, however, that these guy's aren't stupid, and they know what they've got to do.
So, that little comment that someone posted that was made by management at CTIA about how 'The dilution will eventually be forgotten' has really stuck with me. This app. is so 'killer', IMO, that probably EVERY instituion is going to want in, and IMO, NEOM already knows this.
I could be wrong here, but I thought I'd give my thoughts on all of this. Time will tell.
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Cloud, JP has been on vacation with his family since last weekend.
It's not unusual for MMs to move a price up a little at closing. (to spark interest, IMO).
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Great post, movieguy. And thanks for the kind words. I agree with everything you said. On the surface, this may not look good, but I believe they know what they are doing. I also believe we are very close to many things coming together. Possibly all at once.
It takes money to make money, as they say. And 'they' also say that sometimes you have to 'beg, steal or borrow', to get what you want. Management wants this to work, and they are doing what it takes to make that happen.
Thanks again for the kind words.
alynnb
Regarding a few posts on RB: I have no idea if that was MY question for sure. He (Matt) stated that he KEEPS GETTING questions about NEOM from many investors. Let me tell you, though, that the e-mail I DID send him several weeks ago, was VERY long, and involved, and VERY detailed about NEOMS patents, and all of the developements that have taken place, including their relationship with SAIC, INTEL, NOKIA, BIG GIG, and all of the others. This e-mail of mine went ON and ON. I told him, that he seems to keep a 'GENERALIZED' attitude about penny stocks in general, and was giving un-informed opinions.
Actually, mine was not even a question, I wanted to let him know about NEOM, and how he was doing his readers a diservice by keeping such a negative, and generalized attitude, about NEOM, only because they are OTC at the present time.
But like I said, he said he 'keeps getting questions about NEOM'. So, many of his readers must be curious. Matt Krantz, however, could obviously care less about doing the proper research, he sees the financials only, and answers his questions according to those facts only.
Yes, it's true. I read it quite a while back, and it was also recently mentioned in an article on Motley Fool.com. I believe he owned Amazon when their pps was. The article on MotleyFool mentioned that he (Peter Lynch), takes his kids to the mall, and waits to see what they like, and makes some of his investing decisions based on that. He figures if his kids will like it, others will too! Great way to do DD huh?
Fair enough. I agree. I asked that question a a long time ago, just out of curiosity. He has a 'generalized opinion' about OTC stocks in general, I have found.
You said NEOM doesn't need that kind of attention. I agree. But one thing I noticed from his write up today, is that he stated that he 'keeps getting questions about Neomedia'. That is interesting. That, in itself can spark some curiosity for new investors reading that, so, his 'bashing' just may back fire on him.
BTW, since he has such a 'bad' opinion of OTC stocks, I pointed out to him that Peter Lynch has owned more that 25 penny stocks through the years. (Amazon, starbucks, and Home depot, to name a few). So, I 'suggested' that he re-think his 'generalized attitude' about all OTC stocks.
Hey, I think you should calm down. I had had a legitemate question for him. I was curious if his thoughts had changed with all of the new developements. He sent me and ALL CAPS e-mail, describing their financial situation- (as if I don't already know).
This has nothing to do with whether or not I need to 'calm down' as you say. That guy does nothing for me one way or the other. I feel, however, that he made a fool out of himself for writing an opinion about a company that he obviously knows nothing about.
It appears as though YOU are the one that need to 'calm down'.
Kokonutguy, I believe that was Matts answer to MY question! I got an e-mail last week saying he was going to have a reply on his site.
What a clown!! he doesn't even know what he's talking about!! Believe me, I e-mailed him today, Mocking his statement about NEOMS 'contraption'!! He e-mailed me back in all caps! All he is going by, is their financials. He has no clue about their technology, and what they are doing, and that is obvious by his comments. He has made a fool out of himself IMO!
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