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ya I know
it did go from .23 to .34 and then the market went to crap. Most juniors got devastated. Blln only lost about half it's value, so that's not bad all things considered. Since you switched sides, I did the same. It's the deceptive advertising the pi$$es me off. I would prefer coming soon, than fixing a date, having the PPS rise, launch date fails and the PPS tanks. That is extremely disrespectful to investors who are buying in based on what Qtrax says they are going to do. I don't mind taking a long term view, but watching the stock get manipulated based on false representation is not kosher. All I know is they better have al their' technical issues ironed out as stated.
I don;t mind your' posts
don;t know why it upsets people so much. But you did lose credibility when you said warner would never be signed. And you also said you would disappear if they did get singed. Had you not made those two mistakes, your' posts would have more legitimacy. But alas...
the answer you will get
Ak has accomplished something no one else has, deals with the big four for free downloads, with few strings attached (other than drm). AK is securing deals around the world, and when we launch in 10 countries, this will be bigger than apple pie. So far so good. Question is when will we launch?
from .030 to .021
I don't call that holding up too well
I would have to agree
the pumpers are not willing to take responsibility for what they post. Instead they disappear, or threaten to disappear with all their' "great "info. I asked the board who thought we were launching this month as stated on splash page. Nobody answered because you are all afraid to look at reality. Notice how the PPS goes up before every supposed launch? Who do you think is profiting from that? Don;t you think it's irresponsible for the company to announce a launch, the PPS goes up, no launch happens, and people get screwed? That being said, this should start to go up as we reach towards the end of the month. If it doesn't , that means the market doesn't even believe them any more.
question
why do we still owe warner cash? Was this from the first contract, a difference that hadn't been paid yet? Also, how many here think we'll launch this month?
let's hope so
not many days left in may. We'll see of they can stick to their' word this time around.
Market looks indecisive, though somebody wanted in at all costs this morning.
thanks Darth, I think I'm going to KFC after that speech
Who really cares about Qcrap? You guys seem to insist he is an issue. Crappies' problem is he gets drunk by noon. I think if my cup was half full, I wouldn't be investing in QTRAX just to be sure. If I had the extra money I would do it, but not just to be sure. Meaning, if you are buying QTRAX shares just to be sure, you are not altogether sure about blln. Maybe we should find out where we stand with our little bit of the near billion OS blln pie. That Obi one character foreshadows a roll back. How about you Sirrocco? Is Obi One out to lunch on this?
good post
keep going. I have only been here since march 2008, so that is way less than half way through. I would love to hear the answers to the questions you just asked.
good to hear it
I know there were 50 people on the last blln CC from a month or so ago. The only CC I was ever on, was listen only. (not blln) What did you mean by "You MAKE your own chance to ask questions,and be prepared when you get a chance to have a conference call, and if the people in the queue ahead of you won't ask the questions, then get them out of the way," Are you saying you can just barge in on the conversation? I agree the economy is pretty scary right now. Luckily I'm not officially an earthling (ie US citizen) . Regardless, everyone's affected. Why don't you tell us more about the history of LTDnetwork, and AK's involvement etc, leading up to blln and qtrax. This is fascinating stuff. If you have been here that long, then in some ways you are our' historian. You are very adamant about your' hard stance attitude, except for maybe right after the warner announcement, which cheered you up for a few days. Part of your' stance was that "we, I-hubers " get together, and initiate activities to better our' position as blln holders. I would definitely be up for that. Word on the streets is that they are supposedly pulling off a deal real soon. But who knows what that means right? We can't control the outcome The only thing we have control over is the past. We can analyze it. So why don't you do us a big favor, and tell us what you know. I really mean it. That way we may actually be up to date, and understand exactly what you are talking about. And maybe take action if need be. You seem to be up for the conversation. It may take a week, but I'd love to hear it. So would others. People have to understand we are not bashers, but disgruntled investors. I for one have very little cognizance of LTDnetwork, nor the implications. I know that makes me a naive idiot, so you won't have to remind me. But if you really want support on this board, then you better be up for the history lesson. At least it will give us something to ponder while we wait for "our'" launch. And it may strike a more interesting conversation between people who have history here. Hopefully we'll be tuning in tomorrow to "Sirroccos' Way" a special on Chewblog, that highlights the dirty under workings of LTD networks and more.
not sure if they had a chance to ask questions
but I think you are right(feel-good speech). The gist of the CC was circulated by email, and also posted here, if you care to find it. I found it quite forward thinking. One thing you may be wrong on, is how long Avdi and Lopaka have been around. They both claim over 6 years, Avdi was still buying back in the day at 2 bucks. How long have you been here?
my mistake
MrBigz video, not the Pigs (other board) . Thanks Grumman
I don't think Lopaka is a liar
that's one thing I feel strongly about. I could be wrong though. That's why it perplexes me some of the stuff he posts here. At a minimum, there 's a few people here that were on the conference call with AK. That's more than ourselves
good point
and my bad to omit the fact.
haha, nice one soldier
I saw some 100k lots go through at .17. Now that was serious profits, and a smart move for who ever pulled the trigger. Not saying it was a bad move on the buyers side, but damn. One thing is for sure, you can't trust level 2 and these comments about free sailing after .20. The sellers will pile in.
cool thanks
that's why I said strong hands. Considering the float has turned once or twice, I'm hoping that the .011's were sold for .03, which were then sold for .05 etc. The last run was a little fast, and markets have started to waver a bit. I don't think ,07 is out of the question, but I am by no means bashing. The pigs video said .09 was support, but less than 100 k shares took care of that supposed support. Any clue why my .091's didn't get filled, yet the .09's did? That was strange, maybe a blessing, maybe not.
cheers, like wise 8-K
I think strong hands need to prevail here. Let's hope we are strong. I've seen a lot of tape painting going on, and that last run was a little too fast. The people who bought above will have to hold on. But, even if we do drop, it will climb again. Saw it the first time when we went to .025 from what was it .005 or something? Couldn;t hold, dropped to .011, and churned for a week below .015. Moved a little faster to .025-.06, and even faster to .17. The only thing that worries me a bit is the pumpers here claiming it's going to the moon, but never saying that they are taking profit. I find it a bit deceptive, but hey that's the BB"S
all I know is Lopaka has been saying payday coming up real soon
for ever. He is consistently wrong, and has gone as far as trying to get us to get everyone we know to buy more stock on more than one occasion. He and avdi also claimed we would see a huge shock and awe program with the announcement of warner. We didn't see anything of the sort. He claimed that kent and ford were really gonna make a splash. Didn't happen. They also said Midem was gonna important for us. In the end, it was only important for who ever sold their stock at that time, not for the fools buying into it These guys get their' information through AK's liaisons, if not through AK himself. Something is extremely wrong with this picture. I like Lopaka and Avdi, even if they post while drunk all the time ( like a few of us do/have done), but they lost their' credibility a while back. They claimed if we banded together we could out do the shorts, but in private they were not willing to elaborate. That was fishy, if anything, unsolid. These guys cannot afford to lose faith, they have way to much vested. But that's their' problem, and it shouldn't cloud the reality of the situation. Prove me wrong with a pr that says there is a bidding war going on, or that microsoft just made an offer. The rest is heresy.
Sirrocco
I am assuming that the reason they can't secure financing is because they want to keep as much of the pie for themselves. What other reason can you come up with as to why nobody can finance this properly? They have the technical issue solved, with the backing of all the labels. What more do they need to prove the product? Yes we can all hypothesize about some major deals with india and china etc? But what kind of deals are you talking about?
what makes you think other wise?
Lopaka said they needed half a million for warner, and more for the launch. It's not that we are in a rush, but we are tired of being lead by a carrot, only to have it taken away at the last second. What makes you assume there aren't any problems? They are burning cash, with licensing deals to be renewed. Yes it would be great if they landed some major deal between now and the launch, but I'm more concerned about then finding the financing to launch period. You have no proof as to why they are delaying this, but we do have word that cash is an issue.
strange thing happened today at EOD
I had a bid at .091 to add to my position, started getting filled, and then the .09s started going through. Only a fifth of my order got filled at .091, and then the 09's got filled. Don't know why that happened. But I think they did me a favor, it didn't take much to take out all those .09 bids. There really wasn't that much support at .09, it just looked that way with a bunch of puny bids from different MM's. Hopefully that changes tomorrow. Either way, it's all good. I'm sure many here would benefit from a hefty price drop, though I know many have already gone all in, and won't appreciate it.
RE:TC - "scrambling" for cash?
I'm not sure if you are right about that one Mocho. They officially missed another launch. We know cash has been an issue. If they can't meet their' deadlines, then I'd say they are scrambling. We've been hearing over a year now about huge things in the works, some major deals behind the scenes. Maybe Ak owes it to a few people not to let this stock fall to .0001, and therefor keeps the rumor mill flowing. So far the longs have insisted we should keep buying, while the stock goes down down down. Not to mention it can be dangerous to say you are launching at a certain date, the stock goes up just before, people are getting in at a premium, and then nothing. Oh, except the stock loses 50% in short order. That is extremely disrespectful to the blln community, but hey, who cares about us? Also, where is the proof that it is so difficult to sign a deal with the labels. Can one of you claiming this prove it? Cash is the problem, contrary to what Go_Q stated here. If it wasn't we would have launched already. Why hasn't anyone stepped to the plate to see this launched? It doesn't help us any that AK is trying to keep as much of the pie for a select few.
pretty sad if you ask me
a million shares traded, can't hold .065. Seems like there's a bit of shorting going on, not to mention all that paper traded for promo. Like Obi said, they this screwed this one up coming out of the gates.
what does that mean?
"no ticky no laundry"
those meds are really working
good to hear it, and thanks for looking into this. I don't think the question is why now, the question is why? Why has Ak falsified information?
has anyone figured out
what this 15:77 Securities Fraud is?
where do you see that
I guess you guys are joking?
thanks Mocho, appreciate it
was sure my head was going to roll today
you guys actually listened to jackson?
I hope your' joking. Never ever listen to people on the BB's. Specially not one that claims he is not trading the stock, yet is calling you a fool for holding.
as for your' questions
the lawsuits came from previous investors. I do not know the exact nature, that's why I tried to get the longs to use their' connections to look into it. The terms of investing in QTrax directly. For one, they changed. There appears to have been a limit date as to the first terms . But the first terms were 25 k minimum purchase of Qtrax shares at a price of .50, which allowed you to purchase an equal amount at .25. But by the time I heard about it, the .25 offer was off the table. What I found unfair was that we were not told about this. You had to be in the know. I am not exactly sure what your 2.A question is. 2.B. I will not disclose any names, but yes they are still here
I was the frank guy
in my good cop role
thanks
I knew you would enjoy it. Good ol' blln. Brings the best out in everyone. I asked Shot what he had to say about it: " Well, I'm back on my meds, so it's all good"
harrysdog
I won't defend that dogcat punk, but I'm not sure calling him a pumper was really the right term. I only started posting on I-hub as of a few months a go, but I've been reading for a few years. Just like my buddy Vader (at least buddies on set). I noticed when dogcat first started posting, and he was calling out the pumpers. I think he called Go_Q a pumper. As Obi pointed out, they all thought Weck was onto something. Hey, .25-.50 sounds pretty appealing. Little did they know WECK does not really have the best rep. Bet those kids didn't know that at the time, I presume.
I agree
close to a billion shares outstanding, and non transparent. That's enough to keep people away. Problem with investors on this board is this is probably the first and only stock they ever bought. They only look at the product and not the share structure, thinking the product will make all the difference. I've been watching another stock go from .005 to .14 this past month. Why, because they give updates to investors, they are non transparent, and the OS is 15 million. Compare that to blln and you'll see why blln is a pig. (to quote OBI) And those lawsuits, I'm not surprised non of you care. Has nothing to do with them being settled or not, it's the nature of them. You know what one of the longs said to me regarding the lawsuits, "I don't have time to look at the past" . This is the same guy telling us to go and tell all our friends and families to buy blln, and that we'll be heros. Worrisome to say the least. How about Go_Q, notice how he only pops up when Qcrap takes over? Don;t you think that's weird? Don't you find it odd that crappie was telling us about warner and it being an issue, and Go-Q shows up and says he hadn't heard anything of the sort, and it's all lies. Next thing you know it, warner is an issue. Why would Go_Q deny it? If anyone knew, it would have been him. Notice how he disappeared all together, yet you guys make excuses as to why? How about that Avdi freak with his big short theories, or Lopaka and Lucky calling OBI a short, when he's not. I'de like to see one of you guys actually show me a significant short count on bllln. So basically, the longs with connections either to AK or through an in-between are either lying to us to help pad someone's pocket, or they are being fooled by AK himself. Lopaka has been consistently wrong on this stock, yet he has one of the best connections. Doesn't ad up. At least he's honest enough to tell us cash is an issue. But he's so long he can't see the forest from the trees. If he dumped all his shares we would be sitting at .0005. At the same time the longs are now buying qtrax shares. Why, because they want to make sure to be in on the good stock. Unfortunately they own so much blln at higher prices that blln is what they are stuck with. That's why they insist we are safe with our investment. They would not want to believe other wise. Go_Q said he we would be bought out long before revenues start. What does that mean? The site is supposed to be up and running with adverts already. Revenue should be starting as soon as the hard launch. I doubt we'll be bought out before.
My take on Go-Q is the same as Whatheheck, these guys don't dare show up. Whatheheck and his .50 by fall predictions. Lopaka the same, every post he had us mark discredits him as another retail pumper(how's that mdmn going?). And Avdi was incredibly gullible. He told me to buy a stock once at 1.20 saying I wouldn't regret it. I knew better, and in the next month it went from 1.20 to .05 then a rollback. Later he admitted he fell hook line and sinker for one huge pump and dump. Lucky B may be a digital music encyclopedia, but he doesn't know one thing about investing. His enthusiasm for qtrax is sound, but his knowledge of investing isn't. Mocho, the princess says she understands why you are upset. You are smart enough to see the forest from the trees, and something here just doesn't smell right. The nerve of Qtraxer saying if we don't launch in april, we'll then just push it back again. He spiced up that post by bringing up the SEC and insider trading. As if. Market would know if we were on the verge of something big, and right now the market is acting like what happens after Chewie eats some dates.
yesterdays low was .027
A little scary. I'm worried about the kind of retracing we may see
should I mark that post ?
chart looks ok. I'll be watching it, as I usually do, because it's on my list of sub penny crime stocks.
first post ever?
dare I say why now?
I think the idea of the service
is to be more user friendly than p2p, similar to I-tunes. I don't think it's about people feeling better about doing it legally. I could be wrong, and maybe there are people that are tech savvy, and have morals that will lead them to use Qtrax instead of p2p sites. I think it's the folks that use I-tunes that will be attracted to qtrax. It's not because they have morals that they pay for I-tunes, it's because they are not tech say, nor do they have the patience to be. You have to give the rich guy an easy to use platform. Humans are greedy by nature, that's how the rich stay rich. Give them an easy to use free alternative, and now you've got a market. The broke ass mofos are already tech savy, and I'm not sure you'll make a client out of them . Excluding Ddban of course .
I would start stripping the drm
from the songs you've downloaded with Qtrax right away just in case. By the way, did you lose any songs when SF went under?
he's a bit of a pumper come basher
he does it every time.