great stats ,they are all using it illegally except the US



I thought it was all about a legal alternative, those stats say people don;t care about the legal issues.

what happened to kent and fords shock and awe program Darth?


weren't you guys insisting that we would see that with warner? Who told you that would happen, and aren't you suspicious that it didn't? How about midem, and the fact we were supposed to see something, and you guys were telling us to buy buy buy? The problem with you Darth, is you don't take responsibility for what you say. You disappear when questions are asked at you directly. Why don't you start by answering the shock and awe question. What happened to it? It's not my cup that is half full, it's my pocket book. After all we have accomplished we are still sitting way below when we had nothing. Can you answer what is wrong with this stock?

somethings wrong

first of all germboy, it's not just people buying qtrax shares that are privy to information. The longs on this board have been privy to that information long before they were buying qtrax shares. As long as you had a large enough holding, and have been around for a while, then you were getting a feed. I used to think that feed was a good thing, but I finally realized AK is just keeping these longs from dumping all their' shares and having this stock tank to zero. Now that we have the labels I don;t think it's down to the process being so complicated as some here say. Maybe it was complicated to get the labels, and maybe there were a lot of tech issues that had to be ironed out so the site could handle the volume, but that's all done now (apparently) . Maybe qcrap had an agenda, and maybe you don;t like the way Obi posts, but they actually make quite a bit of sense. Ak is obviously having cash problems, otherwise we'd be up and running. Why is he having cash problems? You can't blame the economy because he's had plenty of time. Besides 40 million is peanuts if your' service is revolutionary, and going to be the next google of music. Of course we are going to hear that we are on the verge, and financing has been secured. But if that was the case, we wouldn't need an update. The update Darth outlined is a joke. And I feel sincerely sorry for Darth and Lopaka, because of how loyal they are. But I also assume if they held on for 7 years, they can't stop being loyal now. But since last year we've been getting the carrot dangled in front of us, and the only thing I will put up with now is execution. No more talk of how great this is going to be. If AK is telling the media one thing, and not following through, then he's getting all of us in trouble. Fact of the matter is, those blogs may have an agenda, but they are correct in most of what they say. It is us that have come to the defense because of our investment, but how much punishment can we take? You guys are gluttons. But as you can see, the gang here is getting tired of it. We've got harrysdog, germboy, sirrocco, brooklyn man, obi and myself all starting to get sick of the deception. That list will grow, and so will the negative sentiment. I already lost cash here, that's a fact. Will I make it back, that is unproven, and strictly a hypothesis. The nerve of them saying they will update the splash page. It's just incredible to hear AK think he can appease us with a new launch date. He must thing we are really stupid. Question is, are we?

In other words, nothing new


4-5 news releases to lay out the details of the launch ?(what do we need so many for) Number of countries? Portability capabilities? WTF? We already know all this. Did you read the last PR in early april? "The company anticipates launching at full capacity with portability to over ten countries internationally in the next month or so, followed by a phased global roll out." Who cares what the splash page says, they don't comply to it. We already know the game plan, we don't need to hear more abut it. Put it into action, and stop lying to the faithful AK.

it's probably because the MM

had everyone shoot their' load too early (weck was pumping this last week) You can't blame Ak for those I's and t's. I fear for Mocho who is expecting Ak to define the moment today. I know that lucky and Qurious don't mind if nothing happens, it will just reaffirm the fact that Ak's deals are so huge, the wait is more than worth it. Shock and awe was supposed to be the program according to pumper 1 and pumper 2. Unfortunately they omitted saying it was us that would be in shock and awe. Fool me once, shame on you ,fool me 30 times, we love abuse.

wrong again

I think qcrap may have had an agenda, I say that because he claims he was selling at .027-.-028, and trying to sell as much as possible. But when the price gets to that range he continues his banter, which would not help his cause. Obi on the other hand is a disgruntled investor who gets tired of having one of the biggest blln share holders insist on lying to him. There's only so much dangling of the carrot you can do before the horse bites back. And the dangling still continues by members of this board, telling us to expect something, and then nothing. I can expect some update to investors just to keep us interested, and wait until fall to see something huge. In march qtraxer wrote a blog "just a little more patience" In early april this came out in a PR "The company anticipates launching at full capacity with portability to over ten countries internationally in the next month or so, followed by a phased global roll out." That's why we thought we may see something in april. Then the site said launch in may, so we all anticipated something for may. Now june rolls around, and some of you guys are saying july. I don't know where you get this july deadline, but if AK is capable of continuously extending every deadline, then this july date is probably just hog wash coming down the pipeline. I have a right to be upset about having a carrot dangled in front of me for far too long. Worst of all is we will have to chew through millions of shares to get anywhere higher. Not to mention the longs are buying Qtrax shares to be on the safe side. If we were safe with blln as the vehicle, you wouldn't be buying Qtrax shares. Instead of being so concerned with what people say on this board, you should be concerned with what AK says he's going to do, and why it doesn't get done in a timely fashion. Bring the update on, I want to see how big this next carrot is going to be

sure thing hendu

and that's your' third post ever? I really like your' first one
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=38559973

missed the update deadline

i wouldn't be too happy about that taro reading. Mostly because it follows in a long history of more talk than walk. I don't care about qcrap, and if he was related to those blogs then good riddance. But you said months ago we were delayed due to technical issues. What happened to that story? Can you speak of it, or are you too lost in Ak's dream to be accountable for what you and they say? Don't give me no hog wash about about what side of the fence I'm on, or how I'm teetering on my conviction. I know mocho, and lucky are looking for pay day, and someone is still making you guys think it will come. So why are you buying Qtrax shares? Let us know without the spices, and maybe we'll believe you. Please no half full cup retorts

I'm with Harrysdog

we've go suitcases packed, waiting for the train to come. We've also booked a room on the train, and his hot wife is with us. In case any of you were getting any ideas, it's going to be better than that.

there goes the volume

I hope this wasn't another pump job. Come on AK, where's that update you promised the faithful who so adamantly come to your' defense.

good stuff


I hope the neighbor paid off the lumber for the job. Or maybe he knew he could default on the loans once the flood took over and killed everyone.

this week harry

no guarantees for monday. Darth said we were in for an update. I hope they haven't been feeding him carrots bits.

sorry

he said within the month back in early april at the preview launch. Why do you think people had their' hopes up for april? Then it got switched to may on the site. And now it's back to indefinite. At first the delays were technical, but now it's something else which they won't disclose. I don't care about qcrap. He doesn't effect my investment at all. If I don't see anything this week, I'll start to be worried about the intel for an umpteenth time.

keep going

can you tell us where or why you are saying this is one of Rossos' minions? Meaning can you back this up with facts? Not that it's so important to justify crappies presence here, because it doesn't actually bother me. As long as Qtrax keeps promising, and not delivering, there will be complaining.

something is supposed to happen this week

according to weck. If nothing happens, you will be more right than wrong

I heard 5 bucks a share


but the date of that 5 dollars was omitted. maybe it was a prediction for 2012

.028 printed

not sure how it slipped by the .027's.

hey Obi

that thirsty tiger was not referring to you. Seams like you misunderstood. There was a big political debate here today. Sirrocco was trashing the states big time, and had a few people in a tiffy

I heard about this too


but I don't really see why I need to know about some update, when I already know what they are supposed to be doing, but not doing. Unless they are going to start to define the terms of some spin off, and tell us where we stand as shareholders/bagholders, then I agree with Translation on the qtrax blog, this may be more fairy dust. And I think that translates as excuses for more delays. Darth calls us bashers, when in reality we are tired of hearing excuses every time. And the number of people that are tired of this is growing. This update doesn't mean anything i bet. Not in buissness terms. Show me a deal that says money. Don't tell me about how huge the potential is. Cause I have a feeling that's all we're in for, at least for now. I don;t want to hear about how we are making great inroads in china.
Like our mods name, show me the money AK.

I vote for Shot

Seems to have leveled out enough for vice mod position. Everybody else here is a little too queer for my comfort. Specially Harrysdog :)


As far as Obi's post, I heard that tout from WECK too. You guys don't want to hear his PPS predictions. I am just as wary as Obi about getting a tout from Weck anymore. I have some shares, and I'll trade this mofo if it starts to trade, but it's all been here say so far.

I heard similar stuff

let's see if Weck is on the money this time. Other words we'll come after him.

you sound like a beautiful couple


your' union will be blessed by god.

yes, a lot of cash


why, what are you thinking? Deception? From what I hear they have a piece of shit office, which doesn't give me much confidence. I think AK probably likes traveling around the world. Maybe he indulges in special treats while away from the family. But one thing is for sure, if this was supposed to be huge, the financing would be there, and we would be out of the gates. If no billionaires are stepping up to the plate, it means no one believes it will be such a huge cash cow. Either that, or AK's talent is in securing 25 k investments, one at a time. Good grief, that's barely enough for the special treats. I hear AK has high end tastes in food and woman. You guys don;t remember that article where AK was eating lobsters and telling everyone to keep the faith?

actually it's the pumpers that got tired out

and went back to the swamp. Hahahaha Lucky your' freakin' funny. haven;t you noticed the crowd of skeptics is starting to build, and the crowd of pumpers is starting to dissipate. It seams like people here like to deceive themselves, and in turn propagate the same. We'll see if qtrax is really the miracle our mesiah has been promising. I think our main problem here is that if Ak is willing to deceive people, including us, then it shows he may not give a hoot about us blln share holders (I know, sounds naive). That being the case, we can;t rule out the fact we may some how end up getting screwed. The fact that the longs here have started buying QTrax shares shows they themselves are not all too convinced blln is the safe place to be. And in fact it's ever since I was told about this, and given the opportunity to buy .50 cent qtrax shares at a 25 k minimum that I took on a different attitude. The deal for recent investors was 25 k minimum investment at .50 a share, plus the right to buy an equal amount at .25. By the time I heard about it, the .25 was off the table, making the deal less appetizing. I considered the offer, but hearing about Ak defrauding on payments and bouncing checks, and all these cash oriented delays makes me wary. The other thing that bothers me is that the longs here are stocked up pretty huge on blln, yet Ak lures them to spend more money on Qtrax shares. He is somehow convincing them to feel that they are better safe than sorry. Too me that's ridiculous. And maybe AK's right, QTrax is the place to be, but blln, should be good too apparently. But why take the chance is prolly AK's line. That's evil.

spoken like a true naive investor

the product is good lucky, we are all in agreement on that. So don't ruffle your' feathers too much big fella. In fact it sounds like you are the one being immature now that we just started getting a non insulting conversation going. I don't think you need to speak for inthemix. He sounds pretty intelligent, and can make up his own mind as to who he will engage.

MM dropped the offer to .023

earlier today when the next offer was .027. Qcrap, what do you think that is? Just trying to loosen up shares, or a desperate seller? I think PKpower said it best when referring to his friends' interaction with AK "Some of the info he fed has been less than truthful. Thank you PK power, good to hear some real facts. Also good to hear your' kids are using qtrax. What kind of feedback have they given? Anything to improve on?

what do you mean TC?

shut up phineas


I will sell to break even or gain, not to loose. It's not up to you to make me lose cash and disappear

hey Lucky

what's your big excuse as to why Ak has been bouncing checks on people? Did they also have a service in competition to qtrax? It doesn't matter who wrote the article, it's what was said, and what really happened. Ak has been screwing people over, and you know what Lucky will say about it: it's the only way to see this model through to fruition (ie screw people on the way). Come up with something better dude. Digital music may be in in it's infancy, but bouncing checks is an age old game. Can you really justify illegal practice with some digital music history rhetoric? I am under 10 k on this deal, and I want my money back. Tell weck to buy everything available until .09, and maybe some of us will break even. Freakin' manipulator won;t dare show his face around here anymore. How about go-g Qurious? You got a good one for us? Let me guess, he doesn't want to read through all the crap? All go-Q has to say is KTF. But he can't and he won't. Qcrap is right, better get used to it until this CO shows a snivle of respect.

weck was buying today


looks like the MM's are propping this up. Not sure if they are trying to fill their' clients or just propping it up to dump higher. Level 2 shows some support, but I think these MM fuckers will unload here for the next few days at this level, and then sink the ship for a reload. What do you say Darth? You claimed delays were due to technical issues. (you lied to the faithful, and that is very uncool)
Are you still singing the same tune? Lopaka and a few other are saying middle of june for some real action. HAHAHAHAHAH. You freakin' wolf criers are out of trend. Stop feeding us AK's bullshit. I give you until mid june to prove your' point. After that, we are taking action. Tell AK we are going after him, to what ever capacity we can. Sirrocco, are you in, or are you going to be an arrogant prick?

do your' kids use qtrax?

it's up and running. Or do they just love the idea?

re: People are getting paid for the work they are doing.


how do you know? Kool aid is right, and enough's enough. You guys should stop making excuses, and throwing bs at this board. Did Qcrap or Obi ever tell you to buy or sell? No. Did avdi tell you to go on every board and pump. Yes. Did he tell you you would be a hero by getting your' friends and family to buy? yes. Did go-q ever encourage you to buy but not sell? Yes. Now ask yourself, who really is on the dark side? Obi has more experience than everyone on this board combined. That's why he doesn't give a hoot about his delivery. If you are too dumb to read between the lines, that's your' problem. All you guys talking about how honest AK is, even though he is lying to us every month. Wheres' the money, where's the launch? Everything else is BS. Some huge deal in the works? Gimme a break. Show me a launch, and then I'll know someone cares about this deal. And as far as thirstys' Obi comment this morning. All I can say is thirsty has never shown anything on this board but self interest. Don't expect that to change over night. I-hub is a place for shady companies to get pumped. It's littered with garbage CO's that do illegal things. Everyday I see a new pump and dump, and the retail guys lose all the time.

I think even the longs are hiding something


either that, or AK really has them wrapped around his finger. The reason I say that is because the longs have expressed concern to me in the past by email when someone here threatened with taking action. Why would the longs care if someone took action if everything was on the level.? I remeber Go-Q was always insinuating that he was buying up the cheapies ( at 4 cents). Munch munch, yum yum, was the expression he used. That was a year ago, and these clowns would insist that we should be buying, and holding, because you didn't want to get caught on the sideline when this thing took off to the moon. Sounds like they had an agenda.

good post

I'll put the link here again incase your post gets deleted.
http://www.waynerosso.com/2009/05/28/update-qtrax-correction-sort-of/

by the way Qcrap

dogcat's antics by high jacking peoples names off this board to use on a blog was obviously done in humor. He knew he would get caught. If he was out to protect the integrity of qtrax he would have never done that. In case you don't remember, go-q threatened to leave this board if dogcat didn't leave himself.

they are working for AK with their' own gains to protect.

They are smart enough to have you believe everything they want you to believe. And none of you want to look at all the possibilities. Just like the war on terrorism ( read US oil greed). None of you will ever want to believe that the twin towers fell demolition style, because it would be ludicrous. Same goes for this deal. For all you righteous smarty pants, answer this question. Why is the cash cow still in the barn, and not outside growing fat off the land?

If this is a cash cow with the potential of google


what is holding back the buissness community from putting this into high gear? Is AK being selective because he wants to keep as much profit in his own pockets? (sounds greedy) Is that how we are supposed to read this? And as far as them hiding their' deals with the labels and the unique features of qtrax, that's a purely highly speculative excuse made up by this board. Besides, just because a company is reporting doesn't mean they need to disclose features of their' platform. I think the 2 are completely unrelated. Now that qtrax is up and running, anyone with cash can steal the idea. I think the model is unproven, and nobody wants to take the risk. Specially when other models are falling by the way side.

lucky can you address the point

they are making instead of making excuses. You seem to think the world of buissness is a world of honesty. Markets are manipulated by agencies and sometimes governments. Criminal activities in the markets happen all the time. And most of it goes by unnoticed or penalized. If AK is not willing to be transparent, then he obviously has something to hide. Why do you think serious investors look for reporting companies on the nasdaq etc. Most people I know won't touch pinkies with a ten foot pole.

the proof will be in the pudding

and as long as they put the launch off, we'll never know. Robin Kent has already been in one free music service that went belly up. I think the point Obi and Qcrap are trying to make is there are cash issues at stake. You may not like the way they deliver their' message, but you can't dismiss them just on that basis. Which is what some of you are trying to do. But regardless, the message is clear. AK is having trouble finding the proper financing to launch this product. Besides the obvious issue of an economic down turn, can any of you address the fact that if this service was that revolutionary, and a supposed cash cow, why hasn't the buissness community jumped on this golden opportunity for the next google of music? Why the delay? What is wrong with this company that nobody wants to outright finance this and make themselves a mint? Doesn't it sound like there is something wrong with this picture? I know a lot of you want to at a minimum get back the money you are under on, so it's obvious why you come to the defense. You don;t dare look at all sides of the coin. Which is silly. Lucky, I've always respected you, but you are starting to get irrational. When you tell us we should sell and move on, you are not realizing that we are under on our investment, and selling now is not an option. So you should rethink that mind set, because we can't sell now. I'm glad Lopaka is still very positive on the outlook of qtrax, hopefully this thing comes to fruition for everybody sake. But one question I have for Lopaka, and everybody else here that has kids. Are your' children using Qtrax right now? This is not a jab, just an honest question.

great post Obi , you nailed it

and pretty much shut everyone up. Aaacdude, great posts as well. I'm surprised people were still buying this up until the close at .026. Maybe Darth told a few more friends to buy buy buy (or is it say "bye bye bye" to your hard earned money). Geesh, people never learn. And absolutely zero words from the faithful who have been slapped in the face once again.