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i just have trouble understanding where you are coming from because you dont provide any of your logic or reasoning....not trying to hate on you...just being honest
IW, thank you for the report. it all makes perfect sense and sounds like they are serious about being successful in the long run.
btw, i doubt that anyone on this board but you and me know where Dimebox, TX is....I passed through there many of times driving from college station to austin....and vise versa.
i see you are the newest member of the spooz forum. do you plan on testing spoozchartz?
go ahead an elaborate on your prediction because you gave me the impression that you have no idea what you are talking about. seriously, why do you think that we will experience something similar to what happened after the exp in october?...please explain your logic.
ebi, i thought about joining but not sure it will do much good as i dont think it is intended for spooz investors...i am guessing that forum will be a place for people using the software to bounce ideas off one another. however, it might be interesting to start asking some general questions there...like when the software will be available, who is currently using the stv2, is it on track for some sort of launch this month, etc...maybe the admin there will drop some hints??
ebi, that is pretty cool in my book. i had checked out the website last week and 'forum' was to be coming soon....i definitely think they are making some updates to the website.
martingale, are you still planning on posting your DD find on the 141 board?....I was interested to see what you uncovered.
todays volume was almost 9MM. does anyone know the percentage of buy to sell? with the large spread, what are people able to sell spzi for right now.... 0.005 and less?
same here....a broker ID is still required
baaden, EXCELLENT find!!!!!
I would like all the doubters to seriously ponder why IB would have this listed on their website if this company was a perpetual fraud/scam. Hopefully they launch on Jan. 15th, but just the fact that STv2 has been posted on this site should let you know that they really have a product....very interesting indeed!
BTW....is the address listed on that link their correct address....
Spooz, Inc., 141 W Jackson Bvd CBOT BLD, Suite 1220, 3123793166
I thought they were off of La Salle St or something like that???
whoa, whoa, whoa, gbathat, easy on the DD over there. i thought i was going to make it an entire day without actually learning anything from this board.
from that thread and a few others on that site, you can get a brief glimpse into a community of people that might be potential customers of spooz. the autospreader tool and template leasing idea both seemed to catch a little interest.
thanks for the digging.
I got that from it too. There is quite a bit of discussion on the importance of access to full depth market data and also, "backtesting". Connectivity to market data, both past and current, sounds like a must have. Listening to this you can surely see why Spooz has got to get the launch absolutely right with respect to connectivity or they are fried. It gave me a better appreciation of why delays might not be so bad if it allows you to fine tune your product so that you release something that is "best in class" or close to it.
Ps. I only made it to the 40 minute mark of the discussion last night. Let me know if there is anything noteworthy after that.
Did you see this post by no_shorts on the spzi board tonight? You can listen to John Unwins panel discussion at the recent FIA expo
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=25258940
thanks no_shorts...listening to it now...it is very, very interesting....a few things have struck my while listening to the first half of this discussion 1) There are many different approaches to solving advanced algorithmic trading challenges. 2) There are obviously many smart people out there developing advanced trading tools 3) These people must be there b/c there is a market for these solutions 4) John Unwin knows what he is talking about and knows how to get his points across clearly 5) A lot of this is flying straight over my head....
This is definitely worth a listen if you have money invested in Spooz or are thinking of investing in it...imo
Change, I'm assuming you dont think 141 is real or has any potential to generate value for Spooz. The company has been doing more than just selling shares...imo...
do you also believe that the employees that work for Spooz are all part of a master scam plan and that the expo's spooz recently participated in were not real...?
Trader, I'm sure you dont care, but i think these comments are ridiculous...."The price action does indicate no launch in january. Actually everyday which passes by and which is with this low volume and with no price appriciation, the chance is going up for a failed launch."
Is your entire argument here that volume should be much higher if everything was on track b/c people with inside information would be gobbling up shares in 10s of millions? I know it often happens, especially in pinkieland, but not every time. C'mon, there is no reason to conclude that launch is not on track b/c volume is not high. People that aren't insiders, aka the trading public, are skeptical! I think the truth is that managment has "cried wolf" multiple times and a lot of people simply aren't convinced that launch and 141 are really on track. That is why volume is relatively low in my opinion.
It doesn't mean anything about whether or not launch is really on track. It means people aren't convinced that it is on track. They are waiting for proof. Those who want to gamble are getting in now. I am happy to be in now b/c I believe that good things are coming.
agreed, with anticipation on two fronts, 141 and STv2, i would not be surprised to see some people come in off the sidelines early to ensure a seat at the table.....lets hope there is plenty to eat come late January.
Is anyone familiar with some of the software packages that will be direct competitors to STv2? I am wondering if people that subscribe to these packages are usually locked into some sort of contract.....or if they can typically cancel at any time without penalty. The latter scenario would obviously be better for us.
Traderfan, this stock is certainly under the radar to most of the general trading public. Spooz hasn't released a product yet and has had some delays. The 141 situation is not completely clear yet. I think that this has pushed a lot of people who do know about it to the sidelines, waiting to see if the ship really leaves the dock.
While you are disappointed that we are not trading 100million shares a day, keep in mind that we rose earlier this year on just 20-40million shares a day. If things come together in 1Q 2008, I think we will at least see that type of volume again...if not much higher.
Have a good weekend.
allie, that is amazing. i have always enjoyed fedfunz's posts and feedback. from just those posts i think he will be a great asset to spooz. he will be missed here.
do you think he can answer to what he will be doing for spooz? i have been wondering if they have hired anybody....i am most interested as to whether they are hiring anyone for customer support which would indicate preparation for product release.
Song, i found this interesting about Mr. Unwin's resume...see bold text below. That is exactly what we need him to do for us, except lets change ~2MM pounds to about 50MM.....
....and then click on the link and go to the website for a description of the product. Note who's website it is....MF Global, formerly Man Financial...whom Spooz has some ties to...
He appears to be a very good fit for Spooz...in my opinion!
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2000 — 2003 (3 years)
• Alongside board responsibilities, my role was to: increase revenue by technical sales and product innovation, control costs, budgeting, manage risk, motivate the team and maintain high standards of service delivery.
• Managed a team of 45 and increased Easyscreen’s revenue (60%) reduced costs (35%) by focusing the company onto higher revenue activities, cutting out activities with a poor return,
• Delivered a new trading platform that has enabled Easyscreen to sell (£2m) solutions to large institutions and allows people trade over the Internet from our data centre. See http://www.refco.com/ps/ps.refcopro.asp
• Set up a datacentre to enable Easyscreen customers to trade over the internet and to host exchange connectivity for large institutional clients( see http://www.easyscreen.com/)
was trying to do some dd on john unwin and came accross this...
http://www.fixprotocol.org/discuss/7/11-20
nothing big...it looks like a forum that he used to be a part of about a year and a half ago to help answer technical questions around FixProtocol.
reading some of his posts gave me a pretty good feeling about having him on board. he seems to be a pretty intellegent fella wrt his field.
now why would he accept a job with spooz if it were a dead end company that was never going to release a product or have the potential to make some serious money?
i'm sure he just wanted to be part of a really elaborate scam...lol
traderfan, just a few days ago we had some people posting that they were trying to sell shares to free up some cash...maybe not for holidays or tax purposes but to invest elsewhere...so i think point # 3 is in play...there are people out there selling shares at these levels for various reasons
here are two examples......
pedros post # 38670
Interesting day. I had the following block sales up today.
500,000 @ $.0039
500,000 @ $.0040
500,000 @ $.0041
500,000 @ $.0042
Not a single share taken. Wasn't asking for a premium yet I couldn't move 1 share. Yesterday I got some action out of the 3:00 lurkers. Need cash for another play which should start moving pretty soon. Still would have over 6 mil shares in SPZI.
Need money for a new pinkie on the market. 1st system sale of $45 million last week and more to come in the very near future. More major news and movement later this week. Due your own DD. May be worth the look. Watch the ticker on STCO.
Oh well maybe tomorrow.
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The Real Smack, post # 38690
I just put up 63000 shares for .0040 . I need the cash. Anyone?
Here is a peaceful board...lol
http://www.agoracom.com/ir/Spooz
great call. i'm sure you'll make the same prediction tomorrow.
"We will be in the 0.002's today so dont worry." -Binks-
annie, if we have an "affiliate agreemement" with Ineractive Brokers, it means that they will be offerring STv2 on their website and if someone signs up for STv2 through their website, they will recieve a referral fee. I believe a "marketing agreement" would just be an agreement to advertise STv2 on someone's site....
The 'affiliate terms and conditions' below is straight from the Spooztoolz websight in case you want more info on it....
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Affiliate Agreement
This Agreement contains the complete terms and conditions that apply to an Individual's, Third Party Developer’s, or Value Added Reseller’s participation in the SpoozToolz.com Affiliate Program, hereinafter referred to as "Program" and the establishment of links from your Affiliate web site to the SpoozToolz.com Product Catalog at the URL http://www.spooztoolz.com. This Agreement is between you and Spooz, Inc., a Nevada corporation.
Please print a copy of this agreement for your records.
1. Enrollment in the Program
To begin the enrollment process, you must submit a complete Affiliate application via our web site. Your application will be evaluated, in good faith, and we will notify you of your acceptance or rejection in a timely manner. Your application may be rejected if we determine (at our sole discretion) that your site is unsuitable as one of our Affiliates, for any reason, but not limited to the inclusion of content on your web site that is unlawful, harmful, threatening, defamatory, obscene, harassing, or racially, ethnically, or otherwise objectionable.
If we reject your application, you are welcome to reapply to as an Affiliate at any time.
If we accept your application and your site is, at a later date, determined (at our sole discretion) to be unsuitable as a SpoozToolz Affiliate, we may terminate this Agreement.
The information you have provided to us in this Agreement is continuing; is true and correct and is not misleading as of the date of this Agreement and throughout the term of this Agreement and will survive its termination.
2. Promotion of our Relationship
Once you have been notified that your site has been accepted as a SpoozToolz Affiliate, you may provide on your site, one or more links to our SpoozToolz Catalog page at http://www.SpoozToolz.com. We will provide you with guidelines and graphical artwork to use in linking to our Home Page.
To permit accurate tracking, reporting, and referral fee accrual, we will also provide you with a special linking format to be used in all links between your site and our site. You must ensure that each of the links between your site and our site properly utilizes this special linking format. Links to our site placed on your site pursuant to this Agreement and which properly utilize the special linking format, are referred to as "special links." You will only earn referral fees with respect to activity on our site occurring directly through these special links; we will not be liable to you with respect to any failure by you to use special links, including to the extent that such failure may result in any reduction of amounts that would otherwise be paid to you pursuant to this Agreement.
3. Order Processing
We will process product orders placed by customers who follow special links from your site to our site. We reserve the right to reject orders that do not comply with any requirements that we periodically may establish. We will be responsible for all aspects of order processing and fulfillment. Among other things, we will prepare order forms; process credit card payments, cancellations, and provide customer service. We will track sales made to customers who purchase products using special links from your site to our site and will make available to you reports summarizing this sales activity online.
4. Referral Fees
We will pay you referral fees on product sales to third parties. For a product sale to be eligible to earn a referral fee, the customer must follow a special link from your site to our site, select and purchase a product(s) using our automated ordering system, accept delivery of the product via internet download, and remit full payment to us. We will not, however, pay referral fees on any products that are ad ded to a customer's Shopping Cart after the customer has reentered our site (other than through a special link), even if the customer previously followed a link from your site to our site. The Affiliate Program is intended for commercial use only, and you may not purchase products through the Program for your own use. Such purchases may result (at our sole discretion) in the withholding of referral fees or the termination of this Agreement. Products that are eligible to earn referral fees under the rules set forth above are referred to as "qualifying products."
5. Referral Fee Schedule
You will earn referral fees based on qualifying revenues according to referral fee schedules to be established by us. "Qualifying revenues" are revenues derived by us from our net sales of qualifying products, excluding costs for shipping, handling, taxes, service charges, credit card processing fees, and bad debt. The current referral fee schedule is: 10% of qualifying revenues from the sale of product that is listed in our SpoozToolz catalog and that is added to the customer's Shopping Cart.. On products that are leased and have recurring monthly payments, the qualifying revenues will be limited to 10 months per product.
6. Referral Fee Payment
We will pay you referral fees on a monthly basis. Approximately 10 days following the end of each calendar month, we will send you a check for the referral fees earned on our sales of qualifying products that were delivered during that month, less any taxes that we are required by law to withhold. However, if the referral fees payable to you for any calendar month are less than $5.00, we will hold those referral fees until the total amount due is at least $5.00 or (if earlier) until this Agreement is terminated. If a product that generated a referral fee is cancelled by the customer, we will deduct the corresponding referral fee from your next monthly payment. If there is no subsequent payment, we will send you a bill for the referral fee.
7. Report of Sales
You will be given a password and have the ability to enter a password-protected affiliate account website to receive your sales statistics on a daily basis.
8. Policies and Pricing
Customers who buy products through this Affiliate Program will be deemed to be our customers. Accordingly, all our rules, policies, and operating procedures concerning customer orders, customer service, and product sales will apply to those customers. We may change our policies and operating procedures at any time. We will use every reasonable effort to present accurate information, but we cannot guarantee the availability or price of any particular product.
9. Identifying Yourself as an Affiliate
We will make available to you a small graphic image that identifies your site as a SpoozToolz Affiliate Program participant. You must display this logo somewhere on your site, with the words, "SpoozToolz Affiliate" below it, and use the special link format to link to the SpoozToolz Product Catalog. We may modify the text or graphic image of this notice from time to time. You may not create, publish, distribute or permit any written material that makes reference to us without our prior written consent, which may be given or withheld at our sole discretion.
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We grant you a nonexclusive, revocable right to use the graphic image and text described in Section 9 and such other images for which we grant express permission, solely for the purpose of identifying your site as an Affiliate Program participant and to assist in generating product sales. You may not modify the graphic image or text, or any other of our images, in any way. We reserve all of our rights in the graphic image and text, any other images, our trade names and trademarks, and all other intellectual property rights. We may revoke your license at any time by giving you written notice.
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STv2 FAQs from website...pretty basic stuff but worth a read if you haven't already...just click on the down arrows for answers...
http://www.spooztoolz.com/faqs.aspx
MF, i am interested to see if your question about AFs gets answered by Paul. how nice would it be for AFs to come out around the same time that actual revenue generation from STv2 begins?
Catastros, can you elaborate on the post that i am replying to? were you at the last conference that spooz was at? if so, why were you there and what are your impressions of Paul and the team? if not, where did you here here of this Garber character?
allie, i agree 100%. allowing someone to translate and spin a conversation they had with someone leaves room for error in translation and exaggeration.....even if their intentions aren't bad.
the email Q&A is how we should communicate with the company. i believe it is a better path towards the truth.
is it just me or does martingale have multiple personalities as his posting attitue seems to change week to week....in any case, I am sorry martingale, but I am not ready to believe your claims that we will learn something earth-shattering tomorrow...i'm not sure why paul would tell you if a PR was coming out tomorrow anyway...nothing against you but i will remain skeptical on this claim.
well we have finally reached my average again, it was a fun ride up and, not as fun, back down..lol...i'd be buying more, but i have no available funds and i have enough invested in pennystocks already....this price doesn't bother me since my plan has always been to hold until late 08 or longer...and i believe in spooz despite the low sp and despite the delays...our day will come, either wait for it or move on.
sounds like a good short question for the next round of questions to paul?
mike, if they were involved in spooz, would you see it as a good thing or bad thing?...or would it be impossible to tell without knowing the details?
after a jog, which is always a good mind-cleanser, i must say that my estimate for # of spzi shareholders who read online forums is probably quite low.
martingale, i dont know how those 'view' stats work...i think you are correct in that more than just 300 ppl view this board.
there are probably tons of people who never post and just read or use shortcuts and thus dont boardmark or whatever...with news being so scarce and so much volatility in pennystocks...most pennystock investors, no matter what the stock, probably keep up with some forum or another.
not that any of this really matters...other than i was wondering what percentage of shareholders paul's emails were reaching...i'd say it is much higher than 20%...who knows?
boardmarks are up to 334...we've got some people in the bleechers but not all are fans.
lets make an 'assumption' and say that 300 of the 334 are shareholders, which is about 90%
the 3Q report estimated there were about 2200 shareholders if I remember correctly....so...based on my above assumption, about 14% (300/2200)of spzi shareholders read this board...doesn't really mean much but i thought it was interesting.
Knowing that RB and some other sites have spzi forums with people that post there and do not post here, i'd venture to say at least 20% of shareholders actively read online forums. This seems a bit low for a pennystock...any other guesses?? I guess there are some shareholders that hold restricted shares or are original investors and have no need to read online forums...but that can't be too many.
peeved, SWARMs 95% success ratio or recent "testing" was unaudited, done in-house, and was not done long enough to gain bulletproof credibility...once it gains such credibility, i imagine SWARM will be worth much more than $1.5 million...possibly even the $10-15MM that you mentioned....people here have made a lot of noise about being disappointed that SWARM was only sold for $1.5 million, but just like the share price argument going on right now, SWARM was worth that much when it was sold b/c that is what the market was willing to pay for it....i'm sure they would have sold it for more if they could have.
i was excited that SWARM got $1.5 million.
i recall paul saying that 120 million would be a significant percentage, or something like that, of the total o/s but i dont recall reading anything that eluded to the ~40%....i'm not saying it didn't happen...i must have simply missed it....
i will be quite happy with 40%...i guess we'll get confirmation on that when the 141 disclosure with share structure is released.
i never said anything about 141 being worth 300 million
Assuming 141 (xxis) will have approx 300MM o/s is a dangerous assumption. i do not think it is justified. i think this line of thought started with the assumption that spooz will own roughly 40% of 141 shares (120/300 = 0.4). this is completely unfounded. i am actually expecting that spooz will own more like 20% and this is just a WAG. i just dont think the investors who are throwing down $1.5MM for the SWARM license and $3MM in trading capital for 141 to start with were willing to give up 40% of the company...not for a trading machine that really doesn't have a track record (based on the results we've seen, it isn't an extensive track record anyway)...
I think it will be somewhere between 15-49%. I think some discussion on this topic will help paint some clear expectations and prevent some unnecessary disappointment when the share structure is released and spooz doesn't own exactly 40%.
IW, loved the data in that post. It never gets old to me.
And....I for one, will always welcome you posting information on single buys of over $5K in value....or large sales for that matter. Alone, they mean little but if they are repetitive or follow some particular trend there could be value in tracking them.
I got you trader!...and agree with your logic on the issue.