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Point taken. You are going to make me buy more.
glta
Mj
It's a shame. I bet if they just came clean from the get go they would probably be in a lot better position today. It's like the have Jack Kervorkian running the show.
Mj
sorry for the double post Diamondjim, what is your opinion of the latest move up? Speculation or meat?
thanks,
Mj
Diamondjim, what is your opinion of the latest move up? Speculation or meat?
thanks,
Mj
Try to look at the bright side of things.
MJ
Okay, then why use Romanchuk's name and why give TSNIGRI's address and E-mail info? They even have the damm mole! Did they expect no one would bother to confirm?
Lately, nothing about AURC corresponds to reality.
Mj
Okay, then why in the sam hill would they post contact information for tsnigri as well as the dude's name. Do they think that Americans are that lazy? It still doesn't make a lick of sense..
or as they say in Russian "Дово"
Mj
Nice find Preston. It makes me more sceptical of Scorzelli stating that Kidde won't help them settle with Tiax. Let's see what happens but if he puts the cost of settlement on us through a special share offering or whatever..I think that stinks.
Mj
It may be dated info but it is certainly still relevent in connecting All-clear with the US army. Now, if someone had the inside track on when this litigation with TIAX was going to wrap up then that would be some valuable info.
Mj
p.s. I tried to follow up with Rich S. several times last week and he is just not responding to me. He knows I kept all of our past correspondence and he probably doesn't want me to follow up on everything he said would happen but didn't.
JJ,
We have seen this link before. It almost coincides with EPA approval of All-clear and the subsequent law suit from Tiax (which I believe that there is a hearing for this week 2/14/2008 at Middlesex court. docket# 07-589)
I remember following up with Genencor...(see the below e-mail)
Mike,
Thank you for your inquiry. DEFENZ is the decontamination enzyme product inside the All-Clear product. As far as I know, Kidde Fire has not progressed with this product. However, DEFENZ will work without a foam formulation depending upon your end use.
May I answer any other questions you may have?
Best regards,
Cindy G. Boston
Federal & Govt. Programs
Genencor International
200 Meridian Centre
Rochester, NY 14618
M: (443) 858-3560
F: (585) 256-5286
It seems the Army has its own formaulation of a dry Decon product using defenz but All-clear appears to superior in its practicality.
When we get news on the outcome of this law suit I will try to follow up with Cindy. Hopefully it's soon.
Mj
OK, it's just the mother of all coincidences.
Mj
So is there just one magic 43-101 floating around Russia for everyone to claim as there own?
Mj
Less than 1 penny from being sub penny. This really sticks in my craw!
MJ
Ok, it's offical. I have a headache.
Tone loc was right. It's just a big ole mess.
Mj
Preston, Tech and JJ were before my time here on IH. If you guys have some solid info, contacts, or even a opinion, I'd would love to hear them. I would like nothing more than to see this company stage the greatest come back since Lazarus but I understand it's been over 2000 years since that one so I won't exactly hold my breath.
Glta
MJ
Didn't Aurus's Regdx indicate that the sale of stock was to pay for the 43-101? Unless, of course, we are footing the bill for someone else's benefit. Everything is so murky that nothing would surpise me here.
Mj
No, not just here. Nite is the biggest MM. They are everwhere and they always seem to be predictive of which way a stock is going.
MJ
Well, we got our last minute paint job to .008. I think that there is a pattern developing here. A move up followed by dead air. Maybe it's quiet accumulation. Let's think positive.
Mj
Preston, it has been my experience that NITe shows up when a stock is about to show some volume and they are never on the wrong side.
MJ
If anyone remotely connected with the company says it's hype, then its probably the real thing. This thing would be back @ .004 today if there was nothing there imo.
Let's see
Mj
Also, Nite on the ask is interesting. They are the biggest, greediest crooks out there ..IMO
You're right Q. The whole thing just stinks of sandbagging. They have a great product with a big market and they want to tell us can't get financing? They want to put their screw ups on shareholders by dilluting to clean-up the legal mess they made. What balls on these guys!
Mj
J, I think that there are SEC rules governing cash infusions from private parties. Technically, it's a public company and Robinson is the majority shareholder. I think he would have to buy up $100K in shares in order to get cash in the hands of the company. In doing so the share price would rise rapidly and with flippers and shorts it's probably cost prohibitive. Some one else may be able to verify this opinion.
Mj
Nice work Preston. I'm still sceptical of anything Scorzelli says but let's put that aside for now. I appreciate your efforts. Doesn't it seem strange that Kidde would invest so much time and effort in R&D, formulation and marketing of All-Clear to not want go the last 9 yards and help it's weak sister,Usga, wrap up this lawsuit and get to the point where they can recoup their investment? I know that it's difficult to judge the relationship between Usga and Kidde. I have a feeling that it's strained at best, but business is business.
any thoughts?
MJ
I think by going private they will want to focus more on their core business and there will be a greater sense of urgency in locking up the All-Clear licensing rights. Under the UTC unbrella I don't think there was that urgency. IMO
Mj
FYI: UTC contact
Bryan E. Rambo
Business Development Manager
Kidde Fire Fighting
National Foam Division
Phone 610 594 4092
Fax 610 524 9239
Email bryan.rambo@kidde-fire.
They bought Kidde two years ago and wrapped it into UTC under Fire-and saftey.
http://www.kiddeft.com/utcfs/Templates/Pages/Template-66/0,8070,pageId%3D1168&siteId%3D385,00.html
But now taking it private is very interesting.
Mj
Q, I just checked with the court. No decision yet. Nice find on the kidde/utc info. Very interesting. FYI: The all-clear.com site has been under construction since just before they received EPA approval. I have it on my favorites and check it from time to time
Mj
Q, I agree. It seemed like whoever was initiating the buying was trying to coax sellers at the double off .0035. Let's see what happens tommorrow. It could go dead again or we could be off to the races. I would love to finally see some news
We also have to keep in mind that although the move coincides with the Tiax trial, the news could be unrelated. It could be nano-filters or even DOD related.
glta
MJ
Q and J. No update at the court yet but this price action smells like a settlement. I tried to buy a little @ .005 and they partial filled me 5000 shares and kicked the ask up to .0065. Not much supply I suppose.
Mj
Yes, I just saw that too. I'll see what I can find out.
Mj
I checked with the court this morning. Still no decision from the judge. I assume the case is complicated based on my conversation last year with PS. He said that the judge had to remind both sides that he was not a chemist. Also, when both sides waived the jury trial the judge instucted them that they had only that one session on 1/28 to make their case, even if all the evidence was not available at that time. I guess they agreed.
fyi
Mj
Maria, It's not in his interest to stop it, rather to perpetuate it, imo. It makes for good copy in mineweb.
Mj
Again....grasping. eom
Mj
Well, she's either with us or against us.
MJ
That's boiler plate. You are grasping IMO.
MJ
Good luck DOS. You deserve it.
Mj
I disagree DOS. When a company's credibility is on the line, I can't imagine there would be no sense of urgency. You could argue that AURC does not see it that way but at a minimum, Slava is aware of this sentiment. There is more to these delays,imo. I just have no idea what they could be.
Mj
Good luck Cabroncita. Maybe Aurus can bring out it's rally mole on Super Tuesday! :)
Mj
Yes, Maria. It is particularly perplexing. Why would a company consistantly PR deadlines that it can't or doesn't plan to meet? Are they bumbling fools or evil geniuses?
MJ