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wick, are you in never never land? jf is totally incompetent to run a business like netflix and no one really knows how much money he has siphoned out of the company. Why are you trying to paint a reasonable picture of this guy. You are way too friendly with this character - it brings some question as to what you are doing here and what is your relationship with jf.
UTD Fan, you're honesty and realistic outlook is refreshing on these boards. it took me awhile to get it too and these stocks can be addictive because you always think the next one and I will make it big. a gzfx happens all the time, just the names are different. The basic rules of real investing do make a lot of sense. Most investors who follow these rules would never touch a stock like gzfx and if they did would only put in a small fraction of their portfolio - like about .01%. only a few that I know of can trade these things and that is the only thing they are good for if even that. we need some honest talk on these boards and a warning to newbies about these stocks.
wick, entertaining? I don't understand that. So many have lost so much in this stock - that is the last thing I would call him.
wick, your relationship with jf seems a bit strange to me. how can you keep conversing with someone like that and why would you spend so much time on this board? this is one of the worst stocks for trading ever? it just doesn't add up.
at least some people made some money today buying this thing when it dipped, I hope there were some shareholders in that group that got back some of their money.
maybe jf got too greedy and messed up but with the rules of the otcbb and nevada incorporation laws it's very difficult to bring him to justice. the plan from the beginning was all a well thought out scam where the bus couldn't lose no matter what happened. he used your money to hire the accountants and lawyers to protect his arse. this incorporation in nevada should be done away with, it just legalizes theft. the otcbb and pink sheets should also be cleaned up or abolished. jf was particularly good at giving the impression he knew what he was doing in business and this is what allowed him to suck in so much money from naive investors. he is incompetent to run a business like this and he really doesn't care what happens as long as he is playing ceo and feeding his ego and having fun burning through shareholders money and fattening his wallet in the process. I suspect jf has become a millionaire through gzfx and the enormous loses of it's shareholders. We will probably never know how many ways he has put shareholder money in his pockets.
NOW YOU KNOW WHY THE BUS'S PICTURE IS OFF OF THE WEBSITES. HE IS NO LONGER ANYONE'S HERO.
the 'bus' has taken everyone for a ride and you can't get a refund if you didn't like the ride.
THE 'BUS' LIVING THE DREAM - SHAREHOLDERS LIVING THE NIGHTMARE
jf is going to need some type of news to keep the price up here.
If he doesn't come up with something to get new people buying then watch out below. He is a pro at this scam so I think he's got something planned here - let's see what he comes up with. He is a very creative and talented con man. let's call jf the 'bus' from now on for obvious reasons.
I'm sure jf tried to cover his arse in every possible way but if all of the details were looked at closely as to where the money went and how he manipulated things for his personal gain there may be an outside chance that a jury would convict him. If they did however it would be a conviction of the entire otcbb and pink sheet market system because that is basically how all of these scams are born. In the otcbb and pink sheets you don't have to break the law to steal and that's where the real problem lies.
smart move asthmaed, stay away from these pennies.
smart move asthmaed, stay away from these pennies.
these ceos should be held accountable and the rules changed in the otcbb and pink sheets. jf probably did a good job of covering his arse but at least newbies can be informed to stay clear of this thing.
quizzy, jf's idea sounded good expect for 5 basic things. 1. he was way under capitalized to make a dvd and game internet mail order business work 2. he is incompetent to run such a business even if he had the money 3. he doesn't give a dam if the business is a success or not if he can keep sucking in new investors to take their money. 4. he is really just a professional con man who puts in a good days work to fatten his own pockets. 5. he doesn't give a dam about shareholder value or shareholders at all imo, he just counts on them not knowing about otcbb stocks and being very naive about investing so he can legally steal their money.
prissy, I'm not sure where it is listed about the reverse, wick should know.
the only kind of financing available to a pro like jf is this death spiral financing where the lender knows the game as well as jf. No bank or other traditional lending institution would ever lend money to a joke like this - it takes someone who knows how to play the game along with jf.
I would expect some news soon - like we're opening up in Europe or China or whatever. This will give some temporary support to the price while some more buy into jf's scheme. The news will however have no real teeth to it, just sound good. don't forget jf is a pro at this game. Then the dilution starts all over again and the price starts it's decline.
we'll see how much mileage jf can get out of this reverse split.
YOU WITNESSED WHITE COLLAR CRIME AT IT'S FINEST
jf needs to keep raising money to keep the game going and keep up his life style - at these levels he (ggi) couldn't sell enough shares to do that. sooo, let's do a reverse split and see if we can get some more naive investors buying and buy some more time for this thing. the writing was on the wall when he authorized the 25 billion shares and some shareholders knew it then and ran for the exits. jf's plan is unfolding and unfortunately many shareholders are seeing the result of jf's plan for them.
JF LIVING THE DREAM - SHAREHOLDERS LIVING THE NIGHTMARE
jf is the master of disaster for the average shareholder. he certainly is the master of what he does and we all know what that is.
jf knew from the beginning what he was doing and he got what he wanted. He was successful in his plan. that's life with these stocks. he could only get away with what he did in the otcbb or pinkies. I think most of these ceo's should be prosecuted - it's nothing more than sophisticated sickening white collar crime and jf is very good at it.
maybe we should take up a collection for jf, just in case gzfx
doesn't make it. He does have a very nice lifestyle he needs to keep up and we wouldn't want him to lose the bus or the Porsche.
All kidding aside, he is our ceo and we know he has only our best interests in mind.
I figure with the money he has pocketed from gzfx over the last few years he could only make about 250k per year on the interest from that money at a rate of about 5% and we know he can't live on that small amount.
I think they are moving it to China for the big roll out there.
so that's why jf has been expanding at the waistline, he's been testing those burgers. This has all been a front for his burger joint. So the bus is going to be changed into a food coach serving burgers and fries. He is a genius after all, and now that connection to MacDonalds makes sense. They're working on the ultimate burger and who better to test them than the big man himself.
agent, that would be nice. Maybe jf will announce the new European gzfx and then china and then maybe the Yucatan Peninsula. It sounds good and if we can't make it in the ol USA why not try some other countries - at least maybe we can make millions more dollars off of new shareholders.
everything seems to be fairly 'clear' right now.
the only thing he has in his back pocket is a big fat wallet full of shareholders money. I couldn't resist it.
I noticed jf's picture is still off of this site and probably all others as well. Good move by jf.
it will become clear that gzfx was set up to benefit one person and guess who that is. That doesn't seem right being a so called public company but them's the rules in penny land. Investing in gzfx and other otcbb and pink sheet stocks is like investing in the twilight zone - you know what you heard sounded good but what the heck happened - where did my money go - we were having such a good time on this board - it's all so bizarre.
JF LIVING THE DREAM - SHAREHOLDERS LIVING THE NIGHTMARE
les is going to a nice buffet and have a few beers and forget about those pesky message board dudes. Why do they bother me, I have given everyone very timely information, so I have been off a few times - what's the big deal.
in must be Warren Buffet
so far today ggi is letting the stock breath and recover from the dump yesterday. they will let the bids at .0001 build up in volume before unloading another 3,4 or 500 million shares. If they get too impatient they will push this down too quickly to a bid of .0000 and that makes it difficult to get much of anything.
I think jf is thrilled with the success of gzfx. that success was measured by the amount of money individual investors poured into the company and how much money jf was able to and is pocketing. That success was not measured by shareholders making money, that was never in the plan.
that's one of the elements that made this whole thing work and why jf is so good at this and dangerous to the wallets of naive investors. It's not expensive to open up those distribution centers compared to the money he could get from shareholders by giving the appearance he knew what he was doing. jf was having fun - kind of like throwing darts at a board - and if they stick fine and if they don't no big deal. He is basically incompetent to run a business like this and he was having fun spending money on this and that and all the time convincing investors to buy more shares. There are plenty of ways he got money out of this company and we will probably never know how much. Someone stated some time ago that his kids sold stock when it was around .10 a share and got about a million dollars each. He knew what he was doing from the beginning and the spending of money was necessary to bring in more shareholders to keep the thing going and he was having fun in the process. I'm sure he hoped it would be successful but not for the reason of making shareholders money, only so he could keep selling shares and filling his pockets. When he announced the 25 billion authorized shares he showed his true hand to those that know these stocks. it's the same game they all play just different stories and styles.
I would like to see this thing take off and people make their money back but the odds are slim here but of course not impossible. There are however patterns with these otcbb and pink sheet stocks and I think it is good for people to know that what happened here is text book for how these stocks work. Occasionally one makes it big time, but that is rare when compared to how many fail. Investing in these things may bring some hope of getting the big win and maybe even addicting but it is just a big financial disaster for most. Don't pay any attention to what the ceo of these companies is saying look at what is happening and how it relates to a real business in the same area. Don't get enamored with a smooth talking ceo that will talk to anyone that calls and says he means what he says and has big plans etc. No real ceo can spend hours talking to shareholders. Also look at the share structure and how many shares are hitting the market and how the company is financed etc. If all of this was understood and people had a taste of making small but consistent gains with good companies I don't think these small stocks would be appealing at all except maybe for a wild gamble of .01% of your portfolio.
anywho, you are right. I was using the word 'shell' to bring home a point but in the accurate definition I was wrong. I will stick with the word 'joke' of a company.
with a stock like this, there are no bashers. It is good to understand that what happened here was not some misfortune or accident, it was planned from the beginning. I suppose there was a one in a million chance jf's plan would have worked but it really made no difference to him. His real business is setting something up so he can sell shares and take as much money for himself as possible from all avenues and have a lot of fun in the process while shareholders lose everything. Not someone I would like to have on my team. He understands the psychology of naive investors and he used that to the nth degree here.
with the number of subs - this is a shell, a joke. Look at the millions he has spent and got nothing back. He has proven he is incompetent and we will never really know how much money he has put in his pocket. The real business for him is the selling of shares.
IMO, this is white collar crime at its finest.
I don't think he gives a darn about anything related to this joke of a business except his fat wallet. he set this up to suck in naive investors-that's the only way he is raking in the dough for himself. He in incompetent at running a business but can set something up when he has millions of shareholders dollars and is not held accountable for anything. He knew what he was doing from the start. This shell of a business is only a front to suck in millions of shareholders dollars and he is good at making a shell. The big money for him is coming from the selling of shares.
not for jf. he's sitting right where he wanted and has got plenty of money to start another gig, and probably enough to never have to work again.
ggi could probably sell a few billion shares at .0001 if they take their time. A billion shares is only 100k and jf needs a lot more money than that. I predict some sort of fluff news that sounds good but is really meaningless and the things pops a bit and the big dump starts and then they buy more time at a bid of .0001 to dump more shares. I'm sure ggi and jf are exploring their options here and believe me the shareholders are meaningless to them. The shareholders are just expendable pawns in the game. That's just the way these stocks work. A reverse split here is eminent. jf wants to keep the game going and he could buy a little more time with a reverse split and fatten his wallet a little at the same time. They want to milk the shareholders for all they're worth so they will probably wait till a bid of .0000 before the reverse.