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Exactly this!
A few are so disparately trying to paint a pretty picture that they are acting that this is some sorta low....0009-.0011 has been the top. This is the time to sell for those who were lucky/smart (more smart) to have loaded at 3-6.
Im the asshole who thought I need to get in when it surged months back and got in at about this rate..now I wanna punch myself in the face lol
So when so many are dumbfounded by why people are selling at .0008-001...its because they are cashing out profit.
Patience is key? Investors have been more than patient with JT and NSAV.
You know what is key. Transparency, honesty, follow through on promises and guarantees that are self imposed...that's key.
of course you didn't (but you probably did). So pathetically passive aggressive when people say that.
Everything that's there is straight fact after fact. But of course it goes against the la-la land believe that everything is kosher with NSAV.
Sell my shares and you'll take them? just go ahead and buy more, it's not like they aren't available. It's not like there is a supply and demand issue. lol
launch of what?
We've been out here for months with this "wait and see", "any day now", "next week", "it is with the (fill in the blank)", "about to blow", "going on a run"....
What product is out there from NSAV? What service are they ACTIVELY offering? Where are the revenue streams? Where are the dividends? What every happened to China Telecom?
Where is the hemp beer? Who is developing and/or manufacturing?
I hold more shares than I wish I ever did, struggling to even break even at this point...I was the rabbit and got caught up big time, like many others.
What will be the excuse from JT and all the "supporters" when Friday comes and goes and there is no 8K just like there was suppose to be one last week. And the financials aren't uploaded and the dividends aren't issued...who's fault is it then? What "typo", or "delay" or whatever will we hear then?
If you or anybody else had an employee like JT, who doesn't follow through with anything substantial or promised/guaranteed they'd be fired long time ago...if there was ACTUAL board of directors, any CEO or executive on that level would be ousted.
Who is employed by NSAV? Not one individual to be found on LinkedIN or any other site. No current or former individual employed by NSAV to be found.
Come on....is it not clear what this is? Really? is it not clear?
You go on NSAVs site or any of the sites that popped up in association with NSAV and you know what link never seems to work, the one that is suppose to go to LinkedIN. These things may seem small...but they are telling.
There are people on this forum that either have or do work on a managerial level, in the finance industry, or some sort of executive level and they can all attest that NOTHING of what is happening here is normal or acceptable.
How can an individual at this level a CEO or someone working with lawyers or accountants constantly "not know" that this or that filing needed to be done...or the order in which things are done. OR not know what a DTC eligibility (or non) means, or what is or isn't a chill...or what being current or not current would mean.
oooopsss...this post was only suppose to be "launch of what"
We're talking about "Tom Nelson" right?
https://www.tenassociatesllc.com/partners-our-bios/
https://twitter.com/StockAlert8
Looks like the same person to me.
And if I'm NOT completely crazy NSAV PRs are being put out by TEN Associates. At least thats what I saw at he bottom of the PR.
It would look like he's also the dude who runs the PR company that NSAV now uses.
Appreciate you sending this over. I'll look into making a switch from my current service.
Cheers
oh nice! assume that's what you're using?
What are the fees like. I actually just opened a banking account with them a month ago and have received a few marketing materials recently about their investing services.
I appreciate the thorough reply and totally agree/understand what you are saying...but respectively the legalities of MJ have nothing to do with the issues we've seen with timelines, failed promises on those timelines and such.
Maybe a misunderstanding on what I meant about the confidence portion of my post. That was in terms of him following through with his timelines posted on twitter...and I confident in marijuana in both what it can do economically and on a personal level, to those who consume...yes. I am, my lack of confidence is solely on him getting this stop lifted and this company DTC eligible...I've since stopped buying because being in Canada and using Qtrade to purchase, Im hit with 108 dollar commission charge for EACH fill of my order. So if my order can't be filled all at once that day I can look at huge commission fees. This all because of the DTC status.
It sucks...but hey, Im hopefully, but not blindly-hopeful.
Can you please elaborate for us "kiddies" because I've been hearing about the stop sign coming off soon since March. So definitely I need to look up what the word "soon" means as clearly my definition differs drastically from yours and JTs
I'd like some of your confidence to spill over to myself and others that have been hearing the same tune for months now.
ya I got in a little late when this initially started heading north back in May...I've been hopeful in turning a profit...but I'm just looking to break even at this point.
Regret not holding off because shortly after it went down to the 3-5...shoulda bought then...but hey hindsight right.
.0015 would make me more than happy at this point...cant deal with the stress and the lack of actual follow through from JT on his own timelines and vagueness
Crybaby2...you give up everyday, about 3-4 times a day! I feel you though! this shit is driving me crazy.
You posted that yesterday?
It is posted at Tuesday, 08/15/17 01:21:50 PM.
you get what I'm trying to say...yes it is a fact, but it's skewed perspective.
Not fair to post that percentage loss...you're talking about whole changes to the 4th decimal point.
22% drop a few minutes ago...back at 0% change right now.
I mean this time in July we were at .0003 and now we're at .0009...that's a 200% growth....why not post that?
Optics right...present info in a certain way to make a bias point.
of course I know they are prepared in Excel...but never have I seen them released to the public in an editable excel form...Nor are they released in a word doc.
These things are usually posted on company sites and officially announced, or done in a PDF file.
This thing isn't even password protected.
Stop defending JT. He no longer deserves it. We're complaining because he is not doing the things that matter. It's constant diversionary tactics. Nobody is "FINDING" reasons...he makes them very apparent.
LOL fair point!
Why would you or anyone expect this?
What has happened to indicate this stock is going up? False promises? Lack of follow through?
I don't understand the optimism. Can really use some.
Never in all my life have I seen a company put out their financials as an excel file! lol
It literally looked like a sample balance sheet you'd see online somewhere if you were trying to learn excel.
We should create a betting line on him releasing what he says he'll release and going current.
He's now overdue once again and his 2-3 week timeline.
Might be able to make more money betting against what he'll say he'll do/when it will happen.
Just hoping at this point the pps can go up to my average buy so I can at least break even.
There's always an excuse or blame set on somebody else when things are not done. He's the CEO, ultimately all blame is on him.
2 weeks...still haven't seen my div shares... Qtrade in Canada.
What up thoooo!?
I tend to go at Brojazzy at times but he's 100% correct on this (and many other things lol...but I get mad sometimes!). An NDA doesn't mean BIG things. In many cases NDAs are company policies even for the littlest of discussions...
The positive, it is great that there is communication between them and NSAV, but it's not indicative of any sorta of deal, merger, buy out, etc etc...
I've had to sign NDAs with companies just to have email communication.
Let's not get to ahead of ourselves.
For sure...
We communicated over email...went well, he explained his position, and unblocked me.
I've reached out to JT about it and he did respond to me.
being kind of a dick is no reason to be blocked.
I wasn't being offensive, accusing of anything or being disrespectful.
As a shareholder having invested a substantial amount of money, wanting a better idea of timelines and bringing up past timelines is perfectly acceptable. I think.
Oh wow...homeboy just blocked me on twitter after these two tweets...
"what good is on track when we don't know when that track ends. Or we're on schedule when nobody knows the schedule. We need concrete info"
"back in March or something we were about 30 days from being current. It's July now."
On principle, after investing thousands of dollars and owning shares in the 10's of millions, I honestly feel to dump all these shares.
As a shareholder of this volume I feel all kinds of disrespected.
Great! Thanks for that info Catsu1. Mind sharing which brokerage you are using.
Thanks for confirming. Curious, if you don't mind sharing, what brokerage are you using?
I'll reply inline to this thread when they are posted into my account, if you don't mind doing the same, that would be great.
Cheers
Anybody with a Canadian brokerage or specifically using Qtrade see their dividend?
I have not received mine. I also spoke with my brokerage and they cannot locate any official information of the dividend payout.
Thomson Reuters has no news of a dividend for NSAV. Little odd, I've never had this issue...and all dividends I've every received were publicized.
You're not involved in the day to day and the details that are going back and forth, or the hold ups. So you can't say it "should" be done by now.
We have to trust it is being worked on. I know many are discounting all the things he's done because it isn't the THING you want. But he hasn't given any reason to think this just isn't being done or delayed purposely.
why is this a sticky?
Getting current isn't entirely on him. You have to depend on other people and processes...surely you understand this. I'm sure you and the others complaining about this have/do work at organizations and a lot of times you have hold ups that are completely out of your hands.
He and the other parties involved are working on it, what can he possibly do. If he was silent on it people would complain about being in the dark. He puts out constant updates and that's a problem.
So we're just going to ignore all the work he's done because he tweets...it takes no time to write a 140 character tweet and if you can't do that to update your shareholders and "work" then you have a bigger problem.
? about terminology.
I've seen terms used to describe when a stock goes to a nickle or dime...I can't remember if it was termed bronze, or silver, etc..
Hoping somebody can jog my memory, I'm completely drawing a blank.
Thanks!
Barchart has this as 100% sell all across the board, short, mid and long term...damn!
https://www.barchart.com/stocks/quotes/ACOL/opinion
I'm currently down almost 60% from my average. Down over $10k... I'm holding to see if this goes back to 2-3 cent range in the next few months, but not holding my breath on that.
Hopefully that finalization of acquisition comes through sooner than later, but if previous trends of "good news" hold true, doesn't seem like that will make this move up.
At the end of the day, we need people to be buying, we need more investors...good news doesn't necessarily mean more buying and more investors as we've seen.
This sucks!
Im holding...
but the same was said about the 10K and then the 10Q...and all other good news. but always down with the news.
Too many selling, not enough buying. That chart is nothing but RED right now.
Can't really blame ONELOVE...
I'm trying to be positive...holding on. But seeing a drop of almost 50% from my average is very disheartening. Tough to see my market value almost half of the book value. Also tough to see a 76% decrease in about 3 months.
Such is investing...you win some, you lose some. I think this may be a loss for the foreseeable future for those of us that weren't lucky enough to get in during the double and triple 0's. Hopefully I'm wrong and it rebounds sooner than later.
What kinda fees are you guys getting hit with when trying to fill an order.
Qtrade is charging 100 due to the non-DTC status. Also requires orders be placed over the phone, web portal doesn't allow for it. Super inconvenient
Just curious.
Overnight???
almost 60 days ago he said he'll have this done in 30 days.
Not patient?
That's the point I'm trying to make.
He keeps on mentioning it, but there isn't any specifics on the actions that are taking place, where it currently stands, who/what is causing the hold up, etc etc...
It's like when you promise your kid you'll get them that present they keep on asking about and every time they ask "when", you just reply again and say "I'll get you that present".
He'll say things like he's working hard to get NSAV current and so and so forth (and Im glad), but I'm an adult who invested thousands. I don't want to hear about how hard you are working at it. I want to know where it stands, what the timelines are, what are the hold ups. He has shown himself to be transparent (I suppose), but frankly, not exactly on this.
Should I hate myself as much as I do right now for going in heavy at .0011 on friday :(
SHHHHIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTT!!!!
ah...when you said impatient and leave, I thought you meant leave as in sell off.
I do agree though, the comments and the "fear" is kinda of comical.