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Is there something new here in your post that you have not posted at least 100 times?
The answer to your question is 'the Market Makers'.
All is not lost yet though. There was quite a bit of volume on the way up to the .0069 range. The majority of the selling was the MM's into the buyers. They have to get rid of that at some point if this is going to go higher.
If you look at the 50 SMA for the 30 min time frame you will see that it was down at .0041 on the day that there was over 10Mil on the first half hour on 8/5. It peaked today @ .0058. If you take those levels and add them together, then divide by 2 you will see the 50% retracement is .00495.
We see this has happened in a 2 week period which means that a week of retreat to bring down that 50 SMA for the 30 min time frame to about the .005 area would be normal and healthy for a rising market. You can do the same for the 50 SMA 60 Min time frame. If it reverses and goes higher than .0058 this dip would have been very healthy.
We will have to wait and see how this plays out. But, as I have said MANY times here, the MM's are in control and they will not release this until they have to... that means they ALL have their ducks in a row for it to go. If they are still short, then they will continue to drive it down even though they are supposed to be 'neutral'.
There has only been 16mil in volume today against over 200 Mil in the past 2 weeks.
It would be very positive for this to close the day between .005 and .0054.
SM
Your last chance for .005's... .004's are gone forever IMO.
Why is there talk of a merger or sale? Is this where the rumor mill gets started, just to pump and then dump. Management has NO PLANS of sharing this with anyone else, unless it is with a '500' company that wants minor ownership. No deal here on the OTC IMO.
This company is for real, but it might be only for the patient. There might even be a RS at some point, but the revenue will be through the roof by that point and might get some real investors if it were to be trading @ $5 or so and leaves this OTC land for maybe the Nasdaq pastures.
There is no stopping the growth of this company IMO, but we will have to see if the 'early investors' will get rewarded or those in the future.
You can get in for the investment of try to trade it. I think the traders are going to be sorry in the years to come.
We have to have multiple closes in the .007's and higher. No more 'spikes', just a steady rise with consolidation areas.
BTDG! The real deal. Steady as she goes.
SM
Hello again Ben,
You state: 'once they suspended trading for either fraud or suspicious activity, that immediately kills all momentum and or faith in the company.'
I would NOT think that a ticker would be suspended for the illegal activities of MM's for Price Manipulation. I would guess the individual trader in the MM firm would be fined and then suspended if it continues. If it is seen to be a 'pattern' of the MM Firm itself then fining the firm and suspending their privileges of 'making a market'. I would think that business for all else would stay the same. If I had to make a guess, trading might actually increase seeing the the investors money has legitimate change of not being 'pissed down the tubes'. Just my opinion though. Plus, what momentum are we talking about? This has not had a positive momentum in quite some time. Maybe it would be good to disrupt this negative momentum for a while.
You state: 'If there were anything truly suspicious then I would have found something in filings...'
I do not know what you would expect to find in the filings since those are from the company and I am not accusing them of any wrong doing. This is all the game (or theft) of the MM's.
You state: 'but just seems to me like MMs know how to psychologically get people to sell or buy by using charts and pricing points.'
It sure is easy when you can show only 10K on an ASK and sell hundreds of thousands to millions, while convincing that 'it's thin as hell on L2 all the way up to...'. This happens around resistance points, trend lines and SMA's. It is all done to LIE about what is going on in the market.
You state: ' company is diluting small amounts of shares. MMs cannot buy shares directly from noteholders or company...'
I would be interested in knowing how you can tell that it is the company selling shares way down here and it is not the MM's 'washing'. Please help me see how you know that is what is happening.
Also, I was not aware of the restrictions of the MM's not being able to fill the 'noteholders' or 'company's' sell order. Can you let me in on where I might do some studying up on this. I was under the impression that they had to make a market for ALL transactions. Thanks.
Lastly, It seems there are 82 MM's listed for OTC. I would think that we are in really bad shape if the SEC tracks down and disciplines a handful that are do these illegal trades that are causing Price Manipulation. Out of 82 I would think they would offer it up to another MM if one got suspended.
SM
Thank you for your reply.
I am out of time today, have to take care of a few things. I will digest your reply to me and reply back soon.
SM
There was a private message to me, but I can not respond to a PM so I will respond here for all to see.
It was said ' it's an algo and to watch the pattern'. I understand that is probably the case; and then it would be easier for it to be tracked down since they are illegal trades happening and it is programmed to do these things.
As for all trading to stop... I do not have any opinion on what would happen if the thieves are held accountable.
Imagine if the MM's authority was revoked and every other MM's authority was revoked if they were found to be illegally trading? Are you trying to tell me the whole system would fall apart and there is not a handful of honest MM's that would allow the market to trade AND be neutral? They just get the commission that is due them for performing the trades of the public?
Thanks for the response, I do appreciate it.
SM
Still does not make it legal or right.
This is the main reason that I am doing this! I want people to know that there is something that they can do, and it will be effective if enough investors 'kill the website with 'tips'. I have pointed out soo many, that it becomes easy to spot after a short amount of time.
The SEC HAS TO IVESTIGATE!
SM
Yes there is plenty of room...I agree.
Besides the 'stealing' that is going on from the MM's and we can talk about that at some point if you like, the share price of a year ago does not hold the same meaning with the Outstanding shares being around 1 Billion, instead of 100 Mil.
The problem with letting the MM's get away with this constantly is that when the company has to sell shares they have to sell sooooooo many more to do the same business than if it were not manipulated.
Example: If this is trading @ .01 the would have to sell half as many shares than @. 0050. This has such long term effects on our investments and the profitability of the company.
Do not get me wrong... I like this company and think there is plenty of 'sunny days' ahead for what they are doing. But it does not change the fact the the MM's are stealing from us and the company.
When you have to 'dilute' 200M shares to make a deal instead of 50M or 100M, that will effect the share price forever. And that includes ALL that invest in it.
That is my concern and I think there is at least a partial solution if investors will get involved.
How many here would stand by and watch a retail store in which they are partial owners get held up day in and day out by a punk gang demanding 'protection' money without trying to figure something out?
This just makes my head spin!
SM
Anyone catching this?
100,000's bought into a 40K ASK @ .0048... then down she goes.
THEN 100,000's bought into a 50K ASK @ .0047...
Now washed back to .0046, BUT of course they are 'neutral' and there is nothing for us to do but take it up the Kazoo!
Now washed @ .0045 EVEN WITH 192K on .0046
SM
Very Nice!
That place is over 220,000 Square feet. Nice size venue if it sold out.
Does anyone know what the Covid capacity percentage is? 50%, 75%, 100%?
I see that they just enacted a mandatory 'face mask policy' for this place on Aug.5.
I think that would hurt the turn out numbers. Who wants to cheer for their favorite fighter yelling through a mask?
SM
I have NO IDEA of what you are talking about. I am long this stock for quite some time. I have not sold one share since I started to invest in this company. If you think that there is ANYTHING negative coming from me against this company, then you are really not understanding.
As I have said many times, my problem is with the breaking of the law and the outright theft of people's money and the company's shares that have to be sold in 'dilution'... since this should be at least .03-.04 IMO.
You got me wrong if you think I am against this. I have about 1.5 Mil shares at this point.
SM
Since the MM's have 3 days to clear their trades and even longer in some cases with little repercussions, I think that would be hard to do since they have 'unlimited backing'.
Since my last post on the subject, I have noted over 20 'illegal' trades by them. The correct thing to do IMO is here:
https://www.sec.gov/complaint/select.shtml
There have been so many that it would take the SEC 6 months to go through all the trades.
SM
The latest is over 220K into 10K ASK @ .0049. But still showing the 10K on the ASK
I am glad that you agree and I think that there are others here that do also.
I just wanted to point out that when you submit one you will be given a 'submission number'. That is the number that you can use to contact them and ask them where they are on it.
I have always had someone assigned to my submission and they have contacted me by email, and then by phone on many occasions. Just to let you know though, they can not tell you the outcome. He always told me to 'watch the administrative actions' for the outcome.
It takes a little bit of work to follow it and know who the players are that they are investigating, but it can be done. Also, I have had really good agents at times that would call or email and ask if I had checked the actions lately...knowing that it just got posted that day or the day before.
You might not ever know or even care of the outcome, BUT an agent will be assigned and they have to look into the tip and request the information from the MM's. The MM's do not like that kind of light being shown on their business.
SM
Of course I know. I have been trading OTC for 12 years or so. But, the SEC has been taking action as of late on many avenues. I just do not like to sit by see everyone being manipulated AND saying that 'that's just the way it is... nothing we can do about it'.
Someone just PM me and told me that 'it is called a wall'. I can not disagree with the term, BUT it does not make it legal.
Sometimes you have to chum the water before the fish will come close to eat. I am hoping that there are some 'sharks' out there that are listening and want to try and do something about this.
Thanks again for your reply.
SM
Thank you for your reply... but I would have to disagree with you somewhat as in 'there is nothing we can do'.
I have posted this many times and I will post it again here for all to consider.
The SEC is taking an active roll, but they can not monitor everything.
The link is here:
https://www.sec.gov/complaint/select.shtml
Questions and Complaints
Report a possible securities fraud
NOTICE:
We strongly encourage the public (whistleblowers and non-whistleblowers) to submit any tips, complaints, and referrals (TCRs) using the SEC's online TCR system and complaint form at https://www.sec.gov/tcr. If you submit your TCR using the online TCR system, you will receive a notice confirming that your submission has been received successfully and providing the submission number for your records.
Ask a question or report a problem concerning your investments, your investment account or a financial professional
Learn about the whistleblower provisions in the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act
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Now here is a sample 'tip' to send to them online...
On August 8, 2021 I have noticed many trades that seem to be out of the ordinary and could even be considered 'Price Manipulation. These trades that I am specifically talking about started @ 10:48 AM where there was a total of 1.2 million shares traded on the Bid of only 10K. Then after the sequence of these trades you will notice that there are trades that are being done under the then current ASK of .0046 @ .0045 and below. This does not seem right to me and I think someone should check into the order flow and which accounts/ MM's are involved. It is my understanding that the MM's are supposed to be 'neutral' and let the 'free market' flow. (Again, Just a sample here).
The MM's would get soo tired of having the SEC request documentation on all those trades: who traded to whom, in what accounts, when did the orders come in and were they filled in the correct order, etc. The SEC has to investigate ALL 'tips'.
If we would work together to submit tips to them, we could be a part of cleaning this BS up.
It is all up to all of you...one person can not do alone.
Any thoughts, let me know.
SM
I can not even list all the 'illegal' trades going on today. There has literally been dozens of trades that have racked up millions in volume that were against of a small bid size. This is like the wild wild west with no one willing to call the sheriff.
Take a look at the 'Trades' up there in the 'Tools' section and you will see that a lot of these are 'wash trades'. They do them in groups that end up to be about the same volume. 'BUY' and "SELL' volume is almost identical.
What thieves!
It really does not matter if it eventually goes up. They should not be able to manipulate the SP and then think how lucky we are when they allow it to bounce a bit.
SM
Look at all the trades @ .0048 that are being done on only a 10K ASK RIGHT NOW!
So now we see 250,000 sold @ .0043 and then 250,000 bought back @ .0041....BUT...the ASK is .0042. (2:21 PM)
Does that not sound like someone is manipulating the Price?
Those trades along with many others seems to be illegal and keeping the price down.
What you think?
SM
I really agree with you, but it will not go anywhere until they stop this BS. We have a volume of over 17 Mil now, but just over 100k on a sell lowers the BID and they put over 1Mil on the ASK now.
I like your saying...
'Surrounded by thieves, lets fight our way out!'
Anyone have any fight for these thieves around here?
SM
Now we are over 220K MORE than before of buys on a 10K ASK.
What Up?
Can I ask you what you are going to do with your shares when it reaches .01? How about .02?
What do you think is the 'fair' Share Price at this point?
What do you think is the fair Market Valuation for this at this time?
I asked you before, but did not get an answer from you, but where is the 'real' message board? Can you provide a link?
Thanks,
SM
125K in several sales against 10K on the ASK.
10K on ASK does not budge? Again and again and again...
Sound like 'neutral' MM's?
Case in point...
3:40 PM sale of 100K @ .0039 with a BID @ .0038 with 212K on it.
3:41 PM sale of 100K @ .0037 with the same BID of .0038 still with 212K on it.
How can that not be a manipulation?
I think that is something legit that the SEC could look into and answer. What else are they there for?
If you are holding 2Mil long that just cost you $400.
If they are holding 20Mil. short, they just made them $4,000.
Thank you again for your response.
Other than my last post, I just wanted to point out that an Iceberg trade is only legal when it is NOT trying to manipulate the SP. It is meant to hide LARGE orders with multiple smaller orders at the same price.
As I said in my last post, the SEC is able to tell if it was actually an Iceberg trade or if it is price manipulation. Was there actually several orders in there or were they 'baiting' investors of buying at a certain price knowing they 'churning' or 'washing' with the cooperation of other MM's to move it lower.
The SEC can track all orders and where they came from and at what time they were put in. It is not hard for them to track if they are made aware of when and where it is going on.
I sure hope others start taking an active roll in making them aware of what they see.
Thanks again,
SM
Thank you for your response.
My purpose here is to point out things that I believe should not be happening and could be illegal. I think most investors believe there is nothing that they can do about it. That is just not the case and the SEC is taking an active interest in investigating 'tips'. If you notice below it says that 'it can be hard for authorities...'. I am making traders aware of what they can do and how to spot these things.
I can not do this all by myself, but for those that monitor real time trades of their investments, it just takes a few minutes to report suspicious 'activity' to the SEC for them to investigate. It can be done here:
https://www.sec.gov/complaint/select.shtml
It just takes a couple of minutes. Imagine if we all monitored our investments and reported all we saw? We need to be the eyes and ears for the SEC. They are actually begging for traders help instead of just thinking they have to take it.
Informative article below:
Definition
Market manipulation is the act of intentionally increasing or decreasing the price of a security or somehow else manipulating the market’s behavior because of personal gains. Mostly market manipulation is illegal, but it can be hard for authorities and regulators to notice whether it is happening or not. In addition, market manipulation can become a challenge for the person responsible in case the number of the participants in the market increases.
It is very easier to manipulate the stock price of smaller businesses because other market participants and analysts do not monitor them closely as they monitor medium and large businesses. Market manipulation is also known as stock manipulation or price manipulation.
Market manipulation can take different forms in the markets. One way the price of a security can be deflated is by placing several hundreds of smaller orders at a much lower price compared to the price that the security is being traded. As a result, the investors get the understanding that there is something not right with the company, hence making them sell the securities at even a lower price.
Another example of market manipulation is whereby different brokers place buy-and-sell orders simultaneously, and the brokers cancel each other but giving out the perception of increased interest in the security because of the increased volume.
Forms of market manipulation
Market manipulation can be found in some of the following forms:
Churning. This is when traders place buy-and-sell orders at the same price, and this is usually meant to attract more investors and increase the price at the same time.
Painting the tape. Here, a group of traders creates rumors or activities to increase the stock price. This is also known as ‘Ramping’ or ‘Runs.’
Wash trading. The trade sells and re-purchases the same security or a substantial amount of the same security to generate more activity and increase the price as well.
Bear raiding. This is where a trade attempts to reduce the stock price through either short or heavy selling.
Cornering the market. This is the scenario where the trader purchases enough of a certain commodity, stock or another asset in order for him or her to control the supply and be able to determine the price for it.
Insider trading. Here, insiders with critical and confidential information about a business capitalize on that knowledge to make a profit and avoid losses via buying and selling of stocks.
Thank you for your response.
My purpose here is to point out things that I believe should not be happening and could be illegal. I think most investors believe there is nothing that they can do about it. That is just not the case and the SEC is taking an active interest in investigating 'tips'. If you notice below it says that 'it can be hard for authorities...'. I am making traders aware of what they can do and how to spot these things.
I can not do this all by myself, but for those that monitor real time trades of their investments, it just takes a few minutes to report suspicious 'activity' to the SEC for them to investigate. It can be done here:
https://www.sec.gov/complaint/select.shtml
It just takes a couple of minutes. Imagine if we all monitored our investments and reported all we saw? We need to be the eyes and ears for the SEC. They are actually begging for traders help instead of just thinking they have to take it.
Informative article below:
Definition
Market manipulation is the act of intentionally increasing or decreasing the price of a security or somehow else manipulating the market’s behavior because of personal gains. Mostly market manipulation is illegal, but it can be hard for authorities and regulators to notice whether it is happening or not. In addition, market manipulation can become a challenge for the person responsible in case the number of the participants in the market increases.
It is very easier to manipulate the stock price of smaller businesses because other market participants and analysts do not monitor them closely as they monitor medium and large businesses. Market manipulation is also known as stock manipulation or price manipulation.
Market manipulation can take different forms in the markets. One way the price of a security can be deflated is by placing several hundreds of smaller orders at a much lower price compared to the price that the security is being traded. As a result, the investors get the understanding that there is something not right with the company, hence making them sell the securities at even a lower price.
Another example of market manipulation is whereby different brokers place buy-and-sell orders simultaneously, and the brokers cancel each other but giving out the perception of increased interest in the security because of the increased volume.
Forms of market manipulation
Market manipulation can be found in some of the following forms:
Churning. This is when traders place buy-and-sell orders at the same price, and this is usually meant to attract more investors and increase the price at the same time.
Painting the tape. Here, a group of traders creates rumors or activities to increase the stock price. This is also known as ‘Ramping’ or ‘Runs.’
Wash trading. The trade sells and re-purchases the same security or a substantial amount of the same security to generate more activity and increase the price as well.
Bear raiding. This is where a trade attempts to reduce the stock price through either short or heavy selling.
Cornering the market. This is the scenario where the trader purchases enough of a certain commodity, stock or another asset in order for him or her to control the supply and be able to determine the price for it.
Insider trading. Here, insiders with critical and confidential information about a business capitalize on that knowledge to make a profit and avoid losses via buying and selling of stocks.
3:06 PM
62,500 buy into THE SAME 50K ASK... no move up... no change in ASK volume.
???
12:21 PM
How do you have 110k bought into a 50K ASK @ .0046 and it does not move up and there is still 50K on the ASK?
Is this market manipulation?
https://www.sec.gov/complaint/select.shtml
It is your money if you have invested in this and they are not being 'neutral' as they should be.
SM
From 12:07:52 to 12:09:08 there were exactly 262,500 shares traded that brought the SP down to .0037. Then we have exactly 262,500 shares trade @ .0036 at 12:09:37 and it is not registered on charts.
How can there be a trade of .0036 when the Bid is @ .0037?
Do you think this might be price manipulation?
Almost always to the downside.
It would be interesting to know what MM's made these transaction happen and what accounts they were credited to.
https://www.sec.gov/complaint/select.shtml
Questions and Complaints
Report a possible securities fraud
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Ask a question or report a problem concerning your investments, your investment account or a financial professional
Learn about the whistleblower provisions in the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act
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Where might this be?
'follow on the main no-nonsense $PSRU board elsewhere.'
News Out...
This is very good news. Just taking those figures of 301K in revenues in the last month with no growth from here would take Total Revenues for the next 12 months to 3.6 Million.
I do not know if the 'Event Revenues' will stay steady for the next 12 months... I guess that it would depend on how many events we do and if we can continue to 'double up' at each location where we would only have 1 set up cost and 2 revenue events.
But for our Gym revenue... I do not see this declining at all and we should have a steady growth in Revenues.
Management touched on the 'Sponsors Revenue'. I remember me posting on this a little while ago and said that 'all we are really missing is a 'good' sponsor or two and we would see revenues take off'. I think this is just the start of the sponsorship revenue. I would like to see us maximize this sponsorship revenue by looking into 'Branding' our gyms with a half dozen or so sponsors that would increase the gym revenue. (management... are you listening?)
On a more positive side to the discussions on this forum... I guess we can now call 'BS' to whom ever says 'PR's always promise record revenues, but never deliver... can't even do a million in revenues'. Looks like that will be done in about a 3 month period if not less.
On a cautionary note... we can not continue to use 'toxic financing' for gym growth. We need to slow down on the issuing of shares and concentrate on maximizing margins on the events and especially the gyms.
I would like to know some things though. If anyone has this information I would appreciate you passing it on.
1. How many people does it take to hold an event?
2. How much do we have in 'equipment, etc.' that has to be transported from event to event? Do we own our own transportation equipment?
3. What is the average over all expense for a typical event?
4. How much is the average cost to 'rent the facility' where the event is held?
5. How much more is it to rent a larger facility?
I will have more later I would think.
One last thought... I do not think that we should be allowing the fights to be viewed for free until about 5 days after the end of the event. I think there are to many people that are not paying to see the fights and just waiting for it to become available for free. We are leaving some PPV revenue on the table IMO. 5 days is a good time frame IMO, because it is long enough that it would encourage more people to pay for the viewing and not too long that it might encourage more to buy the PPV before the next event. So, for example... the Saturday fight will be available for free the next Thursday.
Anyways, Great news out from our management team!
SM
washy washy!
1 min. and 10 seconds before the bottom of the hour (30 Min. SMA's), another 1.5 mil. Of course it ends back down @ .004.
Do not forget to notice that there is now 10K @ .0041 ASK.
How would you like to bet that a 10K buy does not move that 10K off the .0041 ASK?
10:58:38... $88 trade. (closes the hour lower)
11:01:19... $86 trade. (starts the hour higher... big deal). We will see where the hour closes. Want to bet .0040 or lower?
You seeing that washing machine out working hard?
I did not even get to finish this post before another set of $35 wash trades that now has the SP back @ .004... yes, below ALL SMA's.
Now back @ .0039. Notice again the amount on the BID of 3M and the total volume today of 3.4M. What might that say? The pubic has only 'invested' about $1500 while the MM's are going to 'wash' another 3M of trades today...minimum.
10:47:08... $10 sale of 2500 @ .004. To understand this one you have to dig into the 'ticks' and '1 minute'. If it was left any longer up there, it would have started to move upward the 'ticks' SMA.
Also notice now that 690K is on the ASK @ .0043. In longer term SMA's, everything will hold in the downward direction as long as there in not continual 'close' for the 30 and 60 SMA's. Anyone here going to spend that $3000 to move it upward at this point? That is even if they let that be done and not stack more @ .0043.
SM
Now notice the trade of $4 @ .00415 just 6 seconds after 100k traded @.0042. Trade time 9:50:16. Yes, a whopping $4.
Now only 10 seconds after the top of the hour, there was a trade for $42 @ .0042. What did that trade do? Glad you asked! That trade immediately took the '5' SMA from proceeding in an upward move to a severe correction downward AND it kept the '50' continuing on it's downward path. It only took a $42 trade to do all that. But it could have been done as easily with a $4 trade. That tells me that they plan an taking out that other 90K sitting @ .0042 before the hour is up.
WOW...as I was just writing this @10:07:11 they just did that. Now we see 1.9M on the ASK @ .0041.
We are now back to .004, with the SP below all SMA's. WOW .0039 now.
Take notice now of how much is on the Bid @ .0039. It is almost the exact amount that has been traded so far today. Can anyone say 'wash'.
Be back later!
SM
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Report a possible securities fraud
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Let us all take special note of the 100 shares that were sold @ .0040. That sale of a whopping 40 cents then put the current share price BELOW the 5,10,20 and 50 SMA for the 30 min time frame. Trade time: 09:35:06
That must be those 'crooks' again at the company having to do all that dilution of a whopping 40 cents.
Anyone still believing that stuff being shoveled around here?
SM
Hello again Kbaz,
I was wondering if you had tried to respond to my reply to your post?
I see that IHub is having technical difficulties as of lately.
When I look at the post #'s on the left, starting with 46206... 207-215,217,222,223,225,227, AND 239-261 have all not registered on the board.
I was wondering if any of those were maybe yours that you were responding back to me about the financials, etc.
If need be, you could try to start with a private message to me, it might have a better chance of not developing technical difficulties.
Thanks,
SM
I have been pointing that out for quite a while now. I have even posted a remedy that others could do, but there does not seem to be any real interest in taking on those that are doing the manipulating.
If there were a handful of investors that would report what they see, the SEC would have so many trades to investigate that the MM's would have no option, but to quit. They do not like to have the light shined on what they are doing.
Can you imagine if the SEC got a dozen 'requests' or tips for every suspicious trade?
Hello Kbaz,
I asked this before but there was no response from the board. I think that it would be a great idea to have a discussion on the 'financials' and other reports that have been posted by the company over the past year or so.
In my opinion there is way too much of just 'general information' about many subjects here including the financial situation, OS, SP, and the constant 'liars, cheats, and crooks, etc.'
You seem to have something to say about the financial condition of the company and what the financials have to say the way you see them. I would be interested to hear specifically what you have to say. There is no arguments here, but I will probably have questions for you.
Not everyone is a CFO or an accountant, so I could use any insight that you might want to offer.
What do you say about putting a detailed post about what you see? I hope so.
SM
How can there be several million shares traded @ .0040 into only 100k on the ASK?
How can there be a bid of .0037 and have non registered trades filled @ .0036?
Has anyone else seen this market manipulation that has been consistently happening for the past several months?
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Somebody wants this capped at .0039. It makes NO SENSE coming from the company.
Anybody going to take that out before the close?
Would be interested to know WHO specifically wants this capped.
2M on ASK @ .0039. Guess there is nothing but hot air.
12 minutes left. All you can eat here!