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No it wasn't available when I went there. No one knew what I was talking about.Si I dropped the question
I was referring to that one of Feb. I guess like everyone says..like the system it's play as you go..it's a shame. the investors and the lenders would need one for their books
I posted a request last night: " Has anyone seen the published business plan that was to be out in March." It would be great for everyone to have it and track the company's progress in relation to their published directives. This would clear up a ton of guessing because all the facts and figures, quantities, plans, financing, contracts info would be easy to follow/
You got to be kidding I'm from Euclid Ohio
Yeh, I am not bothered but I do worry about everyone either hoping for this to go big board and the reality is: Can it be commercialized to make a profit. They are charging $xm for a 10 acre development and promised incredible revenues. You should see the numbers (I really promised not to make public this stuff) but if DF is right, it's a home run for the investors, BEHL shareholders and everything is possible. I'm too conservative and just hate to see all these guys hanging on to the dream as regard to the true value of the stock potential in the near future. I feel that a lot of guys and gals have bet the farm on this company and are in too high for realistic big returns this year. The issues regarding OTCBB are much more complicated then was outline in your mail. The auditing will be a hellish exercise just to mention one. I, unfortunately won't be visiting the plant too soon in the future. It's summer time, golf s usual, boating on the coast and family get to-gathers etc. I'll , of course, speak to them from time to time but they'll all be pretty much in the field and on the road. I wish you had gotten more satisfying answer about the Plant PBR..it's too long getting feed back and everyone is worried. Thanks and talk to you later, buckeye!
This is a good point. Has anyone seen the business plan (written version)? Any reason why it hasn't been published? It was supposed to be available in march. It would be a great thing for their site. That way we could track their progress by using the same yardstick they use. Maybe when BehlGates talks to Dennis or Monique he can pose that question.
Great post Gates, enjoyed your comments.
I have not used nor been exposed to any confidential info to my advantage to disadvantage any shareholder is the answer. I went too the plant and was exposed to confidential info on a strict basis of confidentiality. This is done all the time to shareholders and the general public at large vendors, business consultant etc. There has been no unfair advantage from which I, nor anyone else has profited. I trust this answers your question. If so, where's the proof otherwise? Thanks for the question.
Nuances not nuisances!
I may have gotten the numbers wrong 50 gals per day sounds right to me but this is all guess work.
All the projections and claims so far are not accurate nor dealt with in a scientific basis ( Verified by a third independent source) they are Dennis's estimates and he has scaled up the numbers to acre size, 5 acre size to 10 acre size to 150 acre size ...we could go on all day as some like to do here..it's all just math Anyone with a knowledge of excel and a spreadsheet can do the same.
Yeh, I know more than I am letting on...but confidentiality is confidentiality. and I still believe in Dennis Fisher and I will be the last to criticize him. Perhaps we're dealing with the "Peter Principle" perhaps we're not, only time will tell. Yes, I encouraged the board to buy. I did. and there were a lot of reasons which I personally believed then to do so. There was a 10% gain between then and before the recent drop I profited...did you? 10% gain in a week x 52 weeks = 520% per/anum to me. You guys don't know when to fold and to hold! Those who got stuck in at .015 are who I sold to when I bailed last summer at .017 and I bought in at .003. This stock has been all over the place but for 9 months it is where it is. As I stated before it's where the charts say it ought to be and nothing , I say nothing, short of solid revenues will make it go up. This company and it's unproven technology is not a target for a merger, or capable of a reverse merger (not a reporting company per SEC rules) Unless they make fatal decisions and are unable to collect sufficient investors, small as they may be, and they can.t stay cobbled together or until the plant PBR proves out, then it's bye bye BEHL. This is the reality of a small pinkie company and it would be sad. But Dennis' vision and his idea is unique and it remains to be seen if a Lab experiment can be practical in the field. I've seen the parts, the trials and it like re-inventing everything (as anyone who visits the plant can see). As I have said it's not plug and play.
A lot of you have surmised all this. I don't know how to express it any better. There's zeal, basic honesty from the staff and a burning ambition to make this work. I believe if RWE gets the Joint venture going with the BEHL system (they have the muscle and are way ahead of the field farms now envisioned) then results will prove out there before anywhere else. If they are delayed for some reason then I hope it's not BEHL's fault. If you have bet the farm, good luck. You should not bet the farm on any stock, particularly a penny stock and a start up! Claims have been made under Dennis Shen. Since November Dennis Fisher owns it. Give him a chance it's only 60 days since the annual meeting!
Southern California is from Paso Robles to the Mexican border
some 2750 square miles. Palm Springs is just in that area Some where in So. California! From the Mojave Desert to the Pacific Ocean
Please let me say once and for all. I will not be replying to each and everyone's comments that either agree or argue with what I state here. I've got more to do and they are usually contentious and I can't get into that. If BEHL states that something has happened you have to believe that they are telling truth. Why question them. They are carrying out the work of the company. If the statement of Land was stated as secured, it has been corrected. It is of serious consideration, etc. Please save yourselves the anguish of hanging on to each and every word..if they said secured perhaps subject to further considerations or other issues to conditionally confirm the location, etc. The share price is tanking...obvious delusions have taken place...with no revenue streams..and I don't mean deposits...this will remain the problem until an economic viable beneficial change is made.Even after the Farm programs are implemented until they make a profit and post it there is no revenue pluses. These are months away. I have a lot of shares in this company and only because of that am I posting a reply. I am not available to verify their every move and nuances. I know these people and trust them. Can they make mistakes yes, so can you all. You invested to make money, so did I. You are an investor not an employee or manager. You're not their cop on the beat nor their judge or jury. If you doubt everything get out! If you are willing to take the risk stop complaining! If you just are discussing then get your facts right.
This is not directed to anyone nor to the individual I'm responding to certainly I mean no offense.
Certainly if I have anything to add that would be beneficial to us all..I'll speak up! re-read all my posts. You'll get the idea. Thanks for the chance to speak up. You'll not get any negativity from me. Thanks
Because of confidentially issues I can not give you the proof. But Palm Springs California site referred to in publications, 5 miles from my house, is not the next BEHL site to be developed for commercial PBR nor the properties posted around the windmills, furnaces etc. The 98 acres are scheduled and contracted for Solar Panels, a Liquidized Gas operation and fuel tank storage by BP (regular fuel and Bio fuel) Nothing to do with BEHL The site that was offered and considered by BEHL was not this 98 acre site's exact location.or Indian reservations here in the Coachella Valley 45 miles in either direction. This was decided on the 18th of April 2010 and verified to the land owners by 1st may 2010. This doesn't mean they may not take up the consideration at a later date. as I have stated previously, but for now it is out of contention. Those sites were being considered. Why they were posted is beyond me if they weren't formally contracted for by both the land owners and BEHL. But none-the-less, BEHL has so many factors to consider in determining a site. Too many to list. Just hold your horses, be patient and wait for the news when they can release it. There are no sites nor entity that BEHL can keep secret from it's shareholders once they have formally contracted with them. So, if you hear nothing, then that means the deal is not completed. If you see nothing then the operation is being worked on that is not available to the public. A public company for its own protection must not show anything but what benefits it shareholders...work in progress is not for public viewing. As I say Relax Max!
The company has told me point blank that this is only, perhaps, a future consideration. I am not saying anything about the system having a problem but merely pointing out that to go from Lab to the field there is in the course of that exercise problems to be solved, nothing to do with whether it works or not. Therefore, all the conversation regarding this site are a waste of time..This is not plug and play...this is real development and scaling up...they'll be fine. Just stop loading up on a bunch of stuff that isn't relevant. If I'm wrong time will tell. Staring at water in a tube is a waste of time. Perhaps, they are giving the "Pig" a rest. or do you guys smell bacon? Just putting some humor into this.
The company has told me point blank that this is only, perhaps, a future consideration. I am not saying anything about the system having a problem but merely pointing out that to go from Lab to the field there is in the course of that exercise problems to be solved, nothing to do with whether it works or not. Therefore, all the conversation regarding this site are a waste of time..This is not plug and play...this is real development and scaling up...they'll be fine. Just stop loading up on a bunch of stuff that isn't relevant. If I'm wrong time will tell. Staring at water in a tube is a waste of time. Perhaps, they are giving the "Pig" a rest. or do you guys smell bacon? Just putting some humor into this.
I already told you guys Palm Springs is out ...if they later select it as a site we'd know, I'd know!Enough said..forget Coachella Valley Area if they have reversed themselves and went to an old fish farm in the Mecca/Tempe area that Jose Sanchez had work at then perhaps that might be a consideration. But everyone is guessing since the company has not cleared this up. The camera is shut off because they are solving some problem obviously, not showcasing it or doing some "secret" thing! As I have always said just wait ans see. everyone is in panic mode.. if they PR'd every moment then they would be accused of Hype! Think about it. I've always thought the Cam was like "Gov't Transparancy" it just isn't practical.
Yes I have been told that it is of consideration long range (perhaps months in the future) and no I am not inferring that there is a problem ...but I merely indicated that if you use the word problem .as normal hurdles to over come, then yes...but never have I said anything major...the system, theory and to ,my knowledge tells me it works but we're scaling up and that there is always something that doesn't work in the field that works in the lab.
I already told you guys Palm Springs is out ...if they later select it as a site we'd know, I'd know!Enough said..forget Coachella Valley Area if they have reversed themselves and went to an old fish farm in the Mecca/Tempe area that Jose Sanchez had worked at then perhaps that might be a consideration. But everyone is guessing since the company has not cleared this up. The camera is shut off because they are solving some problem obviously, not showcasing it or doing some "secret" thing! As I have always said just wait and see. everyone is in panic mode.. if they PR'd every moment then they would be accused of Hype! Think about it. I've always thought the Cam was like "Govt Transparency" it just isn't practical. This isn't a lab it's in the field work. They've scaled up and all sorts of problems could develop, and this does not invalidate the science or the system
Interesting
I wonder how he got that info which was only known by the company and he posted the exact photos that they took when they visited the site. Perhaps he has a better link with them then he or she is letting on. That site is very suitable but the decision with the investor-ships, cost of the operation up front and other considerations has put a priority on other areas of which I personally have no knowledge. At this stage of selection there are many considerations that would not normally play as important as they would under other circumstances;namely, investor's wishes, costs and timing. every aspect is a valuable consideration when there are budget restrictions etc. The decisions, that are made, I assume, are with all those things taken into consideration. The decisions are critical, and lethal if a wrong decision is made right now with a limit on resources. Every critical move must be for the betterment of progress and the out come could be disastrous. There's no going back and apologizing and getting a make over. We've had that already. It must be right on and right the 1st time, otherwise, there may not be another chance. I wouldn't want that on my head, but Dennis has taken on the challenge and I believe he's up to it. I say just give him the chance publicly and only criticize mistakes, not speculation. He's inventing the system as he's going along. Model Planes are toys, although they are flying ships, the scale of a full size Jet-liner is something else. Ask Boeing and Lockheed!
Yeh, they were busier than a cat in room full of rocking chairs.
They were signing this fella up from Mississippi and talking about various stuff which they couldn't share because of confidentiality etc. I haven't seen such optimism since I 1st came there... so much is going on. I think with the increased opportunities and the business of their individual schedules they will not be having the time to chat with me as before. It was sort of like in the waiting room before delivery ..lots of time to spend, but they are giving birth now to new technology and there are a lot of new things to be tried and trialed. Keep in mind they have gone from a laboratory size system to a giant full blown operation. When you change the scale of things, all sorts of new innovations will take place plus it's out side...not a controlled environment. All the claims so far are estimates, to the best of their knowledge, etc. and they can only deliver what is possible. If you didn't bust a knuckle on the 1st time you changed a tire then you don't know what I'm talking about. Like you, I'll sit and wait it out. This is penny stock, not dollar stock, any speculation about big board, reverse mergers,buy-outs, etc is just speculation stuff..why waste the time. The RWE joint-venture is in the same boat. But if you're looking to see big money backers and players ...then this ain't the place.. their technology has to be proven on this scale.
Even Wal-Mart opened one store at a time. I could tell you some funny stuff, but I was held to confidentiality and it probably would come out wrong anyway....but if you ever tried to do plumbing on your own...now make it a foot in diameter ...use you imagination ..and keep the towels ready!..Leave the anxiety to others ...there's enough going on in the world to worry about people honestly trying to do a days work!
I'm Back and I see a lot has happened since my last post.
Some one on my end (my son, tried to register and used my email or IP address and that got me in trouble. Any way I see the camera's down and as usual. So what do you all make of that what is it they don't want us to see. No news isn't good news or is it? Mongolia, I don't think so. They have said several so. California sites, but as we all know that means CEQA and that's a 60-90 process before Planning can give a go ahead and then if no objections 30 days to a permit. Pretty much routine. Not to get anyone's knickers in an uproar, just routine California. Mississippi may get it done faster but those environmental guys are still everywhere and permits on old sites sometime can be tricky.Especially if they either need clean up or are environmentally sensitive. I'm confident that nobody at BEHL will mislead us...since they are taking deposits and negotiating deals they must be giving dates out and as soon as appropriate they'll let us all in on the timing. Summer is over by Labor Day...something in the summer is: sometime in the summer... don't get too antsy folks. Understand, no one in the world has ever done what BEHL is trying to do. Therefore, cut them the slack on dates and timing. Think long range. Everything else is just posturing. As the song goes "Relax Max".
This is penny stock and don't dream about anything that doesn't make "cents"...the dreamers have dollar signs in their eyes...they should be buying GM Now that's going to go like Ford
I'm Back! I too am awaiting specific good news from everyone.
I think I have a new take on this operation. Awaiting confirmation.
Volume is up, activity is up, price is up. So what's to complain about at this point. Unless there is some significant disappointment, enjoy the ride. Investor activity, sites are being selected, operation at the plant is going on, all good stuff. Everything else is speculation. As the song goes "Relax Max" These are serious people and dedicated...give them a chance. I'm sure I'll be in touch in the next day or two. Had a great drive back from my Fruitland, Idaho Orchard...through Lake Tahoe and San Francisco and back ..to Palm Springs..Still in heavy with BEHL! I agree with Clay's Chart! He tells it like it is..if you read the chart (not the crystal ball) you to can see what's happening.
The news should be released about the Farm
I'll say no more! All the investigation relates to commercialization of the BioCentric Closed Loop Proprietary System.
and the Plant 6000sq foot running. I'm out of here to catch a plane.
That's being solved
You're on to it!
I'm out of town until the 19th April Brace yourselves for some great news coming I got a preview and know it's for real!
Dennis is very positive and with Monique restraining his enthusiasm
to make sure all the I's are dotted t's crossed they won't be making false announcements and can be counted on every word...you'll have to read between the lines sometimes they hinted at it in his last announcement. Good luck to us all until mid April
Gophertrader.
Brian (CEO) is in Texas checking out some stuff and he has a home there in Houston.
He'll be back in full swing just after Easter week
Yeh, Very knowledgeable guy. Contact will all the Oil companies and $$$
Very personable and easy to talk with and to.
The team of Monique, Dennis and Brian will make us money they too have a big stake in it and I see the glimmer in Denni's & Brian's eyes $$ this is going to pay off big time!
Us too!
Just remember Dennis has some 50,000,000 shares
muliply that time all these numbers you see I believe he sees $1
by January but there I go overestimating and second guessing the market. But with the proven Farm (which can be duplicated all over the world) this is a easy target for an oil company, electric company (eliminate CO2) and the cosmetic and health markets. Immision creates for polluters I can go on and on.
Stock peaks, merger in the wind, take-over etc.. there are so many possibilities. I'm going to stop writing for today Happy Easter and Passover holidays to you all!
Yeh I let that slip
I've been going there quite often and have told them that I am reporting back to you guys
They appreciated that.
I'm leaving for the holidays and back on the 18th of April
I am in deep in this stock and have a lot of satisfaction visiting them.. This is a very unusual method of tracking my stock.. But I'm retired and got lots of money in this. I really scored in the summer and have stayed with them (after taking my winnings @.15). That was a pump and dump because of Dennis Shen. None of his deals panned out as well as his technology advise.
I went back in and have loaded up. I will tell you guys the truth and won't be timid about speaking out either at the Plant or on line if I'm displeased in anyway. I've gotten to know these guys well enough to speak frankly and have had a go or to at Dennis...he really counted on Dennis Shen and was let down tremendously...he's the type of guy who takes responsibility and owns up to it. One one should beat him up for that.
Monique is a tiger for the company and Dennis...I won't want to be on her bad side...and she speaks out about everything. She's a very capable President.
Yes, they are disinfecting. You should see the Rabbit (red ball) go through the system. When it reaches the end and it triggers the system and reverses the flow.
They are generating the cultures in their lab set-up and because the sun light in Santa Ana is still limited they will at 1st have slow growth but it is such a controlled environment you'd be amazed.
I, too, have asked about the timing and Dennis, in nonchalant manner," said "I'd rather get it right the 1st time" he said "While the wiggett is cooking I can continue lining up those investors for the farm and the company."
They are all working flat out. I'm grateful for the time they give me.
From what I can gather they have more investors than farms in the works.
Yes Dennis is concentrating on the Omega3 strain of Algae which is the shortest distance from start to cash!
They have some 20 or so investor groups who are urgently wanting to be the 1st in. They are being picky who they select..each investor group represents opportunity for future growth in the direction the company wants to go.
With Jose Sanchez and Helmut Gass comng on board next week..the will start qualifying the site for the 1st farm
Pictures
I went I saw I met with BEHL Yesterday
I thought this would be helpful
http://tinypic.com/useralbum.php?ua=tyiWP1xQg285%2FgDGjcrJrg%3D%3D
The amount of engineering that goes into one of these systems is mind boggling!
The Siemens monitoring system does everything but a Colonoscopy!
This is the 4th Photo today running fully
http://tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=7vBB%2FOG64CqrViwkc8fhXoh4l5k2TGxc
Here's the latest from BEHL
4th Photo Running you can see the Green
http://tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=7vBB%2FOG64CqrViwkc8fhXoh4l5k2TGxc
It's filling in the gaps small volume this is good our new support is establishing
The alge has to germinate "grow" be fore inoculation
The strain of Algae is sanitized before entry into the system naturally with nutrients and or additives there can be contaminants but the process of extraction and drying and dehumidifying the harvest all those are minimized.
When we grow algae, the strain we have picked is for omega 3 with EPA
Realistically, we probably won't inoculate for 3 to 4 weeks...
And won't harvest for 60 days...keep in mind there is 7000 gallons of water you are looking at...
I think the picture shows Richard Armstrong President of Renewed World Energies turning on the system (can't say for sure never saw him at this angle...if you get my drift!)
They are investors only The full responsibility of the operation is a BEHL program. They will only lease their proprietary equipment and manage the farms and product; either process it or dehydrate it and or send it to be refined to end users on the east coast. That is still to be decided. Customers will take all they produce in any form.
They have a 1/2 dozen investors, I believe, who have $2m each for each 11 acre section already and back orders for product approaching $10m No, no word that I have heard regarding the Black Mountain Deal. There is a hope that through product development at the plant they may avoid this money and be able to Factor their product orders...this is my supposition not theirs Keep in mind when I speak with them on my visits, I'm a shareholder , and they don't want to be giving me info they are not sharing with the public. So if I ask specifics they have to be able to couch their answers so as not tobe misquoted or misleading.
Got to grow give it a day or two
Dennis is working with Eco and business friendly counties and governments at present. he's been invited by two to set up the "Farm" and will decide shortly.
Turning it on
Dennis said: "With a tear in my eye..I'm turning it on !"
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=ei2ged&s=5
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=107qbrs&s=5
Half full Dennis is delirious and says it will be fully functional tomorrow No leaks no valve problems and it will work! These guys have been working 16 hour days for three days
I'm not very good at this but will get better by tomorrow
try the website and see if you guys see all three pictures
http://tinypic.com/useralbum.php?ua=tyiWP1xQg285%2FgDGjcrJrg%3D%3D