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You took a big hit on the ETFs today?
They're more like experts on how to conceal NSS, but I don't think they'll tell you that.
Don't forget folks, we control the shares. The only way we lose is if we let go of these. This has been our ace in the hole since day one and they won't stop attacking until they get them back.
If the bashing, libel, audit, and the dividends from odd sources aren't enough proof that the NSS position is massive (hundreds of millions between the four stocks), then the naked short sellers are doing their job by jading the facts.
If the constant support in the Den isn't enough to convince you we are here together, then the naked short sellers are preying on your emotions.
If the Monkinars, meeting Jerry in person, and seeing his skills in action aren't enough to convince you of his integrity and capability, then you need to take a look in the mirror and see exactly what standard you are holding him too.
Anyone who knows me knows I've never told anyone to buy into an FLD. I've always believed in the concept, but having never been through this before, it would be irresponsible of me to be giving recommendations. I've only asked and answered questions when I could, and researched when I couldn't.
I am putting my weight behind my conviction now: hold your shares tight. No matter what happens, this is our biggest asset. We have it, and they want it back. They need it back. The attacks will continue to cut deeper, the facts will get buried further, the lies will get worse. We hold our shares tight and we will not be swept under the rug.
In the meantime, we must work together, as a family, to be successful in daytrading ETFs, swing trades, Forex, and anything we need to to make ends meet and generate revenue now. If I've made one mistake, which I think is common among most people here, I looked at the FLDs as a start of a new life and not today. We have been taught the skills and it is time to lean on each other to utilize them now, not later. One day at a time we must maintain focus, grow our finances, develop our discipline.
We are not here to do this alone. With our combined efforts, we can not fail.
Viacom, VIA, just broke its 52 week high and matched its three year high thanks to Jersey Shore. I think those people are well deserved of their $10,000 per episode.
The naked shorts are going to have to do a better job of trying to pry our shares away from us. I hear through the grapevine that EIGH is going to be met by a wave of buying pressure the first day off of suspension. That could be as little as a week from now.
The plan is still intact. The ones on the other boards are trying to scare you out of your shares. If you don't sell them, they don't win. We've seen it through this far, it makes no sense to back down now. I for one want to be part of something that exposes the rampant abusive NSS that plagues the OTC. I want to fight back against the people who steal people's money with no remorse. I want to give them a reason to stop.
And if they don't stop, we'll march from stock to stock and do it over and over again. At the end of the day, we have the power, and they have a choice to make.
With EIGH suspended, the MMs can't pass shares around to hide FTDs. Does that mean that the FTD clock is ticking +1 each day?
Scan results from last week with percentage up from day it showed up on scan.
ATML:
Day 0 - $8.86
Day 1 - $8.82, -0.45%
Day 2 - $8.76, -1.13%
Day 3 - $8.85, -0.11%
Day 4 - $8.93, 0.79%
Day 5 - $10.28, 16.03%
Current - $10.46, up 18.06%
NGD:
Day 0 - $7.61
Day 1 - $7.75, 1.84%
Day 2 - $7.85, 3.15%
Day 3 - $8.31, 9.20%
Day 4 - $8.23, 8.15%
Current - $8.80, up 15.64%
UXG:
Day 0 - $5.35
Day 1 - $5.26, -1.68%
Day 2 - $5.77, 7.85%
Day 3 - $5.99, 11.96%
Current - $6.32, up 18.13%
GSS:
Day 0 - $5.12
Day 1 - $5.35, 4.49%
Day 2 - $5.68, 10.94%
Day 3 - $5.78, 12.89%
Current - $5.96, up 16.41%
But didn't they account for the entire O/S in that newsletter? The total is balanced at the bottom.
It looks like selling might be a problem. I just looked at the EIGH newsletter under the Scottrade accounts, and I can not find my account total on there. So according to the audit, my shares don't exist. Yet according to my Scottrade account, they do.
I also checked under E*Trade and my shares are not listed there either!
How on earth do the transactions in the newsletter balance correctly when it doesn't add in my shares? How will I sell them now if they don't exist?
Oh yeah, I know what you meant. :)
I'm not wondering why. It's pretty clear. Someone needs our shares very badly. And when the naked shorting stops, and rules of supply and demand return, we can ask for much much more than we thought before. After all these delays and frustrations, it really should cost them more. My starting point is now $12.50 per share.
Seems pretty obvious to me: they still haven't gotten what they want.
Bashers worked pretty hard all weekend. Seems like a lot of overtime for a couple worthless stocks and stubborn people doesn't it?
A good resource to look at the facts only:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=17872
No idea. Not sure anyone does right now. I've even wondering how big this suspension could possibly be. All that will happen is they get some sort of fine or restrictions and what not. The company isn't going to be completely shut down. That means they still have their $40 million windfall, still reducing to 20 million float, still planning to carry forth with a merger, and still have a gigantic naked short position. All this does is delay the inevitable for the shorters out there.
Good post about the lack of volume indicator in Forex:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=56381632
He is pretty awesome. For better or for worse, I'm not going anywhere. Seeing it through until the end. I'm not selling my shares at any price that isn't determined by me. If their goal is to get their shares back, then they are failing miserably. If anything, the step up in personal attacks and false information only proves that someone feels increasingly threatened by our resolve.
Take all the pumping, bashing, etc. out of the equation, and if you just look at motive, the entire thing is crystal clear.
Anyone who has met Jerry knows he has no motive to run any scam. He's too skilled and too selfless.
Now look at the people trying to take him down. They have motive. We have shares they need. Hundreds of millions of them. They want them back.
They never produce evidence on anything, and only half a document that's blacked out and photographed with a cell phone. Why is it that this is surfacing right at this exact moment? The supposed document was eight months ago!
How come they are descending on us from every direction at the exact same time on multiple stocks? And how come, out of all the scams in the pink sheets, they only attack the ones where the Accum/Dist line is going up while the price is going down?
It's crystal clear to me what's going on.
Naked short selling dominates the OTC, and we're about to blow the lid off the entire thing. Of course they are going to throw everything they can at us.
If we hold tight and let this run its course, the secret will be exposed.
If a squeeze happens and we sell our shares at prices we dictate, the secret will be exposed.
If we sell our shares back at the prices offered right now, the secret will stay intact and future investors will continue to be ravaged by these people.
This is not a market anymore, this is a war.
That's an interesting thought. As rampant as naked short selling is, it would be suicide to investigate it directly. However, this is clearly not going to defuse itself so they had no choice. That's assuming they are even fractionally adept at their job.
So let's see...they attacked EIGH which they are heavily short on. Then they attacked CDIV which they are heavily short on as well. Can anyone take a guess which company is going to get attacked next?
Nice trading station BT! That looks like a rush to sit in front of.
Point considered, but you don't pull out the biggest guns to defeat an 18" tall monkey.
We're now in a fight that is much bigger than any of us. No one saw it escalating to this point, but it did.
This is no longer about investing in a growing company. This is no longer about the huge naked short position. This is no longer about riding the storm out.
This isn't even about weathering a massive assault by some of the most powerful, unconscionable, and corrupt forces no one has heard of.
This is about being on the brink of exposing one of the largest systemic financial frauds in history. It's about highly organized and well-connected shadow groups that have been manipulating the rules to their favor for decades. A group who has stolen billions of dollars from investors across the globe, both big and small. A group that strikes fear into both investors and governments alike.
We didn't ask for much. Leave our money alone and let the fundamentals determine the value of our positions. But no, that wasn't good enough. Not only could they not leave us alone, they escalated it. They no longer threaten just our bank accounts. Behind the veil of online anonymity, they resorted to threatening our reputations, friends, family, and anything else that might silence us.
You know what? It's not going to work, not for me. They took our money. They took our board. They took our fun. But they didn't take us. They didn't take the bonds we've created. They didn't take our shares.
And they didn't take our story. Investments come and go, but a story lives forever.
They brought this war to my doorstep and I intend to fight with everything I have. If I go down, I'm not going down quietly. The story will not be squashed. It might be ignored by the regulators charged with protecting us, but not by media outlets, not by past victims, and not by future victims.
We are intelligent, educated, and passionate, and this has made us more than a blip on their radar. We have nothing left to lose by rallying the troops and telling our story to anyone who will listen.
We back down now, we lose. Not just for us, but for everyone who comes after us as well.
Yes, it's nice. I'm glad to see it calmer here, and I'm glad to see attention is called to the naked short issue. Not exactly the way I had envisioned it, but it can most certainly be the catalyst we need to expose the extent of the fraud hedge funds and market makers have committed on just this stock alone.
Once the suspension is lifted, maybe we'll get another one immediately after so they can investigate the naked short numbers from the audit.
Yes, it will. EIGH has been preparing for a dogfight. Look at their financials. GAAP standard and relatively transparent compared to other pink sheet stocks. It shouldn't take long for the SEC to comb through the info they need.
All I know is that the naked short selling exists, and it isn't just small. It's to the tune of hundreds of millions on just one stock. We're talking billions upon billions through the whole OTC.
The opposition isn't concerned about a single short squeeze. They happen all the time without a lot of fanfare. They are concerned about a blueprint developing to combat naked short selling.
Whether EIGH is innocent or guilty on the dividend? No idea. But no doubt that the numbers are out, from official sources, and the naked shorting claims are absolutely substantiated.
This morning, they won a battle to suppress buying, but this is a war, and we're here to protect our territory.
I'm not really worried about. It doesn't change the fact that the naked short count is still astronomically high.
If anyone is interested, Q which is Qwest Communications, is running a nice tight uptrend. Might be a good swing or medium-term hold.
It makes no difference where the price is when we launch. My shares still start for sale at the same bargain price of $15.50.
Not as spectacular as that picture!
You have to PM me Nitwit. That's the only rule.
If anyone wants it, you can PM me.
You guys seen the 8000inc newsletter?
The bashers lost credibility with one statement: they say naked short selling does not exist.
Anyone with one iota of experience in the market knows full well abusive naked short selling exists beyond the legal limitations of it. To deny this throws every following argument out the window.
Debating the merits of a company, or whether it is being abusively naked shorted, or debating the full extent of naked short selling is one thing. But to say it absolutely does not exist shows they are either terribly new to the industry or they have a deceitful agenda.
Here's a Bloomberg special on naked short selling. If there isn't an NSS problem, then I guess Bloomberg isn't a credible source.
Good news is they have ammo.
If anyone wants to talk about EIGH or any other FLDs, you should discuss them over here. Most of the bashers are banned and thus won't waste our valuable time. I'm always available on this board.