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All I know is, If Em dosen't make money
Someones gonna have to leave the country quickly. Don't even think the witness protection plan can help that poor soul.
"make the penetration into the retail consumer market a smooth entrance".
Really ? So WTF has been going on for the last few years telling shareholders about selling to national retail chain stores. Isn't that Retail? Why did I commission an army of Lawn Chair Scouts to sit and wait in Drug Store parking lots for deliveries? (maybe)
My happy horse crap is no worse than yours. At least I don't cost people money.
How can anyone stand to read this !!!!!
Ever wonder why almost every PR talks about
great things to come in the near future with so much potential. I cannot think of any PRs that inform us of a true success story of some substance, where Identa knocked one out of the ballpark and made a boatload of money. (IMO) Its always tomorrow that will bring prosperity to all. Its just amazing how many times this pitch gets played.
Take your fish oil pills folks. Those who forget the past are destined to make the same mistakes in the future ... or something like that.
Vits
What a world...What a world
And somehow the IDTA stockholders are the ones that get the bad reputation.
I have yet to receive a reply as well.
If his optimism and expectations are truly sincere, I would have to say it is a Looooong stretch at best. Making a statement about $35M in sales and then disappearing is not very cool. I would sure like to learn more about this great opportunity.
Just my opinion
Vits
To go from $206K in year 2011 to $35,000,000 in sales for 2012 would be such a nice surprise! That should bring the PPS to at least .02, (IMO) and then I'm so outta here.
Vits
Disclaimer: The above message is based on BB rumor. I had nothing to do with it.
"I was at the factory and saw a package with a million ampoules except what they already have and that means a lot of orders"
fadi ... it may be a translation issue, but a package containing a million of anything would have to be very large. I assume the ampoules you are talking about were small samples of product. can you elaborate a little bit as to why you believe the box of samples means lots of orders are expected?
Thanks
Vits
When have they not been Bullish Em
How many times can one buy into the hype and BS? Thats why I am surprised that you are taking any of this serious. Where is this alleged PR about the implied 36,000 schools just waiting to buy $1,000 of product each from Identa. Profits in the $20 million dollar range ! Is this based on any fact? This is like watching a rerun of Attack of the Killer Tomatoes, its just a bad movie thats hard to watch. IMO
Good Luck anyway
Vits
Smells a little fishy to me.
We need a Sniffer !
Bad joke I'm know, but I'm full of those! Don't have an answer to your questions either. All I can add is someone manipulates the share price late afternoon every day (IMO). Sure gives one that warm feeling of honesty and integrity, dosen't it.
Vits
Thats exactly why IDTA needs the new sniffer technology !
fadi, its just that the let downs to date have been overwhelming. I would like nothing more than to believe something good is on the way, but I'm not so sure anything good has ever happened here, except for a few who made money by flipping, rather than the progress and accomplishments of Identa. I would be interested in your thoughts about this.
Vits
Ya know something RichieBoy
I'm seeing that some financials can be found, but its a little like a scavenger hunt to get them. Almost always individual sales are expressed in US dollars, but the more meaningful annual sales numbers are expressed in shekels. Without doing the conversion, it appears to be a nicer number for those who are not used to this currency. The folks in Israel would see this right away, but we have to scratch our head a little first. Although its water under the bridge already, I would like to know why sales of $500K in 2008 have dramatically reduced in later years. Just seems odd for a company that has been touting momentum and new contracts year after year, experienced such a huge decline in sales for 2010 and 2011. Year 2009 is still a mystery, unless someone out there can GPS that number from someplace.
Just my .02 ...... or is that the PPS we were once told we can expect to see someday !
Vits
From the 12/19/11 PR
The financial report for 2011 (still two weeks to go) will be released as soon we have the audited report after the beginning of 2012.
It will be released no later than the period requested by the stock market.
In 2010 IDenta has sold products (income) for a total of 466,017 Israel shekels.
(posters note: I believe that would be approx $126K US)
In 2011 (with two weeks remaining until the end of the year) IDenta has already sold products for a total of 775,235 Israeli shekels, a 66% increase from the previous year.
Result: TBD
What about GSA government contracts in the USA !
Predictions on a public conference call that we will be at .02, 5 years ago.
Self proclaimed World Leader status when they pulled in approx $200K in 2011. You can't even buy a broken down ramshackled home in my town for that kind of money.
A growing sales force in several countries. I haven't heard of there being any more than 8 people employed.
Huge increases in outstanding shares, with no advance notice for the shareholders. We found out from posters on a BB.
Wolf ... being positive is a great thing
and I admire you for that. Some of the folks here really are not the nay sayers you think they are. If you were to look at some of the posts from years back, you would be shocked to see how positive and encouraging the posts were. What happened over time, was most eloquently put by George W Bush.
"Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice, we don't get fooled again"
Good Luck and Good things for all of us ! And I mean that.
Vits
Even remember a heated exchange (which I try to avoid) with a character named Von Cougar, where I came to Identas defense.
Id apologize to the guy, except I'm still mad at him from 4 years ago!
And ya know what makes it worse
We (I) never looked at this Company as a Pinky Scam. I had so much admiration for what they do to make the world a better place, I was one of their biggest supporters. Enough to tell Family members to buy into this fantastic company. I think this is part of the reason why at times we can be so critical. We gave them our respect and treated them like a blue chip investment. We were never given the same respect back, other than being ordained as the The Loyal Longs. I'd like to know what happened to the Loyal Company.
Vits
All valid points Wolfer.
I never questioned the integrity of the product. I do question the spin we get regarding how well the company has done over time, because people will make buying decisions based on that information.
Time will tell, so lets see where we are in a few weeks.
Vits
That's a fact Jack."
Still sounds better than "Thats a Fact Vits"
Let the Rumors Fly ! I have decided to become the self appointed Czar and tracker of the Rumors. Make no mistake about it, I want to make money here. If I can break even I will do Cart Wheels on 7th Ave in the middle of Times Square. The way I see it, if your new here, you will not understand how many times we have been fed Belogna. If you are one of the Loyal Longs, most can't sit down anymore because of all the times we have been (never mind). (IMO) So here we go !
Rumor # 1: (Date 2/09/12) In a few weeks something positive is going to happen that may potentially bring the PPS as high as .003.
Todays PPS: .0011
Result: TBD
Disclaimer: The above is to be considered Rumor and here-say and scuttle but only. The only purpose of the newly self appointed Rumor Czar is to track and report back to the BB on Rumor vs Result.
May all your Rumors come True !
Czar Vits
No Arguments from me.
I get to ride the same gravy train as you if the thing ever gets up enough steam to get out of its own way. just wanted to let you know that many here you may consider Bashers are not folks trying to drive the PPS down to make a killing. They are just pissed off and tired of the same old stories of profits to be made in a matter of weeks. Weve been traveling on Rams Horn Road for 8 years. Even the Garman can't figure out where we are and where were going. (IMO of course)
All the best ! If you are correct, we all win !
Vits
Em, oddly enough, the Lawn Chair Scouts moved on to become Congressmen and Senators in Wash DC. As you can see they are doing a Fantastic job ! By learning how to be infinately patient, they are now experts in getting nothing done, which makes for an excellent politician. Should this Dog show some sign of life, I will attempt to round up the old Lawn Chair crew and convince them to wait just a little bit longer !!!!
All the Best Em. I hope you are getting good information !!! Because I sure feel sorry for the poor Basta!d if hes feeding you bad info. I already have seen that Hell hath no fury like a scorned Em.
Good Luck ! Really !
Vits
Wolfer, the Bashers you are talking about were once the Loyal Longs. We are Kinda like the Identa Darth Vaders. You seem to be fairly new here, unless you recently had a different ID. At the risk of repeating what has been rehashed many times, this sort of roller coaster gambling on a hunch stuff is nothing new here, and many have been toasted on this kind of fuzzy hype. What you are hearing is the rants of the posting wounded, probably just hanging around if only to recoup a fraction of what was lost. I can't say what your connection is to this company, but IMO at least 50% of the folks here have at various times been led down Primrose Path, and are not happy about it. I know what you are gonna say, "Get over it JohnnyV and move on, its a Pink Stock for Heavens sake". And I probably should !!!, but its just too much fun hanging around here being a nuisance. I figure I earned the privilege for the $$$ I lost. Just a little insight into why the flash mob seems to appear when the "Were all gonna get rich stuff" rears its unreliable head. I do wish you the best, because that means I can then sell my shares, and invest in something rock solid like CMKX. An up and coming Diamond mine(IMO).
Vits
Emily, Whats the Deal ?
I know thats a loaded question, but what has turned you so Bullish on Identa?
Thanks
Vits
So I guess you are saying
We are soon to go the way of the 8 Track player.
I loved mine in my 1971 Pinto, except when it ate my tapes.
Go Identa !!!! We need a sniffer !!! And not what the dogs do !!!!
LOL !!! I think the New Plant
was on that Ship !!! IMO of course
I think if IDTA would just give a few reasons why some of the business plans didn't pan out, it might go a long way towards calming down many on this board. Sadly, it is the once revered Loyal Longs that have become soured. Ultimately .... The company needs to increase sales to a point where folks are once again interested in investing in a company that looks like it has money making potential. Eight years is a long time to be a start up. Lets hope that the first 3 weeks of 2012 are an indication as to how the company can do this year. The only way we will know is if we see follow up sales figures that show 2012 to be a healthy year. If we hear nothing more on such progress, you don't have to be too bright to know the numbers just aren't there.
Go Identa !!!! 1 st quarter sales results for 2012 would sure be nice !!!!!!!!!! Just putting in my order now. There were no takers on the Johnnyvits report, although the parakeet loved it. !!!!
an obscure marketer in Long Island
YES ... Now were getting some place. Long Island to the rescue, My stomping grounds ! Almost home of the NY Giants (who play in NJ)
Go Identa !!!! Go Giants !!!!
Keep your eyes open for the Identa Super Bowl commercials this year.
Madonna will be selling kits at half time, previewing the new Cone shaped Blister wrap package (IMO)
Vits
I think it means you were Lucky !
Just kidding. Hope your right on your hunch Em. Seems like you have traveled down this path before tho.
JV
if someone finds a baggie filled with something that looks and smells like marijuana, they are going to run down to CVS to buy a test.
If your of Italian decent, you break out the Wooden Spoon !!!!!
Just very Curious
Em wanting to buy more Identa is like Sean Hannity wanting to vote for Barack Obama.
What Gives?
But why do you think that ?
You think something is about to drive up the PPS? CE shows no signs of leaving anytime soon.
So here is how the puzzle is coming together, with revenue based on little fragmented pieces of information provided from time to time:
Prior to 2008: Who Knows ?
2008: $500K plus
2009: Who knows?
2010: Lets say approximately $125K. Down 70% from 2008
2011: Approximately $206K Up approx 65-66% from 2010
2012: Projected at $1,290K $74K/3 weeks x 52 weeks = $1,290K
There you go folks ... a full accounting from someone who hasn't a clue whats really going on. Had IDTA given us financials like they said they would in previously distributed PRs, we wouldn't need to play guessing games. DISCLAIMER: All the above financial information should not be considered valid in any way. This is my patch work accounting based on financial crumbs provided in current and previous PRs.
Lets just call this The JohnnyVits report. Excellent for lining bird cages and can also be used as a we we pad.
Vits
I went to Identa.biz to look for any revenue numbers I could find.
Its functional, except the last PR posted is dated May 21, 2004, and the tab that says "STOCKS" dosen't work.
Something dosen't smell right folks (IMO)
Vits
Heres whats confusing me
Which dosen't take much. I seem to recall in some fuzzy PR, or maybe I just dreamed it up, that sales were approaching $500K plus. All this $200K stuff is my guess work based on this one statement Texark re-posted from a PR:
"In 2011 (with two weeks remaining until the end of the year) IDenta has already sold products for a total of 775,235 Israeli shekels, a 66% increase from the previous year."
775000 shekels = 206,692.5000 US dollars
Personally I can't believe these numbers myself. $200K might just about pay the phone bill and maybe cover a few pizza deliveries. What about YS and Glatsteins salary?
I will look for some PR making refrence to better sales than this, but I'm not gonna look too hard :< )
Vits
Whats up Emily?
Care to Share?
RichieBoy, a $100K
won't even buy you a nice American luxury car. If my back azz convoluted numbers are even horseshoes close to being somewhat correct, Its time to set up the lemonade stand to supplement the business. IMO
Go Identa !!!! Time to advertise on Craigs List.
Agree ... but seriously
If expenses continue to outweigh revenue, your in trouble. It was my opinion that the CEO is probably making a good buck, but I'm starting to even doubt that.(IMO) If pre 2010 annual sales were around $100K, thats not very good. Probably explains why they had to keep issuing and selling stock shares, maybe just to stay alive. All this is my conjecture and I have no facts to substantiate anything. Just seems that by taking little bits of financial information released and extrapolating backwards in time, it appears that sales were anemic.
Vits
Your not being dense Tex
I can't read. I mistakingly thought you were saying Identa sold that much in 3 weeks, however you were trying to say they sold that much in total for 2011. My mistake. I think the light bulb went on in a later post that I made. Lets hope sales pick up this year. No need to tell anyone here how expensive things are these days. $200K just dosen't seem like enough cash to run even a small business.
Vits
Ya know something, its starting to sink in
If this is true for 2011 and not a joke: 775000 shekels = 206,692.5000 US dollars
And $206,692 is 66% better than year 2010
Then revenue for 2010 was $124,513.
Woooooo Hoooooo !!!!!!!!!!!
No wonder we are all poor !
Its pathetic that we must take pot shot guesses at trying to figure out how much money this company makes. I hope I'm wrong!!!!! More money can be made selling Lemonade.
Vits
Can you imagine what the revenue was like 5 or 8 years ago as a start up! Think about all those PRs telling us how healthy the company was, when many of us were really big on the company and the stocks potential. No wonder we were never shown financials. I do hope you are right and the revenue grows exponentially ... if not, someones nose is going to grow even faster.
Vits
Actually I thought they did better than 200K last year
But its hard to tell because of the fragmented way this type of information is fed to us. My take on Financials, you will probably find more meaningful financial information off the IHOP menu than what we are given. We are being played for fools now IMO. We are actually growing old together here, and not making a dime. Just my 2 cents, which is just about what my holdings are now worth.
Vits