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I could care less as long as they put out a sexy PR tomorrow. I already know what the headline will be "3rd quater sales up 20,000% over 2008!"
For got to add this into my last post!
This will really put it in perspective!
Their revenue for the 3rd quater 2009 was: $896,404
Their revenue for the 3rd quater 2008 was: $4000
I can see the headline for the PR first thing tomorrow morning!
We saw a revenue increase of over 20,000% for the 3rd quater 2009 over the 3rd quater 2008!
Here are the KEY NUMBERS
I totally agree.
MM control stikes again, trying to limit our possiable big run tomorrow. Just take a look at the last 15 or so trades of the day.
Out of those, we had all buys, 1 sale order. Yes thats right, ONLY 1 sell order.
The Buys equaed 108,500! The sales equaled 13,500. Thats a pretty amazing difference there. And we kept going down......
I wish the MMs could get busted for the SEC for BS like this!
yea hopefully that wont be the case
hope to god its pre-market, and if the numbers are good which they should be, then tomorrow will be a great day. If its AH its going to be a long long LONG weekend!
We were talking about the RSI, as that points to it being over sold for the day......
Which if you look at what has happened in the last few hours, you could see this quite clearly. As we are down a good bit, and now only slightly up for the day. I expect a nice little rally in the last few min though, if the MMs allow it.
it does appear to be oversold, trades starting to pick up again, hopefully we can finish strong, close to the HOD would be nice :)
Every think about checking the recent press releases? It takes no more than 30 secs MAX to find the date. But since you can't do that I will tell you, they will be out either today, the 19th, or on friday.
That all depends if the MMs try to hold us down and control it or if they let it run most of the day naturally like today.
Oh man this is good, anyone check out the trades on this right before close? We had 9 sell orders in a row, and the price went from .05 to .055. Yes thats right, we went UP 1/2 a penny on 9 sell orders and ZERO buys.
LOL it's been years since I have seen MM control this obvious and this out of control. Truely sickening! On the plus side we did finish up almost 50% on the day close to the HOD :P
Looks like the MMs fell asleep for a few hours today, it's amazing how much buy support this stock has. We still have 2 to 1 buy orders like we have had all day long. Only difference? MM control is back into effect and they are now droping us 15% on tiny 7500 share sell orders. Yet it's no longer going up when we have 10 times that much in buy orders.
Looks like they are taking this back to the stables, its over for today, hopefully we will finish above .05, but even thats looking doubtful at this point. Wish the damn SEC would do something about the scams the MMs do on stocks like this.
It's shocking to see how quickly we went up almost 60% today on low volume when the MMs weren't controlling this and were letting this trade naturally.
Oh god here comes the control again, we went from .0587 to .053 on one trade of only 7500 shares. Nice. God I hate the MMs!
I said "if good" as a just in case, so people can't cliam I said they were going to be awesome if they do happen to come out bad.
Of coruse I expect them to be amazing, as I have stated for weeks on here. But wont know for sure till they come out. This is going to be a fun end to this week :D
Man I was hoping this would happen before the earnings hit, a nice run up before the 10Q hits, all this means is that we all stand to make far more money when the 10Q does hit now. Hopefully this will get to around 7 or so, that would be a nice area to level off at before the 10Q.
What I also love is how this perfectly shows how bad the MMs were controlling this. We had days were we had 2:1, 3:1 and even as high as 7:1 buy to sell ratios. All of those days we were down for the day, in some cases down as much as 3 cents.
Today proves how bad the MMs were controlling this stock. We have low volume, only 800k traded so far, and only a 2:1 buy ratio and we are up almost 60% and 3 cents. It's sooooo sad the MMs have held this down so low for so low, they obviouslly wanted to accumalate shares for them selfs in the cheap. But thankfully they are letting this run now.
If we get can up to 7 to 10 cents before the 10Q, we will be in great shape for this to really expload.
Oh hey, where did Captin Jim and Springroll go? LOL
You don't have to worry about the MMs, once the PR and 10Q hit, assuming they are good of course, the volume will be through the roof, 5 to 10 million shares easy. The MMs can only control this stock when the volume is low, once it's start running theres nothing they can do but sit back and watch at that point. It doesn't matter how many shares they bought in the cheap.
It technically could come out tomorrow, but given their history the past two years it will be out thrusday or friday.
hahaha!
Go figure on a day that had 2 to 1 sells we go up almost a full penny lol. Really strong buy support at the end of the day though, looks like some people wanting to jump on-board before the 3rd Q.
Yea, as you stated, the main reason the Q2 earnings were way off and had such high operating expenses is due to them assuming 500k in CSD debt.
I don't belive the Luxor deal will have any impacts on the 3rd quater earnings though as far as operating expenses go. Going to be interesting to see, but I feel very good about these numbers. Going to keep my fingers crossed till they come out though.
What are you, 12? Is this the first message boards you have ever been on? People all the time make BS posts about their "friends" who work at IR and so on. It has nothing to do with us being "Jealous" about anything. And it doens't have anything to do with us being "little" investors either lol. I probabbly have more money invested in this than you do, and I know for a fact others here do. So just knock off the cheap bashes ok?
Get it through your head, you posted something that you cliamed to be a "fact". We have no way to actually verifiy anything you are saying. So theres no point to actually post it because no one is going to belive you simply because we have no way to verify it. I can tell people all day long that my buddy has told me the earnings are going to be awesome and that IR thinks this stock is going to shoot up 1000%, but that doesn't make it true or mean that its going to happen.
On top of that, you told us the other day your "buddy" at Big Apple said the earnings were going to come out that day, and guess what, they didn't! Wow what a surpise, your "buddy" has no idea what hes talking about. You have ZERO credibilty here, and posting crap like this that no one can verify and then getting upset like a little kid when people call you on it isn't helping.
All one needs to do is look a the trades to see the crazy manipulation going on here. It's been a LONG time since I have even seen a pink or otc stock be controlled this obviously. It's quite sickning.
We had a 1000 share sell order drop it from .031 to .030. And a 100,000 buy order right after that didn't move the price up even .0001 of a penny. So so so sad.
Wow really? Your sisters, bothers, friends, neighboor, uncal told you what? 400% ? Sweeeeet!
Look buddy, please stop posting this bs on here ok? It's extremely unlikely you know anyone from big apple. If your "buddy" did tell you anything, hes breaking the law by giving out inside information! Yes, even if they will be making this info public in a few days, it's still not out yet, and leaking it early which is what he would be doing is completely illegal.
On top of that, we have no way to verify anything you are saying, so since we can prove or disprove it, it's completely pointless to post it here as no one is going to belive you.
Heres a few reasons why I think you might be wrong.
They did extremely low revenue last year for the same quater. If you take the earnings from ARTS only for this quater, they will be up like 2000% over last year. Then you are going to need to factor in the earnings from CSD, which in 2008 which was one of the worst years on record as far as the economy goes, they still did 3.3 million in sales. So lets get assume they did 3 million this year in sales. You add that revenue to the mix and suddenly your going to be talking about a 10,000 % increase in revenue/sales.
Regardless if they actually net a profit for this quater or not, thats going to look damn impressive in a PR, and you know these guys will spin it into a really sexy looking PR.
Now heres something else to think about and consider as well. They bought Luxor, though that was technically in the 4th quater, so any profits or revenue wont show up till the 4th quater earnings. BUT, they have roughly 10 million in assets that ARTS can and likely will add to their bottom line. They did the exact same thing in the first quater where they revalued their assets and found out that they underestamated them the last time they did it by a large margin. What they did was add the newly valued assets (which i think they came out to be something like 2 million) into their profits for that quater. Even though they technically were not sales, they ended up giving them a "profit" for that quater and it looked great on paper.
It would not surpise me if they did that again with the Luxor assets. So heres the recap:
You got ARTSes own numbers that should be many times higher in terms of revenue over the same quater last year, which will create a massive spread and a massive increase over last year.
You got CSD and it's sales which could be any where from 3 million to 5 million which they will also factor into the revenue for the 3rd quater. This will create a even more massive spread over last years numbers and look incredably impressive.
Then you got the possiablity of them adding the 10 million in assets from Luxor to this earnings report too.
All in all they should show a MASSIVE increase in sales and revenue. And no, it's not out of this world to belive they might actually show a really nice profit for this quater too. Now of course it might not be a "true" profit as they will mostlikely be adding in the assets of luxor as a profit, but still, it will look stunning in the PR and the 10Q.
I think this will be more than enough to cause this to shoot up nicely, it could even take off and run way up. But that being said, this is just one of many possiablities. While I do think this possiablity that I stated here has the best chance of coming true, there are so many factors involed its anyones guess. But, even if this does play out like I stated above, I still have no idea how high this stock could go on news like that.
In anycase, I feel extremely good about whats to come, and you guys should too!
Based on the extremely low volume traded so far since the R/S, I expect the float to be quite low. Yet another good thing this company has going for it.
There is no "its not coming out", this company has ALWAYS filed with the SEC on time, either by the standard deadline or by the extended deadline. The company HAS to file with the SEC. Not filing is simply not an option.
There is a 100% ZERO chance of it not coming out. As I have stated many times before, I was not expecting it to come out today, why you ask? Because the past 2 years they have filed for an extention every time. And have made the extended deadline every time. They have always released it on the 19th or 20th. Simple as that. And thats exactly when I expect it to come this week, as I have been saying for over a week now. There is nothing that would indecate anything different.
Ditto, and yea, its going to be red simple due to no volume and MM control. We gotta get volume and the only way to do that is from the 10Q. Everyone is clearly waiting for that before jumping in.
Yea it does, I am right about this, but man I hope I am dead wrong about when they release it. Would be really nice if they release it tomorrow or wed at the latest. The longer the volume stays at these low levels, the more the MMs will be able to control it, and the lower we go. It's quite clear everyone is waiting for the numbers so unless some other PR hits first, which I am not expecting, then the volume will going to be non-existant.
There hasn't been one day of "mid" volume so far. It's all been extremely low since the R/S. That tells me one thing, everyone is waiting for the 10Q, which could be a good thing if the numbers are good.
Also, the MMs are keeping us down bad. I mean just look at the last few trades...
We had a 43k share trade that didn't make the price go up one tenth of a cent. And then we had a $600 buck, 20k share sell that took us down almost 1/2 a penny.....
The MMs are scaming us bad, which of coruse they can do and get away with due to the extremely low volume.
We had a total of 4 whole trades before 3:30 for a total of roughly 45k in volume.
Wow what a "surpise" they did EXACTLY what I said they would do all week last week.... Which is EXACTLY what they did the past 2 years....
No body should be surpised at this, no body should be afraid of this.
Yea because it's totally not "normal" for a companies pps to drop after a R/S. Ohhh Wait, it is! Pretty much all stocks go down in value immediately after a R/S. This is well known and NORMAL.
There has been nothing but extremely low volume, MM control and no real news since the R/S. Of course it's not going to shoot up under those conditions lol, sorry you were apparently expecting otherwise.
What makes this stock "healthy" is the fact that they have a verry low O/S now, and a much higher pps than .0019. This stock now has the abblity to run to .20, .30, .50 + very quickly on good news, and go even higher than that long term. Something that wasnt possiable pre R/S due to the high O/S and market cap.
Just give it up ok? Your "theories" of dilution and reasons for the R/S hold no ground.
Go back to yahoo kirk.jason\fatpennies. All you do every day on both boards is make completely pointless posts talking about level 2 data and the bid and ask. There was a massive sell of 70k shares, so of course the ask is going to go downt o .35 cents after that.....
Big deal.
Yea thats belivable! thx!
Springroll, of course! and their main reason to do a R/S was to DILUTE DILUTE DILUTE !!! Thats all you have ever said! Sure the R/S ALLOWED them to buy Luxor with mostly shares instead of cash, but if you actually think that the main reason the company did a R/S was to free up 4 million shares so they could buy another company, then your more ignorant than I ever thought.
ARTS HAD to do a R/S at some point. If this stock was ever going to become a legitment stock, they had to get rid of the O/S and a R/S was the best way to do this. What better time to do a R/S then when you got your 3rd quater earnings coming out which should be really good and when you have a chance to buy a company that is worth 10 million?
Getting Luxor with shares freed up by a R/S was just a bonus, the apex, in a long line of good reasons to do a R/S.
First of all, we are still roughly 4000% above where we were pre R/S. So if we are heading back to those levels, we still have a LONG way to go.
2nd, to answer your question, the main reason for the R/S was to get rid of the O/S and put this stock in a postion where it would more accurately reflect the actual value of this company. Also, getting rid of the massive O/S was needed so this stock could run and move up with good news. They wanted to make this stock healthy.
Thanks to the R/S, this stock now can move up big ammounts due to the low O/S. Also, it gives this company a chance to really increase the value of the stock and at some point get it over the dollar level where they will be able to apply for uplisting to another exchange.
If they didn't do the R/S. At some point this company would be making nice profits and having great numbers but the stock would only be worth 1 or 2 cents because the OS was too high. Even though at that point the company would technicaly be worth many times that pps. So they would have had a stock that was no where near reflecting the actual value of the company it self.
Those are the main reasons they did a R/S.
You have done nothing today but rant and worrie about the filing, something you really shouldn't have been even looking for or expecting till later in the week in the first place based on past history. Every other day you find something else to worry about on here.
Thats great you called IR to find out "if" they were going to file today or not. You cliam that in other companies they have actually answered your questions like that. Also perfectly fine. But let me tell you something, most penny stocks do not tend to answer questions like that. On top of that, it should be painfully obvious to you by now, specially since you have called them before, that Big Apple SUCKS. Their classic response is to state that they will have an "expert" get back to you. It's quite obvious they don't care at all about ARTS investors or the company in general.
Further more, ARTS can release their 10Q anytime today, so calling now is kind of pointless as they have all day to release it. Then they have a roughly 24 hour window to file for the extension.
If you are that worried about when its coming out, go to the sec site and keep hitting the refresh button every 5 mins all day long till you see something from ARTS show up, heres the link:
http://www.sec.gov/cgi-bin/browse-edgar?action=getcurrent
What I love even more than your ranting is the fact that you are now calling me a "pumper" LOL. Please tell me how I have "pumped" this stock, and why don't you go ahead and tell people what your actual deffention of "pumper" is for the record.
I have stated nothing but facts and my own personal opinions based on facts and research in regards to ARTS. In all of my posts I have stated this:
If the numbers are good to great, this should shoot up nicely. If they numbers are decent to bad, then it wont, simple as that.
I have said this over and over and over and over again. I have also stated that it is my OPINION that the numbers will be good to great, I have given DETAILED reasons why I belive this to be the case. But I have said over and over again, these are my OPINIONs and that doesn't mean what so ever that they will actually come true. I have also stated in my posts over and over and over again anything can happen and we wont know the full picture till the 10Q it self hits. I also love the fact you lable me as a "pumper" yet you have agreed with countless statements and posts I have made in the past weeks. But now suddenly because I got mad with you you now suddenly lable me a pumper? Nice. Maybe I was a little harsh, but every other day it seems you start worrying about something else that is pretty pointless to worry about.
But how in gods name is that "pumping"? Buddy, thats called stating facts and personal opinions. I have never came on here and made posts that just blindly said this stock was going to the moon or going to shooot way up. In everyone of my posts i stated facts, and opinions and listed detail reasons as to how I formed those opinions. I basicly put all of my logic and reasoning out there for all to see and make their own conclusions. Again, thats not "pumping"
The fact that I have stated countless times that I don't know for sure what will happen with this stock and that anything is possiable should also prove to you or anyone else I am not a pumper lol.
I guess you lable people as "pumpers" if they don't worry every day about something different with the stock they are invested in. I have done my DD long ago, if I was worried about this company I wouldn't have invested money into it. Now is not the time to worry about anything, now is the time to sit back and wait for the facts to come out.
I also find it quite ironic that you call me a "pumper" then right after that tell me "if your going to quote me, quote me right!". Thats funny for a few reasons. One being you called me a pumper, with out actually taking any facts from any of my posts. Which if you did, you and everyone else on here would clearly see that I am not pumping.
2nd, it's funny because last time I checked I never actually "quoted" anything that you said. Notice the "?" symbol there, those were questions there, not "quotes" buddy.
Lol classic Captim Jim, making posts based on ZERO facts, nothing but pure company bashing. LOL do you think if you use all caps it makes what you say look like any less of a lie?
The 10Q is technically due tomorrow, but ARTS has filed for a 5 day extension each of the past two years and has released the 3rd quater 10Q around the 19th/20th. So don't be surpised if it doesn't come out tomorrow. Hopefully it will though, but I am betting it will hit thrusday or friday.
I am not worried at all, if the numbers are good to great, then this should shoot up! If the numbers are not good to great, then its not, simple as that.
I don't think there will be any problem with this going up if the numbers are good or great. If they show a profit for the quater then this will fly. If they are just simply decent, then we might not get a big run up like last quaters, but a more slow and steady climb up for a few days.