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02/01/11 11:51 PM

Post #124503 on Charge Enterprises Inc (fka CRGEQ)

I would suggest you check out the wording of the PR ....it sure seems to be well written compared to other PR's .

"well written"? Really? I've held fire since this was released thinking perhaps my powers of comprehension are not up to the task.

Here's the release:

"GoIP Global, Inc. (PINKSHEETS: GOIG) announced its subsidiary GO800 has finalized its preparation for a new launch, which is now to be accessible for FREE to users to receive 100 free minutes each month. GO800 launch provides Twitter users with the first right to register their Twitter names on the GO800 platform as a Voice Keyword™. The new launch will take place over a 90 day period beginning February 14, by invitation access only, followed by open access to Twitter members and then to the general public.

IF Communications, www.if-communications.com, will be coordinating the marketing launch with offices based in San Francisco and London. IF Communications will be in charge of developing the right messages for GO800, build media awareness, educate the mobile and advertising industry about GO800, and support the marketing with social and media campaigns."

GoIP Global, Inc. and GO800, LLC

"Free to users to receive 100 free minures...."

Putting 'free' twice in the same sentence does not contribute to clarity. Neither does not specifying what the monthly costs are up front, or what the costs are if the 100 free minutes are exceeded. Will a credit card be required up front? If not, where will revenues come from?

"GO800 launch provides Twitter users with the first right to register their Twitter names on the GO800 platform as a Voice Keyword™. The new launch will take place over a 90 day period beginning February 14, by invitation access only, followed by open access to Twitter members and then to the general public."

If Twitter users have "FIRST right to register...." then who receives the "invitation access only" that is stated as preceeding "open access to Twitter members"? One can't be both 'first' and not be part of an unspecified "invitation only" group.

blackhawks

02/01/11 7:59 PM

Post #124453 on Charge Enterprises Inc (fka CRGEQ)

if some sm business named Sammys pizza wanted to reserve "Sammys" can he use it for his business by putting it on flyers, delevery vehicle etc? How would GOIG know people arent using it for a business?

Up until someone at Go800 reads this.....they won't know.
More improtantly, they will not care once they do know. No, make that they will be very happy!

Imagine a Fortune 500 company with a Twitter account. Now imagine their marketing people saying "this didn't make sense at $500/mo and no one else knowing about Go800 or using it." Now, at mo/min pricing and with growing public/customer awareness this may make sense for such and such ad campaign."

If your current Twitter user name is a business name, you're 'in'. If you'd like to open a Twitter account with your business as a user name, you'll be 'in'. If anyone doesn't see this new Go800 marketing strategy as a 'camel's vanity nose under the business tent', they're not paying attention.

blackhawks

02/01/11 2:47 PM

Post #124362 on Charge Enterprises Inc (fka CRGEQ)

Just write the IF CEO, she will tell you what you need to know.

Tv, start ordering Decaf at your Starbucks. You're venturing into 'pumpersville' with your recent seies of posts. Your suggestion to contact the IF CEO is the equivalent of FAUX News calling Sarah Palin to confirm the veracity of what she stated. How rigorous a cross examination do you suppose THAT is?

Go GOIG!!

blackhawks

01/31/11 3:52 PM

Post #124008 on Charge Enterprises Inc (fka CRGEQ)

So when these capitalists get the invite to try GO800, how many do you think will be buying shares of stock?

Hard to say. Those for whom a revenue stream and a positive balance sheet are important may decline the 'invitation'.

As for this being the "most important PR" that GOIG has ever released? That remains to be seen as well. If past PR's and audio updates and subsequent pps are any measure, we can take comfort in the fact that that we haven't seen the usual bleed off in share price.

blackhawks

01/27/11 7:57 PM

Post #122851 on Charge Enterprises Inc (fka CRGEQ)

Why would you, or anyone else for that matter, take simple questions that any informed consumer would be expected to ask about a service as 'hostile'?

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on the meaning of 'hostile'. Some people have suggested that the Go800 service "sells itself". I'm here to tell you that it hasn't and that fact is reflected in the pps.

You take the normal questions that any salesperson needs to have the answers to, before they speak with a prospect, as an indication of hostility. Obviously this Twitter venture is going to be a 'turn-key' operation where there is no live interaction with anyone who can answer any questions that a potential user might have. Hopefully there will be info on the Go800 site that can answer some of those legitimate questions.

Your $10/mo figure is too low.
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It was an estimate. And how exactly do you come to the conclusion that it is too low? If you could back that statement up it'd be appreciated.

I've seen the proposed pricing. Unless it's changed, your estimate is way below the 'bronze' tier.

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what they and their friends can already do with each others 'vanity names' stored in their respective mobile device address books
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This is your opinion. Why wouldn't we give it a try if it has potential to create revenue? I really don't understand why you're so adamant against an idea that has a chance to be successful.

I posed it as a question that is likely to occur to anyone being asked to pay beyond an allottment of 'free minutes'. Asking questions should be viewed as a way of learning how a service can be made to be more successful.

blackhawks

01/27/11 7:15 PM

Post #122848 on Charge Enterprises Inc (fka CRGEQ)

The pie hasn't been sweetened enough. GOIG has to hire the agency to do the job.

Mick, between Ike, Doone, myself and others nary a single ad agency of any size was not approached through phone, email and in person both in their offices and at events specifically held for ad agencies.

If you want to assume that all of us overlooked the basics, the imaginative or anything else to motivate these agencies to bring their clients to Go800 you are simply mistaken. If you believe that all of us are incapable of putting one word in front of another in logical, enthusiastic and persuasive fashion you are, again, mistaken. What then has been missing?

Take a look at the description of a 'media kit' shown below. If you think that the Ad agencies are not required to conduct due diligence with potential vendors and on behalf of their clients, you are mistaken.

I've underlined and italicized those components for which we could provide no satisfactory/reassuring information. Also working against us was the same confusion between SMS and what Go800 brings to the texting table, reflected by some posts on this board, notwithstanding demoing the key word that we'd reserved for some of their clients.

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-media-kit.htm

A basic media kit usually comes as a folder of information about the company. The public relations person at the business will generally include a card with contact information also. The basic kit usually has an information sheet about the company, along with a press release describing anything new or innovative the business is doing, a short form of the annual report, and perhaps a sheet of testimonials from people who have used the business's services or products. These releases are placed in an attractive, conservative folder, possibly with the company logo on the front, and mailed to media outlets. Financial firms and similar businesses often send a media kit that is so designed.

blackhawks

01/26/11 9:25 PM

Post #122486 on Charge Enterprises Inc (fka CRGEQ)

Why so hostile? I told them about the idea and they liked it. I also informed them that it would be free at first (that's accurate, correct?), and would eventually cost ~$10/month. Why you would be against something that could potentially propel this company?

Why would you, or anyone else for that matter, take simple questions that any informed consumer would be expected to ask about a service as 'hostile'?

Did you allow for your investor's enthusiam as a possible infuence on some kids who may very well have raised the same questions after having had time to think about it?

Your $10/mo figure is too low. There is no good reason for you to assume that specific price, particualrly because it was posted as a 'desired price' by a poster on this board.

People, I'm not discounting the potential for the pending, hoped for increased awareness of the Go800 service as a boost to GOIG pps. I am raising the same questions that I have consistently raised about Go800 as it relates to consumers actually paying for a redundant service......to what they and their friends can already do with each others 'vanity names' stored in their respective mobile device address books..... without a clear reason to pay to do so.

blackhawks

01/26/11 8:39 PM

Post #122478 on Charge Enterprises Inc (fka CRGEQ)

So I told my younger cousins (highschool) about the go800 service and they thought it was a great idea.

What exactly did you tell them? Did you even hint at cost, in addition to their mobile device plan costs, for them or their parents for duplicating a way for their friends to 'call' them?

How long will the "cool kids" retain their 'coolness' after they try and persuade their cool friends that texting to connect is faster/cooler/more 'secure' than 'click/touch/voice prompt' to call a person already stored, vanity name or not, in their address book?

blackhawks

01/26/11 1:40 PM

Post #122371 on Charge Enterprises Inc (fka CRGEQ)

Pricing wise, 500k people at say 10/month is 5M in revenue.
Compound that with new investors is why personally I have the .10-.12 target during this promotion.

TV, you're reasonably prudent with your statements about info that is out there for everybody, somewhat less so with your extrapolations as to users, revenue and pps.

What are you basing the $10/mo figure upon and what would a significantly higher user cost/mo do to your projections for acceptance and retention of the service.

I'm asking the question RE vanity key word users/'civilians', rather than for business usage.

blackhawks

01/25/11 1:27 PM

Post #121913 on Charge Enterprises Inc (fka CRGEQ)

Be nice if they registered/trademarked that phrase so no one else could use it

Good idea, before "Chicken Ranch" decides to go international.

blackhawks

01/25/11 1:17 PM

Post #121905 on Charge Enterprises Inc (fka CRGEQ)

Trains in the Station All-Aboard!

like a crack head spider-monkey with Red-Bull for blood!

For $10,000 create a stock trading metaphor involving a train, a spider monkey, crack and Red-Bull.

You win.

blackhawks

01/25/11 12:23 PM

Post #121850 on Charge Enterprises Inc (fka CRGEQ)

it could of been Twitter, Facebook, this board, BigSkyInvestor......

Never mind, I just listened to the audio. It's one of those dates "At which......." something or other will be firmed up.

blackhawks

01/25/11 12:05 PM

Post #121828 on Charge Enterprises Inc (fka CRGEQ)

We will find out by February 7th! GO GOIG!!!

Really?!. How did you come by that date? Please don't tell us it's because '7' is your lucky number.

blackhawks

01/19/11 10:01 PM

Post #118956 on Charge Enterprises Inc (fka CRGEQ)

hey i know i'll get in the middle of unique/blackhawks conversation that should put me in the looney bin by morning!

Bear, as you will soon learn you are in the "reality/accuracy bin" when you read my posts.

blackhawks

01/19/11 9:58 PM

Post #118955 on Charge Enterprises Inc (fka CRGEQ)

I know I'm late to this conversation, but exactly what would subscribers be paying $10 per month for?

Clearly your belated arrival to the 'conversation' is no impediment to your insight!

It is an unresolved question and an incorrect $ figure. How much more perplexed are you about what people paying $20+/mo for?

You will receive a response, of sorts, as soon as Unique has his message allottment reloaded.

blackhawks

01/19/11 4:47 PM

Post #118908 on Charge Enterprises Inc (fka CRGEQ)

Blackhawks....good, you got my comment about pricing, so let's hope it starts at 10/month.

Uh, no, not good/not $10 and not relevant to you for the reasons you've stated. I understand why you would want to 'give it out'
via email or business card, seeing as you can't get involved in a conversation or Q & A with either friends or acquaintences on either pricing or their device address books.

Seems like I'll have to wait until 50 million (hopefully) Twitter users sign up for their Vanity keywords, okay, how about just a few thousand.......I'll then wait for Ike to take it nationally and offer it to everyone.......I'll then wait until several more thousand (if not millions) sign up for their Vanity keywords.....I'll then wait unitl $750,000 or more per month is rolling into our coffers from the vanity keyword concept.....Then I'll make sure to get my $10/month Vanity keyword to validate the Vanity keyword concept. How does that sound?

Sounds like you'll be drawing SS before all of that comes to pass!

blackhawks

01/19/11 4:13 PM

Post #118896 on Charge Enterprises Inc (fka CRGEQ)

blackhawks...Your price point will not be met.
So what are you saying, that Ike won't offer it that inexpensively? Or that people would hate paying that little for it? I certainly don't see myself paying more than 20/month for it for the way I'd use it.

What I'm saying is that NObody is going to complain about "paying that little" for it.

give me your 'pitch'
Nope, won't do that again after having done it numerous times for you in the past.

I would've remembered reading such a pitch. Either reproduce it or make one up. Otherwise, how exactly are you going to "attract attention" and from whom?

I think that a point you've missed on this is that, in reality, practically EVERY KEYWORD is in essence A VANITY KEYWORD. Sure, some people may use it for "business purposes," but it all boils down to someone wanting to use it for the purpose of, well, attracting attention.

I never missed those points, I distinguish between what a key word is and what it is used for. Businesses need to see a ROI.

I suppose you can say that personal vanity key word owners will be looking for a ROPI...Return On Psychic Investment...in additon to some tangible value in exchange for money paid month.....after month.

You're not getting the price you want, you're not getting the bells and whistles you want and you're not getting it off of the Twitter platform. Unless things change between now and launch, you're just not getting it!

blackhawks

01/19/11 3:20 PM

Post #118855 on Charge Enterprises Inc (fka CRGEQ)

Blackhawks...So, again, what does a potential vanity key word buyer think about adding $20+
As I've mentioned, a starting point would have to be $10/month, not 20+.

There simply is no psychic vanity payoff for a vanity statement that is not made to or shared with others.
Ah, but there is a payoff. The owner of the vanity keyword, as I've mentioned times before, gives knowledge of it to whomever he wants

It's arguable just what people would pay. Your price point will not be met. As to whom the 'owner' will share their vanity key word with? Eliminate everyone who has the owner's name currently in their mobile device address book or, please, give me your 'pitch' to those people to both store and use your new vanity key word. Really, you may help out a lot of people who are on the fence about registering.

TVme....don't misunderstand me when it come to business application as with sales people. Too often on this board business use of G0800 is blurred with 'civilian' use/ownership.

The hidden potential in what is coming is that the new pricing may overcome price objections that some business owners expressed regarding generic key words.

blackhawks

01/19/11 3:07 PM

Post #118851 on Charge Enterprises Inc (fka CRGEQ)

Got to get the cost down to 5 or 10/month, like for texting.

Be prepared for 'sticker shock' that will undermine your other points.

blackhawks

01/19/11 1:10 PM

Post #118789 on Charge Enterprises Inc (fka CRGEQ)

Remember: it's not about the user of the Vanity Keyword, not what you might think that his friends or associates think about him having one; in the same vein as anything "vanity" it doesn't matter at all what others think, only what the vanity owner thinks.....and of course what SELLS !! And we know the vanity market is HUGE.

So, again, what does a potential vanity key word buyer think about adding $20+ to their monthly mobile device/service costs for a service that is just in their head and in the Go800 data base?

It's NOT a license plate nor a tee shirt nor a tatoo. It IS a monthly cost for which, if there is no visible vanity payoff, there will need to be some utility provided in return.

There simply is no psychic vanity payoff for a vanity statement that is not made to or shared with others.

blackhawks

01/19/11 11:36 AM

Post #118737 on Charge Enterprises Inc (fka CRGEQ)

Agree, but do you think they'll set up the safety features for women and kids?

No, it's a 'text to connect' service. While a key word will conceal your phone number it does not prevent threatening or harrassing contact from anyone who is given the key word or who finds it out through a third party....someone else you've shared it with.

Suggesting that a financially challenged company consider cost add on 'counter measures' to make the service more secure against nuisance calls' is fanciful at best.

blackhawks

01/18/11 10:29 PM

Post #118604 on Charge Enterprises Inc (fka CRGEQ)

Once Ike has a national/public campaign open to all for Vanity Keywords, I'll get one. Don't be disappointed if I don't give you my Vanity name, it's tiring enough having to explain this stuff to you through the board and talking with you would be a big downer.

I don't use Twitter so I won't be getting a Twitter Vanity word, but once Ike goes national for the entire John Q Public, I'm getting mine.

Once this, once that. 'Ghost 800#s', blocking feature, $10/mo pricing and 'once it goes national'....! Who are you kidding? It will never be just right for you, but it will irresistible for everyone else and the salvation for Go800. You're projecting your mental block onto me and displaying a remarkable level of condescension toward everyone else.

Either open a Twitter sccount and secure your vanity key word or stop belaboring this board about how it's a viable product for everyone but you.......just now.

And yeah, I'll be REAL disappointed if I don't learn of your 'vanity key name'!

blackhawks

01/18/11 6:30 PM

Post #118548 on Charge Enterprises Inc (fka CRGEQ)

Throughout the long debate of Vanity Keywords, I've stated that the cost has got to be minimal, say 10/month or so. This would be for a basic level or service. Other prices for various packages of free minutes or additional services, such as the Go800-managed number to shield access to one's real cell phone, could be charged varying monthly fees.

You're arguing with yourself and you've set yourself up for bitter disappointment. But hey, if I'm wrong please let us all know when you register for your vanity keyword!

I really don't want to clutter the board with the back and forth of 'splainin' and 'resplainin' it to you again. It's old news. The concept is being implemented. It should've been implemented months ago. It's a reality that you must come to terms with.

Like I said, "embrace the progress." In other words, "don't hate....congratulate".... And you can congratulate Ike since he finally came to his senses on the issue. Now how 'bout you?

You've never explained anything to anyone's satisfaction but your own. Go back and re-read some of your own reservations on just where this Twitter venture is headed.

blackhawks

01/18/11 5:34 PM

Post #118530 on Charge Enterprises Inc (fka CRGEQ)

[quote Who cares what "your clients knew?"

I cared and I was simply correcting one of your many sweeping and unsubstantiated generalizations.

Let me 'splain it to you again: Vanity Keyword holders would be WILLING PARTICIPANTS in the program....and paying ones, too, hopefully.

Stuff it, Ricky. You couldn't 'splain' your way out of your contradictory positions and generalizations if your life depended on it.

Who's to say that GOIG couldn't actually get in serious legal trouble for connecting people to such companies without their knowledge or desire to have such done? It's not too far of a stretch to consider such as "unwanted/spam" of sorts even if our purpose is, ostensibly, to put them in touch with clients (though that might be pushing it).

Pointless argument that contradicts your claim that no companies knew about the service. And I'm guessing that 'damage' would be hard to prove even if your fears were grounded.

blackhawks

01/18/11 4:38 PM

Post #118516 on Charge Enterprises Inc (fka CRGEQ)

blackhawks...why you don't get things is beyond me. The difference is because the COMPANIES getting those minutes are getting them without knowing that they are even gettting the service or the minutes. On top of that, they are getting unlimited minutes.

There are more things 'beyond you' than I care to recount.

More of the companies I registered key words for knew about the service than did not know.

You lamented a loss of money that "we didn't have" from providing keywords to companies without charging them. You're the one that wanted to cancel their key words for lack of advertising and because it "was costing us money". Your words, take responsibility for them. By the way, the $10 charge for vanity key words you feel is reasonable is a little on the low side as of right now.

blackhawks

01/18/11 4:15 PM

Post #118511 on Charge Enterprises Inc (fka CRGEQ)

[quoteOr, of course, we could just consider giving away a huge number of Vanity Keywords, say 1,500,000 of them with 30 free minutes per month for 1 year in order to get a user base established...and we can just chalk up the cost to a marketing campaign.]

What I stated is that it is costing us money. Whehter you think it is negligible to non-existent is just as much a guess as anything. What is clear is that ANY minutes cost us money and it's money we don't have, get it ??

Yep, got it. One of the most impressive back flips that I've seen since the Beijing Olympics gymnastics competition!

To switch metaphors a hemorrhage from a knife wound or a gun shot wound is still a life threatening loss of blood. But for you a vanity key word induced blood letting is.....OK? "Get it?"

blackhawks

01/15/11 3:28 PM

Post #117844 on Charge Enterprises Inc (fka CRGEQ)

Motorcrossnut mentioned once that there are better technology services other than GO800 nowadays. I wonder what smartphone apps are better than our beloved GO800?

One of the greatest misunderstandings concerning G0800, as expressed on this board from time to time, is that there is another similar service or that there is a web based service that is better.

There is no SMS...Short Message Service....that results in a phone connection in response to a text, and I don't mean by 'phone connection' a text that places you in queue to be called back.

One can certainly book mark Google Local on their smart phone and then enter the product or service they're looking for, pick out who they want to call and, if there is no live phone link to click to call, enter the phone number. Cumbersome relative to a Go800 'text to connect' and impossible for the still significant number of people without smart phones or who choose not to pay for web access on 'semi-smart' phones.

blackhawks

01/13/11 10:23 PM

Post #117364 on Charge Enterprises Inc (fka CRGEQ)

What I do not agree with is the notion that using PR's in emails to prospects is consistent with what I was referencing in terms of professional sales tools and media kits that tell the 'story' in a manner that assists sales people in closing deals.

Oil, trust me on the following. The PR's were the least of the email content which was in fact customized to address the identified company needs that I'd uncovered in conversations with my contacts. No matter how the 'story' was spun by ANY of us, it wasn't sufficient to the task. Neither the demo of the key word nor the video's did the trick either.

All that said, I'm putting together a proposal to Go800 on the opportunity that the reported inability to use smart phones to easily, if at all, call vanity 800 #'s presents us with.

Has anyone with a smart phone discovered a work around that would enable an alpha numeric keypad to appear on the screen? Any phone have that capability? Anyone think that device manufacturers would respond to a request from the vanity 800 # providers to make it easier to dial those #'s?

Here's one explanation of the issue. ("press and hold the alt key" doesn't sound like a very 'elegant' solution!)

http://www.800response.com/tollfree-vanity800blog/2009/07/dialing-vanity-800-numbers-from-smartphones.html

Dialing Vanity 800 Numbers from Smartphones
By Jeanne Landau on July 31, 2009 1:19 PM | 1 Comment | No TrackBacks

Occasionally we see the question, "How do I dial a toll-free vanity 800 number from my smartphone?"

Our response is, "Easily!" Smartphone devices that come with numeric and QWERTY keypads definitely have the ability to dial a vanity 800 numbers.

For example, from Blackberry devices, the user starts to dial a phone number, which automatically launches the phone application. They dial "1-800" and then press and hold the ALT key to continue using the qwerty pad to dial the letters of the vanity number, like "NEW-CARS." The device will automatically transpose the letters into the appropriate digits on the keypad that correspond with the letters of the vanity phone number that they are dialing. Other devices may operate differently, however there is certainly a way for them to dial vanity 800 number. Check the user guide of your device for further instructions.

As device manufacturers develop new technology, they should take into consideration that vanity 800 numbers are not going away. Fortune 1000 companies like 1-800-Flowers, 1-800-Contacts, and 1-800-Got-Junk have developed their entire business around a brand name that includes a vanity number! So, even though the ability to dial vanity numbers DOES exist today on most smartphones, we'd like to see the manufacturers develop user-friendly devices that allow their customers to EASILY dial toll-free vanity 800 numbers."

blackhawks

01/13/11 9:04 PM

Post #117361 on Charge Enterprises Inc (fka CRGEQ)

blackhawks this answer to oil has me pissed off so much i am choking on my spittle,

to suggest that oils "high standard" is lacking because of poster fatigue, well well you sound just like min* m*r, accusing him of over posting. shame on you sir, shame on you, unless you are minamoo, then i understand it.

First of all I'm not sure how any acknowlegement of the qualites that we all know Oil's posts for, together with his recent and increased posting presence, could be taken for anything other than the tongue in cheek remark that it is. You've been here long enough to know exactly what I meant.

Secondly, most of my recent posts have pointed to the lack of data that we've had on Go800 usage, and why, and what we need going forward.

Thirdly, I'll await other posters' responses and especially Oil's response before I conclude that anyone but you has so badly misconstrued my words and my intent.

blackhawks

01/13/11 7:16 PM

Post #117356 on Charge Enterprises Inc (fka CRGEQ)

A kit for a new company will be heavy on information about the company's history, usually with an eye toward showing how innovative the company is, thereby making it more newsworthy".

I'm sure we could BS something pretty good there, no??

Oil, I fear that your usual high standards of due diligence, business acumen and critical thinking skills have lowered due to 'posting fatigue' as reflected in an unusually high recent posting rate....for you.

Look at any number of Go800 PR's over the past 8 months that were nothing if not boastful about our patent pending service. I omit the ones from Minimar because of the offensively poor grammar and deficient logic displayed.

I used many of those Go800 PR's in my email communications, to no avail for now. What we can't rule out is that all of the communications from myself and other Ambassadors to corporate prospects represent latent potential business that will materialize when we have an actual audience of Go800 users who begin texting those companies.

Let's agree that any future "Go800 media kit" should concentrate on corporate case studies and user experiences that will speak to corporate needs.

blackhawks

01/13/11 6:41 PM

Post #117348 on Charge Enterprises Inc (fka CRGEQ)

but I remember seeing some 'glossy' print material way back when and folks talking about receiving their 'packages' in the mail.

Those were glossy sales brochures for hand out and mailing puposes. They duplicated info that is available on the Go800 website.

I don't consider those to be components of a 'media kit'.

That leaves us with the 'survey' results, the generic info on the growth and projected growth in texting and whatever usage data the Twitter venture may generate.

blackhawks

01/13/11 12:53 PM

Post #117305 on Charge Enterprises Inc (fka CRGEQ)

This is why I've brought GO800 to his attention

If you've not yet seen and passed along this video....
... http://www.vimeo.com/13307831 ....give it a go.

blackhawks

01/13/11 12:37 PM

Post #117304 on Charge Enterprises Inc (fka CRGEQ)

blackhawks...I didn't state that you couldn't show them any major company's stats, I just stated "company." Now why a salesman would not use the stats of the companies registered to illustrate to a potential cash paying client isn't clear. You wouldn't be misleading anyone with such information. Who cares if they are paying customers or not when you just want to show usage figures? Ughh salesmanship 101

Why do you think there were company stats worth showing from either paying customers let alone 'trial users'? None of them (big companies) were advertising. All that they would show is 'test texting' by employees or investors.

The question prospects were asking dealt with 'visibility' more than simply who else was using the service.

You and others like to drop a lot of laments about Salesmanship 101 not being practiced. It's always because you assume some sales step or another wasn't followed by one of us. And that assumption is based upon the faulty premise that some available data that would have made a difference in a sales outcome wasn't
used, or some particularly persuasive phraseology or recitiation of benefits was overlooked. That's simply not what happened.

I have no "skinny on Twitter".

blackhawks

01/12/11 8:05 PM

Post #117213 on Charge Enterprises Inc (fka CRGEQ)

Unique,

I'm not sure why the system is not posting my reply to your post to me so here it is:

blackhawks...Well I'm not sure how you can state that you had no company to show them which had used the service when there are 7,000 of them registered and live.

I'm not sure how I could say something like that either considering that I suit up for neither the Blackhawks nor the Bears and that I remain concussion free. Oh, that's right I didn't state that. I stated that I could show them no major company that was both using and advertisong the service.

Do you really imagine that I would mislead prospects to take registrations for active paying customers when I, among others, repeatedly clarified that very point on this board?

Each registered name costs us every time someone contacts them./quote]

Negligible to non-existent, sad to state. I realize that you want to attribute usage costs to a thus far failed strategy, but that very failure has greatly lowered the costs that would have accrued if the service were being actively used.

So now we're left with the potential benefits that will result from a 'phone book' of 7000 companies and services that can be accessed by whatever audience of users Twitter affords us.

Chinese Proverb

A book tightly shut is but a block of paper

A Go800 key word registration list unknown to the masses is but a tree falling in the forest with no one to hear it.

Or something like that.

blackhawks

01/12/11 7:58 PM

Post #117210 on Charge Enterprises Inc (fka CRGEQ)

blackhawks...Well I'm not sure how you can state that you had no company to show them which had used the service when there are 7,000 of them registered and live.

Chinese Proverb

A book tightly shut is but a block of paper

A Go800 key word registration list unknown to the masses is but a tree falling in the forest with no one to hear it.

Or something like that.

blackhawks

01/12/11 5:55 PM

Post #117192 on Charge Enterprises Inc (fka CRGEQ)

a buddy of mine just happens to be the vp of public relations with the seattle SEAHAWKS and sounders! i'll have to talk to him about GOIG.

Do it before this Sunday's game, as they may be less receptive to fielding 'text to connects' after the game with the Bears.

blackhawks

01/12/11 2:49 PM

Post #117160 on Charge Enterprises Inc (fka CRGEQ)

Once a bigge joins up...they will all fall like dominos.

Then it IS a good thing that all of those registered companies are set up and ready to go.

blackhawks

01/12/11 2:43 PM

Post #117158 on Charge Enterprises Inc (fka CRGEQ)

well that's good to know that some have been removed for, I guess, not paying for the service. But since they were, as you say, replaced with other companies, what is the net positive difference to us shareholders? Was it done under the same methodology as previously registered names:

register the company without them knowing about it and then hope to get something out of it?

or...

have the replacement companies been contacted first, the keyword set up for a specific trial period, service/results tracked, and then a decision to either lease or pull the plug been implemented?

What's your take on it, the former or the latter?

It's the former and it's not the simplistic black and white, false choice of actions that you state. Most of my registered brands were contacted by me and provided with a demo and encouragment to advertise. Pricing was not the issue. Acceptance of the concept was and that was largely because there was no company to point them to who was using and advertising the service. My good humored "why not be the first?!" question was generally met with a chuckle, but rarely with a commitment to use or advertise. And that was after a discussion with them about every marketing idea ever mentioned on this board and including some that haven't been discussed here.

Your 'latter' scenario was tried and simply didn't work for the same reasons stated in my version of the 'former'.

I'm not certain that your concerns about time and pricing are sincere. I know that for the reasons I stated earlier that they're not valid. The switch box configurations are scalable and thus far 'unchallenged', for obvious reasons, as to capacity.

There is therefore no upside to removing key words unless it is to provide you and others with a retrospective and illusory sense of leverage or power that Go800 simply never possesed. I made room for companies that I thought were better prospects.

blackhawks

01/12/11 12:24 PM

Post #117126 on Charge Enterprises Inc (fka CRGEQ)

As it turns out, it appears we've kept all these accounts active, costing us tons of time and money, while not establishing anything concrete with the target companies

Many companies have been removed and subsituted with other companies. The alleged cost in time in money is inconsequential. Registration is fast and activation of the key word phone number is instantaneous. The switch capacity is strained neither by costs nor as to capacity.

As much was established with target companies as was possible considering Go800 advertising and marketing constraints and misteps that have been throughly discussed on this board.

blackhawks

01/12/11 11:48 AM

Post #117119 on Charge Enterprises Inc (fka CRGEQ)

The only positive thing I can say is that all the people on Twitter can actually try it out and see how easy it is to get connected! When someone mentions Amazon I tell them about GO800 and its service is working! GO GOIG!!

And therein lies the Catch-22 that bedevils all those who bemoan the 'free service'. Who exactly would the twitter users be texting if all of those comapany registered key words were not in the Go800 system?

None of the quesions or points in the "Sears Presentation" were not asked and made with Sears and many, many other companies. They've declined as of this point in time.

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