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JT, I really must say this with all the conviction I have. I do NOT think it is Cecil. I know plenty of people with a million shares. It could be anybody (if indeed someone is selling).
EXPLORATION & PRODUCTION AOT UPSTREAM
Upstream operators are involved in a broad spectrum of
activities related to the exploration and production (E&P)
of oil and gas. Increasingly, upstream entities rely upon
enhanced oil recovery techniques such as horizontal
drilling and hydraulic fracturing to unlock previously
inaccessible oil and gas reserves, which has sparked
an unprecedented surge in production and triggered
takeaway capacity challenges facing the industry.
Upstream companies represent the highest potential
for benefit from AOT™ Viscosity Reduction Systems.
We are actively collaborating with upstream producers
in Colorado, Wyoming, Utah, Texas, North Dakota,
Alabama, Alberta, Canada and overseas.
So, again, may we infer that this many contracts could result from these active collaborations? Wow, this looks bigger than I thought. So I would think they would be talking to some of the same companies for the 2 different product lines, Midstream and Upstream. But the few who may be the same are likely interested in BOTH products. My Goodness. To me this an incredible update.
Yeah, and have you seen this?
LONG DISTANCE PIPELINE TRANSPORTATION AOT MIDSTREAM
Midstream operators specialize in the processing, storing,
transportation and often the marketing of oil, natural gas
and natural gas liquids. The midstream sector offers
the second highest potential for benefit from viscosity
reduction, most notably within the continental U.S.. The
Company is actively in talks with midstream transporters
based in Alberta, Canada, Colorado, Wyoming, Utah,
Texas, Alabama, Oklahoma and in foreign markets to
meet demand as energy producers and transporters seek
new ways to address severe challenges being driven by
explosive upstream growth triggered in 2007-2008.
I mean, how many production and transport companies are they talking to?!? Could that possibly infer that many contracts?
Yeen, if you are experienced in technical analysis, you know no stock goes up in a straight line, and we are up huge off of the lows. Stocks consolidate and rest, then set up before going again. They even retreat and find support after a big move like this. And this is an otc stock in the wild wild west of stock markets. This takes TIME. Let's have some patience.
Geesh Whackster, you crack me up!
PUMA is a market maker on zero, along with many other market makers. I am looking at the order book (the screen) on the level II, and puma is at 1.04, the price we have not been able to get above. If you're not looking at level II, just ignore me because you'll not see any market makers on a regular stock quote. Only on level II. Hope that helps!
That's because PUMA has a big order. As soon as they clear, if they clear, that will be the signal we're going higher. PUMA are being stubborn pr**ks. If they just moved aside they would get better prices. Idiots. Also, they can't have much more, s huge bite has already been taken out it.
Very cool Shl468-- This is just came out on the website TONIGHT. Quick eyes!
Nice work ;)
I dare you to include the daily short position along with the price. 50% shorted today. I doubt that's even legal.
I agree DPS. The oil industry does not do this. They have so much money, if they want a new product they just create a business or if they like your business they just buy you out. This could be huge. I try not to get too exuberant, and temper my enthusiasm, but the potential here gets you into unchartered territory.
Funny, and kind of true. However, I don't agree with #'s 4,5 & 6.
I definitely don't think we will see a change in management, I think the company has had it's fill of management upsets. Then, on #5, Institutions are already buying & I seriously doubt we will see any insider selling. And if we do it will be telegraphed by a form 4 and everyone in the world will know about it.
I also disagree kind of with 9. Greg Bigger's approach is somewhat different than the previous CEO. He is focused on building long term shareholder value, not on creating puffery and PR buzz. He is going to grow the company for real, and not boast and talk about what all of money the company "could" make; although imo it is a LOT. So growing for real means they will by default attract real buyers, big institutional buyers, not short term otc traders. So the silence to me (while it may seem like a "lack of stock moving news" to others), is an indication that they are growing up and playing with the big boys.
Yeen, I completely agree with everything you just said. Very true.
I will just add that the technicals mean little to nothing on the OTC and especially on this stock. Those metrics really don't apply "down here" as some would say.
Let's not look a gift horse in the mouth! Do you realize how huge 1,170,000 shares of volume is for this little stock. Our normal volume is 100k to 200k shares. 1.17 million is enormous. And it's a lot better activity than we had before, which was zilch. Actually nothing but selling. Let's be grateful and thankful for what we have gotten. Regardless of the stock activity, great things are on the horizon.
Welcome to the board yeen.
Actually you are wrong. The downtrend was broken at .90. Take a line, draw it from 1.88 which was the peak high in August, and you have your downtrend. It was broken at .90. Additionally, the reason our volume is so high this time is because there have seen very large pre-arranged bulk orders going through. Not the same thing as last time. There is a reason for this.
Not sure if we should take any heed to your technical observations as you just said in your previous post that you were brand new to this company and are more focused on the science.
"Being from Montana and reading some articles is what led me to be here now. Very interested in the science and have just begun to look into it all. "
I'm just stating the facts. XL approval has no bearing whatsoever on STWA or the AOT having immediate success. Many longs have solely focused on the XL approval incorrectly in my opinion. I have not been one of them.
I disagree. Unless he has been charged LEGALLY by a court of law and then found guilty, this is absolutely not a legitimate shareholder concern. Ridiculous.
Let's worry about selling AOT's shall we? Instead of getting roiled up in some political controversy.
Alkaline, really, it's no big deal. I'm not a mod, but Zinke's political issues have little to nothing to do with STWA. He's one board member and politics is his career, controversy is nature of such a career. Besides, the only thing we need to be concerned about is What can he do for STWA as one of it's board members to add shareholder value. My guess is Ryan Zinke had something to do with landing us the TransCanada contract, so let's see how he can help us create value, instead of worrying about his political affairs. Uh, I hate politics, and they have no place on a stock message board. Just my opinion obviously.
Who cares about the XL section of the Keystone Pipeline, you do know that the XL is only one section of the pipeline, don't you? And I assume you know the AOT is not being installed on the XL, don't you?
Google the Keystone Pipeline, and it will be clear that even if the XL NEVER gets approved that would make no difference whatsoever to STWA and their AOT. In fact, there is so much pipeline already up and running on just the existing Keystone Pipeline in Canada and the US alone that STWA could outfit with AOTs, that they would never need the XL section to become incredibly successful. And, I'm not even mentioning the other pipelines that TransCanada operates across the rest of the US and Canada, that the AOT could be slapped on.
So, the XL section of the pipeline wether approved or never approved, makes no difference whatsoever. But eventually it will be approved, and we will go on that section too ;)
Ooooh, I like surprises Money!!!
Damn, are you all seeing what I'm seeing! 74,000 shares on the bid and 109,751 shares traded IN 15 MINUTES?!?!? Unbelieveable!!!!
Great--Thank you MJ--
Hey MJ--I wonder if you could pass this along to all of the Kansas guys for me. It's a strange request, but necessary.
Hey guys, I have a suggestion. More like a request. 321 Zero and other's in the area, You have done an exceptional job of letting us all know of the delivery of the AOT, and given us wonderful pictures to sink our teeth into. I know this may sound strange because i love the pics as much as all of us, but My request is this: LET'S STAY AWAY FROM THE FIELD NOW AND LET THEM GET ON WITH THEIR JOBS. From what I heard, there have been many attacks being committed upon the TransCanada workers from environmentalist groups, Anti-Fracking groups, Anti-Oil groups, & Anti-Pipeline groups as well as being hounded by the media due to the controversial nature of TransCanada's Keystone XL pipeline. So, anytime they see ANYBODY in the vicinity security becomes heightened, and the guns come out. For the safety of the workers, and the safety of the shareholders, let's keep our distance and let them do their job. Especially since now we have proof, and we can all enjoy knowing the AOT is there.
This has been a public service announcement. Ha. No but I'm actually very serious. This is coming from me, so I'm not making this up. Like I said I know it sounds strange, but it's an important request. Thank you Kansas guys; 321 zero, MJ, and the others. I hope you guys understand. I hope you all understand. I'm not trying to take the ability to take photo's away, just let's keep our distance now and let them do their job.
Thank you all for hearing me out.
I think he is banned from this board, or restricted. That's what he said on RB anyway. Besides, let's enjoy our moment in peace for once! lol
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Fascinating guys, thank you for for the great discourse. That's what this board should be used for. Not a way to manipulate the facts, and a means to spread lies as you know who mentioned below does.
Thanks Pie, I trust in those much more knowledgeable than myself. And I confirm my assumptions.
As I said before, you will refuse to concede, but I know for a fact there are no SHUT OFF valves at the installation site. The entire leg of the pipeline will be shut down for the installation. That's a fact.
Sano you said:
"As to the continue saga of my debate with ZERUSUM on shutting down the flow of oil for Days to install AOT. I say this: What CEO would authorize placing an untested device in a potentially dangerous roadblock position and jeopardize millions of dollars of free flowing oil just to run a test on an unproven device?"
So, let me get this straight. Now you are deflecting your answers (or should I say excuses) onto the incompetence of the CEO?!? So now you think the whole of TransCanada are nuts? Now are you kidding ME? That's your defense? That the CEO is now crazy?!?! I know, and I think everyone on here knows that TransCanada and it's CEO are a great deal more knowledgeable and experienced than you are. You will never concede to it, but they will be shutting down, NOT DIVERTING, this entire leg of the pipeline for the installation, however long that takes. Sorry, nice try but that deflection doesn't fly either sano.
By the way, thank you for making my point. So sano, so why would TransCanada "jeopardize millions of dollars of free flowing oil" and do this crazy thing? Are they insane? (insert sarcasm here). There is only ONE logical answer as to why TransCanada are installing the AOT onto the Keystone Pipeline (and it escapes me why you can't see it): Because they have FULL confidence in the AOT, it's safety, and capability. Let's face it. If TransCanada had 27 engineers pouring over the AOT and are still willing to put it on such an important and valuable pipeline like the Keystone, then they must be DAMN SURE it is safe and will work. I mean, that's what's taken so darn long! And this is not really a "test" is it. TransCanada already knows the AOT works. They just want to get the Reynolds numbers off the pipe. The answer Sano, is where you fail to make the connection time and time again. After examining, assembling, and fine tuning, TransCanada already know it's proven. Heck, the TRP engineers may have even simulated operation during assembly for all we know. So while you grasp at how much of a lack of common sense TransCanada must have, I think they are obviously experts in their field. And they are expert enough to approve and are willing to pay for the AOT to go onto the Keystone. Electric grid or no electric grid. Yeah, I think they are more experienced and knowledgable than you, and know what they are doing more than you do. And while you think that TransCanada's CEO is incompetent I think he knows exactly what he is doing. And TransCanada and their CEO are far more knowledgeable than you about all the dangers and risks associated with this installation, and obviously have enough confidence and belief in the AOT to do what they are doing. Shouldn't WE?
Alkakline, you hit the proverbial nail on the head. I don't think our next quarterly earnings report will have the lease income on it. However, the very fact that as of March 1, 2014 STWA will have gone from a pre-revenue company to a revenue generating company is in my opinion extremely significant. This ticks an important box for many who have been watching STWA, and waiting...
I think as of March 1 we will turn a very big corner, and that indeed is very exciting.
Sano, you seem to claim yourself as some kind of fluid control systems expert, but you lack simple basic knowledge of a working pipeline. Let me explain it to you since either you don't understand, or refuse to believe this very basic fact. The entire leg of the pipeline must be shut down to install the AOT. The significance of the fact there are no shut off valves at the site is that they must shut the oil off either further upstream, or downstream from the pump station. That is not disputable. To top it off I confirmed this with someone that knows the pipeline. I do my due diligence. There are no shut off valves to turn the flow off. I actually think it's laughable that within the same breath you call on the laws of physics, and then turn around and say they could install the AOT system with oil FLOWING! I'm sorry, but I think it's you that does not possess the ability to comprehend a very basic fact. And the fact that you make such an outlandish claim you either just have no common sense, or it's because you have an agenda. Either way, (to borrow your mantra), the laws of physics do not change the facts here.
Another fact you have so completely missed the mark on is that the oil companies are merely interested in this because it saves energy. Tell me, who has told you this? What tests have you done that have determined the only benefit here is energy saving? Oh, that's right. It's your interpretation of the data. Well I've spoken to pipeline engineers who interpret the data very differently from you. And, I can guarantee you the principal reason the oil companies are interested in the AOT is for viscosity reduction. I believe this to be an undisputed fact.
So, Sano, quit deflecting and answer my question. If you are as such, a self proclaimed expert in fluid control systems, tell me how much it will cost TransCanada to shut down the Keystone pipeline for one day? How about four days? I'm looking forward to your answer...
Actually Alkalinesolution1, they get paid on the commencement date, which is March 1, 2014. From the Contract:
"Lease payments shall commence on the Commencement Date and be made during both the Initial and Extended Terms of the Lease at the rate of $60,000 per month"
Good point Pie. Let the past remind everyone exactly where the cookie has crumbled. Most of those guys said this would never happen, let alone that the AOT would be going on the Keystone Pipeline, an enormous revenue source for a tier one oil company like TransCanada. One of the most prolific pipelines in the U.S. & Canada. Why not a feeder line? Or a much less valuable line? Because they want to use it on this specific pipeline and the oil that flows within it. TransCanada thinks the AOT is best placed on the Keystone, which will add to their top and bottom line.
Speaking of feeder lines, therein lies another opportunity for the 2nd iteration of the AOT. The Up-Stream AOT could be used near the well heads and between the well heads and the reservoir. So this one Mid-Stream is make it or break eh? So I suppose if we ever get an Up-Stream contract for a pilot program that will be make it or break too eh? This is no one trick pony, and those that would say it is are grossly underestimating the interest and applications of the AOT.
A great point by you J.T. PetroChina is yet another data point completely independent from STWA, and The Rocky Mountain Oil Field Testing Center, and Clarke Turner, Brian Haight, Wes Lintz, Wes Riesland, George Hughes, and Jeanette Buelt, and George Hughes and Wes Riesland RMOTC Field Engineers with The Department of Energy, and Temple University, and Dr. Tao, and The U.S. Navy, and oh yeah TransCanada, and oh The Pipeline Research Council International made up of the most powerful oil companies in the world.
A fabrication of my imagination you say? Not millions you say? Show you? Ok Sano I guess I'll prove to you AGAIN how wrong you are. If TransCanada are not investing millions in this then I challenge you to calculate exactly how much it costs them to shut down the pipeline for the time it will take to mount the AOT onto the Keystone Pipeline. Hell, I challenge you to calculate how much it will cost TransCanada to shut down that pipeline for ONE DAY. Umm, it's MILLIONS. I assure you. This figure proves you wrong right then and there. But wait, I'm not even including all of the cost TransCanada has incurred by devoting those 27 engineers and laborers to develop and complete the very first commercial AOT Mid-Stream. And from the SHM presentation, I can tell you that was no small feat. It took a long time and many engineers to do. And do they have to shut down the pipeline simply because management said so? Uh...no. That's a fact Jack. It's not hard to believe management when they are stating FACTS. And there's no walking any line to state a simple fact like that. I'm surprised at you Sano, you seem to catch the simple things most of the time. I guess you missed this little million dollar detail.
And what about Zinke? So you think the only reason the AOT is going on the Keystone Pipeline, and that TransCanada is investing millions is because Zinke asked them to? I'm sorry my friend, but no Company, I don't care how rich, loses out on selling millions of dollars of oil just because someone has asked a favor. Maybe he made an introduction, but rest assured, the decision to install the AOT on a such an important pipeline that generates millions (probably billions) of dollars of oil profits was TransCanada's and TransCanada's alone. So go on spouting about manipulated lab tests, tax credits and green pr. There's one reason and one reason alone any company would think it's worth it to miss out on millions of dollars of revenue; and that's because they believe running the AOT on their pipeline(s) will make them even MORE profits. And believe me, that $60,000 per month is simply the beginning. This first AOT is simply the tip of the iceberg, and the start of a powerful growth cycle that will last many, many years.
Exactly As I See It. Independent verified test results yet some still think everyone involved lied about everything even after a major billion dollar oil company has stretched out their hand and partnered with us. Honestly it's laughable. I don't know why I even bother replying. I guess it keeps it entertaining during the quiet times. Excellent job by you of digging up the test results. Bravo.
Come on Sano. Harping on about the same old BS for years, and this topic has been debated to death. The the 56% claim in viscosity reduction is simply a claim you choose not to believe. But I do. So, what do you know exactly compared to what TransCanada knows that already put millions of dollars & countless engineering hours on the line and will be paying $66,000 per month per unit starting in 3 weeks on March 1, 2014 ?? THEY certainly believe the test results out of Rocky Mountain, and have been willing to fork out Millions of cold hard cash and entered into a contract to spend more. If that isn't a statement directly about the test results and how much they believe in the technology then I don't know what is. You certainly haven't put one dime on the line to express your view. Excuse me if I take TransCanada's word over yours. Besides, I don't see what is not so "real-world" about the oil flow loop at Rocky Mountian. Real oil, real pipleline, real weather conditions, just scaled down. That's obviously enough real-world substantiation for TransCanada. Thus it is for me. TransCanada has spent all of that engineering time and money to enure the AOT is scaled up to handle the flow of the Keystone Pipeline. If you were at the shareholder's meeting you would have heard about all of the painstaking hours TransCanada Engineers spent on developing the AOT to handle the intense flow of the Keystone Pipeline. Why would they even bother to waste time and money if anything you say is accurate. To me, nothing you say is based in reality either.
Kudo's MentalFloss! Excellent points by you that may not be at the top of mind to many. It's always important to be reminded how this can go once the "snowball" gets rolling. I especially liked this one:
-TC can become a distributor for STWA: encouraging upstream operators of feederlines to install AOT (more oil moved, more revenue for everyone - extractors, TC, refiners, and STWA)
That's one thing I forgot about. This is a very important time indeed, and I have no doubt TransCanada will be very impressed with what the AOT can do. It has taken SO long to get to where we are today, and all of the testing and preparation that has been done in the past has prepared us for this moment. And also don't forget, if at anytime between now and then we get a contract for leases without a pilot program or outright sales of the the AOT from another pipeline operator or oil producer, that also completely accomplishes all of the positive things you listed as well.
THANK YOU As I See It and DPS, you both got to Sano's blatant inaccuracies before I could. The company has a great deal more money now than Sano lead us to believe. Oh, and about it being third quarter instead of second quarter that they would apparently run low on funds, as AISI pointed out that doesn't include the income from the lease which begins March 1, 2014. So by third quarter they will have an additional $420,000 from 7 months of the lease. Add that to the $8.1 million figure and you have $8,520,000m (roughly). That brings us into the 4Q. Now, do we think there will be any additional contracts between now and then? Personally I would think so. If your betting on STWA running out of money, I would say that will be a losing bet.
Whacky you are too funny. You crack me up! We really need you over here for some comic relief :)