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And now look at this:
http://209.85.135.104/search?q=cache:ug4-JFBFLPwJ:www.assindustriasr.it/telemacosr.nsf/9967ef863d666...
It says SEAL is looking for industrial partners in italy....
Sorry, this is NOT a reply to sippinpurp, but I don't know, how to send a message without replying to anyone...
Ok, but here is, what I've found after someone brought up the algerian company SAEL and Mr. Terki (I hope it works):
http://209.85.135.104/search?q=cache:Z8tYnDIRpPwJ:www.tursab.org.tr/content/turkish/haberler/bsk/06H...
If not, maybe this works:
http://www.tursab.org.tr/content/turkish/haberler/bsk/06Hab/06kaCezform.doc
Just a little "Sherlock Holmes"-Investigation, proofing that there was a conference in turkey in november ("kasim", don't speak turkish), where Terki from SAEL joined.
Hope, sentinel gets some answers today to his letter...glta
It's incredible...I get any shares I want.
Do you think I got "phantom shares" or real ones?
Hope my broker finds them...
No, I don't care that much about the ratio...
It's more a question of communication: If I'd put out a press release, I'd say the relevant things. And one of these would be the relationship between the two companies in terms of share distribution.
And if jerseyboy knew (assumed?) the ratio, ACMG probably would know too...
So maybe the reason the pr didn't go in further detail is not to unfold every piece of the puzzle right now.
Everything is speculation, not really important, because we will get the whole picture soon... just eleven days until the interview - and there might some other things happen in between.
GL
No, I relate to the point of share ratio between ACMG and the new co.
IF they distribute it like jerseyboy wrote, they could have written it in the pr.
OR: They don't want to tell everything to screw the shorts in the next steps...
GLTA (and for the list: gcduck now with 1.028.000 shares )
Thank you very much for your further information, but why didn't they write this in the pr today?
And why sould someone keep this shorting?
I added another 60K shares today - within seconds...
So WHO IS SELLING?
By the way: Good luck for your back surgery.
NO!!!
I'm waiting to get another 50k, to fill up my million...
As I said: I'll stay with the Dr. until 2010.
GLTA
If I were SIAM, I would buy 10-15mio shares as cheap as possible - and then start to bring this up, so that they only have one, two million shares left to bring it above 0,50 or higher.
Well, maybe that's part of the restruction of ACMG:
To get a new structure, which brings ACMG away from the pinks.
I agree, shareprice might come back in the next days.
The next pr will be important for the next step - and the interview on April, 2nd at mn1.com.
25mio shares with daytrading and profit taking?
I can't believe this.
Assuming no one from our list sold today, it would mean nearly the rest of the free float was traded.
???
I hate this money business...)
But why should they keep shorting it?
Can't imagine that most of these shares today were phantom shares.
Are they really that dumb and stupid?
By the way: Where is nlightn...?
@ezxccsc
I increased my shares with 100k.
Now 950k - and holding for very long and strong.
By the way: Is it just conicidence, that they buy 30mio and we here on investorshub hold 15mio??
)
ouch, I don't get any shares -whenever I put in a new limit, it escapes to higher grounds...)
Great deal for the Dr.!
I try to buy another 150k, but don't get any!!!
Where are the shares - who has them?
GLTA
I have asked Steven for more information about Mr. Terki/A-N Polymers today, hope he finds the time to give me an answer.
If not, maybe you could try as a representant of this board...
@sentinel
I tried to find some more information about Mr. M. Abbas Terki in the web, but couldn't.
There is a Mr. Terki from Geneva, but he seems to work in the molecular science business.
What I found though, Turkey is one of the most important producers of polymer products for the middle eastern area.
But nothing about the company and Mr. Terki.
Did you get any further informatione on that from Steven?
Here from July 2006-PR
"M. Abbas Terki, following his return from Turkey -- where he successfully negotiated a new polyester resin manufacturing facility to service the growing demand for the Middle Eastern Market -- has signed a second 5 year contract to secure the required raw materials supplies for its new facility from ACMG.
The second A-M Polymer facility planned in Turkey will come online next summer according to M. Terki and will require between 10,000 and 12,000 tons per annum of ethylene glycol and propylene glycol, the "green polyols" manufactured by ACMG. "M. Terki had made me part of his plans and I knew that A-M Polymer was in full expansion, especially with its recent homologations for construction and naval applications, but I didn't expect such an additional contract this fast," said Alexander Cavasin, CEO of Alcar Chemicals Group. "I will be meeting M. Terki next week in Geneva to propose a single contract to include supply scheduling for both facilities. The production of 20,000 tons annually will require three reactors, A-M polymer will have to work with us on a ramp-up schedule as to avoid any shortages; I agree it is a nice problem to have, nonetheless, it requires extra planning and additional funds to respond to the increased demand," further added Dr. Cavasin."
Ok, so we have to fix, who sells when...
I won't sell before 2009/2010, if ACMG develops only 30-40% according to their business plan.
I'm not sure, if shareprice rises that much the next two weeks.
I think, April 2nd could be more interesting, when the CEO gets interviewed on mn1.com. The statement of last pr said he will answer shareholder's questions at this date - shows me, that we won't get this information with the final agreement next week. IMHO.
Understood...
This will be very interesting (hope this is ONtopic):
We have a group here on investorshub of about 20 shareholders with more than 25% of the free float.
What will happen to the shareprice if we all start selling?
Let's hope they don't take it back on monday...
@tomstocks
I asked my bank here in germany several times to give me certificates, but they refused.
Any guess what to do?
I won't sell one share before 2009 - but it makes me sick that my shares are out in the market all this time...
Grrr...wanted some more @0,036 today, but my order didn't get filled.
But ok, I've got enough until 2010.
Did anybody think about what ACMG and the investors expect for the shareprice at 2010 if the warrants are priced 10$? One would think much more than the warrant price of 10$ - or am I wrong?
Anyway, I will wait for that...
Hope the final agreement is on its way without delay - glta!
Could anyone explain, why the volume is that high, but shareprice isn't rising?
Is this shorting we see?
Or do you think these are REAL shares sold and bought?
Anyaway it would be perfect if ACMG could surprise the market with the final agreement BEFORE the planned date.
GLTA
Could you please explain "carpet bombing"?
Sounds like war...
I'm really wondering, how many ACMG shares people alone on this board own (my position is 850k), could it be nearly 20% of the free float?
I do not believe we had REAL nine mio shares traded today...
Does anyone have a guess, what ACMG could do to prevent further manipulation - besides taking the stock off the exchange?
GLTA and good night from europe
Sorry, my limit was @0,038 not 0,037...
These 115.000 were mine!
Ups, got them nearly now @0,037.
Never thought I would get this opportunity to add more shares at these prices.
I didn't get my order filed at 0,036 and 0,038.
Question are there really shares out there for these prices?
I keep adding, when they let me...
Don't you see, how you loose more and more credibility?
Compare ACMG with ECFL? Puh...
You want the BHL/ACMG-communication .pdf-proofed? Have you ever been in any business?
The only point you stupidly repeat is: "This is pinkyland, this is pinkyland..."
We all know, that the technology of ACMG has to been proofed - this will be done in the BHL environment and as sentinel stated: if BHL will sign a license agreement, it shows the proof of concept.
Please show us regarding all the press releases of the last year until now and the personal email communication some of us had with Mr. Cavasin and Steven from the IR, where you find any evidence of ACMG lying.
If you can deliver just one point I'll accept it and change my opinion.
It's your turn.
I thought of this, too.
Why couldn't we count all our shares (from those who consider to be long on ACMG) together?
I own 700.000 shares today (might add some more, if it stays at this level).
So I think it's as jerseyboy said: The "ihub-group" owns several millions shares.
@sentinel
Well, I've been very pleased about this information and bought another 100k today...
But to show this delight in the public could have caused some bad comments here in the board, you know typical pinkyland behaviour etc...
My bank told me, they are not able to certify my ACMG shares...
Do you think, this could be a problem of being a german bank?
However I will put all my shares for sale at a price of 10$ each - don't think they will get to this that soon).
As I know shares, which are for sale, CANNOT be used for short sells - is this correct?
GLTA
I've mailed my bank here in Germany - can't wait for their answer, how they want to certify my shares.
GLTA
Great Post!!!!
GLTY
Where are all these guys, who were so sure about Mr. Cavasin was lying?
Or is this again typical pinkland, because Mr. "real truth-007" will probably find a cleaning woman at Bajaj, who is not informed about this press release and denies any relationship to ACMG?
EOM.
I have sent this link to Mr. Cavasin today:
http://www.businessjive.com/nss/darkside.html
and got a fast and very short answer from Steven Sung: "Thank you."
I hope they read and hear it.
GLTA
Hi Sentinel,
thank you very much for your efforts. It strengenths my feelings about Mr. Cavasin - he is a dedicated scientist, a researcher, he is not a smart business guy, who knows how to make fast money.
But I wouldn't wonder if there came some idiots pointing to this letter and yelling "He's just pretending! He does a little dumb, but indeed he's a shark!!!"
I hate it - the tone of the mail and the ways Mr. Cavasin answers were exactly the reason I started to buy ACMG (BESIDES the regular DD everyone should do in Pinkyland).
And this sentences from Mr. Cavasin represent the same feelings I had some days ago figuring out I would start a new company in the US:
"To be honest and blatantly frank with you, I would never again take a project public through a reverse merger with a pinksheet shell. The time and money initially saved do not justify the additional costs and time consuming hurdles encountered later on. It has been quite an experience to bring this project to this point where we can now state: “we’re finally there, and still on track” … a miracle really, because we embarked onto the pinksheet path."
Sorry to say this - but I found it disgraceful to be part of a group of shareholders, whose only goals were discrediting a person and his company. OF COURSE! All in the name of real DD, in the name of truth!
GLTA longs
Did anyone see what ECFL did the last weeks?
And does anyone think, ACMG does the same with us?
It's all about trust now (because I assume everyone did his DD)
GLTA
@tomstocks
I believe you have been involved a lot in private deals etc., but then you should know how difficult it is for a new company to get a substantial financing.
I did some consulting for an online travel company, who developed a revolutionary technology over the last three years. I'm "a little bit" experienced in internet and ebusiness, so I think I can proof that their technology is really outstanding.
And though the CEO is from the US and very experienced guy in this business, he only could raise money from friends and friends of the friends.
Now they start their business in Germany and are looking for investors in Germany and Europe.
Have you ever been on the other side "begging" for money from investors?
On the one hand you have to develop your company to improve your technology, products etc. - on the other hand you have to bring up new money to finance the daily costs.
Of course you know that it's not like walking in an investor's office, going directly to the chief, showing your business plan and he gives you a cheque.
No, in reality , you are a very lucky guy if someone gives you 15min time to present your idea.
I agree that ACMG has to give more information to the investors, but one thing is for sure: investors never want to be in the public.
GLTA