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I believe the vast majority here are familiar with tikilive. Sorry if you were not. But no, I don't think people discussing right now recognize the difference in the tech, nor am I qualified to explain it beyond what I've already attempted to do in regards to the advertising. Nor am I necessarily even right. But none of this is a revelation to me, or anyone that's been here since the early summer.
Not really. Eye Partner is just tiki live. I think it may be as simple as a name change, possibly a more complicated merge or "evolution of focus" that I didn't look into.
But eyepartner and tiki are both founded by Tim green. And this is eye partners last tweet in March 2016
"We will be discontinuing this account by the end of the week. Keep your eye on us @TikiLIVE"
My baseline assumption is 150m converted to get us to 700m total. And q1 Could be about 850m based on conversions alone.
Based on the trading, there is a chance they paid additional cash in Nov and Dec. It would be nice if they did that. That could hopefully bring the outstanding balance clearly below the max figure to avoid any doubt.
I would think that only leaves about March left after that in q2 to 900m. So probably 2 months away
Fingers crossed.
Then we move without daily sell pressure to a more appropriate market cap. Which would include a notably higher price per share than we have now, even at 900m shares.
And the tiki guy joins the board and gives public comment on the integrating of technologies for every white label? C'mon now.
Tiki is more or less our "subscriber platform" ... but selling to subscribers are listed 2nd on the business plan behind selling advertising.... this front end, helps the back end work it's magic.
I still don't think it's "them". And those I think are doing it, are intentionally trying to smother it... so they definitely will not let it breath.
1 tick gets a 10% gain on a flip near 10, and 5% near 20. Those keeping it down (with 10m+ on the bid and ask) have no interest it running to 2 and cutting their profits in half.
We wait until we kick the door down. And waiting is always a slow bleed. But waiting around at 15 or 09 doesn't change a thing towards the inevitable run. If you can time hopping out and in go for it, but many who hop out will be left on the sidelines. I wont be one.
Same front end.
So you are looking for a 30% haircut to buy tomorrow morning?
Bad luck with that.
I'm adding little more than paint action these days.
I thought I saw a chance to take out an ask, so I shot a shot.
But for now I'm really just a cheerleader.
Holding millions, so if I was empty handed I'd be buying millions but I'm not... Still jealous of everyone that got to buy sub penny while I just watched.
Just the fact that more of you are here wondering with us, shows me it is becoming less hidden. It's hopefully just the tip of the iceberg.
Mr. Tim Green, TikiLIVE Founder and CEO commented, "Viva and TikiLIVE is a combined effort that has made our expansion a moving force. The marketing, distribution and service offerings will greatly enhance an already robust Viva package. Our technology team has already begun implementation into the Viva platform and we expect to be ready shortly. We're excited to be a part of this great business and profitable looking venture which makes Viva one of the hand full of companies in the county to carry premium channels. The consumer is taking part in shaping the industry. "I can proudly say we are ready for it"
- he's just integrating his wholly owned product with nothing and excited for it. LOL
- Front end / back end. They have some channels and a user interface. We have the ability to layer in direct advertising via automated API calls.
It doesn't. But this book isn't written. Pretty stupid to get shaken out prior to a run when there are flashing neon lights pointing to manipulation.
Scared money don't make money.
(Also doesn't lose - but my motto is "go big or go homeless")
These all go our way this time, worth a read.
That's been my thoughts all year.
The closest thing to a catch is the daily sell pressure from conversions. But those are nearing complete (q2 latest, and we are more than half way through Q1)
And once any hint of that disappears, hopefully we correct. As you note, way underpriced at 900m shares.
Late Jan 2017... meaning in the 20s.
Not meaning not submitted in time.
To clarify
I'd expect 1 of the 2.
It was late Jan 2017
Current price above the ask... looking to paint but may not for that reason
I bought 10k at .0138 followed by a jerk insisting to sell at .0133
My hope is it is somewhere between here and Feb 1
Everyone was complaining what is different that date from now. But that could be it. Hopefully get on the scene in our final form.
I've been here for a year on the logic our market cap is too small, and keep asking that same question.
Just gonna keep hoping "soon"
That is true. And that is the point.
And the manipulators are here taunting us over it.
Another 100k at 140 now
28k at 134
Then 74k and 10k at 140
Don't know how to post photos
If they did nothing with it, then they also havent used the line.
There was a weird line break before the word shares, so I could see the confusion.
Alright, alright.
Let's do it
CEO does not get money from the business. Just shares. Inaccurate base assumption.
Johnny is paid in shares. Your secret plan would lose him money, he's not doing it
1.3B is fake news.
A random placeholder calc that means nothing.
And the 500m shares gives flexibility for deals, and getting employees to work for shares instead of cash (avoiding use of ignition)
Probably sold from the left hand to the right hand of someone trying to force this down.
Glad to be too busy to pay attention today
Same guy has a 13m bid...
And same guy will probably come here and cry dilution to scare your shares into his bid
Gotta get Melanie Griffith too... America's power couple... ROTFLMAO
No. I mean paying someone for a service.
He is not selling millions of shares to give Guzman thousands of dollars. He is giving Guzman millions of shares to make millions of dollars.
That is what it means. But I think it only applies to margin accounts as opposed to cash accounts. And I can't explain any of it. But yes.
We are on the tail end of convertible notes hitting the market. Everybody apparently avoided the sell pressure by not coming in for most of the year.
But our market cap to income statement just makes no sense at all. It has to go up.
Do your analysis based on 900m shares, still way undervalued.
Odd, ended green... seems like a naked short had to buy back in at end of day because nobody was scared out by their move.
You are the man. Thanks.
This was in my post a while back that I meant to update comparing the two.
"The market must know this because it's from both companies financials" but at the same time, individuals in the market don't really notice us.
It was something like last 9 months, their revenue was triple ours, but the margin was only double ours. Due to our higher margin %.
And if we could possibly double our revenue to pull margin even, then our income blows theirs away with lower OH.