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Malcolm Philips said the exact same thing, apparently that's what scam artists say.
I don't think anyone trusts CDEx anymore and they're not willing to put their professional reputation on the line endorsing the unknown, especially something fron CDEx.
Where are the current endorsements for the iG4? What reputable person can say that they've seen it operate as advertised. (not you penny, you lie)
CDEx allegedly doesn't even return phone calls to those that are interested in performing 3rd party, independent testing!
Why is the iG4 so TOP-SECRET?
Does it really work as advertised?
What's the problem, is a cheap U-Tube video the only glimpse one can get of the iG4?
Hogus-pocus.
Jeff Brumfield, CEO of CDEx, is telling tale tales with the pocket meth scanner just like he has done repeatedly with the G4. How many times can ones expectations be 100% wrong?
" We expect the first production of the Pocket ID2 to begin in December 2010."
At least he's consisted, 100% dead wrong every single time!
I wonder if his bad judgement is a least helping close PP sales?
If he's knowingly lying to close PP sales, wouldn't that be just like how the CDEx scam operates?
Yes it would.
Hey pennstreet, you are correct, this is nothing more than the same old Loch/CDEx scam- phase III!
The same ole "scamster stuff" as pennstreet says.
I believe the G4 is not currently available and is, in fact, still under development, especially the multi-component analysis feature that CDEx has advertised since day one.
I believe we will see a downgraded version with many limitations if they are ever actually produced for hospital use.
Since CDEx has evidently ignored independent testing I believe there is much more development required before any product will be avaliable.
I further believe that CDEx continues to be the same SCAM as pennstreet has admitted to it always being.
If the CEO of CDEx is still working on his GED wouldn't that make him a high school dropout, unless of course, he never attended high school at all.
No wonder pennstreet always announces that he filed on time, that's the only thing he's got going for him. And he doesn't even do it, the CFO does!
OK, I'll give Jeff a call in Ramona, CA and tell him that pennstreet wants to make independent testing of the G4 happen! LOL
Once he has your approval, the only thing he needs to do is get back out to Tucson, pick up the phone and have the common courtesy to return the phone message left weeks ago.
Poteet will need to be involved too, so you all will need to get him back in the shop as well.
Of course, if all that happens, then they'll need to build something that works beyond a trade show rigged demo.
Kapeesh?
Crow, I emailed you my communications with the person wishing to test the G4, a person that pennstreet thinks doesn't exist.
And I should clarify, this person wasn't looking 'for a demo', he wanted to TEST the G4 and see if it actually worked.
Maybe that's why CDEx never returned his call, they'll give a demo, but they don't want anyone getting near the thing!
"But one only has to look back a day or two to see the lie that was typed concerning a company who called and left a message that supposedly asked for a demo.
I simply asked for the name of the company and a contact person, and of course, no such company or person exist. lol"
What I stated is the absolute truth, the contact person told me in an email that he had called CDEx two weeks earlier and left a message, but never received the courtesy of a return call. He said that until tested the G4 is nothing more than "VAPORWARE"
Once again, pennstreet is flat out lying in an attempt to cover yet another dirty little secret about the CDEx SCAM.
And if pennstreet wants the name of the person I suggest that he simply gives CDEx a call and asks. Gee... imagine that, just give them a call and ask! LOL
I can futher support that by saying CDEx had the opportunity to have an organization test the G4, but when CDEx was contacted concerning testing there was no at CDEx to answer the phone- not even call forwarding.
A message was left on an answering machine, but CDEx never even had the courtesy to return their phone call.
I believe they'll 'place' one, even if it's out of desperation.
It won't be what they've advertised though, in fact, they've already stated the multi-component analysis feature won't be available for a while. Without that it's just a Valimed that doen't use cuvettes. Same niche, same limited market, just more expensive to make and use with limited signatures.
BTW, I believe the story told about the G4 CDEx shipped over a year ago supposedly to be used for multi-component drug concentration analysis was a big, fat, hairy lie.
They'd better have the G4 ready for delivery to customers at the ASHP show otherwise they're going to have canceled contracts and no one will take them seriously anymore- not that they do now.
Like the other Valimeds, no one is going to buy these things, they'll be pay-per-use transactions except without the on going cuvette sales.
Still a highly niche market for compounded, high-risk, liquid meds.
Nothing much has changed except that they won't be selling cuvettes.
LOL! Can you show us a more recent quote capnmike, not something that's 8 YEARS OLD which was back when everyone was excited about Valimed based on CDEx lies.
That quote was before Valimed became a failed product!
What about now. I wonder what Dr. Stevenson has to say about the G4 after seeing it perform magic. Does he have any recent comments after personally using the G4? Does he have any comments that are not based on lies that CDEx may have told him?
The loch/CDEx scam certainly has a rich history of smooth talking con artists in the game of defrauding PP investors IMO.
And when a scam gets as desperate as CDEx became back in 2010, both their lies and huevos got inflated out of control.
The 'Dream Machine' is the result. A machine that has been advertised beyond its capability just like every other failed Loch/CDEx product!
"But I did nitpick one thing that may be a hint of what the OIL PATCH boys may be looking for. They claim G4 to be able to do blood, urine and other bodily fluid tests. That fits in to the GUDE DOCS Testing lab Bidness."
Bodily fluid testing using Raman spectroscopy is already patented technology.
Crow, no doubt someone asked, "well what if it's the right med, the right concentration, but it's the wrong size bag, how's your machine going to know not to validate it?"
Eureka! they put a weight measuring scale in the machine!
"Just one on the many features of the 'Dream Machine'."
"Guaranteed to please all PP investors- sorry no refunds."
"Atomic constituents are also possibly individually identified by performing a software de-convolution of the features measured in the complex spectrum of the multi-constituent sample. An example of this is a total parenteral nutrition (TPN) mixture used in the medical field which may contain potassium, sodium, and other nutritional ingredients."
Identify atoms of sodium or potassium... Bwahahaha!!! In this context 'possibly' means it will never, ever be capable of doing so. It'll never happen. Ever. LOL!
I'll have to admit though, the patent application makes a real good sales pitch. They've got the 'Dream Machine' capable of doing just about everything anyone would desire.
Pennstreet is right, it appears they have talked to people asking them what they'd like the machine to do!
"Everything, we want the machine to do EVERYTHING!"
Has the "Great Expector Brumfield" came up with a new "expectation date" for the launch of the G4 yet or is he to embarrassed to open his mouth again?
Yet the SCAMSTERS are trying to pull off another dupe job.
They got themselves another Dream Machine concept with ole Wade Poteet once again trying to pull some hogus-pocus to produce a magical new product that will never work as advertised.
Just like every other product they've used to rake in the PP dollars.
"...Ya kidding right, and all dat bragging about da fly on the wall..."
Yet another completely incorrect and worthless post. Please re-post where I mentioned about a fly on the wall, less bragged about it. LOL You can't, it doesn't exist.
Get it together pennstreet.
Don't lie, you are not very good at it.
Can someone tell me how many CDEX G4's have been sold or leased since their CEO, Jeff Brumfield announced the launch of commercial production back in 2011?
I know that virtually everyone believes CDEx continues to be the same scam as it has proven to be in the past. Is this true?
It is por mi.
I would imagine on any given day there's not more than 2-3 people at the Tucson shop.
They probably have junior answering the phones full time and 1-2 of the development team working. Poteet has another job allegedly keeping him busy on a major telescope project so we know he's not always at the shop if that's true.
What could Brumfield possibly be doing all day long? I think playing a round of golf in the morning and maybe dropping by the office in the afternoon sounds about right.
As for the CFO, there's not enough work to occupy his time more than a few hours a week IMO.
Seems like CDEx, with their small shop and skeleton crew is highly unlikey to make history with a magical new machine as pennstreet portrays.
Amantia, while some of your points are solid facts based on bogus CDEx PR's, some are based on hearsay and opinon, notably those of pennstreet.
Specifically, we have no idea if the iG4 has been certified. If it has, it's more than likely by the manufacturer of the Raman Spectrometer, not CDEx. And if that's the case, would the needed modifications to the unit require recertification- I would think so.
The only person that believes the iG4 is mythical and historical is silly Pennstreet, a de facto CDEx spokesperson whose 100% unreliable testimony is not worthy of consideration.
As far as schedules, there's NEVER been one, only a 350k/year CEO's false expectations. Repeatedly.
You've been at the cantina too long pennstreet, give it a rest.
You're babbling like a CDEx press release.
"CDEX has not left anything to wonder about. False prs. and pumped up statements that have proved nothing in the product line. Or a launch into any market that has been profitable and those are facts."
dw88in, gotta diagree with you on that last statement. CDEx has done very well in lining their pockets by selling PP's to uninformed investors. That's their number one product- a undisputable FACT!
There's always a scam artists separating honest folks from their money.
It's a real shame.
Yet he comes off as being the CDEx de facto spokesperson. I say 'spokesperson' and not spokesmen because others post under the pennstreet alias including Ms. Pennstreet. A simple fact.
I believe that pennstreet was responsible for bringing in the Lubbock oil patch investors. No doubt he pitched the mythical Dream Machine which would soon alter the history of humanity.
The illusive iG4 which was 'expected' to go into commercial production years ago! One has to wonder how all those false expectations influenced investment decisions.
Of course we know if they every "place" one into the market today, it will be a lessor version, not one with the performance 'dream' specifications as originally advertised.
That's a given, or as pennstreet likes to say, "a simple fact."
"One must no the facts and understand clearly, that Mr. Brumfield "did not" approach PP investors, they approached him."
What JB did is repeatedly publish his false expectations which no doubt primed the PP waters for the hawks... or should I say for the sharks to feed.
By the time a PP investors meets JB, no doubt the deal is already done.
How can CDEx have any type of firm hospital contract for the iG4 years before they've ever built one?
The only hospital contracts that I believe CDEx has are verbal and they go something like this, "Sure, if your new Valimed can do all those things that you're advertising of course we want one."
But I'm with you Crow, I believe there's no possible way Wade Poteet, Chief Scientist at CDEx, is going to be able to make the iG4 work as they've advertised at the ASHP shows and pitched to uninformed PP investors.
As I've already opined, any iG4 which they finally release to market will be a serious downgrade from their 'Dream Machine' version which they originally advertised. I'll bet my bottom dollar on that!
As an analog, if I advertised a 'Dream Machine' (which of course, spins straw into gold) I'd have plenty of contracts before I ever attempted to build one. Those are the kind of contracts I believe CDEx is ADVERTISING!
'Dream Machine' contracts.
johnreiner, you're a real classy guy, maybe you should be working for CDEx, you'd fit in perfectly.
Pennstreet, say what? At the end of the year?
"Mr. Brumfield said there was an "expectation" to be placing G4's, from the contracts from the 2011 show. There were contracts generated just as the PRESS RELEASE stated. A simple fact. The expectation was to be at year end 2012."
From the 2011 ASHP press release:
The ASHP conference, December 4-8, 2011. The ValiMed(TM) G4 will be showcased at booth 247 at the conference.
"With the recent launch and commercial production of our ValiMed(TM) G4 system, we are excited to showcase the system at the ASHP Midyear conference, where a national and international audience of industry professionals will witness the power of our technology. We are the first to commercialize an affordable advanced measuring system, with multi-component capabilities that will enhance and improve the quality of care that pharmacies and clinical professionals provide. The conference should provide an optimum platform for our ValiMed G4 to gain market penetration and build industry buzz for our system. We expect to deliver several units over the next six months as the market interest continues to spread for the VG4, stated Jeff Brumfield, chairman and chief executive officer of CDEX.
Brumfield's expectation deadline was by the end of June, 2011, not the end of the year. The end of the year was yet another Brumfield expectation. LOL!
I'll be the first to admit, it's easy to get confused with all the "expectations" that Brumfield has been doing the last couple of years, but I wouldn't count on investors believing him any more.
OT: Hey Crow, happy b-day my friend!
The ASHP conference, December 4-8, 2011. The ValiMed(TM) G4 will be showcased at booth 247 at the conference.
"With the recent launch and commercial production of our ValiMed(TM) G4 system, we are excited to showcase the system at the ASHP Midyear conference, where a national and international audience of industry professionals will witness the power of our technology. We are the first to commercialize an affordable advanced measuring system, with multi-component capabilities that will enhance and improve the quality of care that pharmacies and clinical professionals provide. The conference should provide an optimum platform for our ValiMed G4 to gain market penetration and build industry buzz for our system. We expect to deliver several units over the next six months as the market interest continues to spread for the VG4, stated Jeff Brumfield, chairman and chief executive officer of CDEX.
Jeff Brumfield's expectation appears to be orientated more toward sucking in PP investors than actually selling anything!
After his first expectation of the next six months was not even in the ball park, why does he keep humiliating himself with further failed "expectations"?
Has he no business sense?
When does one learn their lesson before they lose all credibilty with shareholders, PP investors and the whole ASHP organization?
Something is wrong with the bid/ask, .00001/.40, that's crazy!
Edit- looks like it went back to normal before my edit time ran out.
dw88in, pennstreet knows quite well that no one believes his BS. Why does he continue to keep pecking at his keyboard so much? He's probably trying to keep PP investors believing in his rose garden version of CDEx.
Ah well, they can believe what they want, but as we know all to well, the truth will eventually come out as it always has.
Pennstreet, I've been informed that you're a CDEx insider and promoter. No wonder you attempt to cover-up every negative comment made about CDEx. Your bias makes you totally incapable of admitting the truth which is very obvious to readers!
Your reply to my last post suggesting that Poteet had nothing to do with the past failures of CDEx products makes my point loud and clear. Do you actually think anyones believes you?
Almost every single poster on this board is posting the truth based on PR's published by CDEx and past history. It's virtually impossible to find a single positive thing to say when one reviews the facts. The business conduct of CDEx produces more scandle than you can shake a stick at!
And speaking of your description of finger pecking on key boards, your fingers peck more than anyone elses.
If CDEx is destroyed, it will be by their own malicious doing, not by the opinion of posters on this board.
Stop ignoring the facts when they don't meet your agenda pennyhopper! It's funny when you have no way of handling the truth! LOL!
Just a very, very obvious fact. You left out Poteet's name! LOL!
CDEx Shareholders have the right to know that Poteet has been a major participant in every FAILED CDEX PRODUCT!
Stop trying to protect the man and be truthful, shareholders can see right thru your BS.
"I have no idea what your educational back ground is, but I will stand by what I said before. The G4 is not like the other products that were tooled and R&Ded under Mp and Ts, and ryles."
You failed to name the Chief Scientist and technical ring leader of the CDEx Scam, Wade Poteet, responsible for every failed CDEx product used to rake in money from the unfortunate PP suckers.
Just a small oversight on your part I'm sure! LOL
"Any guesses who I'm talking about?"
OH, OOOOH, pick me, I know who you're talking about!
Is it the Motorola Razr Man?
Yes it is. It's the same CDEx Scam as before, same promoters, same tactics, same lies...
... if you ask me.