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Stock twits as you can talk smack and watch the price (although it's delayed)
Sometimes his posts sound eerily similar to carboys. What a circus this place is. Pool boys and pool toys.
Esad isn't fooling me. He's irrational cause he's got an agenda. Bumbling from blank point to blank point.
It's more fact that can't really be fabricated. We have X amount of cash. Historically burn X amount of cash...
Haven't had a chance to read the transcript for the CC yet eh?
Chess not checkers Grape. We will have our day. It just may not be till 2018 lol. Nothin to do but laugh man. I know my $$$$ is safe here.
Lol you think 3.50 is my break even price!? Lol
What clown factory did you come out of bright stuff?
No actual Pfizer person called in. Question was too dumb anyways
I'm a looney tune I know I know...
But me thinks magic was a test brand in Europe that big T watched closer than we all think.
Magic didn't sell as it was in the stores in Europe...now the rules change to something where a VLN would be even MORE in the spotlight once approved...
Perhaps this is more to their benefit...big T I mean. IMO, while it does delay what xxii wanted to do in UK, this should give them a firmer position and need for their product.
Agreed...but they can't finagle the rev numbers anymore.
Heat not burn is my focus. That's where big Ts focus is. BAT chance to license ends October 1
I'm gonna say I'm from PM next time I call in...
If they say RJRs Vapor tech is worth $10B. I wonder what our High Nicotine is projected to be worth.
FYI -- RJRs patented tech learns how the user draws from the vapor device.
Esad did you listen to the call? Still think the tobacco part of XXII is dead? Lol
BAT gonna commercialize.
"The tobacco companies want the highest nicotine possible for heat not burn"
Henry just confirmed its an exclusive license with BAT. Just like we said weeks ago. Listen to the ppl who know what they are talking about and ignore the ignorant...
Who cares!? We all knew and know what they are currently doing with magic an red sun won't cut it. It wasn't ever supposed to. The numbers can't be finagled to show an increase in revs Yr/Yr next year. They actually have to deliver.
And yeah the board clown is right...September is my cut off date. Hey clown...I pay off my $400k house regardless of what xxii does. While you live paycheck to paycheck hoping and praying DSNY and ANY come back from deep help. Lol you are still even underwater on your XXII short in the .80s from August!! Dude...do you ever win at anything?
I think anyone that had done the reading and DD that we have, they will get it.
Just no way for us to know when.
Good -- thought when I did the math the 16th was the deadline.
Still believe in the tobacco tech gilbe?
;)
Oh this thing has at least another $2.50 in it. I wouldn't say that...
I will be right, I just don't know when.
Lol I read the first sentence then didn't bother reading the rest of what you wrote. There hasn't been any studies????!?
There's been multiple multiple multiple studies. All show the same thing. It's effective...for the short term at least. In any of the multiple phase 2 and 3 trials, it has shown to be a little better than the patch or gum.
That's fact that can be easily looked up...
"If PM makes a VLN Malrboro, PM will lose a lot of volume"
Please show me a study that shows VLN caused massive and SUSTAINED quitting.
I'll save you some time...You can't.
What you can find, I bet, is that smokers liked the IDEA of a VLN cig, stayed with it for a bit, then went back or supplemented with conventional Cig's while using the VLN.
Ppl smoke for the nicotine. A VLN is not satisfying. That doesn't mean you can't make $$ off it though!
My contention would be your giving X22 the credit of a silver bullet and there's several studies showing its just... mmmmm slightly better than patch and gum. But hey calling it "the best option" may not hoodwinking anyone.
Question...Who owns Zonnic gum?
For the people who truly want to quit and have the willpower/focus, I have a feeling X22 would be a great option.
Again though, I think X22 is used for leverage. Big T submitting to carrying a VLN in each major brand would be a good compromise to keep X22 out.
I guess my point is, yes xxii products can be somewhat harmful to Big T business, but it could just as easily help them too.
Yes and some other little benefits to being accepted fast track.
Yeah but they are stating the new mrtp will be more robust
Still some unknowns based on the below but agree with you. I still think they'd probably get some kind of verbal guidance for how to obtain it.
From FDA website:
"Fast Track designation must be requested by the drug company. The request can be initiated at any time during the drug development process. FDA will review the request and make a decision within sixty days based on whether the drug fills an unmet medical need in a serious condition.
Once a drug receives Fast Track designation, early and frequent communication between the FDA and a drug company is encouraged throughout the entire drug development and review process. The frequency of communication assures that questions and issues are resolved quickly, often leading to earlier drug approval and access by patients."
I read the PR a couple of times, but it sounds like they will get some kind of approval for Fast Track in June.
How do you continuously ignore the pages and pages of documentation that clearly shows big tobacco could and would use a VLN with a modified label? How does one ignore the fact that people use tobacco for the nicotine and xxii has the ability to control the distribution of the product that drives tobacco companies sales?
We have proven that BAT has exclusivity to XXIIs main patents which include VLN and VHN tech. To me Henry can't do anything until BATs time runs out. Why doesn't Henry just say that then? Wouldn't that be revealing too much info? Showing the cards?
I'm sticking to all my research and knowledge which tells me the tobacco tech is wanted by the big guys and is not irrelevant.
If I didn't know any better i may start wondering if your purposefully trying to scare ppl out of their shares. There's absolutely no hard facts to what you have been posting regarding the tobacco tech. There is however plenty of facts that seem to hold in favor of the tobacco tech.
If I'm wrong I'll admit with my tail between my legs. I don't think I will be tho.
Most here are long term holders. Who cares about 6 pennies. We can go back to this convo again. Lunch $$
I'll keep my huge bet on what I personally deem a low risk investment. Pull the slot lever all you want and cache me owside haw bawt dat.
The huge takeaway I see right there is this:
"Fighting recreational marijuana may prove to be an unpopular move. A Quinnipiac University poll released on Thursday indicates that 59% of voters think marijuana should be legalized, with 76% of 18-34 year-olds in favor of legalization."
That poll is correct. Fight it for 4 years for what reason? Why fight the inevitable? Look where the voter base is going. Work to put guardrails around it sure, but it would be wasting resources to fight it. I don't see them doing anything. If they do it will be to kick the lil guys out.
I believe it's 1mg not gram
The HNB portion... Nobody needs to be an expert to see their tech would be beneficial to HNB. Or a cig for that matter. Less leaf needed for the 1 gram of nicotine people crave. Think of the possibilities and potential.
Weed is tobacco's endgame. Tobacco can solve the problem for regulators. Give tobacco the weed market and put in place the rigorous oversight of the tobacco industry into the weed market. Uncle Sam gets his tax money and knows what's out in the market, Tobacco gets its revenues, the people get weed. Everyone wins.
Agreed. One of the best articles written since I have been long here. No BS. Sooo over 3 yrs.
Blows BioNaps out of he water IMO.
https://www.google.com/amp/seekingalpha.com/amp/article/4048213-22nd-century-group-big-trouble-big-tobacco-big-falling-behind
Make sure to read this
I don't agree. High Nicotine Tobacco will be wanted for heat not burn. Look at PM and BAT and JTI. All in a huge race to have the best heat not burn. You're a smart dude, surely you can imagine the benefits in a high nicotine leaf in a heat not burn product
"22nd century is the only company who can use yeast, tobacco, or other plant species for the large scale production of medically important Cannabinoids". Bullish
As said before...xxii can be used to Big Ts advantage. Just talking with someone about how there would be a market for VLN blunts