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This should be at .008+ on this news.
IMO
Today we all make $100,000
well, some of us who are LONG
Quarter Date EPS Consensus Forecast
Sep 14 11/12 ***** -0.03 ***
Jun 14 08/14 -0.04 -0.04 Met
Mar 14 05/14 -0.06 -0.05 Miss -0.01
Dec 13 03/13 -0.08 -0.08 Met
Sep 13 11/14 -0.09 -0.08 Miss -0.01
next thursday
Here comes 11.00
green day
I bought 3 more shares.
is that sarcasm?
good job!
It is the county permit. Would you rather it be denied? sheesh!
Looks like Humboldt County approved Winnemucca mill for Antimony processing
1.00+
Close above for the delisting clock reset
thanks for the post
"The federal government is in the middle in this case, agreeing with Teva that the Federal Circuit should show more respect for a district trial judge’s factual conclusions, but agreeing with the generics that, in the end, the courts probably are going to be led to the conclusion that Teva is not entitled to a patent on its Copaxone medicine for multiple sclerosis patients."
Note too that...
"The high court’s interest in patent cases has been linked to divisions among judges on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit, which handles all patent appeals.
The high court reversed the appeals court in five of the six patent cases it heard last term.
The Teva case could have broad ramifications in the patent world because it addresses how much leeway the appeals court has to second-guess district court judges."
Patents are getting a raw deal all around when compared to the copyright on music. Life of the artist + 70 years.
But, I say, wouldn't putting those notes and beats and words in that order be common sense?
Clap along if you feel like happiness is the truth ...
Isn't "Happy Birthday" OBVIOUS? (copyright doesn't expire until at least 2030)
When you insert the birthday person's name in the song isn't that like the generic equivalent of a 4 billion dollar drug?
Ugh!!!
I did, but it could never happen that fast.
The race is on...
ZTE SETTLES!! vs EN BANC GRANTED!!
Teva SCOTUS case very important in the IP realm
Teva says in its argument, “Patents are not written primarily to be read by judges and lawyers. Rather, they are scientific texts designed to be read and used by specialists in the relevant field. Judges often need to take factual evidence, such as expert testimony, to enable them to understand patent claims.”
It is Obvious! and we hold that no reasonable jury could conclude otherwise!
good points
I would say the diluted 52 week high is .06, but like you said we got there with nothing substantive.
I would hope with solid news we bust right through .06 and find a solid foundation.
What would they have to do to get this to .10 PPS ?
$5,000,000 quarterly revenues ?
Hope everyone has averaged down because it is time to blast off
Burn shorty and flippy!
We should hit .01 with the mill
on the way to .05 once production starts
This is true
Thanks PLUG, et al!
NASDAQ down 2.33%
My portfolio down 0.1%
A "hearing en banc" would be requesting that the case be heard before 'all' the judges first time through
A "rehearing en banc" is when the 3-judge panel (in this case)heard the appeal and a rehearing is requested with 'all' the judges
thanks JJ
A lot in there I need a flowchart to digest this LOL
This would be a "2. Petitions for rehearing en banc" right?
If you take the 2-1 judges out of the equation you would need
8-6 in favor of VRNG to get a 9-8 win, so it is close to a 50-50 chance ~42%.
Although, I think Chen is on top of this case with his past patent experience. I don't know what the other 14 judges have in their heads. I doubt they have Chen's head on their shoulders, so the chance might be less than 40%
I dunno
All the same players ... thought this might be relevant
but it is just Android related ...
Federal cuircuits disposition sheet
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 9, 2014
11:00 A.M.
(No Opinions)
OTHER ACTIONS
2014-147, IN RE GOOGLE INC., ET AL.
2014-148, IN RE HTC CORPORATION, ET AL.
2014-149, IN RE ASUSTEK COMPUTER, INC., ET AL.
2014-150 IN RE LG ELECTRONICS, INC., ET AL.
2014-151 IN RE ZTE CORPORATION, ET AL.
Petitions for writ of mandamus are granted to the extent that the orders denying the motions to stay are vacated, and the Eastern District of Texas is ordered to stay proceedings pending the outcome of the declaratory judgment action in the Northern District of California.
DISMISSAL
2014-1769 ABB, INC. v. ROY-G-BIV CORPORATION
October 2, 2014.
Good point.
The Federal Circuit has the highest percent of en banc reviews vs all the other circuits
.3% of all cases are given en banc review but not all cases request en banc
I wish I had the pecent of cases with dissent that request en banc and are granted
The decision will definitely not be transparent, but is there potential for insider info? I think so.
I can't say if it would get back to 3.00, but it absolutely could because the en banc review would essentially be a redo of the appeal and we were at 3.00+ during the appeal.
Granting the en banc review has .5% chance. After that, a reversal has a much higher probablity than .5%. This is why I see the granting of the review as the big slingshot to take us above 3.00 because it is the biggest hurdle (not that the other hurdle is small just comparable to the initial appeal).
If you think of the price increase that would have occurred if the appeals court went 2-1 the other way (which would have hurt GOOG financially) probably would have went from 3.50 to 7.00 or 10.00 or more. Let's say 300%
Now that we are at .70 just think if this court just allows an en banc review (which costs the judges nothing personally, is in no way corrupt, and would not hurt GOOG although the result of the en banc review could) the price of this stock would jump back to at least 3.00 if not more 4.00 or 5.00. This is over a 500% gain.
A substantially larger gain for allowing the review than the actual appeals decision for no cost to anyone.
Not that anyone involved directly with the en banc decision would be allowed to financially benefit. But if there was an insider "indirectly in the know" there would be a monster profit potential for them. And just think since this is only a review, no one involved (other than shorty and who cares about him) would be hurt in anyway. The kind of scenario where you can still sleep at night on your new found bed of money.
So, the filing for en banc review will occur mid-october. The filing itself will not have an impact on the PPS. The granting (or denying) of the review would occur maybe a month later. This will be the time to watch for any insider activity. I am not sure what it would look like, but increased volume for sure. And, in this period of time is the perect place to do it because the increased volume could be attributed to 'poor retail dummies who think the news of a filing for en banc actually means something' ... what a great cover
I will be keeping my eyes open for the next couple of weeks...
I never get the closing price right two days in a row.
I will say tomorrow will be .0016
And it will close at .0040
Close will be .0024 today
I definitely don't like the GOOG outcome and I don't like the probablity of success with GOOG now. Because of this, I have thought my best move is to abandon VRNG, but yesterday, I came across some of my old research on ZTE, ASUS, etc.
I understand that you can argue ZTE will never settle, VRNG will lose in court against ZTE, or ZTE will never pay. All of those have a chance of happening.
So, my old research on the very low end of a ZTE settlement was 2.55 PPS and even a reasonable case for 5.10 PPS. Of course, there is the best case 9.50 PPS but I wouldn't give it more than single digit chance with the way ZTE has behaved in these "negotiations."
I understand the potential of 15, 25, 40 PPS are just a dream now (maybe a .5% dream), but the probably of 3, 5, 6 PPS in the next 12 months is good enough to keep me around (for now).
I am ready to see this week's dilution numbers.
We had about 200 million total volume during the run from .005 to .080 (Aug13-Dec13). The volume dropped off (about 8M a day to 4M a day) and the PPS fell with it.
This week we had over 300 million volume in 5 days. We went back from .0039 to .0016 with no drop off in volume (steady 50M+).
Reeks of manipulation
In addition, we have had weeks (none recent thankfully) where the dilution was over 50% of weekly volume and we didn't fall through the bottom.
Major volume this week!
You can conjecture "dilution," but I believe there was little to none this week.
You can conjecture "manipulation," and I will probably agree with your conspiracy theories.
The facts will be out shortly!
Big news - new order
You are right
The news is out
182 more gendrives!!!
So true
Investors will valuate the no-real-assets-sponge-selling-website company at 30x of projected earnings and a company with facilities, equipment, resources, and reserves at .5x
Although, I do think we should have sime revenues before we get past a fair 2x-5x
That is true that is why I reduced it to $2 M which is .0025 PPS and gave them 5x for .0125
in any case, this is 50% or 500% or 1000% underpriced depending on how you look at it
I think they still have 500 MT of antimony waiting to be processed.
60% grade is worth about $5000 per MT
That is $2.5 million minus milling and transportation
There you go, enough to pay for half of the mill
That alone is enough to justify .0125 PPS