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Does anyone Else Think No ONE REALLY SOLD?
I think they may have hit some stop loss orders on people who either forgot to take them off, or are a certain kind of trader!
Then there are HUGE BUYS!
Possibly some MM exchanges a s well!
I think this is a lot of VOLUME NOT FROM EIG HOLDER'S!
I do not think anyone or many really sold!
They are trying to make it look like that!
ECIG IS ABOUT TO BE ON THE BIG COMEUP!
MAYBE THE REASON THE ASK IS SO SMALL, is BECAUSE THEY DO NOT WANT YOU TO BE ABLE TO BUY A LOT OF SHARES AT THAT PRICE!
These OBVIOUS ATTACKS! MEANS ECIG GOING UP BIG!
IT SEEMS THAT SOME INTEREST IS INVOLVED IN ATTACKING ECIG!... KEEPING THE PPS LOW!
THAT IS SO WHEN THE RUN STARTS IT STARTS AT A LOWER PPS!
WE HAVE MORE BIG NES CMING AND ECIG WILL TAKE OFF SOON!
THE SMART ONES ARE BUYING!
NOW IS THE TIME! CAN BUY MORE SHARES!
If we buy enough shares, then we will become the noteholder's,
They will have to cash in their Notes for shares...
IF NOT DONE ALREADY!
AND ANYONE WHO MUST COVER WILL NEED TO BUY THE EXCESS SHARES BACK AT WHATEVER PRICE!
ALSO WE COULD THEN MAKE SURE NO ONE ELSE IS ALLOWED TO SELL ANY MORE AIR SHARES!
ECIG about to EXPLODE!
Even if R/S happened Still Profiting at CURRENT PPS!
The current PPS is so ridiculously low,
that is still a good buy, even if you THINK the R/S is happening!
If you think that it is not happening or going to be called off...
THEN THIS IS AN ABSOLUTE MUST BUY!
Possibly the easiest money ever!
ECIG RELEASES GOOD NEWS! SO ATTACKED FOR COVERINNG!
This seems to happen every time!
And anyone saying this was no good news, is clearly not understanding the CURRENT MARKET CAP OF ECIG!
FOR A COMPANY WIH THIS MARKET CAP! IT IS HUGE NEWS!
The only explanation I can think of is that someone is trying to buy the out and accumulate as many shares as possible first!
ECIG IS JUST TOO UNDERVALUED!
ECIG may have pulled off something Brilliant too!
There is a good chance that ECIG has only NOTES left that they like the terms of...
AT least much better then they did before!
They also may have given the notes to someone specific who has agreed to work with them!
But most importantly they may have the cash now to pay off the loans in full of a bunch of them...
And gave the note holder's the 10 day notice... possibly already passed or about to pass!
So I think there is a good chance that these notes are paid off, THE ONES THAT REALLY HURT!
Think about it. THE OTHER 85% Note HOLDER's Would have been happy to put up the cash to pay them off in exchange for a new Note!
My guess is we see some new announcements soon!
ECIG WOULD BE BOUGHT OUT WORST CASE SCENARIO!!
If you read Philip Morris and other major tobacco companies Ecig's and Vaping is reducing their profits by a large amount! And only expected to grow TO A WAY LARGER PERCENTAGE!
While there are a Couple Major Tobacco companies that have tried to release their own ECIG's or Vaping, to varying degrees of Success!
SOME HAVE NOT!
THE BIG TOBACCO COMPANIES NEED to have a Presence in e-cigarette's and vaping, if the OTHER BIG COMPANIES DO!
THEY are not just going t hand over the whole market!
So I have no doubt Ecig could make a lot more money then its current value by selling.
But they do not want to because they see the potential too!
It looks like a no lose only big win situation!
Because last PR worked so Well? ATTRACT INVESTORS!
My guess is that is what the company is waiting for!
New investors willing to actually pay money. The longer the hoarding of these low stocks goes on, the more they will be scared away!
The strategy just so I am clear is until the company Releases something saying these shares are worth a lot MORE! Then Ill consider buying, oh and also I will have all of my .04 and .05 cent shares raised insanely high!
HMM Remember when everyone said as soon as they max out O/S and stop dilution it is going to fly! people are going to by!
Well they did. and no one seemed to buy!
So management has released very valuable PR and held the stock to maxed out at 280 million and Re-Structured debt!
STILL NOT ENOUGH FOR YOU! WOW WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM THEM!
NITE needs shares! Here is his Strategy! Read!
NITE is controlling the bid and ask,
obviously hoping someone just sells at the bid t him!
But by holding this down... if it is going to .06 or .08 or wherever today!
NITE plans on starting it here so he can pick as many up on the way up as possible.
Not really that hard.
I think they are trying to literally make people BORED into SELLING!
No one is really holding it down, it's just no one is buying!
Everyone is waiting n someone else. BUT NO ONE IS SELLING EITHER HAHA
Management VERY OFTEN, CANNOT RELEASE INFO UNTIL FINALIZED!
It does not mean that ECIG has not basically just made huge deals and is ironing out the paperwork!
It means they need to be able to release something, this requires both parties, and usually a fully negotiated deal!
I put it on Retail?
Well if Retail owned 17% of outstanding shares and
Management owned the Rest, you would put it on management correct?
You seem not to grasp that WE ARE MANAGEMENT. The shares are ALL EQUAL! So while they could not purchase shares due t the Note Holder agreement.
Their shares went from $4.50 to .05! You were able to buy and so was everyone else!
Last time we had a PR, without Buying support it is inviting a short attack. Which is what they may be worried about!
Why keep asking that? Management CANNOT BUYBACK SHARES!
This was in the agreement with the noteholders.
Otherwise I am sure they would just take a couple million and buyback a boatload of shares!
That's why I keep explaining we NEED to raise the PPS!
Management Needs this PPS high for 15 days before the R/S!
They CANNOT buyback shares or increase THE PPS RIGHT NOW!
THEIR PR IS WAITING ON SOME BUYING AND US MOVING OUT OF THE .05s!
EVERYONE Re-READ THIS! PR 15% NOT MENTIONED!
Here is what was in the 8-K
The Company achieved the following progress in key areas:
• An agreement has been reached with approximately 85% of the senior note holders to extend the length of their note by an additional 18 months, reduce the interest rate to 8%, affix their conversion price, and eliminate the ratchet provision on their warrants.
• Existing investors agreed to provide short-term working capital to continue to fund the Company’s growth and operational requirements.
• Sources for a larger infusion of long-term growth capital have been identified, and ECIG is working with these investors to structure an agreement that will allow the Company to proceed with its global expansion strategy.
So this 15% that Everyone is talking about means that the 15% could have been BOUGHT OUT, PAID OFF or 1 person with hardly any money left on their Notes that converted!
It does not say anything about 15% not willing to renegotiate!
And with the other 2 announcements about CASH , they were Most likely paid off! Again the other NOTE holder's Re-Structured so the 15%was either taken care of or of minimal damage!
Should be a very interesting day tomorrow!
NTEK is in a very interesting position!
They have so much going for them!
If anyone bought over $156! Stop TRADING IMMEDIATELY
That was the most overvalued stock I have seen.
Run up 15 points in a few days.
HAHAHA
TOS reported what? COSTCO DOWN BIG! RED! RED!
It is a simple analysis when a company reports a $5 dividend and the price jumps $16 dollars...
The market cap 8 Billion! HAHA
Options were exercised because the dividend through them off.
And insider selling as disclosed publically already!
They would rather take the big dollars, then the petty dividend!
And just continues to fall after hours!
Yep at about any other place NO MEMBERSHIP FEE!
Why is Costco giving back so Much in Dividends??
BECAUSE THEY are PAYING BACK YOUR OWN MONEY.
BUT THE VAST MAJORITY OF IT TO THEMSELVES!
Costco = Terrible Business Model
Costco = Ha I wouldn't trust those books for second!
Who is in charge at Costco.... BECAUSE IT wasn't Sinegal and it is not what's his name
Craig Jelynek... who cares if it's spelled right. he has n real power anyway!
Costco = Crooks, Liars, Lawsuits Galore! FAKE!!
They pay their employees high wages???
No they don't they barely have any employees.
And your membership fees pay them high wages! :)
Costco ripping off other brands (Michael Kors and Tiffany's)
Been Sued for not promoting females. Locked employees in the warehouse after hours daily!
Class action lawsuits galore!
Oh Ya and their employee got a man MURDERED OUT FRONT OF THE STORE WIH 50 WTNESSES!
And then They "lost the tape", wait I mean it "wasn't on" , wait I mean "it got corrupted"!
funny when they need tapes. they never get corrupted??
hmm . JIM Sinegal = A joke of a Front Man!
Keep telling yourself Costco rose $140-$156 HAHA
I am sorry in 5 days since the $5 dividend.
The stock increased over 12%
and gained a market cap of over 6 Billion. HAHA!
All those shares sold... which was owned by 76% insiders and Institutions
So seems like some of them dumped a lot of shares over the last 5 days!
Why take a $5 dividend when you can take a $15 dollar increase!
Oh ya and the increase would be taxed at capital gains rate
the dividend would be taxed at the new dividend rates!
Just to let you know what really happened. And what Costco planned!
Keeping Costco running like a well oiled machine for printing a few 1%ers money!
Sadly, That is The STRATEGY MANY ARE USING!
Well obviously what we are doing is not working. Sitting there with you million or millions of Shares at .04 average or .05 average..
Many are said I am loaded.
Waiting for someone o come in and buy 20 million and push tis over .10 then .20.
Then my shares will be worth .20 too!
Um ya except... They see the chart. They know how many people have a boatload of .04's .05's and need to see some faith and movement in the stock!
Once it goes above .06 then people will see a breakout, confidence, and expect upward movement!
My suggestion was take 10% of your holdings amount and buy that many shares to push it over .06!
So if you have 2 million that's only 200,000 shares! If everyone does it we can push through!
If you do the math. The increase you will receive on your other shares makes it a very good idea and worth a lot more money!
What's Scaring Investors is O/S Same NO BUYING!
If no one is buying in the .055's...
then investors wonder why...since everyone was waiting for the O/S to be maxed for a huge run!
It has been maxed for 4 days!
Look at the Volume.. Pathetic.
The Company needs to know where the PPS is going to be in order to give you the PR's that you want.
So basically we have people here and investors that just keep buying low cost shares waiting for Company PR's!
Then we have the Company, who everyone said once dilution stops and the O/S is unchanged for 4 days this will skyrocket. So ECIG waiting on Buyers and Buyers waiting on ECIG!
We have to pass .06 on our own! You say they don't share information. They did what you wanted. So now the shareholder's are not helping out ECIG management at all!
Agreed! Insiders and Institutions Keep Gaining by SELLING!
COSTCO went up from $140-$156 based on
ALMOST EXCLUSIVELY a 5 dollar dividend announcement and some options exercised!
so pay an extra 12% or 15 bucks and you can have a $5 dividend!!
Then everyone bought puts!
Average volume was about 2.3 million shares a day.
Last few days over 10 million. Haha why do you think everyone is selling?
Institutions own 75% of the shares!
Costco the Most highly thought of public company "that just continues to find ways t screw people over! and never gets called out!
My god a $5 dividend.... but your shares are already down 8 bucks! They went up 16 dollars so more to come!
OPENED at .056! NEED ABOVE .056 AND HOLD
If we can get this above .056 ASAP and hold.
We have a lot of watchers waiting for the .06 break!
They are getting bored!
We need them for our breakout!
and we need anyone who needs to buy to buy over .056!
Obviously the accumulation plan has not been working!
I agree. If stop allowing dips. DILUTION DONE!
You guys the dilution is over,
The company is obviously maxed out at
280 Million!
They have to have some shares reserved for employees and old agreements!
There will be no more dilution!
It has been 4 days now!
e cannot keep sing this as an excuse to not move higher!
Meanwhile it is a flippers paradise.
And a short guaranteed easy cover. If we do not start putting some buying pressure on!
PR is also probably waiting on PPS PERFORMANCE!
After all, what the stock is trading at does play into the plans of management!
So EVERYONE STOP buying .05 Cent Shares and Waiting for a company to release something that makes them worth .20 or .25 cents!
CONSIDERING HOW MNAY SHARES RETAIL HOLDS! YOU NEED TO PARTICIPATE IN A PPS RISE!
In the last POWER HOUR plus about 10 Minutes
about 150,000 shares were bought, and you let it close negative. That is pathetic!
When a stock closes negative. SHORTS KEEP ALL THEIR SHARES, and make a profit!
IT IS NOT AS COMPLICATED AS MAN OF YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE IT! we have to close higher then open everyday!
We keep trading this stock in the .05s and that's what it becomes a .05 cent trading stock.
Which by the way management know owns how much of a %?? Ya of a .05 cent stock they weren't allowed to buyback!
Seriously stop collecting .05s!!!
WOW! NOT DILUTION! Shorts Covering SAME TIME DAILY!
If you are long and this goes down...
It does you absolutely NO GOOD!
There is no reason to allow Shorts to cover and make money and keep their shares to keep bombarding us with the same shares!
Also no reason to pick up cheaper shares!
The flipping zone is getting to be a powerhouse if this continues!
We want out of that!
ECIG makes no money and pays of no debt with flippers trading back and forth and longs allowing the price to not rise and allowing short interest to just drive us down!
WHAT YOU PAY FOR YOUR SHARES TODAY! HAS A DIRECT CORRELATION TO WHAT THEY WILL BE WORTH! YOU ARE LOSING MONEY GETTING CHEAPER SHARES!
ECIG NEEDS US TO RAISE THE PPS!
Correct! No reason to vote Now! PPS RISE NEEDED!
Remember we want 15 high trading days before the meeting! Moe if we can!
So we need to get that started ASAP!
That is the important part. If we raise the PPS enough... The company will have the option of changing the vote to a R/S and keeping the same structure!
If we can get the high trading days and continue them in a row!
No more free covering for shorts!
WE NEED TO USE EVERYONE TO MOVE THIS UP! THAT MEANS, LONGS, FLIPPERS, TEMPORARILY, make them get out and back in at a higher price if they want!
AND ALSO SHORTS TO BRING THE PRICE UP FOR US!
I 100% agree you have weeks to vote, why give up your power now! It cannot possibly help you! Even voting no is a bad idea.
Because they may always adjust the terms and/or circumstances may change!
Time to do our part! Above .06 Hold!
Yesterday and the day before we Established .055 as our new floor!
We cannot give these up and allow dlippers and shorrs to continuously SUCK MONEY OUT OF THE COMPANY!
WHEN YOU HAVE A SHORT POSITION AND A STOCK GOES UP YOUR SUPPOSED TO LOSE MONEY!
IF WE DONT KEEP THAT TRUE. THEY HAVE NO REASON TO STOP SHORTING!
MANAGEMENT HAS STOPPED DILUTION. PPS IS IN RETAILS HANDS....... just as much as managements!
Anyone with a lot of shares needs to take 10% of the amount of shares they have and pit in a nice bid floor at .06! And start buying up!
The longer the wait the more flippers to play!
Hoarding millions and millions of shares at .03's .04s and .05s and then..... saying I have my position.... everyone else push it up to .25! Not realistic without the help of current longs!
ALSO REMEMBER SPLIT AMOUNT AND PRICE DEPENDS ON PPS! SO IF YOU HOLD YOUR 2 MILLION SHARES AT .04'S AND .05's. The split could go:
1:20 instead of 1:10 or 1:5! So pay a small amount know or lose more later.
We have a lot of people waiting to jump in as soon as we pass .06! They are growing tired I am sure.
We do not want to lose them. Because the next big stop is over .20 after that!
To GO UP WE NEED PEOPLE PAY MORE!!!!
WE HAVE AMASSED A HUGE COLLECTION OH HOARDERS IN THE .03S THROUGH THE .04S AND LOW 5s!
If you want managements help we need to raise the PPS.
THIS IS NOT A CHARITY FOLKS!
YOU CANT ACCUMULATE MILLIONS OF SHARES FOR .03 AND .04 CENTS AND TAKE OVER A COMPANY.
OR EXPECT A R/S OF YOUR 5 SHARES THAT YOU PAID ALMOST .20 FOR TO BE SPLIT TO 2.50!!!
SOMEONE HAS TO BUY WITH REAL MONEY TO MOVE THIS UP?
CANT JUST SIT BAXK WITH YOUR "CHEAPIES ALL DAY EVERY DAY"!
EVERYONE IT'S NOW OR NEVER! NEED TO RAISE PPS!
The management did their part and stop dilution and RE-STRUCTURED DEBT!
WHICH IF YOU REMEMBER WAS THE #1 REQUEST OF SHAREHOLDER'S!
NOW it is OUR TURN TO RAISE THE PPS!
Yes I know alarming to some of you...you may have to pay more than .03 or .04 or .05 cents a share!
If you have 100,000's of shares or Millions of Shares!
Do your part... FIRST FOR YOUR OWN INVESTMENTS SAKE and also everyone helping each other out and the company!
When they see you accumulating .05s. You have to show them this stock is worth more then .05's! Remember management lost far more then anyone with their shares now at .05!
At least Bring the PPS above .06 and keep it there. I mean Seriously!
PEOPLE HOLD 51% of COMPANY'S WHY? NTEK OWNS MAJORITY IN HVEL!
THAT means NTEK makes the call, NTEK can sell the company (with a new ticker, by the way)
HVEL cannot object with minority control!
I guess according to you no one really owns much,
If you have a mortgage payment you don't really own your house!
If your car is almost paid off, then you just have majority control!
Your playing semantics and it is ridiculous!
A company owns 51% of another company, then they own that company!
NO NOT AT ALL! NTEK GAINED HVEL CONTROL!
NTEK owns HVEL not wealth being transferred out!
Wow!
When apple and Microsoft acquire companies and they pay for them is wealth being transferred out... No money is
But the gain financially is better.... that's why they do the deals!
Your first Merger/Acquisition or buyout?
You will catch on!
Accumulate Wealth. People accumulating LOW PPS SHARES PROBLEM!
You realize that that is the absolute reason that ECIG isin this mess right?
Because the PPS and Market Cap Plummeted, and some Longs wanted to pick up cheapies?
But then that Just made dilution pay off less debt.
So the cheapies you got!
Would just be worth more now!
No one seems to understand!
Their not cheap shares if they are costing all of your shares money, and the company. The PPS and Market CAP need to be raised to increase your share value!
And if The O/S is maxed at 280??
Then you are going to just continue to look every night?
plus its only 19 million shares anyway!
But how would you know if they are maxed out?
That's what I am saying people are just going to keep attacking the stock!
Your not really accumulating!
Your allowing flippers to accumulate and then the wall at .06 is going to be MUCH MUCH HARDER TO GET THROUGH!
That's why we keep getting stopped on the way up to .06 we have to make a ton of stops to take out the flippers!
We need to keep The PPS high!
There is no more DILUTION! O/S MAXED or Not Selling!
The sad attacks on this stock are succeeding because everyone is waiting on dilution!
A company VERY RARELY RELEASES EVERY SINGLE LAST SHARE!
So being that there is only 19 Million left, They are most likely being held for something!
Also we have been fooled over and over with no dilution!
There is no sign THAT ANYONE IS SELLING THESE LAST SHARES!
LIKE I SAID BEFORE, THEY WOULD THEN LOOSE ALL LEVERAGE!
Also WHY WOULD THEY SELL THEIR LAST SHARES NOW???
THERE WILL BE NO DDILUTION.
MAYBE SOMEONETRYING TO MAKE IT APPEAR LIKE DILUTION!
Look at the 5 year chart! Ntek Goes Up!
So let me know how many different points on that chart would have made you a ton of money!
a loser? why because some people made up artificial dilution?
Ntek's empire is expanding!
It said Bring Facts! Dilution! You Made up!
You said you have no idea how many shares are out there because you could not talk to the TA!
So it is just as possible that NTEK is buying Back shares, as is it is that they are issuing Them, Correct?
Yet you mention Dilution everyday, not one shred of even the tiniest bit of evidence!
So NTEK acquired a new COMPANY, great news!
Until you get a hold of it with your share printing and dilution schemes!
NOT TO MENTION, THE CLASSIC, Maybe he is Diluting So someone can sell their shares higher?? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever!
And I mean whatsoever!
NTEK HAD A GREAT AQUISITION!HUGE FAN! LONG!
I just do not know where this myth of not being able to short penny stocks come from.
I know about the Margin requirements.
But we have already established on this and many other boards, that there are offshore places that are not as stringent with their margin requirements!
NTEK IS A BEAST AND GOING UP!
BUT PEOPLE KEEP CLAIMING THAT IT CANNOT BE DONE. IT CAN. WAS MY ONLY POINT!
Very Important! That We establish! NEW FLOOR TODAY!
We will be moving up and should continue to move up.
But we can't give up any ground.
We really closed at .0557 but a MM waited to process the trade late. So .0551!
WE HAVE TO HOLD .0551! VERY IMPORTANT!
WE KEEP GIVING BACK AND HAVING TO FIGHT OUR WAY THROUGH THE SAME SHARES!
LET FLIPPERS WHO HAV SHARES SELL THEM... BUT NOT PICK UP ANY MORE CHEAP ONES SO THAT WE HAVE TO PLOW THROUGH AGAIN!
.06 should be pretty easy if we just head up there and keep at it!
as long as there are no dips!
AGAIN DON'T FALL FOR THE FAKE DILUTION EITHER!
We move up to and past .06 and don't worry 19 million shares left IF EVEN SOLD!
WILL BE BOUGHT UP VERY QUICKLY BY TECHNICAL TRADERS!
The latest numbers +16.67% up and Acquisition!
Movin on up....
Movin on up
The TA can't make you money, the stock can!
:)
Not sure why you think no short interest?
Short interest serves a few other purposes besides a stock going down!
Sometimes if someone has a ton of shares they could short the stock.
Or someone may be shorting the stock to stop the huge momentum!
If they want as many shares as they can get and think this is going to .10. Then they can try and hold it down to buy more!
Their definitely is short interest possble. Or people that still need to cover because there was shorting before the announcement!
Sometimes they will double down and short again. Although you could get really burned here if short!