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My point, it is old redundant news
That news was already released in the last SEC document.
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Reposting posts from other sites
There is a certain female here who is taking my posts from raging bull and posting them over here just to try and fill the board with posts to generate some replies to make traffic. If I wanted the posts here, I'd post them myself. She's doing this with yahoo posts also and even SI. They're all copy/pastes of other people's posts and she never asks permission. Can you go kick her butt or something. TIA
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I will post what I want where I want
this is america, a free country. As long as my posts are not tos violations, then they are acceptable.
anyone with an original thought on what the news means to astn shareholders?
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that news was in last SEC document
last week
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Fraudsters have been around since the beginning of time
I realize that. I realize that con men will always exist to fleece unwary investors. I will speak my mind about them anyway. I obviously don't like stock promtoers. They lie to investors then personally attack and bash and honest posters. For the life of me I don't know how anyone could ever be a stock promoter. I can only imagine that there was no other job available to them but snake oil salesman. I think robbing 7-11's would be more honest work. At least they're up front about what they're doing instead of pretending to be the friend of the investor altruistically giving them their one sided dishonest misleading DD.
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Stock promoters are fraudsters
Of course people won't like you. Stock promoters defraud investors for money. Who would like someone like that. otcbb stock promoters are the worst. Analysts on wall street are right behind them.
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joe, you've posted way more than three times on RB
bashing me. Remember all your other user names over there? You bash me here too. Get real. Maybe I should get a throw away RB name adn post your home address, real name and such all over RB during the holidays so the posts will stay there til next week.
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quit changing the names, matt
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you bashed me plenty here, joemoney
remember the whole umcc issue? you deleted all my posts then when you got booted as the chairman, you just bashed me and whined all the time.
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joemonkey, joemoney, what's the difference
you both hype loser stocks for unethical gains. joemonkey bashed me on IFTA. You bashed me here and on RB in your many user names.
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If you don't lie like you did on umcc
I won't bash your posts. Posting that "UMCC has profits, profits!!!" right before they filed for bankruptcy was just too much. Making 80-120 one line posts in a 20-30 minute period was also too much. Make some good informational posts and I won't bash them. As npct is probably jsut a scam stock, I doubt you can.
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you want posts on npct, jeomoney
then make some. Go do some npct research then post your results and you'll have posts.
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you attacked me here on ihub ifta
p.s. everyone knows that it's you posting my home address and phone number on RB over and over again, calling me all those naughty names... Who cares if you "behave" here. Everyone knows who you are.
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I posted press release about 200:1 IFTA split
and you just attacked me, joemonkey. I just copy/pasted the press release. I did not attack you or the stock then you attacked me for no reason other than the bad news.
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purpose of thread is not popularity
it is the exchange of both positive and negative information and opinions in a polite and open manner. It's not about traffic. It's not about pump and dumping. npct is dead because the same posters are on RB. No need for duplicate posting. All sara does is copy/paste a few RB posts. What's the point.
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willy, the stocks you recommend you were compensated
npct, qbid, cvia
do you honestly believe that these are good sound companies and investments with honest and ethical management? If not, why do you post about these stocks and have members of your club buy them? do you believe you are helping investors our or the companies?
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I out stock scams, of course hypesters hate me
if they didn't hate me and my posts, then my posts must not be accurate. The more they personally attack and bash me, the more on target my posts are. If they attack me personally, it's because they can't attack my posts as they are the truth.
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I no longer post positively on threads
because then people like you, joemonkey, sara, kathy knight, joemoney, chase me over there and just start bashing/spamming those boards and every poster on it. If you look back before march of this year, you will see me posting postively on quite a few boards, even on boards where I was not invested. I no longer post on those boards because I don't want them mucked up by the nasty stock promoters, pump and dumpers.
I most certainly don't believe all stocks are stock scams. I also don't believe that all stocks are bad investments. Right now I am only posting the negative truths on stock scam and on some bad investments that I followed.
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The mother of all message boards, new
http://www.thelion.com/bin/aio_msg.cgi?all=1&cmd=search&symbol=astn
It just posts the posts from all the different boards. Doubt RB and Yahoo like this too much, or do they?
Matt, if they add your posts, will you block it or allow them with ads or something?
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I'm ready! :-{}
though I must go first. I don't want no sloppy seconds
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So that's how you do it, chas
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New SEC filing today: shareholders get lump of coal
from 100 to 250 M shares
two directors resign
special shareholder meeting
bad, bad news. price will dump on monday
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Liquidnet trades 500 millionth share in october
and they're a new business. Just ot put the astn news in perspective.
NEW YORK, October 24, 2001 New York
LIQUIDNET TRADES ITS 500 MILLIONTH SHARE,
SAVED MEMBERS $54 MILLION IN 2 QUARTERS
Liquidnet, the alternative trading system (ATS) exclusively for institutional investors, said that it traded its 500 millionth share yesterday. The ATS also said that based on figures from the Plexus Group second quarter 2001 analysis, Liquidnet saved its Members approximately $26 million in trading costs for NYSE and Amex listed stocks and approximately $28 million in trading costs for NASDAQ listed stocks, compared with other means of executing trades.
"Many of our institutional clients have begun to use Liquidnet and realize the benefits of anonymous trading and the reduced market impact costs that result when crosses occur without intermediaries, said David Hall, President of the Plexus Group, a Los Angeles-based transaction process adviser to investment managers, plan sponsors, and brokerage firms.
"Based upon data from the second quarter of 2001, the average trade executed on Liquidnet cost 26 basis points less than our execution benchmark for exchange-listed stocks and 67 basis points less for NASDAQ-listed stocks," Hall said.
Seth Merrin, Liquidnet founder and CEO, said "Every dollar we save our Members on execution costs directly benefits the shareholders and pension fund beneficiaries on whose behalf they manage funds."
Liquidnet's average trade size is more than 71,000 shares compared to an average of 800 shares for all other exchanges and execution venues. More than 90 percent of Liquidnet Members' trades have been completed within the bid/ask spread, indicating their trades are being completed without moving the market.
Merrin added, "With six large institutions signed last week, we crossed the 100 Member threshold in just six months, which is a testament to the value we bring to the marketplace." Liquidnet Members manage more than $3.7 trillion in aggregate equities and their average size exceeds $35 billion.
Glenn Schorr, financial services analyst for Deutsche Bank, said, "Liquidnet's ramp-up to 500 million shares is the fastest of any ATS I've seen."
About Liquidnet:
Liquidnet is an alternative trading system (ATS) for large institutional investors designed to allow the trading of large blocks of stocks anonymously with minimal market impact costs. Liquidnet's unique architecture and model have solved the major problem facing B2B exchanges and ATS's-building a critical mass of liquidity. Through advanced Internet-enhanced technologies, Liquidnet has created a community of large institutions that brings liquidity to the trader, reversing the current paradigm of searching for liquidity.
Liquidnet is a registered broker/dealer, headquartered in New York City, with offices in Boston, Chicago and Los Angeles. Additional company and product information is available online at www.liquidnet.com.
We bring liquidity to you™
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astn was NOT the victim
they profited greatly from the mob boiler room, especially fred. The INVESTORS were the victims. They lost $50 million dollars. Read the early SEC docs and the article
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this is not SI, it's ihub
and the FUE mob case is related. Fred chose fue to do the company's ipo. Many were defrauded because of fue and astn shares. The director of fue is currently a director at astn. The mob guys names are all over the ipo and early sec docs
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read iiag's TA on yahoo board
He agrees that it's just a dead cat bounce.
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Season's Greetings everyone
Darn it. I can't get my ascii art to work right. Oh well, it's the thought that counts.
FUE/ASTN news! more arrests & indictments
See, FUE is not old news.
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/stocktalk/msg.gsp?msgid=16818661
I wonder if they will start ratting out people like Gothner and Freddie soon.
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$4.50 to $15 to $1 to $18 to .24 is positive?
That's the chart of a scammy stock. Just a couple of momo runups before going down for the count.
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down 30% on same volume and going lower
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Great job, Matt
Your mom will be very pleased. I love shopping on the internet. It makes things so much easier and the prices and selection are fantastic.
Hey, you didn't get me anything for my bday Guess I should just be happy that you didn't get me suspended again
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no reason for price increase, dead cat bounce
probably just fred spreading false rumors again about a buyout. He's been talking about a merger for what, six months now? Why would they wait til astn is broke to merge?
Also, vwap volume is down, not up. Course maybe that's a good thing as they have to pay for the volume or as fred likes to call it, "revenue." If I had a ton of shares, I'd take this opportunity to get out.
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Bob and SI Jeff the same person? NO WAY!
They are very, very different. Bob goes by the rules. Jeff goes by whichever member whines and threatens to sue the most.
This is Bob.
Unknown stock promoter on a small offshore island: "zee american chick, she is outing me scams. Kill er or I weill soooo yooo and git yoo fired! I noze peeple."
Bob: Did she break the TOS?
Unknown: No but shee keep me frum cheeeting peeple.
Bob: Go whine somewhere else.
Whereas Jeff handles it like this...
Unknown: "zee american chick, she iz outing me scams. Kill er or I weill sooooo yooo!"
Jeff: "Okay, okay, I'll suspend her for a week. Are ya happy now?"
Unknown: "Jezz. Tank yoo berry much! I will find yooo a job for much money. Would you like a stock teeep?"
Jeff: No thanks.
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MF=Motley Fool?
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RB just remodeled
They also have different chart services you can buy. I wonder if they get subpoenaed, they would turn over all the personal information from the credit card payment.
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Famous hypester exit lines
Everyone promoter I've ever seen has said almost those exact same words when the jig is up. "I don't feel that today it is a good investment." Covering your behind language. Of course you were hyping it while they did their 200:1 reverse split. It was a bad investment way before that yet you hyped it.
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Why do you hype IFTA and NPCT then?
Why do you also attack anyone who posts negative news items on those boards? I don't understand. You attacked me personally for posting the news item about the IFTA 200:1 reverse split. You attack me for posting the CEO's lawsuits on NPCT. What is the motivation? Why do you list those stocks in your profile as favorite stocks? Why do you post so much there?
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Wrong, sara
that's what happens when you just repost other people's posts. You didn't bother to check out the information yourself, you just blindly reposted it. You are wrong. Go read the company site.
ITG is .01 a trade
ATG is .03 a trade with less liquidity
With ITG their vwap system is just a small, small part of the entire services the company offers. With ATG it's everything and the only thing as most of the other divisions have basically failed.
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ITG vs ATG : no comparison
http://www.itginc.com
Here's the link showing that they have 194 of the top 425 institutions in the U.S.
http://www.itginc.com/investor/
Here's their major partner with it's huge list of institutional clients
http://www.barra.com/about/default.asp
Here's all the TOMs (Trade Order Management system) they
attached to without which few if any institutions are going to bother with an electronic trading system
http://www.itginc.com/products/connectivity/index.html
here is the 11Ac1-6 filing
http://www.itginc.com/Rule11Ac1-6.html
ITG's VWAP system
http://www.itginc.com/products/vwap/vwapsmartserver/sld001.htm
and, if anyone wants to see the volume they do
and how they've grown, click on volume on this link
http://www.itginc.com/about.html
They're also cheaper at .01 cents per. Now who in their right mind would use ATG? That's why fred has to pay people to use the system. The volume today cost atg money.
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Chas, NW
I haven't had such a good laugh in a looooong time
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