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Thanx infoseeker11. Opinions from a different perspective are always good to hear. You're right, I'll probably wait until October to see what transpires with the "drops". As you might expect, a couple of friends who previously owned DROP are repeatedly saying SELL, SELL. Their argument is that, if DROP falls into the 0.03-0.05 range, it will take YEARS to ever recover to the 0.30-0.50 level. They could be spot on since this thing with "dilution" is getting a lot of press lately. Sure hope Fuse finds different avenues to secure financing. So, if I hold on to DROP, it's inevitable that one of two things will happen; either my entire investment will be virtually wiped out or I'll make a handsome return. As I read posts after posts, it appears that a number of investors are in the same boat as me. GLTA.
Well VVVVVV, if you're invested in DROP, why not take your own advice and get out now?? Seems you know more about Fuse than Fuse knows about itself.....hmmm
Some good links. Thanx jelly!
Shore18, just got caught up on the posts today to see your hypothetical question. As you have posed it, I would continue "holding" and add additional lower cost shares as financially able. Most people, IMO, would provide a similar answer. But shore18, let me elaborate further to try and explain the root problem behind my frustration and growing lack of patience with Fuse/DROP. Time is money, right? Delays getting EnerJel out in the market place, delays in getting adequate financing streams, and now delays in launching the "drops"; all this is costing me money. My funds are tied-up in a stock who's share value is slowly decaying over time and shows no realistic sign of reversing direction in the near term. And, if and when it does turn around, for every 1.0 percent drop it took, a 1.67 percent increase has to follow just to get back even. Again, we're probably looking at an extended period of time to just recoup losses. Bottom line, I have the unpleasant task of deciding whether to ride this stock for the next 1,2 or maybe 3 years (if the co. doesn't fold first) to hopefully get back even or to dump all of it now, lick my wounds, and start digging out of a pretty deep financial "hole". In hindsight, I should have traded this stock instead of taking a "buy & hold" strategy. Oh well, it is what it is... :(
Thanx, shore18, rick85, and bay for the follow-up. For me personally, I believe it's just total frustration that's set in. Months ago, with DROP rolling along in the 0.35-0.75 range, Fuse seemed to be heading in the right direction. Now it appears that with every positive announcement or PR, the pps shifts lower. It's like some major factor or entity (don't really know how to define it) is purposely driving the pps lower and is countering any positive influences that would, in most cases, push the pps upward. Admittedly, I invested way too much in this pink and didn't stick to my own self-imposed trading principals. Got caught up in the TW hype as well. So, this may turn out to be an expensive learning lesson. Throw in the towel or hold on by the fingernails are the only options on the table as I see it. :(
Rick85, in response to an earlier post. Your right that this is a risky stock to invest in (riskier than I expected). But, to me any money invested in stocks in NEEDED money. We're all trying our best to invest wisely to make a reasonable profit. Putting a little "play money" in a stock like DROP doesn't meet the qualifications or intent stated in the previous sentence. With Fuse, it seems that there are "powers" at work behind the scenes, controlling the pps and manipulating the movement of the outstanding shares, etc. Us investors are just along for the ride and have influence whatsoever in the stock movement. Totally frustrating. Rick, thanks for all your informative posts.
Thanx, paythetaxes, for sharing your thoughts and opinions.
Well, dbublu, sounds like we're in about the same position, investment wise. I, too, have tried to average down but haven't been able to get low enough to feel comfortable at all. So, now I'm definitely straddling the fence. There's a number of investment savvy, positive people who post here and it's those posts that have kept me in the ballgame up to this point. But, I've already lost a significant amount of money (yes on paper, I understand that) waiting for the potential or expectations of this company to unfold and it just hasn't happened. If DROP does go to say 0.03-0.05, then basically I've lost everything. What's surprising, or should I say troubling, is that we all know someone within the Fuse organization monitors this board and they read our frustrations about no PR's concerning the pps, the dilution, or the increase in outstanding shares, yet all we get is basically "silence". At some point, we all have to exit this train either in the "red" or the "black". It looks like when DROP = 0.09 or less that the drop dead date has arrived for me to disembark. Just don't think I have the mental fortitude to wait this thing out another year or two.
Malekabal42, adding at 0.11 was a smart move. Wish I had about $100k available, I'd do the same. Or $50k.
As usual, infoseeker, nothing but the facts; therefore, nothing to refute. Good job!
Baystbully, excellent rebut!
Face, IMO, at a future date, a ton of people are going to regret that they didn't hang on to DROP when the going got rough. Many successful companies start out as an idea in some garage or basement. The key people behind Fuse, however, put together a management team of some pretty "heavy hitters" who have been around the block a few times. Fuse stands a better than average chance of becoming a successful entity because of this team.
There's a number of people posting on this board who are very investment savvy and who continue to be positive about Fuse/DROP. I purposely search out their posts to get a more realistic view of the facts being discussed. Let the pessimists continue to bash and spout out negative comments and unsubstantiated facts; to me, and many others, it's just "noise". Now is the time to buy, not sell.
Sorry, my post didn't update correctly. Here's the entire post again.
ell stated rookie48. I'm not a financial guru so my knowledge of warrants & dilution to raise capital is limited to say the least. However, Fuse has put forth in recent PR's that they're working several avenues to raise working capital; the drop in the pps is most likely the recipient of such activity. Although it's disconcerting to see the pps hit the single digits, I still have confidence in the company, the management, its products and advanced technology. For many who post here, DROP is just another stock to short, day trade, or whatever, which is definitely ok by me but, at the same time, there's many like me who have a significant INVESTMENT in Fuse. We, as investors, don't plan to sell or "throw in the towel" until we have reached our target return on investment. We can see the big picture while others can't see the forest for the trees. Any investment in a start-up company is a risk but what stock investment is not a risk? Bashing of the company, its management, and its capitalization methods will probably continue; however, let it be known that it does not phase many of us in the least.
Well stated rookie48. I'm not a financial guru so my knowledge of warrants & dilution to raise capital is limited to say the least. However, Fuse has put forth in recent PR's that they're working several avenues to raise working capital; the drop in the pps is most likely the recipient of such activity. Although it's disconcerting to see the pps hit the single digits, I still have confidence in the company, the management, its products and advanced technology. For many who post here, DROP is just another stock to short, day trade, or whatever, which is definitely ok by me but, at the same time, there's many like me who have a significant INVESTMENT
Knock yourself out, WondertheGr8; buy at least 1000 shares..:)
Vera, with all due respect, because you typically post a lot of excellent information, please don't offer advice unless it's asked for. Nobody likes that, especially us investors who are most likely less educated in financing and equities. Again, nothing personal.
York, I've stated on here several times that Fuse is definitely a buy-out target. Fuse is too small to run with the big boys head to head but, IF they actually do hold a "golden key" (IMO they do) to game changing technology, then they are PRIME for a buy-out. Would that not be nice!!!
HS. Reading through all the posts today and just came across yours. First, let me say that I am in no way making or creating any excuses for Fuse's production problems (e.g. machine glitches) with the drop products. And, I'm definitely not belittling your stance for questioning their reply on the matter.
After almost 40 yrs of experience as a chemical & mechanical design/construction engineer, I've seen my share of project start-ups. Whether it's a new system start-up or a production (capacity increase) start-up, each one comes with its own inherent set of problems. Obviously, some problems are more difficult to solve than others. Even the most straight forward, well defined projects can have some "beastly" unforeseen hiccups. Saying all that to say this. It doesn't come as any great surprise that Fuse ran into problems trying to upgrade or retrofit existing equipment (my speculation here on the machinery) to handle their new drop products. Whether the problem stems from the formulation side or perhaps the packaging side who knows, but "something" just didn't mesh well. To incorporate a significant design change or equipment modification (e.g. add or modify parts), a project start-up date can easily slip 8-12 weeks. Since Fuse's philosophy is "get it right the first time", they've probably added some "buffer" to the time required to make the needed modifications. Smart move on their part, IMO, since the drops are the "bread & butter" products. I'm willing to wait and hold fast, are you??
Closet Bulldog fan. OK, that will work! Actually, I really like one Gator, Tebow. Class act right there on all fronts.
Ding, ding... Hey Info., we have a REAL coach now. Looking to pull off some upsets at Alabama and Auburn....well, maybe...sometime in the future anyway.
Gee HS, no disrespect, but maybe you need to invoke some DD and research some of your questions from prior posts. I'm talking about going back SEVERAL months. Most of the topics you touch on have been discussed at length in some form or fashion. In so doing, I believe you'll gain a different perspective about Fuse Science. And, yes, they do some things (or don't) that are frustrating at times but they seem to have all intentions of making this pinkie into a formidable contender in several multimillion markets.
Hello, neighbor! Knew you had to be a Southern boy Columbus, Mississippi here. I bleed maroon, on most occasions
Thanx Info. Read your summary twice to make sure I captured everything (well, hopefully). Hey, I got nothing but positive vibs on all subjects discussed. And, most importantly, Fuse's management gained some much needed respect in my view. They have a lot on their plates! Of course all the "pump and dumpers" will be out in full force tomorrow calling everything just "fluff"- can't wait for the circus to start.
Jelly, the last time I looked you were off the board until DROP hit 0.08. What's up?? You actually heard some real news today (call it fluff if you want) about another licensing agreement. Stirred your interest didn't it? Afraid you're going to miss the next big pop on this pump and dump? Better buy now my friend while blood is in the street. Just pulling your chain, Jelly, no disrespect intended. Things get too serious on the board every now and then so, like you, I enjoy poking some fun. Good luck with your DROP investments..
Listen, jelly, all this back and forth tonight accomplishes absolutely nothing. With all due respect to your position, here's my unsolicited advice. Challenge EVERY single thing about Fuse, its management, its products, its technology, its advertising campaign, and so on. Don't send an e-mail to Fuse's IR dept. with any questions concerning the above. Don't post your questions concerning the above on this board in hopes that some Fuse exec. might happen to see them (they do monitor this board btw). Here's what you do. Get all your thoughts together, sit down with your laptop, and compose a letter to Brian Tuffin, CEO. Spell out in no uncertain terms all your concerns as a shareholder in DROP. Be tasteful but very direct with all your questions and comments. Don't mince words (you do know what that is, right?). Now, one of possibly three things will happen when Mr. Tuffin receives your letter: (1) He reads the first paragraph or so and just 13's it, (2) He passes it along to some munchkin on staff who replies with a std. form letter with std verbage that says nothing, or (3) He actually reads the whole thing, he thus understands with true clarity that you have genuine concerns about his company, and lastly, he feels compelled to answer your letter because he senses the effort you put into composing it (and you must do this because without it your message will come across as shallow and unconvincing). Jelly, when you need answers, go straight to the source. Tuffin is high on the "totem pole" no doubt but, he puts his pants on one leg at a time just like you and me. Don't be intimidated by his rank and title, "call him out" to address your questions and concerns; that's what he's paid to do even though that may not be part of his job description. Well, there you have it, take it or leave it. Good luck jelly on your latest job assignment.
jelly, read all your posts and you make what could be some valid points. But, here's what it comes down to, imo, after everything is said and done. You believe the Fuse story, or not. You believe they have such ground breaking technology that several "heavy hitters", who could have easily gone elsewhere, see the technology first hand and come on board with Fuse because of it, or not. You believe, after reading post upon post where people rave about the effectiveness of EJ vs other "like" products, that it truly works differently than the "likes", or not. And I could go on and on; you get the picture. If you disbelieve one or all of the above, you don't need to invest a single dime in DROP. If you're in up to your neck, like yours truly, still cut your loses and split yesterday...that's my $0.02
Excellent post Goldd93. I agree 110%.
Sorry. SOMETHING is going on behind the scenes to drive the pps to 11. For us who averaged down from 40, 30, 20, this is very disconcerting. And, we should buy more at 11?? Not this investor. I'm long on DROP, but they've got all the money I plan to direct their way! WE NEED A VERY POSITIVE PR FROM FUSE MANAGEMENT TO CALM THE MASSES AND PROVIDE SOME HOPE FOR A BETTER FUTURE.
For once wex, I agree with you wholeheartedly. SOMETHING
Dr., tell me about it!! But, with DROP above 75 twice, without a single product on the market, which way would you have predicted it to move with Enerjel and the "drop" launch waiting in the wing?? Only one way, UP. SOMETHING has happened at Fuse and people in the "know" are headed for the hills. The pps has now factored in that SOMETHING. No?
Someone said something like, "We're prone to repeat our mistakes". My mistake was putting all the eggs in one basket. A no no in investing 101. Buying all the way down looked like a smart tactic because who thought at 30-35 that DROP would tank?? Thanks for the input, Jelly, but I can't afford to sell now. Guess I'll have to ride it out and hope for brighter days. Not expecting any significant "pops".
Jelly, I was given the same advice at 30-35. Who ever heeds advice anyway.....
Let me be, guys, while I quietly cry in my milk.
Erving_goffman, I say ditto. You just stated my sentiments exactly about Fuse management. Many of us bought the story and the impending success of the company which led to buys at various levels for the past year. I suppose this made us "longs" by default. When DROP went above 75 twice, with no product of any kind on the market, the future sure looked mighty bright. But, as you say, little problems started to arise which most, including me, chalked up as just new company growing pains. Although Fuse management has supposedly addressed all these problems, the pps has not responded accordingly. We keep asking "why?" among ourselves but there seems to be no clear factual answer. Some say mass dilution, some say warrants, others believe the company is trying to raise capital. The fact is that the pps has fallen from like 1.25 to 0.11 which is more than discouraging, it's defeating. As the Dr. has expressed, many of us have lost a ton of money. If Fuse management truly cares about its shareholders, as their CEO has stated, they need to come clean and divulge the reasons for the rapid decay in the pps and what they plan to do to shore it up. IMO, anything short of this is going to cause more mass exiting (selling) and many potential big money investors are not going to give this pink a second look. This company may turn things around in the future but it's going to leave a lot of casualties along the way. Man, do I feel "taken".
Hope you're right Dr. about the .30. Although I'm long, this .14-.16 is a wee bit disconcerting. Ok, it makes me nervous.
Jelly, thank goodness you have come to your senses! Welcome aboard.
Thank you Graybird!! Bless you for the input!!
Well, VVVVVV, if it turned out to be one of the best products you ever tried, would it be worth the $19.95 or maybe double or triple that amount? Don't judge a product if you haven't tried it...true???
Hmmmm, Info, do you think all the negativism the last few days is a deliberate, blatant attempt at driving the share price down to rock bottom prices so they can be purchased for a "song"??
Let me see now, GNC has a technical glitch with its ordering system and now, suddenly, this is Fuse's fault?? Incompetence on Fuse's part?? GIVE ME A BREAK! Guys, lest you forget, we're dealing with a start-up company here. Problems have come up and they're being handled promptly. The company bashing that has gone on today is outrageous and baseless.