Game Changer? Folks, we have seen this before.
Only now they have triple the amount of stock to throw away.
And therefore, our pitiful stock price will decrease by three-fold.

What profitable company is going to merge with/be acquired by a company that has never, ever made a profit?
I hope they find one.

Wish they would spend a fraction of the time spent on cockamamie schemes and focus on making real profit.

God help us all.

JMO

Had there been profit going when the chill was lifted, you bet, this thing would have exploded.
In fact, if they get some significant profit going now, it will still take off into the stratosphere.

New Year's resolution suggestion for UBRG: MAKE LOTS OF PROFIT!

and avoid reverse split!


JMO

There's never any solid news on ANY project!

Would sure love to hear some good news!

JMO

True, a reverse or forward split in and of itself does not affect the value of a company, however, all the other things that go along with either of those significantly do affect the overall value. We have seen just such effects with our "dividends" which are in effect, forward splits. Share prices tumbled, number of shares stayed the same.
With a revere split, number of shares will more than tumble, price per share will go up for a millionth of a nanosecond, then come way down to reflect true value of our never-made-a-profit corporation.
So, reverse split must be avoided at all costs. Forward splits should be avoided as well.

Main goal should be to get some value to UBRG in some shape, form or fashion.

This can be accomplished by making lots of profit, reducing debt, avoiding r/s, reporting on time, and of course, selling the corporation to a much higher pps company.

Maybe new board of directors will be able to do something. Doesn't look like the new CFO is going to materialize. Hope Vince and Solomon will get some actual results going

JMO

How bout just old-fashioned profit?

I'd be happy with that as long as there is no reverse split.

Probably a little too late to wrap it and put it under the tree? lol


JMO

Everybody here remember the Rainco fiasco?

Another business connected with Solomon Ali put out an 8K yesterday concerning some deal with Rainco.

Very interesting! How do these guys dream all this stuff up???


JMO

NEWS - Santa Claus buys coal from Whitesburg Friday Branch Coal mine!

Delivers to UBRG management just in time for Christmas!


LOL
JMO

Do you really believe you're getting in at the bottom?

I hope you are and things go up, way up, but it isn't likely.
No actual results released or likely to be released.

JMO

Given the past track record, I bet there isn't any CFO search going on.

More than likely, they are stockpiling that excuse to use when the next 10Q or 10K is late.

JMO

Only 54 ten-thousandths away from it.

Not much wiggle room there.
And looking at the direction of the PPS over the last few years,
there isn't much hope of it going up on its own.
Now, if management were to release information on
actual results (like lots of profit, no r/s, debt reduction, buying back shares or a real sale to a high PPS company) then you'd see this thing take off like a rocket.

Its all up to management.

JMO

OK. My DD shows that unless management produces some real results, this stock isn't going anywhere, except down.

I don't want that. So I encourage management to produce large amounts of profit, avoid a reverse split, report on time, pay down debt, buy back shares and sell this company to another company with a really high PPS. All shareholders including management make piles of money.

What's not to like?

Jmo

So what was your answer?

Jmo

We heard that it was not going sub-penny a while back,

why is this different?

JMO

They aren't punished. . . We are.




JMO

Yes, there is.


From the UBRG Letter to Shareholders January 2012:

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How do we plan to fix it, and increase our share price?
We have made it a top priority to take some very critical steps to increase the short and long term price of our stock. Our plans to increase our share price consists of several strategies including the following:
1. Aggressively pursue generating positive earnings for the 2012 fiscal year
2. Create greater “Brand Awareness” and interest in our Company in the public marketplace
3. Create a greater demand for our stock, increasing our trading volume and liquidity
4. Build stronger business fundamentals, generate higher revenues and market capitalization value
5. Continue to reduce debt and improve future cash flow
6. Focus on adding new profit centers including gas trading, transportation and storage
7. Grow the company through more acquisitions in the energy and related industries
8. Improve our Balance Sheet by increasing our assets in cash, oil, gas, propane and coal
9. We are positioning Universal to potentially qualify, (possibly through a secondary public offering), and apply to be listed on a major national stock exchange such as NASDAQ, NYSE Amex Equities or others
10. Timely filing of all financial reports with the SEC

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We will continue to work hard on your behalf. Now you can tell the villagers not to come with the torches and pitchforks to kill the corporate monsters; at least for the time being. Trust me – We get it!

There are several other promises to file on time.

I like your idea of punishment for not doing what they promise, but it is actually the PPS that suffers when pie in the sky dreams and plans do not come through. Excuses don't exactly attract investors.

By the way, the PPS back then was about 0.03.

Shareholder value just isn't happening.



JMO

Locks, did you get the part about they have told us they will file on time several times. . . and then they don't do it 99.34% of the time?

Are you seeing the pattern yet?


JMO

Hey Management! Check the PPS!! DO SOMETHING!!!

(and don't even think about a r/s)

Do something real!

JMO

After telling us they are going to file on time, several times
they could make that happen a little more frequently than it has. <------- (sarcasm)
I guess it's just easier to come up with excuses
like the accountant went fishing, or there's a packet due in from China/Japan.
whatever


Do you think there's at least a pattern here, Locks?

JMO

UBRG files late 99.34% of the time.

Is that more to your liking?? That qualifies as "always" in my book.

And, like you, I too have never filed a 10Q or 10K,

but,

Thousands of companies somehow manage to file on time. . .

Sure, there are many that don't file on time, too, but is that what we want from our company? I don't. They should find a way to report on time.

JMO

It did when I started out, like you and a few others, I was all giddy and happy and this is gonna be great, and we'll be making money in a few months, and they just need a little time, and they've made a few mistakes, and this will take off, and back up the truck, and they'll report on time next time, and this year they'll make a profit, and soon they'll have oil and ng at the well head. . .on and on and on and on.

And just like you'd expect, after a long time I got tired of the plans and dreams and promises and excuses.

Hang around long enough, it'll get to you too. And all the other newbies that think UBRG is the best thing since Santa Claus.

Its time for real results. Or sell this thing to someone who can. Get some board members that can make this thing work for all the shareholders and management too. Please.

JMO

That's easy! No profit(ever)! More than $23 million in debt!

About 400,000,000 shares that are nearly worthless.

D o the math, it isn't pretty.

JMO

Did you write that or Hans Christian Anderson??

I really want UBRG to accomplish those things,
but how on Earth can you conjure up that scheme
when greater than 98% of the plans they put out so far
never happen?

Hey, I've got it bookmarked, will remind you at that time.
I hope you're right, but past performance isn't making it very believable.

JMO

I don't think so. . . more importantly you need to convince the PPS.

LOL JMO

Did you really prove that? The facts say otherwise!

JMO

MKendra's right there Locks!

In fact there was a Form NT filed 8/15/2008 and the next 10Q was not filed until 3/15/2010. The next 10K was after that.

And yes, I did use Edgar as you auggested.

There are several 10K Amendments that shore up the chaos as our current management was settling in. But not the required filing. They caught those up in 2010.

Regardless, PPS is in the toilet. 99% of the shares of long, loyal shareholders are about to evaporate into thin air if r/s happens, No profits in sight, and debt is growing. There are plans and dreams. And the hoax didn't help matters.

God help us longs, cause management ain't doing it!

JMO

Here's you two for 2010, you can look the rest of em up.

NT 10-Q



UNIVERSAL BIOENERGY, INC.

08/16/10

There's another one in November. Might Give Morningstar a try.

LOL JMO

You're right about UBRG being the winner!

UBRG: $23 million plus
Shareholders: 0.0065

And yes, since I've been here (2008) they have always filed late for each and every 10Q and 10K.
I'm sorry you can't find it,
but I have seen it with my own two eyes.

JMO

They sure waste a lot of time then,

Filing those Form NT's every time they are supposed to file something. . .LOL (ROFLMAO)


JMO

Jaded is one word for it. . .LOL

You may know Ken Harris and I'm sure he is a fine executive. but my impression is he only runs NDR. (Thank Goodness he does).

The upper management is the key to the PPS and avoiding a R/S.

Of course, if you (and I) really believe, the only way to profit from a R/S is to buy tens of millions of shares so you have some significant number of shares after a r/s.

I'm not doing it until I see some real progress on the plan.

JMO

Good Management = Good PPS and NO R/S

Good PPS Comes From Lots of Profit

Eliminating Debt, and Reporting On Time!

I agree with Rstrummin:
R/S for any company like UBRG that has no profit is POISON.

R/S might be good in certain situations where the PPS could be sustained, but that is not the case for UBRG in the foreseeable future. When Press Releases contain actual results, which are then reflected in the bottom line, that's when the institutional and deep pocketed investors get on board. Then it goes up into the clouds.


How much of Ali's Kool-Aid did you drink? LOL


JMO

Sure 6 days don't mean a thing, if it was once, or even every now and again, but it is every single time.

They have never (ever) filed on time.

That does mean a lot to someone or a company wanting to do serious business with UBRG.


JMO

Mergers and Acquisitions would be fine. . .

But financials need to improve first.
Its kinda like fishing,
if you use big bait, you get big fish,
small bait, you get small fish,
and no bait, you get no fish.

We ain't got no bait.

1. Get Lots of Profit
2. Reduce Debt
3. Avoid a Reverse Split
4. For Heaven's Sake - Report on Time
5. Sell to any company with a PPS of $10 or greater you can.

JMO

Yep, buyout was a hoax. So sad.

JMO

Please tell management about that. . .
It seems when they have sales, they make debt.
You're on to something they should be interested in.

LOL, JMO

Excuse me, reality here - Profits matter more than sales.
Avoiding r/s matters more than both.

Oh, and did I miss something??
UBRG bought a company that is a winner??
When did that happen. . . in the last few minutes??

LOL HaHaHaHa


JMO

Yeah, I gotta simple solution for you too. . .

All the cheerleading in the world ain't gonna move the PPS or avoid a r/s. Which is what is needed. Along with lots of profits, reducing debt and reporting on time. The simple thing to do would be to find a high PPS buyer, but the hoax probably put the brakes on that for awhile.

When management can actually do those, we'll be fine. And I'll cheerlead right along with you.

If management can accomplish these goals, the potential here is a whole lot better than investing in MSFT.
(I do own some of that too, by the way, thanks for the tip though).

So, I'm fine right where I'm at.
Long and realistic.

JMO

News??? More like DREAMS ! ! !

And old dreams at that.

Sure would be nice to see some news that did't require a safe harbor statement. News that annnounced that "this" really happened.

Come on UBRG, get something done!

JMO