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Good Morning Doc,Wacko, and all other early bird miners.Enjoy!
Shadera: Please continue with your back channel posts, I for one enjoy them and I'm sure many others here do too. It's fun to form OPINIONS on what they might ultimately reveal. So please continue with your teases. I'm looking forward to more FUN !
Thanx Jack
Hey A2: Are you going to post what you found out concerning the lab when you called Walter today?
Niiiiiiccceee!!!!
Call it a draw end2war and put that darn prod stick away.
Oh Yeah I didn't mention the mica you mentioned in your post:
Phlogopite is a mica common as very large plates in kimberlites.
Okay Shadera heres what I think applies to what you gleaned from your sources. First a review kimberlite an ultra-mafic rock is defined as follows;An alkalic peridotite containing abundant phenocrysts of olivine(commonly altered to serpentine or carbonate) and phlogopite (commonly chloritized), in a fine grained groundmass of calcite, second generation olivine,and phlogopite; with accessory ilmenite,serpentine,chloite,magnetite, and perovskite.
Another definition worth noting in your post is for a carbonatite; A carbonate rock of apparent magmatic origin, GENERALLY ASSOCIATED WITH KIMBERLITES and alkalic rocks.
I am assuming the carbonitized is what you heard and not carboniferous because when someone refers to the carboniferous,they are refering to a time period represented by the Mississippian and Pennsylvanian periods combined and the corresponding system of rocks which in the case of this area of the craton probably does not apply. Still everything you have provided in this posts and previous posts points to the likelihood that a kimberlite pipe has been located by NSDM.
Look you 2: We all have something to contribute here so please lets not be so quick to accuse and dimiss each other. For instance Shadera you have provided some good preliminary reporting (which I will expand on in another post shortly) A2Gems your timely discussions with the office are appreciated,and anyone here knows things can be quickly confirmed or denied or more importantly CLARIFIED when info doesn't match up so please do not divide over differences when they are easily sorted out when the personal remarks are omitted.
A2Gems and board members: Does any one here think these are the only 2 labs that could be employed by NSDM. Unless something has changed I dont think these are the companies doing the testing.
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Thanks A2Gems: I appreciate your knowledge. Will you be calling NSDM today?If you do will you ask when and where the financials will be released.
Would pressure be the cause of the distortion ? Or irregular growth of the crystal. I don't mean to quiz ,I would just like to know.
A good dose of chromium @ depth could do the trick or gold may impart that color during the formation of the carbon crystal. I'm obviously quessing, do you know what the dopant is to achieve that color?
I'm hopin for emerald green! What color would you like to see A2Gems?
A2Gems: Believe me I know not to hold my breath however it is nice and interesting when something new spawns the possibility of something unique and diverse from the norm. We shall see soon.
Doc: What Shadera has reported could be extrodinary. When she uses the term "primary discovery" that translates to "unique". The ramifications of a unique ultra-mafic rock being discovered within the claims area may be exciting to say the least.
For starters we may end up with a unique coloration of the diamonds which we all know could add tremendous value to any commercial pipe exploited.
Suffice to say for now it is good news that the material is ultra-mafic since all kimberlites and associated rocks usually are and as we have already talked about the surface shape and topography of the anamolies are consistant with "the pipes", so we are still on the right track.
Hey Shadera: Do you recall any of these rocks being mentioned?
Dunite,Lherzolite,Garnet Peridotite,or Griquaite.
Happy New Year Everybody! I have been reading the posts and someone asked why Walter is @ the Washington office? If I were a betting man I would quess he is there concerning the pending financials reporting. I think we should see the first reports shortly as part of the transistion to the BB. I hope this is the case as it will bode well for the pps during the month of Jan.
There is still the matter of the Ukraine update which I am very interested in as it may initiate the mini-bulk process. We seem to have alot of potential good news coming concerning all aspects of the company, in addition to the pending Canadian results.
Shadera: Do we now know,and is there someone who does hold the biggest slice of the pie or are the claims spread over many claimants?
I whole heartily agree, that's why I asked the question I asked.
Alright I'll bite: Is it better than just locating kimberlite?
"For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior,which is Christ the Lord" Merry Cristmas everyone!
Fick
Thank You Again Shadera: To those on the board who do not understand the significance of Shaderas' statement;" The ground mag on the Shire was exactly half the size of the airborne mag and COMPLETELY COINCIDENTAL WITH THE BOG I.E. SAME SIZE AND SHAPE" (caps added). In the last million years there has been identified 4 major glaciations, the Nebraskan,the Kansan, the Illinoian,and the Wisconsin in order of oldest to latest. Relativley speaking kimberlite is softer and weathers faster than the surrounding rocks of the Superior Province. So everytime a glaciation takes place a portion of the kimberlite pipe is scooped out deeper than the surrounding rocks. After numerous glaciation it becomes a noticeable topographical depression, that collects water and organic material thus a bog is formed to the dimension of the
land area of the pipe. This is significant and supports my GUESS that kimberlite has been located.
Shadera: How many sites have been checked so far? What are the names checked? Did the rig move to the next site? We appreciate your updates and I'll pray for your good fortune.
Thank you again Fick
Hey Gang: I have to get the hard part out of the way first "Go Browns" ouch that hurts!
Shadera: Thanks for the update. I think we have to assume kimberlite was found. The site had a geologist present did it not? So something of value was determined to justify the further testing and exspense. You never commented on the possibility if all the staking activity is in direct relationship to NSDM's activities.
Deann: The Shuan Spelliscy entry and the interest in gold in that area.
Sorta: Do you know that NSDM has it's on lab in the Ukraine. The results reported were preliminary they were reported as such. I would presume the further testing that was reported that is now taking place could be the other halves of the split cores being tested by the third party in North America, I do not know this, I am only quessing to make the point that to expect third party verification at this point in time is premature.
As a matter of fact I hope I am right because that would tell us that Walter saw something in these cores worth spending the resouces on disinterested party confirmation.
Deann: This is an applicable site for future referance. Everyone should understand that if Walter had reported this as a "sample" he would have been doubted much worse by the industry watchers and investors in the business of diamond exploration and his credibility would have suffered. This company is reportng preliminary exploration results that are probably handled in house for now,until such time as further verification is required for reporting to the industry.
As far as releasing who the drilling contractor is, it's my quess that it is another control measure to protect what ultimately is proprietory information to be released by the NSDM officers and not a drill hand after hours over a drink.
I'm the first to admit we would like or need a scoop, however in the long run it really doesn't serve any offical purpose.
Dan : Did you get a chance to look at the GPAA?
Hey A2Gems: Walter may not have any say in the scheduling. I know when the oil and gas rigs are operating it's 24/7 because they are busy. My quess is this is the season for this type of business and they (the drill companies)" have to make hay". Also I may be wrong on this but I understood the drilling for diamond test is done without diamond bits to prevent contamination of the sample. I would like to think Walter was responsible but I think we are going to find that these are terms he had to agree to.
Shadera: Thanx I quess I was hoping that it tied directly to NSDMs' activities to the south.
Due could reters be reuters?
I have question for the board. Lets say there is a stock trading around 5 dollars and the MM sees bids for 4.50 and 4.00 that fit the quanity of a sell @ market. Can the MM purchase that sell @ 4.25 and then fill that buy @ 4.50 netting the .25 as profit. If it happens is it legal.
Shadera: What do you suppose or what have you been told this could be attributed to? Thanx for the update please keep us informed. What is the size of your claims BTW.
Yeah I thought we was being real good! What is the source of your consternation Prince.
Hey Dan : Have you ever done any prospecting? You are in a great area. If you havn't may I suggest you search GPAA on your browser,it might just pique your interset. I see you are an outdoosrman as am I. I am a member of this organization and it fits very well with my outdoor recreation.
The organization is an advocate for access and private property rights also. Thought you might be interested.
, Due: Who is discounting the possibility of this company not being legit? I'm well aware of human nature in general. You say these things and it makes optimistic people like myself sound foolish. I'm not foolish and my eyes are wide open. However I also understand that the confirmations you are alluding to are forthcoming if the results warrant the corraberation. I also understand this company is now 6 months old with limited or at least earmarked funds to maximize the prospecting phase of this company. I understand the findings thus far are preliminary and to pay for third party verification for the sake of prceedure would be puffery when the results are going to be improved. Besides I know the industry standard requires a mini-bulk anyway so why would I as a shareholder want money spent on something that in the final analysis will mean nothing. Yes it would quiet some critics however someone like yourself is not going to be happy until you scratch the diamonds out of the cores yourself. I don't fault you for feeling that way that is your perogative, however I still say you focus on what serves your agenda instead of seeing the whole picture. Don't take the term agenda derrogatory if it is not. I appreciate your tempering posts what is not appreciated is your carte blanche condensending posts that are intended to belittle and strike premature doubt.
By the way you didn't answer End2 about your being a shareholder what's up?
Sorta I do agree with you on the major point of your post. That is that it takes a lot of faith. You know we can analyze every post, PR, and player until h*ll won't have any more of it. I don't think our faith is misplaced as yet. Walter has not lied to us that we know of and until we know otherwise we are in the mist of a major gut check. I have heard the saying you quoted also. No Walter is not a geologist however he is a gemologist and has years of experiance in the mining industry including work in the Ukraine. I quess all I'm saying is that Walter knows that saying also and as far I can tell is doing everything right. Again I have no crystal ball or years of experiance just alot of cautious faith.
Yes I'm ok with Walter personally confirming the results as I outlined in my previous post to you. As to your question concerning what the Ukraine govt.expects from NSDM it is less than 10% of gross or net I'm not sure which.
Ok Due let me put this another way to you. Who did you talk to at NSDM that told you the results are not being corraberated.
Surely you didn't just assume the results weren't verified did you? You know we are really trying to maintain an informational board here so please let us know who you talked to so we can confirm your allegation.
Thank you Sorta: No of course not, I was involved in a court battle years ago where I witnessed a grandmother look a judge right in the eye and told a story with so many lies in it that in the final ruling the judge laughingly admitted he had quit counting while reveiwing the transcripts.
After reveiwing the Bre-X story it became quite clear the people responsible for all the grandiose PRs and claims had been lied to by the field geologist. That being said it looks like Walter also knows the Bre-X story. I submit to you that you have helped me make my point to Due. Walter went personally to the Ukraine to confirm the drilling results before posting the results to the world in the form of the PR.
Walter probably confirmed the field teams findings and possibly made the decision as to which cores should have further testing done. He knows he is ultimately responsible for the information coming from his organization. He also has the background to know if someone blowing smoke concerning gemeological content.
This brings me to another point to consider, remember what a great time the likes of some on RB had concerning Walter having to go to the Ukraine personally well if what I'm saying is plausible then I would hope Walter is on every site or personally confirms all findings. Thanks again Sorta