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Skooby
You wake up sunday morning and post this?? You really live a sad, sad life. Would it make you feel better if I was rah, rah, rah again when things look horrible? I believed all of the crap shoveled before and almost none of it came to pass and see the same patterns starting all over again from the same people and I am supposed to just sit here and say great job?
JJ, I've been here for ~8 years and you haven't. I have listened and watched as the fluff and spin has turned to repetitiveness. We need a new guy in charge here, someone with the charisma, knowledge and the experience to actually go forward. We have spent ~8 years circling around waiting to land, which in itself is just madness. You obviously have a major tie to this stock and feel the need to defend it, which is great. Unfortunately for you and all the other shareholders currently that think your defending the stock, your actually hurting it. Leaving things status quo and not saying anything about changing it leaves little hope of the company changing it's ways.
I feel we really need an independent party to find us a head guy. Having the guy in charge now, pick the person in charge will only lead us to someone who he values. Since he has does nothing to further this stock, his opinion is invalid and should not be a major consideration. Is he going to give an onterview and know what we need, even though he has lead us nowhere?
If you want the SP to go up, call for a change and stop defending what doesn't work. Have the company employ a headhunting agency and find someone talented enough with the desire to come aboard and do the work necessary for it to succeed. MS can train them on what he has done, so they know not to go over that again. That's the least he can do after making us wasted nearly a decade on chasing rainbows and going nowhere.
Where is that financing, 90 days away?? The IND is due in 2004,05, 06, 07, yeah sure keep the dream alive, What a joke. The funniest part is some of you still believe it.
1st base, lol.
Is this really important?
Lots of big buys??
Volume: 95,877
How many big buys are in there PN??
Pump, pump, pump it makes my stock go up right?? Umm no, reality is we have some news coming and a few people got word of it and are buying some shares in anticipation of the news. I guess if you gain a in person audience you get some inside news and shouldn't discuss things in a open forum.
Please make room for a new leader, someone who can make the stock go up for good.
What financing?? Where is there financing?? When do you people get that their idea of financing is dilution. Financing is like when you borrow money to buy something and owe a note.
This company thinks financing is calling up their friends and saying hey do you want to buy $.10 shares? That's called dilution, not financing. Who in the banking world is going to lend a company and expect them to pay it back when they have to admit on every Q-statement that they will not be profitable, are a high risk and wil lose money for years. Banks and normal people don't lend on that type of thing, especially now.
I am really just trying to keep things straight here. If you would like to see our last financing, just look under the debt statement for us.
I have an idea Arnold, let's go on his words instead of what the Q-reports say about our income and banking. We have heard about major financing for 8 years now and to this day we have nothing.
I warned all of you when these guys start bringing up financing & deals, it ends up meaning dilution and lawsuits. They are incapable of handling business transactions like this and do not understand what they are undertaking. Whoever our lawyers are that have let us do some of these previous deals are just as much to blame as the management but either way these guys have no idea what they are doing.
The PPS may go up to $.55 if they get the hype machine going and then the outgoing management is going to want a nice parachute of Millions of shares on the way out the door for setting all of this magic up. Mind my words, we have nothing here, nothing at all.
Same BS, we have financing. Oh sure is it within 90 days again??
New deals with company X, monies earned = $0.
Permitting sounds great but there is a long way between getting the money to pay for the building and getting a permit. Anyone can ask for a permit to build, getting a bank or the money to pay for it is another thing.
NEW CEO?? Sure, let's see if it's the cousin of our rap marketing dept. first before we jump for joy.
SynDNA shipments continue to grow and our revenue is near $0. Are we sending things for free?
I believe zero of what I hear and half of what I see when this company talks, after 8 years it's the only way to look at things. Promises of better times and great things are long past for these boys, let's get a new crew in and see what they can do.
This isn't a bash post, this is a reality post. Everyone can take their orange helmets off now and start looking around again.
What do they have a patent on ?
Vical really looks good here, wow:
Product Development
Product Description Project Target/ Indication(s) Development Status (1) Primary Developer
INDEPENDENT PROGRAMS
Infectious disease vaccine Cytomegalovirus Phase 2 Vical
" Pandemic influenza Preclinical Vical
Cancer immunotherapeutic Allovectin-7®, metastatic melanoma Phase 3 Vical
" IL-2/EP, metastatic melanoma Phase 1 Vical
CORPORATE COLLABORATIONS
Infectious disease vaccine HIV Phase 1 Merck
" Hepatitis B virus Research Merck
" Hepatitis C virus Research Merck
Tumor-associated antigen therapeutic vaccine HER-2 and CEA; breast, colorectal, ovarian, or non-small cell lung cancer Phase 1 Merck
" Unspecified cancer (2) Research Merck
Angiogenic growth factor HGF, peripheral arterial disease Phase 3 AnGes/Daiichi Pharma
" HGF, ischemic heart disease Phase 1 AnGes/Daiichi Pharma
" FGF-1, peripheral arterial disease Phase 2 Sanofi-Aventis
Preventive infectious disease vaccine Apex-IHN®, infectious hematopoietic necrosis virus in salmon Marketed in Canada Aqua Health
" Various undisclosed (2) Research - Clinical Merial
Therapeutic cancer vaccine (animal health) Canine melanoma Conditional U.S. license Merial
GOVERNMENT COLLABORATIONS
Infectious disease vaccine Ebola virus Phase 1 NIH
" West Nile virus Phase 1 NIH
" SARS coronavirus Phase 1 NIH
" HIV Phase 2 NIH
I'd rather see a very full bank then a very full plate. Again what management has said from this company in the past means 0. They never finish anything and chase a new rainbow every few months, leaving behind whatever they did. Whatever was said about being busy in the past has translateed to nothing in the bank before, so I'll take the history lesson's word first.
That being said, if this ties in from a separate source that Vical and CYGX are together hand in hand and we are the main supplier, we will have something here. Let's see how things go this week and if CYGX says anything first, we'll go from there.
We may see some news about this from CYGX's side as well but I wish that Vical would of named their benefactors here. It would be nice go know that we had an order from them and we are technically in a clinical trial in some way shape or fashion. That would really help the SP as well but if it's not related to CYGX, we are basically sc***ed.
I fear we may not be involved and would of heard something about this being tied to CYGX in some way. I guess this maybe a make or break week for this stock, let's hope our senior citizen pulled a rabbit out of his hat. I've been standing on the trigger for a huge order for myself and would love to have some massive news, someone please hold me down.
I was on Iggy for 5 minutes?
"--> you are on iggy for now. Come to papa with something tasty then I'll reconsider."
Your up pretty late peddling this gem, aren't ya? Trying to deflect the questions back to me are ya? I'll wait until we have someone in there worth listening to in person that sets realistic goals and that can follow a self-made timeline. 90 days until full financing, what was he thinking??
If he cannot tell the difference between a done deal and a chance at a deal, this company is done. He can have his tea and put guards up to keep Hogger out but let his wife by.
I hope he sets one more timeline he can follow, his departure. That in itself will be a moment CYGX has a chance, it has little chance until then.
Take care FF, your young but I like your style!!!!
That a boy, curl up in that ball and say everything is going to be allright soon. It's just around the corner, 90 days away, one quarter away.
I heard all of that way, way to much. I guess everyone here can still stomach it but I really cannot.
I have a few shares laying around and I have no real interest to attend the SH meeting. Until the guy that's starts the meeting isn't there, there is nothing to talk about. What could he possibly say that is going to come to fruition here anyways? 90 days to full Financing? IND's? Patents? Cures? Antibacterials? Ebola cure? Bird flu cures? Mokey sperm count better yet? JV's? None of those have worked out yet and just gotten us lawsuits or both. The monkey sperm count is next, soI'll give them a chance to have the cure to next weeks headlines.
Keep repeating yourself over and over again, it will make it all better. Here I'll help- CYGX will go up, CYGX will go up. The management knows what they are doing,The management knows what they are doing.
Wow, I don't feel any better do you?
How about the SEC investigation is not real, the SEC investigation is not real. There is an IND coming, There is an IND coming. After 8 years a patent will come through thanks to the patent attorney in charge, After 8 years a patent will come through thanks to the patent attorney in charge. CYGX will cure Lung cancer, staph, strep, bird flu, ebola, low monkey sperm count......... Rinse, & repeat.
It madness to even think this way.
Let's play connect the fantasy dots now:
We are curing HPV............Someone else made a vaccine.
We are going to have 3 IND's by early 2007...........Mid 2007 no dice
We are going to get full financing within 90 days......... pie in the sky dreams
Our antibacterials will change how germs spread and grow......... Is this line dead, hello?
We will set all the crabs worldwide free of despair.........all we have is despair
Any timeline ever written by this company............ oh man oh mighty, not even by a long shot
Phanuel pursuits will spread our product all over east Asia........ Offshore group gave us $5 and a legal bill
See a pattern here? Please defend and discuss these actions.
We'll know if this is going to get better when I read a quarterly statement on the right side of zero, until then please pump away, rah rah rah, go team.
It's sad that all of you attack me and do nothing to defend facts i raise or the problems I ask about. Find me credible sources and things that show we are heading the right way. No Fluff PR's or games, just hard facts. Find a timeline that's been followed and followed through on. How about IND's, we should be about 3 deep now and we have 0.
Oh look, another rainbow over there. Lets go make a press release about how we can cure that as well. Next we'll hear monkey balls are shriveling up and we can help with their sperm count. Oh wait, that will fall under that animal cure we had and that's already given to the old guard here. Oh well I guess as long as the monkey has a good sperm count, who cares about making money / or an income right?
Since when do facts and credibility have to go hand in hand? All of you again attacking the poster instead of the facts. Please come up with reasons why to buy and stay in this, not the technology is the only thing that matters. 99% of you have no idea what this technology is capable of and the other 1% doesn't know what to do with it, so where are we going?
Find a new target, I am not the problem here.
P.S. The technology rarely rises above the people who drive it home, we have 0 drivers aboard this management team.
I can see this is going to be our next lawsuit, it happens everytime we try to do a deal.
I'm actually Joking, sorry I had to do it.
Smoke, mirrors and more speculation. I'll buy it when I see the final B & W, until then lets see some meat.
Things looked better then, I wised up and called it right. Are you like pleased with the current SP or something?
Why are you attacking me personally, I am not doing that am I? You keep coming after me and threatening me? I'm negative, I'm a pumper and a liar, wow you got all that from me putting up facts for all to discuss here, real good there.
How about someone post something besides fluff PR's as a positive development here? Show me some major income that matters?? Even if we did earn $100,000 somewhere in the near future would it matter with a $300,000 a month burn rate?
I am not trying to challenge anyone personally on here, I would just like rational explanations as to why to stay involved in this company and when & why to buy more of it. So far all I here is I am bad liar, previous pumper ........... Find a new target to attack, I am not the problem I assure you.
Yes I do, remember I got the SH meeting proxy thing and posted it on here? It's not that I want to destroy this company or the SP, I would just like to see changes at the top of it. I want someone there that is held accountable for their actions and does exactly what they say, no more no less. Hearing pie in the sky things for the past 8 years and chasing rainbows is no way to live. We all want this to skyrocket but to have it stay there and grow will take fundamental changes in how they do business. 8 years + is long enough to wait for something good to happen, it's time to change the coach.
If the coach of any major sport went into every season promising a championship and then you we're like the worst team in the league ever year, how many years would it take you to call for his ouster? Isn't 8 years of relative failure long enough? Calling out patents and other stuff as a chance is great but if we aren't getting a patent after ~8 years of trying, I don't think it's coming. I mean we we're shooting to cure HPV and they made a vaccine for it in the mean time. By the time we get a bankable item in, patented, through clinical trials, approved by the FDA and marketable, it will be way too late. The edsel looked great in it's day but calling it a new car now is more than far flung.
I have been warning everyone here for over a year that this was coming, it shocked everyone that I wasn't all razzed up about the stock and I then get labeled a basher. A basher cannot back up facts nor is he / she finding logical problems to discuss and tackle, he just rah rah's against the stock. I have merely pointed out many things that the company promised and didn't deliver. The stock is down over 70% from that point and yet I am a bad person, uummm I think not. We are also witnessing the highest point totals of the Dow, SP........ that we have seen in a long time, yet this stock continues to falter and fall. So why doesn't everyone here blame me for that as well instead of discussing and seeking out what problems to really discuss and fix it?
I am not the problem here, nor have I ever been and if many of you had listened to just what I said about a year ago you would be up at least 70% or more if you held the same amount of shares to this day. Blame your SP crash on the folks who deserve it, let them know how you feel.
I had a change of heart and I am very sorry to disappoint many of you. I came out about obvious problems and my displeasure almost a year ago and have been right ever since. Your acting like the stock wasn't at like $1.50 ~1 year ago and has fallen ever since. Did you ever think to realize that the influx of cash CYGX got was the shareholders who sold their private holdings publically and rebought from CYGX directly at a much better price? Is that the reason CYGX is getting investigated?
The timing of the huge influx of cash and then the subsequent crashing of the SP makes me think this is what happened. Those standing in the front of the line got favorably treated but didn't count on the SP crashing like it has. Now their repurchase price is higher than the SP & they are ******* a brick. I say good for them & their greed, they deserve eachother.
Many of the pumpers on here will beg you to hang on, even post all night long about how good this company is and what you'll miss. What's really missing is real management and an income to justify holding on to this stock. Are we ready for those IND's yet?
JJ, You have been posting on here for hours in the middle of the night trying to convince yourself everything is going just fine. Look at the chart, the firing of key personnel and the SEC investigation and your telling me the sky is blue & sunny at CYGX land?
I glad all of you pumpers are so pleased with the companies progress, I am not. I think it's been a nightmare for a while now and government agencies are dealing with CYGX, it's just the wrong one's. You do not want the SEC in your door investigating, ever.
So as I sit here and the share price has crashed and we have a leader that can no longer lead, should I buy shares and load up for the big one?? Welcome to fantasy Island.
Good to see you pointing fingers again PN, really mature of you. I'm glad to see you are accomplished at Rah, rah, rah. You also have quite a mastery at pulling up press releases that have equaled almost no bankable events. We sold out technology to ____________ and then they file the quarterly's and they say $0. How do you sell something for nothing? Future gain and goodwill?? That is not a sale, that is a hope for gain and not a sale. I guess in the 1940's & 1950's, the definition of a sale is different from now. I take a sale as something that registers in the register, how do you take it?
What argument am I making that makes me a basher? I am only pointing out facts that have transpired, nothing more. I have been calling this fall for a while now and I am a basher? I think I am more of a realist here than anything and have pointed out all the signs of problems. Can anyone consider LW & FV being fired and the ongoing SEC investigation a good sign or a bad sign?
Folks, believe what you want but common sense must tell you that all is not right at the company. These things do not happen all in a short time unless there was a problem.
You can laugh at me all you want, reality is some very foolsih people on here think they have the blue hope diamond, when they just have hope. Hope will not pay your bills, nor will it help CYGX.
You sound like a child with a dream, I am going to laugh at you when this happens. I mean really man we are all adults here and acting like we are going to miss out on something is just lunacy. Posts like this just show how you think and behave, a trait I have dealt with before, hmmm.
You think the SH meeting is going to blow our doors off?
Is there a verifiable bankable event in any of those PR's? If not please follow the format below that are known things that we're supposed to be "great things" but have given us almost nothing to speak of in return of value, thanks:
Please just exclude the following items in a positive light: profits, timelines, upper management compentence, a positive result from the SEC investigation, patents pending, buildings / facilties getting built, cures for lung cancer-eye illnesses-staph-strep-herpes-AIDS-ebola-bird flu-antibacterials, a positive handling of stock reserves, stock compensation of millions of shares for upper management, loss of most of the scientific advisory board, ability to file SEC documents on time or accurately, our marketing / rap star manager, the 1 year chart, current & prospective JV's, lawsuits after every deal, selling our technology for almost nothing to an offshore company that supposedly ruled most of east asia / japan and the subsequent Billion $ lawsuit, the amount we have spent in attorney fees defending ourselves after poor judgement leads us into lawsuit after lawsuit, the divine bovine case, curing all the shrimp and crustaceans (I still have no idea WTF that was all about), all the time and effort wasted arguing about saving horses and the technology that is so invaluable, a info loaded / updated web-site.
What's truly sad is MS is worried about what is said on here and obviously tells people to avoid chatting on here. I think he needs to focus more on finding us a new CEO and less time worrying about what we are saying on here. We should not be a relevant factor on here, nor a guide to his actions. He needs to focus on his job at hand, leaving.
First of all I don't speak with LW in anyway, shape of fashion. Secondly, what are all these "great things" you speak of?? I gave you a list of previous problems and hijinks that transpired and you claim "great things". Please elaborate on "great things" that CYGX is doing. We all want this knowledge and it might help some of us that are less fortunate than you get enlightened. I want to go to the promised land with you, please tell me why.
$.10? Try $.02 at best. Who in there right mind is going to buy this stock when the SEC is investigating it? What happens if they find illegal activities and decide to delist the stock? Will the pink sheets be kind?
The only play on this is to walk away until questions are answered. I'd rather pay more for a company with a solid management staff, a realistic plan they will adhear to and an income. None of those are at play here. Toss in a SEC investigation and a recent firing of 2/3 of the people in charge and their lawsuits and leaving with millions of shares out the door, you have a nightmare waiting in the wings.
You all just have to ask yourself one question here: If this we're a marriage (which buying a stock is in a monietary way), is it worth getting laid when you know your going to get screwed?
So he walks around the place and it makes him a smart man? I walk around a penthouse all day, everyday. So I guess I am a genius right? That's not how it works, not in real life.
The actions over the past 8 years and utter inability to move forward tells me everything I need to know about the management.
He's in the front of the line, so he'll pitch to keep everyone aboard on here. It's typical to see rah, rah and how great we are but have me ask simple questions and never get a response. You cannot respond to a bad chart, poor management and horrible decisions.
They don't like hearing the truth over there and convinced you to stay off of here I see. Well goodluck with the dreams and your investment. I have a chart to show you as well, you can read it for an hour. The chart will show you how things are really going there. Try to get with LW and FV and get their tour, I bet it will be a little less rosy of a picture and ask then what they are going to do with their millions of shares. I fear they will have a large say on how the SP looks, all downhill.
Ksnca, I wish you all the best. I hope all your dreams come true and you find the golden nugget, take care.
JJ, If you would like to give us a page on all the positives we currently have going for us, I would sure like to read them. Please just exclude the following items in a positive light: profits, timelines, upper management compentence, a positive result from the SEC investigation, patents pending, buildings / facilties getting built, cures for lung cancer-eye illnesses-staph-strep-herpes-AIDS-ebola-bird flu-antibacterials, a positive handling of stock reserves, stock compensation of millions of shares for upper management, loss of most of the scientific advisory board, ability to file SEC documents on time or accurately, our marketing / rap star manager, the 1 year chart, current & prospective JV's, lawsuits after every deal, selling our technology for almost nothing to an offshore company that supposedly ruled most of east asia / japan and the subsequent Billion $ lawsuit, the amount we have spent in attorney fees defending ourselves after poor judgement leads us into lawsuit after lawsuit, the divine bovine case, curing all the shrimp and crustaceans (I still have no idea WTF that was all about), all the time and effort wasted arguing about saving horses and the technology that is so invaluable, a info loaded / updated web-site.
Think about it for a while JJ, come up with some positive things and just exclude the above items. After writing all of that and it being all accurate, it seems a little silly to even try to doesn't it?
Yes, I would like to talk about credibility. I have been down on CYGX for a long time now and the stock has plummeted just like I said it would. You keep trying to pump it as it falls, so please tell me who is more credible here?
There have been obvious signs of problems, like SEC investigations / loss of most of our scientific board & upper management. The SP has also plummeted drastically and the chart for the past year looks like a double black diamond slope but you keep trying to polish the stock up but why?
It really makes no good sense for you to do this unless you have something to gain. I have nothing to gain by all of this happening and it would take a mass exodus by the major shareholders to drop it to a level I feel this is worth with the current level of info I have.
I only see future problems right now, nothing positive. You keep looking back at times when we had what looked to be good guidance and a direction but we have now come to know that was all BS. This company has failed to deliver on every promise it has made and it has nothing to justify any major investment. Any timeline written, nearly every promise broken but yet you see hope through all these clouds of problems.
Those of you who bought in on the hype and above the $.40 level, I would seriously say your prayers.
JJ, If you would like to give us a page on all the positives we currently have going for us, I would sure like to read them. Please just exclude the following items in a positive light: profits, timelines, upper management compentence, a positive result from the SEC investigation, patents pending, buildings / facilties getting built, cures for lung cancer-eye illnesses-staph-strep-herpes-AIDS-ebola-bird flu-antibacterials, a positive handling of stock reserves, stock compensation of millions of shares for upper management, loss of most of the scientific advisory board, ability to file SEC documents on time or accurately, our marketing / rap star manager, the 1 year chart, current & prospective JV's, lawsuits after every deal, selling our technology for almost nothing to an offshore company that supposedly ruled most of east asia / japan and the subsequent Billion $ lawsuit, the amount we have spent in attorney fees defending ourselves after poor judgement leads us into lawsuit after lawsuit, the divine bovine case, curing all the shrimp and crustaceans (I still have no idea WTF that was all about), all the time and effort wasted arguing about saving horses and the technology that is so invaluable, a info loaded / updated web-site.
Think about it for a while JJ, come up with some positive things and just exclude the above items. After writing all of that and it being all accurate, it seems a little silly to even try to doesn't it?
Dreaming of a major income just leads me to believe how credible you are Guts. It's sad to bring up something the company has never done well before, which is generating a real income. If you count on this company having a large income, you should look at it's history first.
Please dream at night, not during the day.
I will buy back when the company is @ $.03 and at this current pace, I'll start moving the money now. If you think you think you have seen a big certificate being cashed, you haven't anything yet. Plan on seeing at least one of the big kids falling out, that will finish the SP and leave it near worthless. Keep listening to the yahoo's on here mumble about the big score coming and we're coming back soon crap. I plan on seeing a major shift in the ownership coming up and the management. When all that happens the SP will surely suffer, it's just common sense. Then again when you have guys like you standing in the front of the line telling me & others it's going to be OK while the SP crashes I know which way to walk. Time to walk far away from here and let the party crash and come in when there are only pieces left.
This ship has sailed, right toward the jagged rocks.