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EDIT: Most brokers won’t let you short Bulletin Board stocks (OTC:BB) because they aren’t marginable in the first place. Same with most stocks under $5. And IPO’s usually aren’t marginable for 30 days after they start to trade.
Sometimes the rules protect you from your own worst instincts. That’s the idea.
This is an excerpt from the link below, a primer on short selling.
hhttp://www.tradingstocksguide.com/investing-stocks/short-selling.php
Its not on list because the brokerage houses will not loan shares on this equity.
Since they have an endless supply of conversion shares available they do not have to talk to any one about it.
unfortunately the chart is moot since when you look at the trades you can see that they were staged transactions. but whatever. traders will do what works for them and i hope they make money. if it were me i would not hold 1 share overnight. i would be in and out so fast you couldnt see my shadow.
As I posted before, they need to create the appearance of demand. They have been shorting the stock all along, they then get additional shares to make up for the drop in the PPS, then they create the mirage, people start placing orders that are not immediately filled, it makes it look like their are no sellers, the backlog builds and the price goes up, when they get the backlog they like, they drop their shares, the pending orders get filled and they make a freaking fortune. this is the classic death spiral debenture scheme. Then all support disappears, just like what happened here after Dec 28th run-up, price plummets and they set the stage again, rinse and repeat.
ACE, IT WOULD NOT SURPRISE ME IF THIS IS PART OF THE STAGING THAT IS NECESSARY FOR THE HUGE CONVERSION AND DUMP (LANKTREE?) THAT IS RUMORED TO BE IN THE WORKS. AS MUCH AS $1 MILLION DOLLARS WORTH.
FOLLOWED UP BY ANOTHER SWAP.
Time Price Volume Exchange
15:59:57 0.0035 10000 OBB
15:59:45 0.0035 10000 OBB
RE - EDIT: ACE, the trades below show that almost exactly the same number of shares moved just a little while ago (1,558,000 vs 1,566,000). an 8,000 share or $25 variance. If you go thru the math and analyze the individual trades I don't think this is a coincidence. In my opinion this was also a ploy to create the appearance of demand
15:12:20 0.003 200000 OBB
15:12:18 0.003 200000 OBB
14:53:04 0.003 579000 OBB
14:53:02 0.003 579000 OBB
Dog, I think Nickel is clear that ASR is just a trading device that has nothing to do with an operating company. He's good with that.
EDIT: absolutely correct nickel, ASR is not an investment vehicle, this is purely a tradeable vapor that has no correlation to the operations of the company. They could be selling chalk. It doesn't matter. ASR is, for all intents and purposes a ship that is a drift on the ocean.
What happens on board is irrelevant.
As long as ASR is listed and tradeable then the traders simply game each other and the debenture holders are running a high tech ponzi scheme.
They create an illusion of demand for ASR common and let the backlog build then they dump and the whole impetus disappears.
some big swaps, just passing back and forth. Illusion of volume and demand.
Time Price Volume Exchange
14:53:04 0.003 579000 OBB
14:53:02 0.003 579000 OBB
14:52:55 0.003 21000 OBB
14:45:03 0.0035 95190 OBB
14:42:31 0.0036 13000 OBB
13:53:50 0.0038 40000 OBB
13:19:38 0.0038 49800 OBB
12:46:28 0.004 9000 OBB
12:46:25 0.004 241000 OBB
12:22:55 0.004 95000 OBB
12:22:50 0.004 5000 OBB
I'm sure that you have read my posts regarding the ASR convertible debentures and the conversion shares and the covenants, so I won't rain on anyone's parade here. Good luck. Keep your eyes open and make the decisions that are right for you.
good for you ..good luck ACE! Keep your eyes open though.
ASR PPS recovers at the close on a 29 cent trade
Time Price Volume Exchange
15:44:12 0.0028 105 OBB
ASR INTRA DAY TRADE DETAIL AS OF 12:45 pm TODAY
Time Price Volume Exchange
11:58:34 0.003 100000 OBB
11:58:19 0.0025 254000 OBB
11:58:17 0.0026 20000 OBB
11:56:50 0.0026 85000 OBB
11:55:11 0.0029 50000 OBB
11:54:19 0.0026 5000 OBB
11:54:12 0.0028 5000 OBB
09:33:33 0.003 35000 OBB
09:30:16 0.003 365 OBB
09:30:08 0.003 47033 OBB
09:30:08 0.003 5000 OBB
EDIT: you're welcome tytluv/totfee/lagunaseca1.
By the way you posted elsewhere that there was a 400k share buy at the close yesterday at the ask...can you please provide a link to that? It does not show up anywhere? No where...nada...zip...zilch...maybe its in a special trade display place..if so I and others would love to know about it...
Thanks in advance
no trades since 9:37 am, just shares being offered here.
extremely quiet in ASR land. Only one post before this. That one is offering access to large blocks of shares....
EDIT: I am sure that many believe there is manipulation in the ASR common, it is unfortunate that many unsuspecting traders have been led to believe that news was coming etc., in an effort to create an illusion of demand of the ASR common. It has never held a pop in the PPS longer than was necessary for the holders to dump their shares into the float.
The last POP in Dec was around 900% and with 7 trading days almost all of that evaporated.
I had predicted here (see below) that a pop was coming after I saw the SEC filing disclosing that Granite was exercising it's death spiral conversion right.
I also predicted that said pop would not reach or exceed .02 and would be very short lived as that is a critical point in optimizing the profiteering in the death spiral debenture they held.
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Tuesday, December 20, 2011 3:17:30 PM
Re: doggone post# 52935
Post # of 53574
He may have a shot Dog. As long as he bails at the very first chance and does not get greedy or bamboozled.
There may in fact be a bump right after the 1st or just before, but i doubt it will exceed .02
if that in fact happens, I am convinced it will plummet immediately
Imagine that! almost a million shares traded in two identical trades in two seconds..... manipulation? Naaaah just a coincidence, must mean there is big news coming tomorrow. Bayer is probably going to buy ASR, or is ASR buying Bayer?
Time Price Volume Exchange
14:28:06 0.0031 465461 OBB
14:28:05 0.0031 465461 OBB
a new first... a .75 cent trade
Time Price Volume Exchange
13:07:11 0.0031 250 OBB
12:44:46 0.0031 34289 OBB
12:38:55 0.003 300000 OBB
12:38:37 0.0031 125000 OBB
11:29:32 0.0031 95000 OBB
RE-EDIT:
AS I WAS SAYING
10:29:23 0.0029 53500 OBB
10:29:20 0.0029 225000 OBB
10:28:29 0.0029 143636 OBB
10:14:00 0.0031 100000 OBB
What I am seeing in today's trade details as of approx 1/2 hour ago, is at least three instances of probable self trading in ASR common shares. In my opinion and as per several published articles, this can and often does happen when the individuals that are looking to dump their converted ASR shares are trying to create an illusion of demand for the equity in question. Once that illusion has been created the potential buyers of ASR common begin to place buy orders that go unfulfilled, UNTIL there is a level of backlogged orders that is acceptable to the seller in question. At that point the shares are dumped and the support for ASR common disappears and the process re-sets and repeats itself..over and over and over and over...just my opinion based on what I see and what I read, much of what i have read has been published here fully attributed and verifiable.
Time Price Volume Exchange
10:14:00 0.0031 100000 OBB
10:06:30 0.003 66600 OBB
10:06:28 0.003 66600 OBB
10:05:59 0.0031 5000 OBB
10:05:59 0.0031 5000 OBB
10:04:24 0.0033 75000 OBB
09:42:31 0.0033 23728 OBB
09:42:30 0.0033 6272 OBB
09:34:16 0.0033 73500 OBB
4nkool, my referenced posts contain factual and verifiable information regarding the status of ASR and contain specific data regarding their market status versus their competitors, their published regulatory filings, the filings by their convertible debenture holders, their margins, their numerous notes in default, the lock box cures to those defaults as well as giving pepe an over view in response to a direct question re CVS.
To the best of my knowledge,facts are not one sided and have never been considered rants and bashing.
good luck with your investment.
amazing how much ASR stock you can buy for under $250., even when paying well over the ask.
Time Price Volume Exchange
09:34:16 0.0033 73500 OBB
EDIT: Good morning Tytluv/Totfee/Lagunaseca1
I am posting relevant ASR information that has been asked about by pepemartinez in Spain.
These posts regarding ASR and its non existent shelf presence, are intended to clarify both the company's status as compared to it's competitors, as well as the trade's receptivity to ASR and it's products in their physical stores.
As a frame of reference, While no retailer carries the ASR thermometer in their stores, CVS, Walgreen's (approx 18,000 stores combined) as well as all of the other drug chains do carry other brands of non-contact thermometers in the store. Walgreen's carries several and CVS carries 2. All of the regional chains as well as Rite-Aid carry at least one brand. The prices in store run from $29.99 to $55.00.
You can go online to sec.gov and look up the ASR regulatory filings (focus on the 10K filed in April or May of 2011) and read the disclosures regarding their debentures and the fact that they in default.
Then you should look at the ASR disclosures in that same filing regarding the creditors legally controlling the cash flows and inventory.
EDIT: Pepe, keep in mind that ASR has pledged (I believe the word in Spanish is hipotecado ) all of their accounts receivables gross profits and inventories as a guarantee for all of their loans which are in default. This is done through a protocol commonly referred to as a a lock box, The creditors/lenders legally and contractually control all of the inventory, all of the money flows and take their part before ASR sees one cent. So they actually see no true revenue, and must fund all of their operating, selling and marketing costs from incremental equity capital inflows (dilution) and incremental toxic borrowing.
EDIT: The relevance to the post is that CVS like every other major customer in the USA does not carry the ASR products in their stores. They only sell it online and that is drop shipped.
Drop shipped means that when the CVS online shopper/customer orders the item, CVS transmits the order to ASR, ASR then packages and ships the individual unit to the customer. CVS collects the payment via credit card then sends the payment for the unit to ASR through the lock box that is in place favoring the creditors to control the money and inventory.
The reality is that this places the burden of all of the inventory carrying costs, the logistics cost, the handling costs and financing costs on ASR.
CVS pays the same price as they would if they carried it in the stores, ASR has a significant additional cost of sales thereby cannibalizing their margin which is already about 1/2 of the traditional package goods margin.
Typically in brand name package good like the ASR thermometers have a cost architecture that is as follows, The floor cost of an item (the total cost of materials, manufacturing, packaging, financing of these and allocated overhead and labor once it is a finished good and on the factory floor. This needs to be about 10% to 15% of the end user (consumer) retail price.
So if something costs $10.00 to buy on line or in a store, the floor cost needs to be under $1.50 in order to support selling costs, administrative costs, marketing costs and still yield about a standard 40% to 50% gross profit. That the allows for a reasonable margin after a series of off-sets that occur in the due course of business.
ASR's cost on their thermometer is $12.50 USD, their front line wholesale is $19.50 USD.
This yields approx 34.5% gross margin before any marketing costs, trade related expenses (returns, damages etc), logistics, and price supports.
This is really a private lable cost architecture so the net weighted operating margin is almost nil.
CVS is the second largest drug store chain in the US with approximately 8000 stores.
and 18 distribution centers, the largest being in up-state New York with about 800,000 square feet.
http://www.cvs.com/CVSApp/user/home/home.jsp
They also have an online store.
I believe that when some folks were saying that the MM's were loading up and they were buying in, what was likely happening is that the converting shares were being dumped and the unsuspecting were lured by the UNFOUNDED RUMORS to buy the shares. Then they dropped the 8K re Faber and everyone was led to believe that this was "THE BIG MOVE" and the PPS soared for no good reason, allowing more shares to be dumped. Remember that a lot of insider shares have been registered in the last 120 days. Was Mr. Taylor not sitting on a ton of shares as well? I would not be surprised to find out that Faber got stock too.
Time Price Volume Exchange
15:49:24 0.0029 51020 OBB
15:45:04 0.003 200000 OBB
14:53:35 0.003 130300 OBB
14:39:31 0.003 25000 OBB
14:39:09 0.003 25000 OBB
14:38:33 0.0031 19700 OBB
14:38:08 0.0031 300000 OBB
14:24:45 0.0032 100000 OBB
14:06:37 0.0031 250 OBB
13:52:10 0.0032 750 OBB
13:07:44 0.003 800000 OBB
13:07:36 0.0032 21000 OBB
13:07:31 0.0031 79000 OBB
13:01:57 0.0031 20000 OBB
12:42:55 0.0032 100000 OBB
12:42:09 0.003 721750 OBB
12:40:24 0.003 250000 OBB
12:38:54 0.003 28250 OBB
12:38:47 0.0031 101000 OBB
12:38:39 0.0031 150000 OBB
12:38:37 0.0031 250000 OBB
12:38:19 0.0031 300000 OBB
12:37:41 0.0032 50000 OBB
12:37:40 0.0032 120750 OBB
11:31:48 0.0032 79250 OBB
10:32:57 0.0032 20328 OBB
10:32:56 0.0032 50000 OBB
10:32:49 0.0032 134750 OBB
09:45:01 0.0032 65250 OBB
09:30:16 0.0031 450 OBB
EDIT: This article which was published by a prestigious securities law firm, clearly describes the death spiral financing strategy, their structure and likely fallout. If you look at the ASR convertible debentures and their attendant SEC filings, I believe you will see a direct parallel.
Copyright @2008 Procopio, Cory, Hargreaves & Savitch LLP. All rights reserved. www.procopio.com ¦ 1
CLOGGING THE PIPES: THE SEC CRACKS DOWN ON "DEATH SPIRAL" CONVERTIBLES
By John P. Cleary, Esq.
Procopio, Cory, Hargreaves & Savitch LLP
PIPE is an acronym for a private
investment in public equity. In a PIPE,
a publicly traded company issues
securities with a commitment to
register the securities for resale
promptly upon closing the
transaction. The Securities and
Exchange Commission (SEC) has
permitted PIPE transactions through
Rule 152 under the Securities Act of
1933, as amended, which provides a
safe harbor for issuers completing
private placement offerings and
subsequently registering the
securities for resale to the public.
Typically, the SEC raises no objection
when securities are privately placed
with the closing of the transaction
contingent on the filing or
effectiveness of a resale registration
statement as long as (a) the
purchasers in the private placement
are irrevocably bound to purchase the
securities subject only to the filing or
effectiveness of the registration
statement, and (b) the purchase price
is established at the time of the
private placement. These are known
as "traditional" PIPEs. Traditional
PIPEs typically attract long terminvestors
who are betting on the
performance of the company and its
stock price.
In recent years, non-traditional, or
"structured" PIPEs have evolved in
which the first-step private placement
involves the sale of debt securities
that are convertible into common
stock at a conversion price that
automatically adjusts downward if the
company’s share price falls below the
initial conversion price. Unlike
traditional PIPEs, the purchase price
is not set at the time of
the private placement and the
debenture is convertible for a fixed
dollar amount rather than a specific
number of shares. These have been
colloquially dubbed "toxic" or "deathspiral"
convertibles, and have drawn
the intense scrutiny of the SEC.
The Mechanics of a "Death-Spiral"
When there is no limit on the
downward adjustment of the
conversion price, the prospect of
large-scale conversions and sales at
declining prices can create selling
pressure which pushes the issuer’s
share price downward. Structured
PIPE investors are ambivalent
towards the performance of the
company because they can reap
substantial gains as the stock spirals
downward.
To illustrate the strategy, an investor
will short sell the company's stock at a
price of "X" per share. A high volume
of short selling pushes the share price
down to X-1. The investor’s
conversion price is then reset to the
discounted X-1. The investor then
partially converts the debenture at X-
1 to cover the shares it sold at X,
delivers the shares necessary to cover
the short sales and has a large number
of shares left over, which it can then
sell when the price hits X-2. The more
the investor pushes down the market
price with this strategy, the more
profit it makes on each conversion. If
the investor short sells at X per share,
it will make much more if it can
convert its shares to cover at X-4 than
it will make by covering at X-2. The
"death spiral" continues until the
company is forced to issue huge
amounts of virtually worthless stock.
The investor already locked in its
profit with short sales while the
ordinary shareholders get crushed.
The SEC Acts to Curb PIPE Abuses
To give PIPE investors the liquidity of
marketable securities, after the
closing the issuer has to register
resales of the PIPE shares through a
Rule 415 shelf registration. Starting
about a year ago, many issuers began
receiving SEC comments on their
resale registration statements
questioning whether they were
eligible to register resales of the PIPE
shares. The SEC was taking the
position that the issuers receiving the
new Rule 415 comment were seeking
to register so many shares that their
PIPE transaction should be treated as
a primary offering rather than a
private placement followed by
separate secondary distributions by
the PIPE investors.
The SEC – through its staff in public
speaking engagements – recently has
cautioned that comments should be
expected when an issuer registers for
resale more than one-third of its
outstanding shares held by nonaffiliates.
Because the number of
conversion shares is virtually
unlimited in structured PIPE
transactions, the SEC’s action is, for
the most part, directed toward the
abuses of "death spiral" convertibles.
As a result of the SEC’s stance on Rule
415, most "death spiral" convertibles
have either been converted to
traditional PIPEs or aborted.
It appears that issuers engaged in
JULY 2008
JOHN P. CLEARY
Copyright @2008 Procopio, Cory, Hargreaves & Savitch LLP. All rights reserved. www.procopio.com ¦ 2
traditional PIPE transactions selling
securities at fixed prices should
continue to be able to rely on the
SEC’s historical position in PIPE
transactions, particularly if the
amount of securities sold is relatively
small in relation to the public float.
Convertible Debt in Microcap
Financings
Although the SEC’s recent action to
protect microcap issuers has helped
curb abuses, issuers still must be
vigilant against predatory investors
seeking convertible debt instruments.
Typically, PIPE transactions impose
upon the issuer a contractual
commitment to file a resale
registration statement and use its best
efforts to have it declared effective by
the SEC. More often than not, the
issuer is subject to cash penalties if
the SEC does not declare the resale
registration statement effective within
a stated time period. As a result of
these provisions, PIPE investors who
have their liquidity blocked by the
SEC are able to effectively rescind
their investment through the
liquidation clause.
No matter what the SEC’s position,
issuers should avoid structured PIPEs
at all costs and maintain some control
over dilution by insisting on limits on
adjustments in conversion rates and
liquidated damages. "Death spiral"
convertible debentures are, in most
cases, the kiss of death when it comes
to financing for a company seeking to
raise capital.
Mr. Cleary is an attorney with Procopio,
Cory, Hargreaves & Savitch LLP.
Reach him at 619.515.3221 or
jpc@procopio.com.
EDIT: this article published by a prestigious securities law firm explains the death spiral financings, their structure, modus operandi and their typical results.
Copyright @2008 Procopio, Cory, Hargreaves & Savitch LLP. All rights reserved. www.procopio.com ¦ 1
CLOGGING THE PIPES: THE SEC CRACKS DOWN ON "DEATH SPIRAL" CONVERTIBLES
By John P. Cleary, Esq.
Procopio, Cory, Hargreaves & Savitch LLP
PIPE is an acronym for a private
investment in public equity. In a PIPE,
a publicly traded company issues
securities with a commitment to
register the securities for resale
promptly upon closing the
transaction. The Securities and
Exchange Commission (SEC) has
permitted PIPE transactions through
Rule 152 under the Securities Act of
1933, as amended, which provides a
safe harbor for issuers completing
private placement offerings and
subsequently registering the
securities for resale to the public.
Typically, the SEC raises no objection
when securities are privately placed
with the closing of the transaction
contingent on the filing or
effectiveness of a resale registration
statement as long as (a) the
purchasers in the private placement
are irrevocably bound to purchase the
securities subject only to the filing or
effectiveness of the registration
statement, and (b) the purchase price
is established at the time of the
private placement. These are known
as "traditional" PIPEs. Traditional
PIPEs typically attract long terminvestors
who are betting on the
performance of the company and its
stock price.
In recent years, non-traditional, or
"structured" PIPEs have evolved in
which the first-step private placement
involves the sale of debt securities
that are convertible into common
stock at a conversion price that
automatically adjusts downward if the
company’s share price falls below the
initial conversion price. Unlike
traditional PIPEs, the purchase price
is not set at the time of
the private placement and the
debenture is convertible for a fixed
dollar amount rather than a specific
number of shares. These have been
colloquially dubbed "toxic" or "deathspiral"
convertibles, and have drawn
the intense scrutiny of the SEC.
The Mechanics of a "Death-Spiral"
When there is no limit on the
downward adjustment of the
conversion price, the prospect of
large-scale conversions and sales at
declining prices can create selling
pressure which pushes the issuer’s
share price downward. Structured
PIPE investors are ambivalent
towards the performance of the
company because they can reap
substantial gains as the stock spirals
downward.
To illustrate the strategy, an investor
will short sell the company's stock at a
price of "X" per share. A high volume
of short selling pushes the share price
down to X-1. The investor’s
conversion price is then reset to the
discounted X-1. The investor then
partially converts the debenture at X-
1 to cover the shares it sold at X,
delivers the shares necessary to cover
the short sales and has a large number
of shares left over, which it can then
sell when the price hits X-2. The more
the investor pushes down the market
price with this strategy, the more
profit it makes on each conversion. If
the investor short sells at X per share,
it will make much more if it can
convert its shares to cover at X-4 than
it will make by covering at X-2. The
"death spiral" continues until the
company is forced to issue huge
amounts of virtually worthless stock.
The investor already locked in its
profit with short sales while the
ordinary shareholders get crushed.
The SEC Acts to Curb PIPE Abuses
To give PIPE investors the liquidity of
marketable securities, after the
closing the issuer has to register
resales of the PIPE shares through a
Rule 415 shelf registration. Starting
about a year ago, many issuers began
receiving SEC comments on their
resale registration statements
questioning whether they were
eligible to register resales of the PIPE
shares. The SEC was taking the
position that the issuers receiving the
new Rule 415 comment were seeking
to register so many shares that their
PIPE transaction should be treated as
a primary offering rather than a
private placement followed by
separate secondary distributions by
the PIPE investors.
The SEC – through its staff in public
speaking engagements – recently has
cautioned that comments should be
expected when an issuer registers for
resale more than one-third of its
outstanding shares held by nonaffiliates.
Because the number of
conversion shares is virtually
unlimited in structured PIPE
transactions, the SEC’s action is, for
the most part, directed toward the
abuses of "death spiral" convertibles.
As a result of the SEC’s stance on Rule
415, most "death spiral" convertibles
have either been converted to
traditional PIPEs or aborted.
It appears that issuers engaged in
JULY 2008
JOHN P. CLEARY
Copyright @2008 Procopio, Cory, Hargreaves & Savitch LLP. All rights reserved. www.procopio.com ¦ 2
traditional PIPE transactions selling
securities at fixed prices should
continue to be able to rely on the
SEC’s historical position in PIPE
transactions, particularly if the
amount of securities sold is relatively
small in relation to the public float.
Convertible Debt in Microcap
Financings
Although the SEC’s recent action to
protect microcap issuers has helped
curb abuses, issuers still must be
vigilant against predatory investors
seeking convertible debt instruments.
Typically, PIPE transactions impose
upon the issuer a contractual
commitment to file a resale
registration statement and use its best
efforts to have it declared effective by
the SEC. More often than not, the
issuer is subject to cash penalties if
the SEC does not declare the resale
registration statement effective within
a stated time period. As a result of
these provisions, PIPE investors who
have their liquidity blocked by the
SEC are able to effectively rescind
their investment through the
liquidation clause.
No matter what the SEC’s position,
issuers should avoid structured PIPEs
at all costs and maintain some control
over dilution by insisting on limits on
adjustments in conversion rates and
liquidated damages. "Death spiral"
convertible debentures are, in most
cases, the kiss of death when it comes
to financing for a company seeking to
raise capital.
Mr. Cleary is an attorney with Procopio,
Cory, Hargreaves & Savitch LLP.
Reach him at 619.515.3221 or
jpc@procopio.com.
It's been 3 plus weeks since the brief ASR pop. All of the speculation posted here regarding imminent PR's and big news have once again proved inaccurate.
Meanwhile the outstanding ASR share float is exploding and now sits at a pre-split equivalent upwards of 12 billion shares. And there is no end in sight.
I can't answer that question about ASR. From my perspective and experience I see no factual reason to have that type of hunch.
There is nothing in either the actual business dynamic or the trading and PPS trends to support that with any foundational realities.
Speculative predictions are fine in my opinion. If you can profit from them even better.
Not to be redundant here, but once again I will reiterate that this is not an investment vehicle and long positions are illogical in my opinion.
This I believe is an intra-day trading vehicle
I am ok with my loss on ASR. I simply stated documented facts. All verifiable as opposed to the unverifiable and unrealized rumors about a big PR or a huge deal or a buy out by Bayer. They have all run through here, with absolutely no foundation and have never come to fruition. I wish you well. It is in my opinion, a day trading stock not an investment vehicle. Averaging down in my opinion, is illogical and simply throwing good money after bad.
Good morning dog, I do not know if you saw my post with the link to the published description of death spiral financing structures and functions and how they mirror the ASR convertible debentures. Keep in mind that it is very common for these debt holders to short stocks and by default crush the common holders.
In my opinion, the debt holders are converting and dumping their shares with the assistance of facilitators and self trading. Also I believe it is most likely that insiders have dumped previously registered shares. After reviewing the facts I believe that there may be a false perception of scarcity of shares and when there is a backlog of buy orders they dump a block of shares. In my opinion, that's why the outstanding shares float has skyrocketed. In the last 3 weeks or less 10,000,000 shares have been added to the float by just one debt holder. Please look at the company's SEC filing of Dec. 23rd, 2011. Since they have death spiral structures in the convertible debenture it does not really matter what price they sell their converted shares, they are guaranteed whatever additional shares necessary to offset the declining share price. Ergo, more dilution.
EDIT: A dose of reality. The reverse split was 1 share for each 200 shares outstanding. The authorized share reduction was 1 share for every 10 shares authorized. That is an 80% swing. So there is plenty of wallpaper still available.
While some of the fraudsters (an SEC term) are posting comments elsewhere that the float has decreased this is an outright falsehood,
unless we are using some sort of Cosmic Inverted Martian Math.
When the pop occurred in late December there was a torrent of comments about how the new CEO was orchestrating a big deal, also about a huge PR coming the following week, then when that did not happen the comments were about a huge PR coming the following (last week). None of this has happened, and if you go back in time you can see that none of the MEGA DEALS & FANTABULOUS PR's have also never come to fruition. Now, you can day trade this and make middles all day long, that's an individual decision. And perfectly legal. However the reality is that the outstanding shares have just about tripled since the reverse split bringing the effective (pre-split) outstanding to more than 12 BILLION with a B and my guess is that it may be much more and that additional significant dilution is on its way and could dwarf the dilution that has happened in the last 90 days or so. Have they increased their authorized yet?
The reason to reference pre-plit numbers is to have a constant baseline equivalent that you can refer to so as to circumvent the opacity that is used to camouflage the actual scenario.
When I first invested in this company (I since have liquidated and taken my losses) I did not and could not understand how the "investors" could use PR's as a measurement of opportunity. CFG cleared this up with a series of tutorials. I now understand that this an ethereal trading vehicle that has no connection in fact to the business fundamentals and performance metrics that investors use to appraise an equity's value and upside potential.
I liquidated and lost about 60% of my money. That being said based on where the pre-split equivalent PPS is today, I now will tell you that I SAVED 40% of my money.