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Lol that's just a top coat. Still need to buy a sealer and base coat. That stuff is more expensive than anything I shown. Try again.
Even floor polyurethane goes for $120 a gallon. I don't know where you're getting your prices but you must be looking at cheap single stage polyurethanes which SUCK for high traffic and heavy loads.
Go take a look at a RUST-OLEUM floor coating on the store shelves at home depot that sells for $240 to cover a 2 car garage. That's a crappy epoxy floor coating. Then take a look at a system like UCoatIt which goes for nearly $500. The difference is UCoatIt includes a true polyurethane top coat.
You have no idea how much high performance 2 stage polyurethanes cost. High performance polyurethane top coats for flooring go for $120 a gallon which include 1 quart of hardener. 1 gallon of hardener alone costs nearly $200. Go lookup what PPG sells these things for. The difference between a $300 dollar paint job and a $5000 dollar paint job is mainly the materials. Automotive grade polyurethane sells for $250+ a gallon and can require as much as 2-3 gallons for a nice paint job. That doesn't include the primer and base coat. You're looking at $1500 dollars for materials for a high quality paint job. And if you're looking to do a complete color change on a stripped car...double that price in materials.
If they come anywhere near of using just 10% of the capacity then we've got a 100+ bagger stock. First quarter financials will definitely give us a clue.
this is gonna hit harder than a bass drop in a tiesto concert
this is why almost all of the top 10 formulators in the world have sought out The Company to learn about Green Polyurethaneâ„¢
The switch over is starting to happen guise.
If a buyout happens then it will be done sometime in 2017. HCTI needs to gain traction in the marketplace and with the legitimacy of several Fortune 500 companies paired together with a CA ban we may see a large shift towards HCTI's polyurethane. Real buyout offers will start coming in when other NIPU's get rejected in the market place. That's when a company like Dow will take notice. Right now I'm sure Dow is thinking they will be fine with their NIPU but they will start to sweat if they see a substantial drop in their market share and see HCTI and their partners having widespread success. Dow may either join as a partner or they will drop a few billion MINIMUM on HCTI.
Like you said, HCTI needs to play their cards right. From the way they structured HCTI - they are only licensing out the polyurethane technology. I think they planned ahead being open to the possibility of selling the polyurethane portion of polymate. With 3-5 billion in the bank they could go start their own little nanotechnology empire.
Figovsky is a genius so he could be 10 steps ahead of all the big chemical companies. He could have something else in his bag but needs a huge injection of capital to make it happen.
Lol I've got 10k in tools and 20k in car parts I've been debating on selling. Would upgrade next year to a few exotic cars and a full time mechanic in trade to do work for me in trade for the additional HCTI shares.
im actually hoping there's one more wave of shares hitting the market to drop this into the trips again. I'll be ready with a dump truck to pick up the falling knife fear monger selling. I really doubt we'll have another chance with trips though.
You're wrong though, lol. People have no freaking idea how hard this is going to blow up. I love it. Just keep buying shares when I can until that PR drops that changes everyone's perspective. The Industrial Finishes PR campaign is doing a ton. Can't wait till CA municipals and Fortune 500 companies start talking. Everyone is gonna look back and be like "omg if only I got a second mortgage and bought in December, id be rich!". Well, of course you would, but you didn't. lmfao. Hindsight is 20/20.
most tards on otc have no clue how the business world works. If it doesn't involve marijuana or a 1 billion dollar check then it's all just fundamentals shhfondimentals. I can see why we are at a 2 million market cap, lol.
I'm liking how the price has "broken" the upward trendline but yet it hasn't "gotten ugly" like some TA experts seem to think it would have. This stock has broken the chart countless times. TA has no say in price action. It's clearly driven by the fundamentals right now. When IF started their PR campaign is when the price lifted up to .003. We're now building a strong base here. Every new deal we ink with a medium sized distributor the price will move up 200-300%. The first Fortune 500 company deal that's made public will get us to new 52 week highs and every subsequent Fortune 500 deal will give tag another dime to the price. Something tells me we'll be bickering about .05 movements by December.
I'm actually in the process of financing a new garage/house building on a .5 acre lot. I will be looking to get True Green for my concrete floor.
HCTI needs to hurry the f up. Everything that is offered by my builder is all Dow chemical as far as insulation goes. I'd rather use HCTI spray foam to be honest. I may hold out on insulation until I can get a hold of HCTI spray foam.
One thing to consider is how many projects can use 500+ gallons. One gallon can cover about 200 sqft. That's about 100,000 in total. If they have a backlog of orders already then they must have orders for at least a few hundred thousand sqft. An average 2 car garage home is 400 sqft. They have enough orders to coat 750 homes with 2 car garages. Most of the sales are for these for 2,000 sqft+ facilities though but it's still an impressive start. Industrial Finishes is going to sell 10 million worth a year at this rate, lol.
Honestly, if the Industrial Finishes deal has shown us anything its that it may take another couple months before the ramp up time is completed and we even hear about the product from the Fortune 500 company. It may be at the discretion of the Fortune 500 company to make the announcement first before HCTI can, but rest assure this is gonna hit multiple pennies when that day comes. Between now and then we may get some news about all the other deals in the pipeline. A big PR can drop at any time for any of the deals in the works.
IR said we would be very happy with our investment in 6 months. Well, its been about 3 months. Patience is key here.
Let's just say HCTI grows exponentially quarter over quarter this year and Q4 indicates they will make over 100 million for 2017. If we know this then we can deduce the value based on other rapid growing coating manufacturers. Rapid growth is really the key here. If they get to 20m and stay there for a year then nobody is really going to care about this company.
An appropriate P/E ratio needs to be figured out before the price can be. If the company is growing exponentially and has high speculation to grow further then we can look at a company like Axalta http://www.google.com/finance?q=NYSE%3AAXTA. They have been around for 150 years but only recently split off to an independent company to become Axalta.
Axalta has 4 billion annual revenue but has only 27 million net income last year. They lost 230 million in 2013 because of rapid expansion. It's clear that net income has little to do with valuation of a coatings company. Axalta has a P/E of over 100 right now.
A rapidly growing company could see a 100 P/E ratio. If HCTI is making 50% margin (based on the fact they are simply collecting license fees from Fortune 500 companies) on 100m revenue then that would put the company value right around the 500 million market cap range. With the current share structure it would put it around $0.50 a share.
0.10 is probably a very realistic target this year IMO.
HCTI has projected to get to around 500m within 5 years. If they sustain 50% margins then it's looking alot more like a 5 billion market cap at just a 20 P/E.
Lol everyone that isn't in this will have thumbs up their asses when this hits them.
You're right I am just convinced that 99% of traders on the otc are not that smart with their investments. There's a reason why they are on otc...cuz they are broke af.
They mention proposition 65 which has isocyantes on the top of the list.
100k after taxes. Then you put that 100k in other otc stocks and most will lose money. That's all assuming you bought at the very bottom and sold at the very top which never happens. Most likely a trader would sell once they get 100% return. See how it all breaks down? Lol
Flipping on the OTC specifically has never made anyone rich. In most cases it's a net loss. Most individuals don't invest more than a few thousand dollars in an OTC stock so the gains are limited just by the fact there isn't much money put into a trade. Anyone that has made millions on the OTC isn't trading. They are running shorting or pump and dump campaigns, selling seminars or doing convertible debt loans. It's hilarious when someone tells me flipping is the way to make a ton of money on the OTC. No, extensive due diligence and timing is what makes money on the OTC. Trading junk OTC stocks will 9/10 times yield a net loss and is considered pure gambling aka throwing your money away.
Your first sentence just adds to your negative tone I pointed out earlier. You just showed up with very rude and ignorant comments. You seriously stumbled upon the wrong board. Are you sure you meant to post on this HCTI board? LOL
Yeah, see ya in two months brah. Does this mean that will be your last post? LOL
It's not what was said, it's what you implied based on the tone. You just arrived on this board but yet you're confident this is a scam without doing any real DD. Sounds like someone that has been burnt a lot.
Good luck to you as well, Just remember, trading never made anyone wealthy and there is a huge difference between rich and wealthy.
LOL whatever "brah". Yep I'm in the hole 12%. Huge losses!! I'm about to jump off a building nobody calms me down!! I've got 100k invested here. My account has fluctuated between -70% to + 25%. Yes, it's a gamble, but this is the best OTC gamble out there.
If you're not going to do the DD on this stock then I don't see the point of calling BS on it. Stick to your charts and out of message boards.
I agree an award is only as good as the business it brings. It's pretty clear to me that the award along with the SNUR being on the side of HCTI has created the demand for their product specifically. I am sure CA is testing other products but even if you include licensing fees - I really doubt the cost will be a factor in deciding when HCTI saves 30-60% in product application costs as a result of business being able to open back up much sooner
That's sort of the hole we in aren't we? Lol.
The reason why we are at these prices? It's pretty easy to see this is an obvious david vs goliath story. That's exactly why they couldn't get financing. There is still a lot of debate if HCTI will actually succeed at reeling in Fortune 500 partners as this information has not been disclosed yet. There's a lot of things going on behind NDA's that we are simply blind to. The fact HCTI is a pink sheet company doesn't help as they only file the bare minimum to stay current. We simply don't have the information. This doesn't mean the company isn't doing what they claim.
If you ask me...doing DD for the last 5 months - I've concluded there is definite interest between HCTI and Fortune 500 companies but I cannot confirm if they are really working on licensing and distribution agreements. You cannot deny there are some really interesting correlations with what some of these Fortune 500 chemical companies are saying about proposition 65 which HCTI is right in the middle of being the holder of the EPA award and what their distribution partner is saying.
All this poop tossing will change once we have a Fortune 500 company confirm everything HCTI has claimed. People thought the 4 million dollar distribution deal was BS but that deal turned out to be legit. I don't think that's gonna be the last time people were wrong about the claims HCTI has made.
I know your post history and I know you're a chemist and a shareholder.
I don't think anyone is implying the PPG connections as fact. It's pure opinion and speculation based on some connected dots. Nobody should invest based on speculation but one cannot deny the interesting correlation between everything going on in the industry.
If anything it sure beats all the posting about petty price movements, dilution and reverse splits.
That's the crux of the problem. The EPA isn't interested in other formulations that simply cut out isocyanates when HCTI can provide a superior product with low VOC's. There will be other inferior NIPU's but HCTI will be the golden standard. Why is it a golden standard? Well if the EPA and CA municipals are picking it over everything else then how else do you measure a standard??
It's a funny thing HCTI is the first to market. The only one backed by the EPA and the only one that I'm aware of with a huge backorders from CA...the state leading the ban of isocyanates.
If you know just a little about business...it's who you know and not what you know. HCTI appears to have EPA and CA municipalities behind their product. That's all I need to know they will succeed at capturing a good part of the market.
Even if HCTI captures 1% of the market...it's still a billion dollar company. Let the haters hate. Worse case scenario this company is going to be very successful.
That 20m dollar deal with the first Fortune 500 company will turn into 100m by end of the year. I'm sure of it. That's just one of the Fortune 500 companies working with HCTI.
If you don't believe there are Fortune 500 companies working with HCTI then you need to do more DD. There are pictures of Graco testing rigid foam that HCTI provided. That's all I need to know that there is alot of sh!t going down behind the scenes.
HCTI will become more relevant as we get closer to the final SNUR in June and the eventual ban of isocyanates in CA. If you didn't follow the PPG conference call then you should know they are following CA very closely and have not anticipated CA adopting new technologies so quickly. CA has a huge amount of back orders of HCTI's products from their Industrial Finishes distributor. PPG has stated they are working with various partnerships to switch out products on shelves early this year but cannot divulge anything until then. It's pretty easy to connect the dots. I'm not saying it's 100% certain but it's clear HCTI is first to market and there is strong demand for their "scammy" product. I'm putting my money on PPG being the first F500 partner. If you don't see the connections then don't invest.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that pilot was successful and hcti has been working out how to get mass production of the product out. I suspect all those orders from CA are a result of the successful pilot. There's no way that Industrial Finishes were able to create soo many accounts so quickly. This has been a long time to hit the ground running.
If CA chooses HCTI as the standard for all PU products in municipals then what are the chances anyone could ever overthrow that type of momentum? There hasn't been any kind of movement on NIPU for 50 years until now. What makes anyone think there's going to be another player when HCTI is first to market??
Once CA municipals start splattering HCTI'S NIPU all over the state there's going to be no other product that will be able to combat that type of standard that has been set. HCTI being first to market is a grossly underestimated win. When you're the first to make friends with the right people there is little reason to go with another alternative when the product sets the bar for performance and safety at a cheaper price point. You'd have to come up with a better product and undercut the price. Not worth it when we're talking about billions of dollars of revenues. It would be significantly cheaper just to buy out that tech. Looks like PPG didn't expect CA to move towards new tech soo fast. HCTI'S value just went up big time and grows as we get closer to June and eventual ban of isocynates.
California with Proposition 65 concerns, we see more of our customers actually converting to the newer technologies faster and sooner than we originally expected
Industrial Finishes has admitted they have a ton of backorders from California. PPG is definitely watching what's going on with new technologies hitting California. CA is really the proving grounds. If CA has wide acceptance with HCTI's products then it's game over! The pressure is on!
I'm almost certain most shareholders have no idea how the isocyanate ban will effect companies like PPG and Dow. They downplay these new regulatory transition periods to avoid unnecessary concerns from shareholders. When a solution is on the shelves they will most certainly start spilling the beans and create a nice story of how they are ahead of the game.
Many millionaires going to be made here. Just a matter of having the patience.
That's not how patents are valuated. There is absolutely no reason for corporations to switch to NIPU until the EPA bans it. The SNUR in June to restrict isocyantes is causing corporations to start moving to NIPU. 2016 is when we will see the huge shift. Who's to say there hasn't been bids for the patents?? Oleg would be selling out too early for pennies on the dollar. Once they start closing deals with fortune 500 companies we will see what it real value is.
Yea I guess so lol. I sat there at .0008 and doubled down lol
Because non-isocyante is what the epa demands. Polyurethane is a 130+ billion dollar market on its own and it's growing about 5% a year. You bet your ass our nano coating will slowly cut into that.