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Well if he's the greatest con-man then judging by the lack of interest in KBLB stock everybody seems to know but us.
I'm beginning to feel like the husband who's the last one to know that his wife's cheating on him.
Well King, there's an american saying that's more appropriate:
"You ain't seen nothing, yet"
You can apologize for misstatements of facts, etc., but don't for your opinions if you still believe in them just because others disagree. I'm still mad for giving up the pc at ND idea just because Kim promised a cc, just think if Kim had introduced Monster silk back in Dec. before the PNAS article and media blitz that followed.
The pps wouldn't be at .08, that I can say for certain, but the same people that resisted that idea are the same that are now telling us how great things are.
You must have to overlay the chart with the path of the tornado warning. lol
Is this exciting or what? ONLY 23 days left until the CC, don't think I can stand it.
With all the news and media interest of the last 2 months we're now celebrating the fact that the pps hasn't dropped into the .06s or .05s. This is so much better than taking advantage of the spider silk phenomenon with an ADMISSION that KBLB has already produced Monster silk, NOBODY wants a pps in the .20s when it MIGHT fall back to where it is now.
Ben and Kim have done the impossible and turned a HUGE plus into a minus, congrats!
As far as I know, you haven't posted any questions that require answers.
Yawn. Rah rah. Exciting times for KBLB investors. Yawn. Rah rah. Did we run out of articles promoting the use of spider silk? I know a month ago we ran out of any media articles that mentioned KBLB.
"Kim is making all the right moves or we wouldn't be here after 5 years"
By "here" do you mean the pps? Do you mean the position Kim has put many, many previous and current investors in by the incredibly incompetent IR done in the past year. KBLB pays for publicity that the media will provide for FREE, and after a year of successes and advancements in the science KBLB should have long ago been recognized as the company that will produce spider silk with the pps reflecting exactly that. Sorry, no luck there.
During this time MMs and traders have simply taken every POSITIVE pr and turned it into their own money-maker, pulling the pps down and denying KBLB a much deserved pps built on those successes. I suppose you do like it "here", having another month of pumping and dumping shares in the never ending accumulation of shares.
The mistake I made was not speaking up earlier, letting the accumulation of shares by traders go unchallenged while investors suffered in silence the sell-off of their investments. You keep justifying your trading practices, the low pps., Kim's non-information policies, by using the circular arguments of the ignorance of investors, "naysayers", whining, etc and ending it by accusing those that speak out only do so for a few pennies gain, which is exactly what you do.
But, carry on, this is your strategy and I wouldn't say a word if it wasn't hurting investors.
"Evil triumphs when good men remain silent"
This is more fitting because good things have not come to many investors that have waited in silence and believed in KBLB yet were ultimately forced to sell. The traders and MMs that manipulate the pps are now and have been aided by the lack of information from Kim, where simple investors have been hurt badly.
Just don't appreciate traders that continually resist ANY ideas that could permanently raise the pps, yet pump the potential value in attempts to influence investors and spike the price for their own gain.
"Don't p__s on my shoes and tell me it's raining"
I'm all for silence from Kim if it is detrimental to KBLB and have said so many times, and also that I hope Kim has a VERY good reason for virtual silence the last two months. But seeing the SAME arguments from the SAME traders for the SAME reasons that result in the SAME dump of shares is misleading to those investors that don't realize what's happening.
Also agree KBLB has the potential to be an incredible investment, but IMO that doesn't mean is has to be a crappy investment NOW. The risks have been shrinking for a year now, while the rewards have been expanding with each success in the science, yet the pps inexplicably falls with each pr.
This isn't normal and isn't acceptable when simple IR work could have long ago made KBLB known as the one company marching toward production of pure spider silk. Everything is present for the success of KBLB and it's incredible commercial uses, yet the pps reflects a sorry penny stock that has little value to the market. This is ridiculous but will continue until either HUGE HUGE news is released by Kim or name recognition is finally established in the market, nothing else will provide the impetus to attract the new investment needed to blow by the resistance of traders and MMs.
Well, I do feel sorry for those investors that will read on this board in the next month all those "positive" statements and net articles about the huge markets KBLB will dominate. Or the next pr that will be pumped by traders as the big one, or some such thing. The pps spikes, and you traders dump on the hopes of those investors that KBLB is finally moving up.
FYI, you've taken NONE of my money, but Kim's propensity for keeping silent concerning KBLB is getting close to doing it, no matter I'm long and believe in KBLB's future. But Kim is costing investors money for no foreseeable reason, and that is the reason traders get to do what they do.
Guess it all boils down to what each individual will do for money.
KBLB is like a dirty mutt you might find along the road, people just pass it by cause at first glance it looks like crap and not worth anything.
Then you take it home, clean it up, and lo behold you have a Samoyed. Advertise it and let the bidding begin.
Clean KBLB up, Kim, advertise it and let the bidding begin.
You're the one hoping for the .05's, I'm more interested in getting it to the .50's.
But I agree, the market isn't listening yet. Maybe we can throw copies of Textile World on the floor of the NYSE.
That's what I saw also, Romans, and I don't know if it's correct but the price for Textile World was listed as 0.00.
Ever heard of the phrase "you can't give it away"?
But hey, IT'S ALL THERE IN PRINT!
Anybody know the circulation numbers of "Textile World"?
Anybody know the numbers of viewers of FOX NEWS?
Does anybody doubt the lack of name recognition of KBLB, both in the market and industry?
OMG, now we're reading how .06's and .05's are a good thing. Just maybe Monster silk is the "news of all news" for hundreds or thousands of potential companies and investors, or maybe it's just best to let Textile World do the IR for us.
Oh yeah, I know they'll try but things have changed since 2010. Granted, for the most part Kim's wasted a golden opportunity when the peer review put media on to spider silk, but there's still intense interest in the concept.
Am I wrong or isn't KBLB the only company in the world that has produced a product like Monster silk, plus whatever qualities of spider silk that has followed utilizing the platform worm? Why are so many articles written, interviews given, that make no mention of these accomplishments whatsoever? All the media interest and we're relying on Textile World to spread the word?
Watching the FOX interview with the prof from MIT really opened my eyes to what we were missing, their interest in what spider silk could mean in commercial products was profound.
But why interview someone who just talks about spider silk, when they could interview the one company that has the proven science to produce it. All Kim has to do is be truthful about KBLB, what it's accomplished in Monster silk and whatever else he can reveal about all the successes since.
I've said it before, and I swear this is the last time, but there are millions of potential investors and thousands of companies that HAVEN'T read Textile World. This kind of publicity would create not only investment, but would stimulate companies to investigate the opportunities KBLB products can offer to them.
This kind of investment doesn't go away when traders dump, their shares will be bought up at whatever the pps is and probably will be considered a bargain.
But, as always, it all depends on KIM.
I agree, but there's such a thing as karma, can't get away from it. At least Kim can end their trading frenzy that only benefits them and not investors, that's why all the opposition to raising the pps thru free publicity.
It can still happen bull, all Kim needs to do is let the media know KBLB is the ONE and ONLY with Monster silk!!
He's got 30 days, pps could be in the twenties by the cc.
LOL Perfect.
Cool, I like it.
"Should Ben jump from the bridge with a Monster silk bungee?"
"Should es, red, and zinc jump from the bridge with a Monster silk bungee?"
You get the idea, free publicity going viral on the net, nothing better.
And after a month we'll have the chance to buy REALLY cheap shares. Traders paradise, baby.
Can't wait for that first pr spike, better have a dump truck to haul away all the shares being dumped.
It's a great trading stock as long as the pps remains artificially low. Once the full impact of KBLB's potential is realized by the market with the release of information by Kim it will turn into a great investing stock. Thus the continued circular arguments by traders on this board that ultimately results in their conclusion that a high pps is bad for the future of KBLB.
Make no mistake, a rising pps built on solid information is bad for traders and good for investors.
Another month until the cc only extends the traders paradise that KBLB has become, a paradise where they readily admit to being content with the falling pps in anticipation of pr spikes in the coming month that will enable more "buying opportunities".
Your worst nightmare Romans is finding fatcat on your plate. LOL
All the articles, interviews, etc. in the last two months that have fed the media's interest in spider silk have resulted in KBLB's stock losing value.
How is that possible? That question isn't a positive post anymore, now we're talking about how low the pps will drop and how it's a good thing.
Brilliant.
If it's all there in PRINT, why is the pps soooo low?
Well that's alot of if's. How about "if" we ever have a cc, and "if" Kim at that announces he's close to pure spider silk, and "if" we have buyers, then Kim could dilute on a level 10 times lower "if" the pps raised that high.
But "if" that doesn't happen, how about we try and produce some Monster silk to create revenue to keep KBLB solvent until when and "if" Kim EVER does produce pure spider silk.
Kim's IQ might very well be twice what mine is, and you're right, and it IS hard to remember that.
If we're going to dilute on that level, I'd rather we purchase a production facility and start stockpiling Monster silk and other spider silks currently being developed in the ND lab.
At least when we get a deal made, we'll have the product to sell.
The world was listening a month ago, Kim just wasn't saying anything. That's not my opinion, that's a fact.
And to think throughout most of those 8 weeks the media's interest in spider silk was actually setting up KBLB for a huge pr or pc. But hey, we don't need that then and don't need that now, we've got a cc at the end of March, maybe.
LOL. I rest my case.
I may become well acquainted with my shot glass before this is over, and it's never going to be half-full.
You remember that "tingling feeling" up his leg that Chris Mathews got from listening to Obama, well that's what traders are feeling from this announcement.
Hyping this announcement as something positive for investors? I suppose if Kim announced the cc for the end of April, that would be viewed as even better and huge news for investors?
I know why investors want at least a pr by the end of Feb., it goes to the reliability of Kim. I really don't care on the time frame, it's already been shown Kim's time-lines are not reliable and there may be very good reasons for that. Hopefully, this is one of those times, and the delay is needed to complete a deal or finalize successful lab work.
What I do want is solid, reliable, and honest information from Kim. Information that can be dissected by the market and by current investors so both can decide on the value of KBLB stock. We don't need ambiguous statements that favor only traders, it's time KBLB moved forward toward a pps built on the reliability of KBLB that would separate it from the typical penny stock .
Obvious why investors want to get out, just as obvious why investors want to stay in.
No amount of DD can be done to answer which is the right move for investors, the information is just not being provided.
Small wonder there's no new investment.
As far as risk/reward is concerned, every stock is different and is judged by how much capital a investor is willing to risk compared to the reward if that stock is successful. As time passes, the factors that affect both risk and reward change, thus the pps rises and falls with the positive or negative results of the factors most relevant to that stock as reported by the company.
For KBLB, the overwhelming risk should be whether the science is successful. The reward if that happens is huge, and only limited by how successful that evolving science becomes. Over the past year, that science has not only progressed beyond expectations, it's basic concept was validated in the PNAS report. Yet with each success in the lab the pps has remained virtually the same, even with the peer review and intense media interest that followed.
KBLB has produced Monster silk, a blend of spider and worm silk that apparently has 80% the strength of dragline spider silk, that can be sold immediately to industry. It has developed the platform worm, opening new avenues for the evolving science that should produce innumerable commercial uses.
The risk has lessened greatly, and the reward has increased, with each success in the lab yet the pps remains the same. Doesn't make sense unless the market either views the business end of KBLB as so incompetent that the risk of failure overrides the success of the science, or KBLB simply suffers from lack of name recognition, or the lack of information from Kim on both the science and business is viewed by the market as greatly increasing the risk of investing in KBLB.
Of course a revenue stream would be great, and IMO we should have it already, but lack of it doesn't warrant the current pps. Revenue could come tomorrow, we have the product with others in the pipeline, and these products will be used far and wide in the future.
Why we don't have massive new investment in KBLB falls on Kim. If the lack of information from him has caused great concern to even the longs, how could we expect potential investors to have the confidence to invest? The RISK of investing in KBLB isn't lack of revenue, it's lack of information and that problem should have been solved long ago.
I thought the peer review would have drastically reduced the perception of "risk" involved when investing in KBLB since the evolving science is by far the most important factor in KBLB's success, but apparently not, and that raises the question of what exactly is inhibiting new investment.
You know my answer.
LOL
The market doesn't care about you, or mojo, or anyone else trading in this stock. What answer do you have to the lack of market interest in KBLB, when the potential is so great? Previous prs, nothing. Peer review, nothing. Media interest, nothing.
Every indicator of the value of this stock points toward a MUCH higher pps., yet the market refuses to invest. Your standard answers to this are either we haven't commercialized or signed a deal yet, or maybe we don't have a product or the market is waiting for 100% spider silk.
All I hear is that the market is a gamble, so what's the gamble when the deals are done? Are potential investors waiting for KBLB to be bought by DOW, or sign huge commercial deals, or produce 100% spider silk? Where's the risk then, where's the reward then? The upside of this stock is so great at this time, with the peer review and incredible number of potential commercial uses, why would potential investors NOT take the risk when the rewards would be HUGE compared to once deals are signed?
The answer is Kim, and how the market views his actions and motives. With his lack response to media interest, he has raised questions not only with the market but also with long investors as to whether he's a genius or incompetent, or perhaps just a scammer.
Neither you, me, manshoon, mojo, red, es, etc. know the answer to this question for sure, and we don't because Kim refuses to inform anyone of what's happening "behind the scenes", which is apparently so secretive that sharing that information would damage KBLB severely.
Well, he is damaging KBLB with this silence and until he presents information as to which of the three he is then the market will always doubt the future of KBLB.