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Yea but you shoot yourself in the foot with all of this public doubt and speculation. If you are going to sell sell and make the profit. but to hold on to shares and then bad mouth the CEO and company before business is completed only hurts the rest of your investment and those of us who are in it for the long hall. I'm glad you made the money you did but, my evidence tells me the company and market value will rebound and you will be kicking yourself for selling at the price you did instead of the $5.00 or $7.00 its going to be. The fact that the stock didn't bottom out and is holding steady in this climate for the past three months,with all that it faced in its opening should tell you something.
I would like to once again caution against creating a situation of no confidence in the stock by excessive trading right away. We don't want to create a false impression. The main reason I caution you however is that leading analyst are predicting a five year MSV of 0-$7.00 for the reason you don't want to sell too low and cheat yourself of a maximum profit. The suggested sell price was $3.00 - $4.00 I understand we are all hurting for money but if we can hold out and give the company and the stock time to mature we will all be the more richer for it.
What an eloquent way to say I was wrong can you help me remove this foot logged in my portfolio. LOL
All of you have valid points that still should not raise concern. as Owen stated one of his main goals are to make money for the share holders. The recent activity in the market suggest visionary perspective on the part of leadership to steer the company toward these acquisitions. Gold has out performed all of the other commodities on the big boards even in september . As it was pointed out there are many ways for the holdings to be structured. The documents proving purchase might not even be listed as real estate which maybe is why you can't find them. Im sure the information we seek will be forth coming when the business at hand is fully completed. Sometimes when company's have reached a final agreement they will announce it, even if all of the t's arrant crossed and I's are not dot-it. Portfolio and Positioning are two vital indicators for company and market growth PTRZ has scored high marks in both these ares with the recent mergers and acquisitions, by holding steady during a crucial period, increasing potential company and market value, aligning the company with a major market leader, and notoriety from a major publication to announce it.
"Those good at attack do not divulge their operational secretes;
Those good at defense prepare thoroughly"
SUN TZU
THE ART OF WAR
The whole company is a success story. Its record braking clime with in the last two years alone is a success. the open door given to many people who wouldn't have a chance otherwise. and the money we all stand to make when things turn around for this company. even at $0.25 who ever invested stand to make a hefty profit from the potential of this stock. understanding the risk is a part of trading. Its a natural part of the game.
I keep telling those of you that are new to the game, you must be aware of those who would see this endeavor fail. As risk is a part of the game so too are lies and false roomers. I remind you again, Jp Morgan and the big six started the crash of 59 with just such a lie. They wanted to bring and end to free banking systems so they had every one believe their competitors were going bankrupt. this is one of the oldest tricks in the book. start the roomer and then position yourself to buy from all of the people that panic and sell too early. don't fall for it. PTRZ is a solid sound company with a strong portfolio and visionary leadership, two of the most important indicators for investing in a company.
"Therefore the considerations of the intelligent always
include both the benefit and harm. as they consider benefit,
their work can expand; as they consider harm, their troubles can be resolved."
SUN TZU
The Art OF War
Thats the risk part of trading. Any thing can affect a stocks trading value, although there are certain things to look for when make decisions. for instance PTRZ has been fluctuating between 30-25 all month Of course we want it higher but looking at trading overall these last few week it would be considered holding steady. in this climate this is good compared to other company's that have steady losses. Any other answer given to your question at this point would be speculative based on experience and knowledge of market trends.
He could have answered that question more precisely but over all the interview was good PR. for the company. He was clear in his stated goals and the company's vision. If the answer was too vague the moderator had the opportunity for a follow up question. He represented well enough for the interview.
Grate interview and find and on the Wall Street Reporter none the less. Hmm, some of those words he used sounded familiar, Positioning, increased revenue to the company and individual investment portfolio, future model of American business, now where have I heard that before. I cant quit put my finger on it but I know Ive heard that from some where. I don't know it will come to me. :~1
My sources tell me that the Kansas and Delaware symbol is the same so the $100.00 for 1000 shares are using the PTRZ symbol and the mergers are on schedule. It is my understanding that the new certificates will be mailed out later this month and this Thursday Owen will be hosting a call which would answer some of our questions.
Company's Earnings and Asset's Report.
The new assets and acquisitions have to be factored in and new projections configured according to the potential gross earnings of the newly acquired gold mines and production company, Last checked gold was at $956.50 per ounce. At 1.7M.ounc. The company will increase in value by 23% of $992M on that transaction alone. coupled with other transactions the company and and personal portfolios should show a substantial increases.
And since gold has out performed the leading commodities PTRZ has positioned itself to be noticed since most of this activity accrued during golds up swing. This is one of the indicators I was talking about before. The more experienced player looks at what drives them across the board and make predictions. based on a company's present position and what they are poised for in the future.
This is always the risk of the market no matter what sheet you trade. As in life Sh** happens, new technologies can be developed, CEO's can die but the numbers, they have a cause and affect that can never be altered and the ER is one of them. But there are others that tell you different things Just as I can tell the fluctuation in market value is due to impatient investors not company depreciation.
Where is your proof. The company has the burden of making money for it's share holders not answering to false unfounded accusations. As I predicted the stock is fluctuating between 20-25, holding because the necessary assets were distributed to accomplish the mergers and acquisitions. Now that the business at hand is completed the new assets will be reflected in the company's ER bringing up both market and individual port folio value substantially.
"They are fearful and uneasy so they call out to each
other to strengthen themselves "
Sun Tzu
Art Of War
Thats because PTRZ only has a percentage until some other company finances the rest of production the other out standing percentages stay on the market as open real estate.
Your 100% right in your analysis of the different levels of trade but the one lesson I hope annalist walked away with in this (depression) is that no market is an island unto itself. they are all connected and driven by each other. This present economy really don't allow for big risk trading as it did in the past(even for the the rich ) which is why smart money is looking for penny nuggets that could turn into huge win falls. and PTRZ is just such a nugget. with all of the trading going on with our fellow impatient investors who do you think is buying up their shares. Every one knows the day of the super corp. is like the dino, its to big for the environment to sustain. New innovative methods are need to keep the big boards trading because as many annalist predicted letting the big losers fail is opening up fresh ground for smaller user friendly company's and investors. Think if I were a millionaire losing my shirt, and had the chance to trade penny stocks at a profit, even for a little while verses big risk stock which would you think I would choose in this climate. it's not the rules of trade that is the issue but our mode of thinking.My brother a state senator and others were asked by the president if the time was right for his run for the presidency,many in the group thought it was too soon, they said run for the smaller office first. My brother responded by saying what my grandmother told him in his run for the senate."Either take care of business or get off the pot and let someone else sit down" its time for a change in the way we do business in America and it won't happen without a fresh approach to old ideas. Think small you work at McDonald's. Think smart and large you become the most powerful man in the free world.
"If Genrals do not know how to adapt advantageously, even if they know the lay of the land they cannot take advantage of it."
Sun Tzu
THE ART OF WAR
While Ill concede more info needs to be forth coming Its unfair to assume this company is lying or doing anything underhanded. What lies are being unraveled? all you have to go on is the problem they had with the SEC which was taken care of. have your suspicions, but be professional enough to know that its not right to damage a company's reputation without proof of what your saying. Owen and the company has never been caught in any lies. You should watch what you say even the little people can be sued for slander. Now think if I were running a scam would I want people to write an anal retentive president that reads every thing on his desk to call attention to myself. I think not.
I hope you are joking that dude needs a stylist. LOL
LOL
Just well educated in the ways of money and the mind of the rich and powerful. Even if they are bound to let the company resume trading how come there's not one story concerning fraud or impropriety on the company or the CEO after such an inquisition.As we all know once the Government gets to probing your colon they can tell you what you had ten years ago for breakfast.My point being their are too many eyes on this company for it to be the scam you naysayer are trying to make it out to be. As with any company there are risk but in this game that's part of the rules of play.
PS. Pardon my spelling I was rushing LOL
You don't have to be religious to have faith in your own decisions and judgment.
Yes there is,long smart money are the guys that have you fast money short timers running scared and dumping your shares before they have a chance to reach their peek. Cant you hear them their laughing so loud, all the way to the bank. This is PTRZ's first year on the public market it's peek is projected with in five years at 5-7 dollars. even if you don't holdout for the full five year period you would do better to be smart and hold out for the long hall for a maximum return on your investment, insted of falling for these scare tactics of SMART, LONG MONEY. In this economy its all being played like penny sotcks. Bye Extremely low sell extremely high.
"Even if you Know the configuration of the land, If your mind is inflexible you will not only fail to take advantage of the ground but may even be harmed by it. It is important for generals to adapt in appropriate ways".
Sun Tuz
THE ART OF WAR
Ten days or one if your under the microscope your under the microscope if the SEC has a company in its sights and something is wrong there's no way they would let them resume trading. Faith in the whole system would be in jeopardy.
PS.
San Tuz (Pronounced: SAN SOON in English)was a grate military strategist that wrote tenants concerning the art of conflict and resolution. didn't any one pay attention in world history and Economics.
its not strange you just got taken by the oldest game in the book smart long money is positioned as I said to buy out all of the panicky penny traders who are falling for the rummers and innuendoes. Do you think in this post Maddoff economy the SEC would let a company resume trading if they were not satisfied . PTRZ will shock and amaze in the coming months. You should have held on for the ride. These fluctuations are normal for a young company making big moves.
"The best Victory is when the opponent surrenders of its own accord before there are any actual hostilities."
San Tuz
THE ART OF WAR
And you did a smart thing, Its too bad you didn't get in on the ground floor. PTRZ is performing just as expected. As I stated some time ago the vision Owen and his team has for american business is very radical and innovative. His bold moves are upsetting the status-Que publicly disclosing the companies future endeavors at this critical point of incubation could reveal important plans to individuals who would love to see this venture fail. PTRZ is holding in the 20-25 range because the spending of assets is complete and the new acquisitions are being calculated and integrated into the companies ER. The fluctuations are due to the privet trading some of you are doing but over all the company is holding steady without making major announcements or overtures to the press. Whether you believe in god or polka-dot fairies, The market is a planning, strategy, and faith even if it's in your own decisions.
"Those skilled in defense hid in the deepest depths of the earth, those skilled in attack maneuver in the highest heights of the sky. Therefore they can preserve themselves and achieve complete victory"
Sun Tzu
THE ART OF WAR
Education and entertainment are my professional fields, The market has been an interest ever since I learned about its world wide power and influence in high school forty years ago. I call it like I see it.
This is what I have been saying all along. any one new to the game wouldn't understand this, but those who do take advantage, by scaring potential competition then positioning themselves to pick up the slack when the time is right. This is a trick of old smart money. If you know the history of the stock market you know that the crash of 59 was started by just such a lie, by J.P. morgan and the big six. It was this group that wanted the free banking system to fail so that they could institute the Federal Reserve oversight of which they controlled,(This is all historically documented). Don't panic be smart and wait it out, Owen and the PTRZ team are dealing with all of the issues facing this endeavor. The system isn't perfect but it sure as hell would have shut this down by now if there was fraud going on. What people fail to understand is that todays wars are not fought on some dirty battle field but on ticker tape and the ammunition is information, which is why we must be very carful as to what we say out hear to harlyboy and the rest because we don't know who the really represent.
"Therefore no one in the armed forces is treated as familiarly as spies, no one is given rewards as rich as those given to spies, and no matter is more secret than ESPIONAGE"
SUN TZU
THE ART OF WAR
Old money passed because they didn't get wind of it, and by the time they did they didn't understand the vision and conviction of PTRZ and it's leadership (thats why they are so pissed). After the news of the mergers and acquisitions broke, more and more long money became involved. They understand how Owen's vision can disturb the status-Que. So in order to delay the companies growth they started these nasty rumors and false allegation to the SEC. Now that the truth is coming out and the deals are being finalized you will see an up swing in over all company value which will affect its market value significantly. Im sure the volatility in todays trading is a reflection of the recent purchase. Once theses assets are recorded into the company's profile this too will increase the fiscal potential of the company. Most analyst list PTRZ at $0.00-$7.00 in the next 5 years. Smart money understand the $0.00 risk but also see the $7.00 potential.
"When soldiers call in the night,
it means the general is not brave.'
SUN TZU
THE ART OF WAR
Yes it is as estimated the audits are being finalized for the mergers and acquisitions the expenditures calculated affecting the over all market value. When present acquisitions are merged into the Petro Americorp infrastructure and the companies ER show potential asset and fiscal growth the market share value and individual portfolio will see a bilateral increase. Not only will companies asset reflect growth but public intreats is spotlighting PTRZ right now long smart money is waiting for this fluctuation period to be over to bye in. many of them are upset because they didn't get in on the 100,000 for $100 deal. But they are still smart enough to know how the flow of assets during this period can affect a companies overall market value Owen and the company are weathering the storm and so must we.
"These are the configurations of terrain;
generals who do not know them lose."
Sun Tzu
THE ART OF WAR
Paidwell I can see why you have that name only time will tell if smart money was correct in waiting out the PTRZ storm to clear. only with an understanding of personal company and general market trends can a person hope to benefit in this present market. This is a game for long smart money.
"Benefit and harm are interdependent, so the enlightened always consider them both"
SUN TZU
THE ART OF WAR
"The Business Of The General Is Quite and Secret, Fair, and Orderly"
SUN TZU
THE ART OF WAR
AS for PTRZ not trading you need to look at the board its not doing its projections because of the business at hand and you old timers with long money up setting the situation with your lies and rumors. Smart money will ride out the economic storm and will see a sizable return on their investment The projected 200,000% ROI was a projection based on estimates previous to the business at hand (Mergers and acquisitions). PTRZ is still a good penny investment especially for disciplined long money. Its trading at fluctuated ranges right now (just Below $100 at times) but will level and climb once it is allowed to make concrete announcements regarding present business and future plans. This is the stock market people in other words economic warfare and corporate espionage. False Propaganda is an old tule of the cold war.
It would seem the same game is played out all the time long money start the rumors to send short money into a panic. this is a very complicated process and it will resolve itself when the business is corrected. I understand the concerns because of the lack of information. But the rumors and silly statements only hurt the company's ability to work through the existing problems. For the good of the company and future investors stop the bickering and speculations and wait for real concrete information concerning the company's progress. Give the process a chance to work itself through. e all want to make money but there is a bigger picture at work that many of you can't see because your too busy staring into your empty wallets. George Bush made you Poor, Owen is trying to get you paid.
This low swing of PTRZ reflects the merger and unfair persecution of special intreats. Like President Obam's vision for the country, this is a common stock for the common man, and it will do very well in the long term. Like any real successful venture PTRZ is one of long term vision not short term gain. These are very difficult times for all but we must give the process its proper gestation so that Owen's vision can be realized. After the volatility of the merger The company's assets will stabilize, and our company's model will prove itself to be sound. Even big business understands now that the spending power of the common man is the driving force of the information age.