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so what you're saying in an even smaller nutshell is that the patients themselves are sabotaging bavi then.
sheesh. . . we can't catch a break.
so your friend says he has reservations about kinger and the b.o.d.'s business acumen?
i say au contraire!
they all continue to receive handsome salaries, stock options, and pretty bonuses at share holder expense - all in spite of a continuously plummeting pps.
on top of that - they even have many of these share holders voting for more of the same treatment year in and year out at proxy time.
i'd say they are very, very slick businessmen.
who else could so devalue their share holders and have them begging for more?
I guess for one of the few times I was incorrect as pphm didn't make its move. Is this the lowest close of the year? I guess there will be no weekend of hopium.
sheesh. wrong again already, frust!
now, articles about ebola, the gates foundation, other small biotechs, and who knows what else - but with nothing directly linked to pphm - are the fodder for the weekend edition of hopium.
absolutely shameless.
not mentioned was the fact that amazingly again there was a sunrise this morning around 7 am here on the east coast. . . no doubt that is a sign shorts better cover asap as the pps will certainly be 7 bucks SOON!!!!
how did they miss that one?
go pphm!
go rotation of the earth!
together we can't be stopped!
Mwahahahahahahaha . . (sinister laugh while rubbing hands together)
they do that so to figure out how many goons (i mean how much security) they will be needing.
i told em they better double up.
c'mon everyone! . . why the long faces?
we've been told over and over for what?, 15 years now? by the same crew that there are literally millions of reasons the price rise is just around the corner!
so turn those frowns upside down!
what? . . are you one of those impatient types? . . expecting something to happen inside of 15 years? . . . shame on you all. . . ..wanting the price to go up so quickly. . . biotech takes time ya know. . .
go b.o.d. !!!!!
go kinger !!!!!
go perma-wrong posters !!!
go pphm !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(go mary boyd too... but i think she already went).
the pphm and the big bad wolf story. . . (similar to but different from the putrid prune tale of yesterday which still stands - - will this?)
once upon a time a long time ago, there was a little piglet called techniclone. . . it had a pps in the double digits but lived in a house of straw.
one day the big bad wall street wolf came a-calling. . though techniclone apparently had no fear of the wolf, the wolf huffed and puffed and blew the house down anyway.
poor techniclone ran away to a house made of sticks.
while there, that piglet gorged itself at the trough of it's retail investors each day. . in time this piglet needed a new name as "techniclone" was too cute a moniker for such a fat sow. . . hence "pergrine farmaceuticals" was born and it did grow into a big, fat unquenchable eater of market cap. . it squandered away its time while watching the pps plummet all the while singing... "who's afraid of the big bad wolf, the big bad wolf, the big bad wolf?"
"peregrine farmaceuticals" quickly chowed down whatever liquidity was in sight as a hog is want to do until its food was mostly gone. . it's handlers (the b.o.d.) ignored the real needs of its now famished pet project and the hog that is peregrine turned to eating away at itself (reverse split). . predictably, the wolf came a-calling again.
the wolf huffed and puffed and easily blew the house of sticks to pieces. . . "peregrine farmaceuticals" escaped by the hair of his chinny chin chin and ran to the house of bricks (the pII bavi trial).
ocassionally a passerby would check into this bloated yet hungry pig to consider buying it and rescuing it from its abusive handlers. . . but after a thorough check-up they would apparently feel that the rolls of fat were too deep and the psychological effects left by its handlers too much of an obstacle to overcome. . yet the handlers kept claiming to be in negotiations for this fat blob of a pig, but could not convince any suckers (excuse me,"'partners") to step up and open their wallets.
but with pII a certain success, the pig that is "peregrine farmaceuticals" felt invincible. . he taunted the big bad wall street wolf. . but then one fateful day in september the wolf came again, huffing and puffing.
"peregrine farmaceuticals" didn't think it was vulnerable in its brick house, but sadly discovered that no one put mortar between the bricks (dose switching). . apparently no one bothered to oversee the building of the house.
this was all the opening the big bad wall street wolf needed and despite the who's afraid of the big bad wolf song - he blew the brick house down too. . now poor "peregrine farmaceuticals" was operating completely off script.
while not yet run down and completely eaten by the wolf, poor "peregrine farmaceuticals" withers away every day. . it's handlers don't seem to care and don't even write anymore (no news updates).
the wolf has ocassionally caught and bitten off pieces of the poor sow - but has yet to totally put it out of its misery.
that is the other "rest of the story."
it is a truthful version.
how this ends is up to the handlers. . . the true owners are kept away and seemingly cannot affect change. . . the handlers have seen to that.
but maybe we can.
vote the handlers out. . . don't be placid sheep accepting scraps the that they so rarely mete out to us.
change (which everyone feels is needed) does not come through a bunch of lemmings sitting on their hands.
it only comes when people rise up and say 'enough.'
i've been here over 15 years.
i've been saying enough long enough!
have YOU called IR yet to voice your concerns?
have you voted your proxy in a way that says 'enough?'
Just a heads up to anyone planning to attend the annual meeting...you need a brokerage statement as of 8/22/14 with your name on it and/or the original ticket included with the proxy materials to get into the meeting. If you don't you will be refused admittance.
why?
do these putrid charlatans derive some sort of sick pleasure out of looking at my now pitiful brokerage statement?
pphm, the abysmal abyss?
ok, i'm calling 'big's bottom' here at 1.38.
who's with me?
green grass and high tides from here!
all true, djohn.
all are equally unlikely.
Chenew, we trust PP management with a pile of money, but we don't trust them to make good business decisions regarding traveling to conferences?
no, not particularly.
...I hope all the effort on Sunrise and the dozens of Bavi collaborations will turn this thing around. Soon would be nice.
yes. . soon, of course.
i wonder if maybe today is the day i actually get thru to ir.
free tip:
don't hold your breath.
great, it's her again. . . right as we sink into the 1.30's.
about the only contra indicator more reliable than sierra is zare2.
cheynew, investigators might have turned her around by offering her some sort of deal for cooperation to find out big fish which paid her. You never know.
uh oh, they're closing in on you, corp ;)
Like many of you this recent share price drop makes me nervous. However, it also prompted me to add shares. I now hold more shares than at any time.
We'll see how smart or dumb this turns out. We won't have to wait very long.
ahh, yes. . . reminds me of my youth. . . back when my handle was "talldarkandhandsomeintellectual."
yes, i bought more then too.
and just look at me now.
thanks.
good to get rid of the "pharma" in our name, but i don't know how that further distinguishes us from the "other" peregrine we don't want to be associated with - peregrine financial.
(though peregrine financial probably doesn't want to be associated with us either, lol).
anyway, hopefully this means NEW and UPCOMING events will be happening SOON.
(doesn't it always?)
The direction of pps is in ones mind for now and not in the technology ......yet.
the direction of the pps ain't in my mind, my man.
it's there in everyone's portfolio for anyone to see.
the 'yet' part you speak of is the hook, that is correct.
promises... disappointments... and then more promises.
stay long or sell? . true, but once a certain amount has been lost in an equity, 'selling' is when you admit defeat. . meanwhile kinger, et al are still talking 'astronomical' valuations.
could this be more king bs enticing us to hang on? . maybe. . but i am sure i am not the only long trapped inside this episode of the twilight zone. . so i hold on. . the only thing worse at this point would be selling just before the long awaited 'SOON' arrives.
i plan on making a call to ir today. . just to say hi ;)
yep. . and everything pphm can be put in one of two categories for the most part.
in one column you have "IS" and in the other you have "SOON."
a) pphm IS in a 14 year downtrend. . (should be enough said but what the hey we'll go on)
b) pphm IS dismissive of its owners (shareholders) by supplying them with either sketchy information or none at all.
c) pphm IS dilutive.
d) pphm IS still (allegedly) in talks with nothing to show for it.
e) pphm's history IS an extension its b.o.d. and we can't remove them.
SOON means nothing. . particularly after 14 years of 'soon.'
after some time, "soon" is akin to a useless religion when applied to stocks.
SOON may have left town long ago and no one knows because we never really knew 'soon.' . or should i say 'soon' certainly didn't know us.
which brings us to the kol comment about wishing they acknowledged us. . it's like a super rich uncle that doesn't even know you exist. . what's the point.
pphm needs to become as "IS" company.
it's been a "soon" company for too long.
and getting a bit too comfortable at being one i'd say.
but please everyone, DO vote ONCE AGAIN for whatever mgmnt wants from you on the proxy. . this strategy has served us so well in the past. .
i don't need to write the definition of insanity that you see everywhere here, right?
you all know it.
i'll take one for now please.
yeah why not?
all the previous partner/collaborator puzzle pieces have been lost somewhere on the carpet.
realist you truly deserve recognition for your constant negativity in regards to our investment.
yes, i agree.
he has apparently been consistently correct.
you DO follow the stock price, yes?
first paragraph: nail on the head.
for me anyway, one absolutely vital and necessary trait this management team sorely lacks is believability and trustworthiness.
they have not earned that.
the problem with them now disclosing even ANY kind of negatively charged innuendo is that they have such a putrid track record and un-admired b.o.d. that it might be crippling.
although i don't think they give a rat's arse about retail, the consequence of any failure now might mean taps for pphm.
that leaves the investor in an awkward position to say the least.
can't trust 'em... but does that necessarily mean that they don't now have the goods?
no, not conclusively
it's a catch-22.
second paragraph:
some here say your premise #1 is the reason.
i really don't know.
i am truly limited, unlike all the accomplished 'scientists' on this board.
IMO IF the data is bad or 'meh', they should really show the cards and restructure the pipeline. If sorafenib+bavi for HCC is 'meh', if paclitaxel in her2 neg breast is 'meh', etc, just move on to Anti-CTLA4, PD1, etc. and wait for results from there.
i agree.
but if that is the case i wonder at what pps we would be moving on from?
(luckily not $50 i bet...)
;)
SK and the rest have repeated specifically that they are encouraged by Yopp's updates way too many times. I don't think liver data is bad. I think in the worst case it's 'meh' with some surrogate endpoint data they can use in the future. Best case it's something like +30% MOS.
so with pphm i guess king feels "meh" results are encouraging.
"encouraging" to me and i am sure to other investors (and more importantly WOULD BE INVESTORS) does not mean "meh."
no, "meh" is not good enough.
the only thing that can save us now is.........
another SA contribution from md
If liver data is bad, SK should be fired. Every indication he has given leads one to believe data is favorable.
truer words ain't never been spake.
gawd help us if someone has somehow seen liver data and is acting accordingly.
So yes, the BoD was the next target. they are "vulnerable by history". So if you don't have strong arguments against them today then it is a matter of going sufficiently back in time and yes there you may find some activities that could point to lack of experience, lack of public appearance training, etc.
seriously?
how else do you measure ANYTHING outside of quantum mechanics but by history???
and by ANY yardstick - long ago or recently - this b.o.d. has failed.
and geez, not only with pphm, right?
everything they get involved with seems to come upon the cement shoes.
don corleone couldn't take 'em down faster or more permanently.
(and please don't tell me this group just needs a little MORE time....)
Today I'm stressing the word "stupid".
that's ok.
i won't take offense.
yep.
and with all the black swans constantly circling who EVER woulda thought a month or two ago that one of those might have to do with scotland of all places...
211k vol. who sold that? poor Boy!
maybe someone who just read post #190757 and suddenly realized "yeah, wtf am i doing?".
well at least we know it wasn't an insider as they hardly own any to begin with...
yes, at least we now have courteous ineptness.
Patriot Scientific trades at 5 cents a share..
Cryoport trades at 45 cents a share…
Ecotality trades at 1 cents a share…
Wellness is a website… big deal
Johnson works for Swartz at Roswell Capital. Pohl was CEO of Patriot when Swartz was Patriots largest investor. Do you see any independence? See any relevant biotech experience? Any success stories to give any institutional investors confidence? Nothing but major red flags for an institutional investor…
here's a scary thought... pphm is by far their shining star on the hill!
the great flagship success under their watchful eye...
at $1.47 and fading fast.
clowns, stooges, or thieves?
or maybe all of the above.
INTERESTING A recent study by Harvard Business Review shows some board turnover at companies is healthy.
the only board turnover we can expect at pphm is the checker board when swartz falls behind in the ongoing series to pohl 22,245 games to 22,244.
i hear he's a poor loser that way.
but hey, it's his passion.
pphm share price on the skids day in and day out doesn't rile him up quite the same way.
well then for their sakes i hope the bavi liver trials are going well.
normally i don't begrudge anyone a good drink or two on my behalf...
but dammit, i'm beginning to feel as if my pphm investment is contributing in a major way to the drunken lifestyle of these leeches.
Job himself finally sold his pphm in 2013.
gotta agree with that.
and the farther we get from $50/share the luckier we are too.
a montage of "his word is good as gold steve king's" own words - uttered over the years - summed up in one sentence:
"we're excited to be on track in the upcoming months to see mary boyd hit the ground running , soon followed by collaborations or partnerships which will allow the share price to take care of itself.
yes, his words are true gospel.
did he say soon somewhere?
oh yeah, i see it in there.
so what's #6?
6) on track...... with freight train coming from opposite direction?
as per the mighty metallica: