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USD tanking...dropped .35 in 15 minutes was up .15. Now 100.17
EUR/USD @ 1.0718 ...broke resistance. USD 100.51 -.16 now.
The never-ending war (Part 2)
By: David Chapman, Union Securities
The Kondratieff wave cycle is a controversial study of economic activity in capitalist societies detailing the rise and fall of stock markets, commodity prices and interest rates. Kondratieff's original study focused primarily on England although it has been more popularly applied to the United States. One intriguing aspect of the Kondratieff wave was the association of wars particularly to the peaks (summer) and the troughs (winter) of the cycle. Our table below summarizes these wars.
Peak Wars Trough Wars
War of 1812 - Kondratieff summer 1803-1816
American Civil War - Kondratieff summer 1859-1864
World War 1 - Kondratieff summer 1908-1920
Vietnam War - Kondratieff summer 1966-1981
Trough Wars
Mexican American War - Kondratieff winter 1835-1844
Indian Wars/Spanish American War - Kondratieff winter 1875-1896
World War 2 - Kondratieff winter 1930-1949
War on terrorism or? - Kondratieff winter 2000-?
The last Kondratieff winter (1930-1949) saw the Great Depression, the rise of Nazism and the holocaust, and World War 2 culminating in the use of nuclear bombs (WMD) on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Terrorism was a theme in the rise of Nazism. The Nazi's seized power convincing the German people that they were under attack from Communists, dissidents, and many others. The Nazi's then instituted their own brand of terror.
The Kondratieff winter of 1875-1896 was a period of American expansionism into the American west, adepression following the American Civil War and the building of the railways. The Indian wars (1866-1890) dominated the period. Terrorism played an important role, as the fear of Indian attacks led to a massive military build-up that culminated in the massacre of Wounded Knee ending the indig enous peoples domination of the American West. The Spanish American War (1898) signaled the start of a new Kondratieff spring (1896-1907) and another period of American expansionism.
The Kondratieff winter of 1835-1844 was also a period of American expansionism and an economic depression. The Mexican-American war was the first American conflict driven by the idea of "Manifest Destiny". The actual Mexican American war was 1846-1848 but before that there were numerous conflicts leading up to the war including the Texas War of Independence (1835-1836) and numerous Texas/Mexico border wars (1837-1842). The US believed they had a right to occupy the whole continent and as more Americans moved west there was a need to protect them from falling under the rule of Mexico.
Wars and depressions have been significant characteristics of the Kondratieff winter. But themes of US expansionism and terrorism are also woven in. Today the war on terrorism and the threatened war with Iraq amidst accusations of American global expansionism are once again themes that cannot be ignored. And this is coming as deficits both internal (budget deficits are projected to reach upwards of $300 billion in 2003) and external (record trade deficit of $40.1 billion projects to trade gap of $473 billion for 2003). In another era of global domination by one superpower one of the reasons the Roman Empire collapsed was because of the sheer cost of maintaining the empire causing both internal and external unsustainable deficits.
Today the war on terrorism is focused largely on Al Qaeda and Iraq. But the focus on Al Qaeda appears to now have taken a back seat to Iraq. This is even though there have no apparent links drawn between Al Qaeda and Iraq. But war jitters remain front and center and it is this uncertainty that casts a pall over investor sentiment. Consumer sentiment has fallen to its lowest level in years. As if the shadowy threat of terrorism is enough bankruptcies continue at a record pace and each week brings a fresh round of layoffs and closures somewhere. The business sector is also reeling and is putting off new investments.
One area of the war on terrorism that is not getting the attention it is due is Homeland Security and the apparatus that surrounds it. Starting with the Patriot Act (and Bill C-26 here in Canada) there has been a growing clamp being placed on freedoms. These acts and Homeland Security allow for increased surveillance including written, oral and electronic communications, employment, banking, borders, airports and many more.
Programs such as "Operation Tips" gives rise to citizens spying on citizens. The chance for serious mistakes to be made and innocent people to be snared in these types of programs is exceptionally high. Already criticism of the either President Bush or key White House administration has cost numerous people jobs rightly or otherwise. Allowing protests only in designated confined areas usually far away from either the President or key White House officials has compromised peaceable assembly. Gr owing anti-war protests, while allowed, and, they have been generally peaceful, are nonetheless monitored by a huge police presence including filming of participants.
While many see these programs as necessary and justified to fight terrorism and they believe that giving up some freedoms in order to ensure their security is the right thing to do, civil liberty organizations see them as a frightening byproduct that threatens the Constitution of the United States and its Bill of Rights and here in Canada the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. We are reminded of a couple of famous quotations first from Benjamin Franklin "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty or safety" and from Aristotle "The basis of a democratic state is liberty".
And Homeland Security does not come cheap. It is estimated that expenditures in 2002 were $30.3 billion to rise to $37.8 billion in 2003. One area that stands to benefit is information technology spending (IT). The Treasury Department has requested upwards of $638 million in IT spending related to Homeland Security. Given the ongoing slump in technology spending it could provide a significant boost to IT companies particularly ones specializing in emerging technologies of security, biometrics, fingerprinting and others. Expansion of these areas of course is also under attack from the same civil liberty organizations that do not wish to see an Orwellian state set up.
War in far away lands and massive tightening of security at home. All of these are part of what could be a never-ending war. Conventional warfare has a winner and a loser. But in a war on terrorism it is a war against an unknown, unseen enemy with no seeming end. This casts an atmosphere of fear and paranoia such that it threatens to cast a dark shadow over our economic and social well being for years to come. It is not an atmosphere that is conducive to investment despite the efforts of monetary and fiscal authorities to provide liquidity and economic certainty to economies in the face of massive uncertainty.
But then that is what the Kondratieff winter is about. And that atmosphere we continue to emphasize that the one investment that can and will thrive is gold and other precious metals. The Kondratieff winter is about the collapse of paper assets. In economies that are overburdened with massive amounts of debt such as we are for the consumer, corporations and governments the only way out is either debt collapse or massive reflation to inflate the debt away. Both will end badly as paper currencies become more and more worthless. During the Great Depression while the Dow Jones Industrials fell 89% from its peak, gold stocks as represented by Homestake Mining rose over 700% during the same period.
While gold and silver stocks should make up a portion of an investor's portfolio it is also wise to hold the metal itself as portion of their cash position. Investor's can invest in gold and silver in two manners. Central Fund of Canada (CEF.A-TSX, CEF-AMEX) (www.centralfund.com, 905-648-7878) is a closed end fund that invests at least 90% of its assets in gold and silver. Central Fund can trade at a premium or discount to its net asset value depending on demand. The Millennium BullionFund (www.bullionfund.com, 416-777-6691) is a mutual fund trust that invests solely in equal amounts of gold, silver and platinum. (Note: I am a director of Bullion Management Services the holding company for the Millennium BullionFund). Both are RRSP eligible in Canada.
http://news.goldseek.com/UnionSecurities/1043134100.php
fed...My bet is were going to see 4% on the long bond. They'll take the target to 0% a la Japan if they have to in the fight against deflation. Kondratieff cycle in full bloom.
basserdan..Thank you for that article. I own a bunch of WHT.
That's a big number.
Nice chart fletch...still look at that run from 76-80 with absolute amazement. Incredible! Could it happen again? Yup...under the right conditions. It ain't about the war or the elections...it's about fundementals and a rogue wave or two. The conditions are VERY good for a rogue wave event and the fundementals are very good also.
Concerning gold...One thing that seems to be forgotten is the situation in Japan. There is a damn good reason why there has been strong physical buying of bullion there. It is just a matter of time until their financial system blows up. That event, in my opinion, will rocket gold.
Thanks. There are a lot of good posters there. A ton of knowledge on that board.
Soory Jane. Isopatch and I don't get along. He is on ignore with me and I am on ignore with him. He is a smart guy but it comes with an attitude and I won't tolerate his attacks.
basserdan, Thank you for the kind words. I appreciate it. I can't find that link you wanted...sorry. Think it was the economictimes.com???
mlsoft..WAIT! We need India..they are the largest gold buyer. LOLOL!!
War and the Markets
Steve Saville
20 January, 2003
Here is an extract from commentary posted at www.speculative-investor.com on 19th January 2003:
Overview
Our current views are that the gold price will move considerably higher and the US$ will move considerably lower during the first half of this year (following short-lived counter-trend reactions) and that the US stock market will fall below last October's low. The Iraq situation represents the biggest threat to these views. As far as we can tell, the main objective of the Americans is to gain control of Iraq, the main objective of the Europeans is to prevent the Americans from gaining control of Iraq, and the main objective of Saddam Hussein is to stay in power. How this plays out is anyone's guess.
If uncertainty was removed, either by the US attacking Iraq or by the probability of war being substantially reduced, then the US stock market would experience a decent rally (our guess would be a gain of around 5-10%), thus prolonging the overall advance from the 10th October 2002 bottom by at least a few weeks. However, we don't think that the removal of this uncertainty, or any sort of war-related news for that matter, could ignite a new bull market. For one thing, the high valuations would still weigh on the market. For another thing, there really isn't much of a 'war discount' in the stock market. Various indicators of sentiment show that market sentiment is presently quite complacent, so it isn't the case that the market is being held back by a wall of fear and, therefore, that it is positioned to surge forward once war-related anxiety is removed.
The market in which the removal of any 'war discount' would have the biggest impact is, we think, the currency market. Almost every time the US$ has fallen over the past 2 months the financial media has blamed the brewing conflicts with Iraq and/or North Korea. Dollar weakness has absolutely nothing to do with Iraq, but unlike the stock market the US$ is extremely oversold. As such, any news that is widely perceived to be bullish could be the catalyst for a powerful US$ rebound.
Since the gold price will almost certainly continue to trend in the opposite direction to the US$, anything that causes a sharp rally in the dollar is likely to cause a sharp pullback in the gold price.
As far as the financial markets are concerned Iraq is a major distraction. If not for the seemingly-inexorable march toward an invasion of Iraq the markets would be focused on corporate earnings and the economy, in which case the probability of significant additional upside in the stock market or anything more than a 2-4 week 'dead cat bounce' in the US$ would be very low.
The US Stock Market
The current consensus is that there will be a war in Iraq and that the start of this war will be the catalyst for a substantial rally in the stock market and a substantial decline in the gold market. The 'logic' is that the current uncertainty has kept a lid on the stock market and put upward pressure on the gold price. And, when that uncertainty disappears due to the official commencement of a military campaign the lid will be removed from the stock market and the upward pressure will be removed from the gold market.
The proponents of this view use the 1991 war against Iraq to support their case. During the second half of 1990, while preparations were being made for a war against Iraq in response to Iraq's invasion of Kuwait, the US stock market was very weak and the gold price was firm. But, as soon as the US and its allies began dropping bombs on Baghdad the US stock market started a major bull run that would result in the Dow Industrials Index gaining 20% during the ensuing 2 months and 36% during the ensuing 18 months.
There are, however, some major differences between January-1991 (when the bombs began to fall) and now.
First, sentiment was very bearish then and is quite bullish now. For example, in January of 1991 more than 50% of investment newsletter writers were bearish (as per the survey conducted by Investors' Intelligence) versus about 25% today. Actually, prior to the 1991 bottom the bearish percentage had consistently been greater than 50% for several months whereas during the past 2 years it has never moved higher than 43%.
One reason for the difference in sentiment between 'now' and 'then' is that the consensus view, prior to the start of the 1991 war, was that the military campaign would be difficult. Today the consensus view is that the campaign will be quick and easy. So if the market is already discounting the best possible outcome, where's the upside?
Second, mutual fund cash levels were 12% at the 1991 bottom versus 5% now. This indicates that mutual fund managers were bearish then and are bullish now, and means that the potential buying power at the 1991 bottom was far greater than it is now.
Third, at the 1991 bottom the Dow dividend yield was 4.2% and the S&P500 dividend yield was 3.9%. Today, the dividend yields are 2.2% for the Dow Industrials and 1.8% for the S&P500. So, by this important measure the market is twice as expensive today as it was in 1991.
Fourth, the price/earnings ratio for the S&P500 Index was 15 in January of 1991. Today it is 29. So, by this measure the market is twice as expensive now as it was then.
Fifth, in January of 1991 the S&P500 Index was selling at around 2-times book value. Today it is selling for around 4-times book value. So, by this measure the market is twice as expensive today as it was at the 1991 bottom. Are you getting the picture?
Sixth, at the 1991 bottom the US had a current account surplus. Today it has a huge current account deficit.
Seventh, the objective in 1991 was to chase Iraq out of Kuwait. However, if a war erupts this year the likely objective will be the occupation of Iraq. This objective will almost certainly take more time to achieve and will entail a much greater cost in terms of both money and lives.
In summary, in January of 1991 valuation and sentiment were conducive to the start of a bull market. Today, they are conducive to the continuation of the major bear market that began almost 3 years ago. In our opinion the market has downside risk of around 50% over the coming 6 months versus upside risk of around 15%, so the risk/reward ratio is lousy. That risk/reward ratio is not going to improve if a war breaks out, although the commencement of a war would certainly result in huge volatility and quite likely a surge in the major stock indices and plunge in the prices of gold stocks. These moves would, however, be short-lived because bear-market conditions would still be in place for the stock market and bull-market conditions would still be in place for the gold market (the bull market in gold is a result of the bear market in the US$ and this, in turn, relates to the US current account deficit and the perceived inability of dollar-denominated investments to provide substantial returns over the next few years).
Regular financial market forecasts and analyses are provided at our web site:
http://www.speculative-investor.com/new/index.html
George,
Do you feel well get a blow off spike high to 380 PoG? The indices look ripe to tank so would the diverence at least take out 359? It would suck in more buyers before a major correction hits. I just don't think they are ready to take it down yet. A news event will trigger a slide. And that could be short lived if Saddam uses Bio/chemical bombs or lights his oil fields up IMO.
Gold and Deflation
By John H. Makin
On September 8, 1933, almost four years after the October 1929 stock market crash, the new American president, Franklin Roosevelt, raised the domestic price of gold by 44 percent from $20.67 an ounce, where it had stood for more than a century, to $29.82 per ounce. The objectives of this change were to raise commodity prices and weaken the dollar in foreign exchange markets. More broadly, the aim was to help end the deflation that was crushing American businesses and households, especially those with debts, the burden of which was magnified by falling prices.
So virulent was the deflationary pressure, however, that prices continued to fall during the balance of 1933 while the dollar strengthened, thus exacerbating the deflation gripping the American and global economies. Therefore, on January 15, 1934, President Roosevelt proposed further reflationary measures to Congress, which promptly passed the Gold Reserve Act on January 30. The result was to fix the price of gold at $35 an ounce on February 1, bringing to 69 percent the total increase in the price of gold over the space of just five months.
Gold Hedges Inflation and Deflation
For those who were trying to preserve, not to mention enhance, wealth in an environment of persistently falling stock prices, shaky government finances, and governments vying for a weaker currency, to have bought gold in 1931, 1932, or early 1933 proved to be a brilliant move. The price of gold, which climbs steadily in a world of rising inflation (as it did during the 1970s, from $35 to over $800 per ounce), jumped suddenly and spectacularly between September 1933 and February 1934 amidst deepening global deflation.
Gold can be a hedge against the risks of both more inflation and more deflation because both phenomena entail the prospect of serious trouble for financial assets. Rising inflation depresses the value of outstanding bonds and riles foreign-exchange markets. Rising inflation also distorts relative prices and increases uncertainty about the market value of stocks; remember the stock market crash of 1973 and 1974 after the quadrupling of oil prices. Gold becomes the asset of refuge in periods of rising inflation.
During periods of intensifying deflation, stocks suffer as the real value of company debts rises and the profit outlook deteriorates. Companies are unable to cover the cost of production (especially when excess capacity is in place) that was financed with the issuance of debt or equity. Initially, deflation makes sovereign (government) bonds more attractive. But advancing global deflation raises the possibility that governments will have to engage in competitive currency devaluations as each, by means of a weaker currency, tries to export deflation. That is what happened in 1933 as President Roosevelt joined the rush and pushed down the dollar by sharply devaluing against gold. In the middle of a global deflation, that was the only convincing way to accomplish a reflationary devaluation. Roosevelt wanted to send up a rocket that would explode high up and spell out the words "higher prices in America" for all the world and for America's debtors to see as a sign of hope.
Post-Bubble America Today
In the United States at the outset of 2003, while inflation is very low, there is no widespread deflation. Globally, countries are not overtly engaging in competitive devaluations, although many are preventing a rise in their currency's value by purchasing dollars. President Bush is not intoning that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself. Nor is the Federal Reserve dragging its feet about easing monetary conditions. The federal funds rate has been cut by 525 basis points since the abrupt initiation of easing with a 50-basis-point rate cut on January 3, 2001. The latest reduction came on November 6, 2002, when another cut of 50 basis points exceeded expectations by a wide margin. The November 6 action reduced the federal funds rate to 1.25 percent--its lowest level since 1958.
The recent rate cut by the Fed has been followed by extraordinary assurances from Fed chairman Alan Greenspan and Fed governor Benjamin Bernanke that the central bank is prepared effectively to print money should the aggressive interest rate cuts by the Fed prove inadequate to stimulate demand sufficiently to produce a sustainable recovery, in which the economy grows steadily at about 3.5 percent. That trend level of sustainable growth is sufficient to sustain higher employment and the growth of profits that is, perhaps unfortunately, already assumed by many analysts to be on tap for 2003.
American policymakers have not relied entirely on stimulative monetary policy to revive economic growth. Stimulative fiscal policy, an alternative to global devaluation of currencies against gold as a means to spur demand growth in a weakening global economy, has also been enacted by the United States. The deflationary experience of the 1930s gave birth to the Keynesian notion of active fiscal stimulus as a means to boost demand growth. This occurred partly as a result of the limited success achieved with occasionally disruptive currency devaluations during the 1930s. A Republican Bush administration, in the face of persistent hand wringing and complaining from Democrats gripped suddenly by a new fervor for fiscal rectitude--the Rubin fallacy syndrome--cut taxes to provide fiscal thrust worth nearly 2 percentage points of GDP growth in 2002.
Now, as we enter 2003, the Bush administration is preparing to offer another dose of fiscal stimulus in the form of more tax cuts, worth as much as 1 percent of GDP. Wisely, no action has been proposed to offset federal revenue losses that have accompanied the weaker economy and stock market. Still, one wonders whether the Rubinites are just biting their tongues. Apparently, voters saw through the silly policy corollary to the Rubin fallacy syndrome--do not cut taxes, even during a recession, because lower deficits were supposed to have been the key to the boom of the 1990s--and voted to increase Republican margins in the House while returning control of the Senate to Republicans. Perhaps it is not surprising to find that in a recession, as in a tepid recovery with falling stock prices, lower tax rates constitute a happy combination of good politics and good economics.
Stocks Fall While Gold Rises
After more than two years of proactive, stimulative monetary and fiscal policy measures and despite an absence of overt deflation and the return of modest growth in America, something is definitely still disturbing investors, households, and businesses. The stock market, as it did after 1929, has gone down for three years in a row and now the price of gold, as it did in 1932, also a third down year for the stock market, has started to rise. Over the past two years, since January 2001 when the Fed began easing, the price of gold has risen from $260 an ounce to more than $345 an ounce or by nearly 39 percent. The biggest part of that increase--more than 20 percentage points--has come over the past year.
The history of the post-bubble scenarios both in the United States in the 1930s and in Japan in the 1990s is rich with suggestions to explain a sharp rise in the price of a sterile metal--gold--during a period of intensifying global disinflation and deflation. The recent weakening of the dollar coupled with a two-year period of rising gold prices suggests that investors are searching for a safe-haven asset at a time when equities have suffered and government finances--especially in Japan and Europe--are beginning to come under increasing strain. Until now, and in two episodes this year when investors fled riskier assets, including stocks, junk bonds, and emerging arket securities, they rushed into U.S. Treasuries and U.S. dollars. But more recently, over the first three weeks of December 2002, in what looks to be the early stages of another flight from risk, investors bought more gold, adding $25 an ounce, or nearly 8 percent, to the price in that short span.
Other symptoms of the rising disenchantment of investors with financial assets, especially stocks, appeared during the third consecutive year of falling stock prices. The search for alternatives to equity assets coupled with a change from a focus on wealth enhancement to a focus on wealth preservation has resulted in the adoption of two separate strategies by many investors. The disinflation and deflationary environment in the global economy, together with uncertainty, causes investors to abandon risky assets and to acquire claims on reliable sovereign governments such as the United States. Rising uncertainty also leads to an increased desire to hold cash or other highly liquid assets.
However, as extensive monetary and fiscal stimulus measures have failed to produce a sustainable recovery, investors are beginning to display a preference for other assets that would benefit from an aggressive and successful--perhaps global--effort at reflation. This behavior follows an initial, more benign flight from equities when the opportunity cost of not investing in the stock market fell sharply. Then, households shifted to consumer durables, especially cars. This shift became pronounced after the September 11 tragedy. Aided by sharply falling interest rates, households have also been encouraged to substitute larger investments in residential housing. Perhaps the most enduring symbol of wealth preservation for middle-income American households, especially for those who indulged in a brief flirtation with the stock market, is the comforting tangibility of a larger house.
But the rise in the price of gold is different. It serves as a sign that many investors perceive that reflation efforts have not been successful and will have to be intensified. This is not too surprising. While widely discussed, reflation efforts in Japan have neither been sufficiently aggressive nor successful. The other major economic area outside of the United States--Europe--seems to be stuck in a worsening disinflationary recession, and its central bank has been reluctant to ease as aggressively as the Fed has eased, while fiscal policy is actually moving in a contractionary direction.
In the United States, substantial monetary and fiscal stimulus has helped to produce a recovery of sorts, but a disconcerting underlying reality persists. After nearly two years of aggressive monetary stimulus and one year after one of the largest fiscal boosts in half a decade, year-over-year nominal GDP growth stands at just 4 percent--the lowest level in postwar history for this stage of an American economic recovery. We also learned in the third quarter that the year-over-year growth of corporate profits (after tax), based on the government's NIPA (National Income and Product Accounts), is more than a standard deviation below the norm for postwar cycles. With real growth in the fourth quarter of 2002 looking to be below 1 percent while the GDP deflator is below 2 percent, nominal GDP growth will fall far short of the 5 or 6 percent level necessary to sustain growth of profits at a rate currently forecast by most analysts for 2003. Meanwhile, the implicit GDP deflator (base index) for nonfinancial businesses is falling at an annual rate of 1.7 percent--also the worst performance in the postwar period. No wonder corporate managers complain of a lack of pricing power.
If U.S. GDP growth, with the help of substantial monetary and fiscal stimulus, is still insufficient to support the growth of profits and employment in 2003, the outlook for U.S. demand growth, the sustaining force for the global economy over the past two years, is not bright. While the United States is proposing additional fiscal stimulus at the federal level worth up to 1 percent of GDP during 2003, the fiscal drag from deteriorating state and local finances will erase that positive impact.
Beware Higher Gold Prices
Optimists, making comparisons between the current post-bubble period and the United States in the 1930s, have been consoled by the notion that widespread deflation has not taken hold in the U.S. today. That is a dangerously misleading source of comfort. What we have learned over the past year is that low nominal GDP growth, the sum of modest real growth and tepid price increases confined to the services sector, is insufficient to produce widespread profit growth consistent with the forecasts--or perhaps the hopes--of most equity analysts. Therefore, the search for alternatives to equity assets together with a desire for wealth preservation, which has initially led to purchases of government securities and a movement into cash, will continue. If investors should conclude, and it would be premature to do so at this point, that the only option left to policymakers is to print money in quantities sufficient to create rising prices and perhaps dollar depreciation, the continued search for wealth preservation will lead to further purchases and a higher price of gold.
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John H. Makin is a resident scholar at AEI. AEI print index #14753
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mudcat...look at the dailies also. H&S forming there as well.
http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/SC.web?c=$xau,uu[w,a]daclyiay[pb50!b200!f][vc60][iLi14,3!Lh14,3]&...
Target around 65.
GOLDBUGS...
Here is a nice chart of where the miners stand FVI in relation to the PoG. Excellent read!
http://www.proteuscapital.com/Gold%20Reports/Proteus_Gold_Re...
Excellent post. Put this on SDII also.
Was it a day order or GTC?
That is huge....a QQQ of gold.
Looks like a typical bear market rally so far. I don't see news that can sustain this rally. Waiting for gold to start cranking again soon.
Gold...Your correct but what I would lose in economic loss would more than be made up for by my gold investments as I am heavily invested there. Good luck.
Looks like the real test will be in the next 5 trading days. Traders were skeleton crews the last week and a half. The volume will return soon one way or another. Beisdes being oversold, I don't see any reason for a rally besides a technical reset.
WEEKLY COMMENTARY
December 24, 2002
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INTERVIEW WITH DR. KURT RICHEBACHER
Dr. Kurt Richebacher has shown an uncanny ability to spot future economic problems. This former chief economist of the Dresdner Bank warned about the recession and the NASDAQ crash months before they happened. He forecast the collapse of the Asian Tigers in 1998 and blew the whistle on corporate profit tricks long before Enron. When virtually everyone was certain of a V-shaped recovery, he argued that it was impossible.
A master of classical economics, and perhaps, the best analytical economic thinker in the world today, Dr. Richebacher writes a monthly newsletter, "The Richebacher Letter." Given his impressive record of accurate warnings and predictions in the face of almost unanimous disagreement from establishment economists, we think the following interview should be read with deep thought and reflection.
Q Back in March of 1997 you warned that serious problems loom in the heavily indebted miracle economies of the Far East. What caused you to spot this problem?
A Their boom was credit induced. They went heavily into debt to overbuild.
Q Same old story?
A Yes, runaway money and credit growth and the typical symptoms associated with overheating economies - inflation, speculation and financial excess.
Q Then in June of 1998 you said, "Later this year the U.S. economy will abruptly slow down." What did you see?
A Earnings were faltering and corporations were favoring self-defeating financial tricks and accounting ploys, including heavy speculation and leveraging. I wrote that a few were immensely enriched by exploding paper wealth, but savings and capital formation were deplorable.
Q Then you predicted the collapse of the stock market and the technology bubble. How?
A The great speculative manias in history were connected with innovations that generated great popular excitement. That was the case with the Internet and, along with it you had the ever-present deluge of money and credit. Yes, I wrote that a bear market was inevitable.
Q Late in 1999 you were calling it a classic speculative blowoff. Why you and nobody else? I mean, Lawrence Kudlow was saying the Internet was more important than the Fed, and the Dow would be 30,000, then 50,000 and higher.
A Yes, this kind of nonsense was helping to fuel the Wall Street boom. We expected that a sharp decline in tech stocks would be a death blow to the greater U.S. stock market bubble, and it was.
Q In the fall of 2000 the belief was widespread that the U.S. economy would have a soft landing. What were your thoughts on that?
A Well, I wrote hopes for a soft landing in the U.S. economy were completely misplaced. The credit excesses of the late 1990s were many times worse than those in the 1980s and even those of the 1920s. So were the imbalances in the economy and the financial system. You only needed to notice the zero personal savings rate and the stupendous trade deficit. To speak of the U.S. economy's excellent fundamentals in the face of these disastrous facts required a lot of stupidity.
Q Was it the worst credit bubble in history?
A Absolutely.
Q What did you say about the V-shaped recovery that all the experts were predicting back then?
A I wrote that it will come as a great surprise how fast the U.S. economy weakens in the near future.
Q What did you base the prediction on?
A Profits were collapsing, heavily indebted corporations were slowing their spending and new investment in capital goods had caved in. Serious problems were everywhere.
Q That brings us up to today. Will we tip over into recession again?
A Yes. Drastic weakness of the U.S. economy is the great shock waiting to happen for the world. A slumping dollar will turn it into a nightmare.
Q How can you be so certain? Most economists see a recovery.
A I am dismayed at the low level of U.S. economic thinking. Elementary insights into economic processes that have been accepted by all schools of thought for more than 200 years are unknown, discarded or even put on their head. The facts are that you have serious structural problems that exclude any possibility of a sustained economic recovery.
Q Such as?
A A profits decline, a record savings shortfall, a capital spending collapse, an unprecedented consumer borrowing and spending binge, a massive current account deficit, ravaged balance sheets and record high debt levels.
Q Sounds terrible. Is one just as bad as the other?
A Tops among them are the depression of profits and capital spending. They propel each other downward in a vicious spiral.
Q Why are there no mainstream economists saying anything like this?
A Not only economists, but U.S. policymakers and the public are in denial of the gravity of the economic and financial situation.
Q But why?
A The main problem is a lack of understanding and blind faith in the omnipotence of the Federal Reserve.
Q Well, the Fed has aggressively lowered rates. It's worked in the past hasn't it?
A This downturn differs dramatically from all previous postwar recessions. It hasn't been brought about by tight money, but by unsustainable spending excesses that have left behind an overextended financial system.
Q You mean low interest rates aren't working?
A For the first time in the whole postwar period, the U.S. economy and even the stock market has slumped against a backdrop of the most aggressive rate cuts by the Federal Reserve and the most rampant money and credit growth ever. The forces depressing the U.S. economy this time are radically different from those that fueled past recession.
Q In what respect?
A The profits implosion is the most obvious and the most important.
Q The Fed has pushed down rates to prop up spending. You say low rates aren't working, but people are taking advantage of the low rates to keep spending, aren't they?
A That's right. America is fighting the recession with still more consumer spending excesses.
Q Could the consumer keep the ship afloat?
A Consumer sentiment has been falling. More importantly, the economics data for the past several months conclusively suggests that the American consumer has started to retrench.
Q You never hear that.
A Nobody wants to believe it. One reason may be that there is nothing else in sight to prop up the U.S. economy.
Q But isn't the consumer's income still growing?
A No, growth has stalled and a lot of the growth that there was came from the tax cut.
Q So, consumer spending may stagnate?
A Especially if the consumer continues to rebuild savings, which has just recently been running at three to four percent of disposable income. This will probably increase in the future. That's the kind of thing that will end the borrowing and spending excesses of the boom.
Q Why?
A Any rise in savings exerts a drag on economic growth and this squeezes profits.
Q Well, so far the consumer hasn't slackened measurably.
A They have postponed the day of reckoning by loading themselves with more debt. Much of this debt can't be repaid.
Q As you say, people have faith in the monetary authorities. That's one reason they keep spending.
A This faith is utterly amazing. It overwhelms the facts. It's based on the Federal Reserve creating money and credit with reckless abandon and the consumer borrowing and spending with reckless abandon. Nobody seems to understand the extraordinary excesses of these two and how they have been responsible for the present economic and financial mess.
Q I have to agree with you. People don't see anything foreboding in these developments.
A It's time they did. The economic news is going from bad to worse. Never before has the world experienced such massive destruction of stock market wealth and never before have business profits and business capital spending suffered such steep declines.
Q You see business profits as key to the whole crisis don't you?
A We have continually warned of the economy's unusually poor profit performance during the prior boom years. As the economy sharply slowed during 2001, it turned into a virtual profit implosion. Profit margins are at their lowest since the Depression in the 1930s. Moreover, there is nothing in sight that might reverse this progressive profit erosion.
Q What are the consequences?
A CEO's have capitulated to the profits disaster. Their solution has been a savage curtailment of their investment spending.
Q Why are investment spending and capital formation so important?
A In the end, it is all about capital investment. It is the critical mass in the process of economic growth that generates all the things that make for rising wealth and living standards. Capital investment means the construction of new buildings, plants and equipment. This creates demand, employment, income, profits and tangible wealth. The installation of these capital goods creates growing supply, productivity, employment, incomes and profits that, by the way, also repay the debts. Always remember that capital formation is strategic for generating general prosperity.
Q Okay. So, what's causing the profits decline that's ruining capital investment?
A First, let me say that when you consider the key role of profits in shaping economic activity, it's puzzling how little attention this exceptional profits carnage is getting. Especially since there is nothing in sight that might improve U.S. corporate profitability and stimulate business capital investment.
Q Give us the cause of the profits problem.
A Corporate cost cutting, for one. The widespread measures that individual firms take to improve their own profits have, in the aggregate, the opposite effect on the profits of other firms. Business spending is the key source of business revenues, not consumer spending. A retrenchment in business spending cuts business revenues. Higher profits and higher prosperity cannot possibly come out of general cost cutting.
Q What else impacts profits?
A Rising depreciation charges on plants and equipment are a drag on profits.
Q And?
A Corporations took on an enormous amount of new debt and the interest charges are a record high expense. For example, in 1997, interest expense accounted for 23% of manufacturing profits; in 2001 for almost 100%.
Q But this borrowed money went into productive assets that improved profits, didn't it?
A Very little went to net new investment. It's great bulk went into mergers, acquisitions and stock repurchases, adding nothing to the economy's productive capacity. Huge amounts were dissipated in worthless goodwill, reflecting absurdly high payments for acquisitions.
Q None of this borrowing helped profits?
A No. As profits went down, corporations effectively devastated their balance sheets and credit ratings. The deterioration in credit quality has been unbelievable.
Q Let's get back to the discussion about the profits problem. Any other big drags on profits?
A The most important one of all. The U.S. trade deficit has ravaged U.S. business profits. In four years this deficit has soared from $128 billion to $450 billion annually.
Q How does the trade deficit squeeze profits?
A By directing current income and spending away from domestic producers to foreign producers. The trade deficit implements a direct transfer of profits from the United States to foreign countries. Considering the deficits monstrous size, it massacres U.S. profits.
Q What does this profits decline imply for the stock market?
A U.S. stocks today are still overvalued. The worst part of the bear markets is still to come and it will result in the wholesale destruction of the financial wealth derived from the bubble economy.
Q Only a few years ago we heard stories about an endless boom and a new era. What went wrong?
A Americans new brand of capitalism didn't work. Corporate managers concentrated on creating shareholder value through stock buybacks, cost cutting, mergers and acquisitions. This strategy helped drive share price to absurdly high levels, but the effects on the economy were destructive.
Q Why?
A Mr. Cook, these strategies do not build factories. They do not increase business revenue. To the extent that they curb new investment, which they do, they reduce profits.
Q Could you elaborate?
A Rising prosperity and rising living standards do not come from existing factories, but from new factories. It's not productivity that creates wealth. It's investment spending alone and not consumer spending that propels economic growth. The wealth effects of free enterprise have always accrued through the building of factories, not through the stock market or reckless consumer borrowing and spending.
Q You mean these companies used their capital for financial engineering and speculation rather than building productive facilities?
A Absolutely. As an example, most of the profits in the high tech sector came from huge gains in the stock market.
Q Are you saying the new information technology didn't deliver profits?
A Yes, and it's the greatest irony that the worst profit numbers have come from the high tech sector for which Wall Street was trumpeting unprecedented miracles of productivity and profit growth. These poor profits subsequently turned into a profits collapse.
Q What's your explanation for this failure?
A The importance of information and information technology for production and wealth creation was ridiculously overestimated.
Q Doesn't high tech have the greatest productivity gains?
A Such productivity growth is statistical hot air.
Q I won't go there. I know you think hedonic pricing is statistical nonsense.
A When you see this statistical fudging, it makes us wonder if systematic delusion lies behind these practices.
Q Okay, let's move on. You didn't mention the effect on corporate balance sheets of the new era financing of mergers, acquisitions and stock buybacks.
A Corporate managers leveraged their balance sheets with the recklessness of desperadoes who have everything to gain in the short run and nothing to lose in the long run. They ruined their balance sheets to conceal and offset the increasingly disappointing profit performance.
Q Sounds ugly.
A They substituted more expensive debt for equity. The trick was to fool investors by shrinking the number of shares.
Q I have to say that you were blowing the whistle on these dubious practices long before anyone else.
A The sudden outbreak of profit chicanery was based on the common desire to hide a disastrous profit performance. That's the key point to recognize.
Q Some would argue that it lifted share prices?
A Only temporarily. At best they are saddled with debt that depresses profits and at worst they've ruined their reputations and their future.
Q What are the ramifications of taking on so much debt?
A Declining credit availability for corporations and the possibility of a credit crunch. Badly ravaged, highly fragile balance sheets and very poor profit performance have severely reduced corporate creditworthiness. I cannot imagine a good outcome from this predicament.
Q Let's talk for a moment about savings. What are your concerns about the low savings rate?
A Savings is the indispensable condition for economic growth. Without savings out of current income there can't be an increase in productive facilities or capital stock.
Q How come economists here don't see this as a problem?
A There's a general refusal to see reality. The total carnage of national savings is the U.S. economy's most important predicament. This is the economy's supply of capital.
Q What's happened to the savings we've already accrued?
A They've been squandered to pay for spending the consumers can't afford from their current income. And corporations have been funding dividend payments out of their retained earnings.
Q What happens to countries with low savings?
A They have low investment, low wages and low profits.
Q But the government economists and the Fed are saying we don't have to get it done with savings; we can do it with spending and credit. What about that?
A Ha! I don't think you can turn vice into virtue.
Q Why not?
A Credit creates spending power out of nothing. Credit alone can't sustain a growing economy for long. Today's soaring debt load has to be repaid. I have little doubt that a debt crisis lies ahead. When most of the debt is used for unproductive purposes like consuming and speculation, it must eventually lead into a debt trap. The reckless pursuit of debt is economic insanity.
Q A lot of this is mortgage refinancing isn't it?
A One is tempted to say that the American public is monetizing their homes.
Q And this alarms you?
A I can only say that in Europe to use one's home as collateral is something that neither homeowners nor bankers would consider, except perhaps in the case of an emergency.
Q I've never heard any American economist or Wall Street spokesman speak against it. In fact, they encourage it.
A No doubt. Mortgage refinancing and home equity lending have been at the epicenter of the credit explosion. I must admit to have grossly underestimated this component of the American bubble. I can only say it has removed any doubts that this is by far the greatest and the worst credit bubble that the world has ever seen.
Q But only you and a small handful of critics make mention of it. The public likes it and everybody in the mortgage business is making hay.
A They should enjoy it while they can. The U.S. financial system today hangs in a precarious position. It's a house of cards built on nothing but financial leverage, credit excess, speculation and derivatives.
Q Are we going to fall down and go boom?
A I would say prepare for much worse to come.
Q What's the nature of this recession you predict?
A It will prove unusually severe and long.
Q Why?
A The key to fathoming the severity of the future crisis lies in appreciating the vulnerability of an economy and financial system that have for years been exposed to the most reckless financial expansion and speculation in history.
Q That's Austrian business cycle theory, right?
A Yes, the length and severity of recessions or depressions depend critically on the magnitude of the dislocations and imbalances that have accumulated in the economy during the preceding boom.
Q And that's why you consistently predicted that the U.S. economy was in for a hard landing?
A Yes. Allow me to summarize. The U.S. economy of the 1990s ranks as the worst bubble economy in history. The boom was built on nothing but leverage upon leverage. A vanishing supply of domestic savings was more than subsidized by boundless credit creation for leveraging asset holdings.
Q And the Fed's the culprit?
A The all-important thing to see is that the Federal Reserve abandoned any control of money and credit creation. The power of the American credit machine to create credit out of the blue is unique and unprecedented.
Q Well, some would say it's saved the economy.
A This excessive monetary looseness has only postponed and magnified the coming inevitable crisis.
Q Let's talk about the dollar. You have said that it will weaken, and to some extent, it has. Is there more weakness to come?
A We regard it as an inescapable event. Growing disillusionment with the U.S. economy is the trigger.
Q But doesn't the world like a strong dollar?
A It suited the rest of the world because it boosted their exports and it suited the United States as a boost to its financial markets. In actual fact, the huge capital inflows have become the U.S. financial markets' single most important pillar. Take this pillar away, and those markets will instantly collapse with devastating effects for the U.S. economy, turning quickly into a savage credit crunch.
Q Could it happen that fast?
A The fact is that the exposure of the U.S. financial markets to foreign investors and lenders has grown to such preposterous magnitude during recent years that controlled, gradual dollar devaluation no longer appears feasible. Under today's extreme circumstances, the alternative is only between a strong and a collapsing dollar.
Q Is there any cure for that?
A In order to avoid the worst, the Fed may be forced to drastically raise interest rates?
Q My goodness!
A The dangers that loom on the currency front are immense. The grossly overleveraged U.S. financial system is hostage to a strong dollar and permanent, huge capital inflows. The U.S. trade deficit and the accumulated foreign indebtedness have reached a scale that defies any possible action by central banks. The fate of the dollar is beyond any control.
Q Thank you, sir.
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I don't know George. We are oversold but the only thing that matters in a bear market is being overbought. Think gold must test 355 again before it takes it's next cue for direction. USD better hold 103 or skip that rally.
Gold 345.30...guess 348-354 is coming before the slam down.
Yep, couldn't agree with you more. I think they are saving their ammo for the 354 marker.
Sounds like that guy is in the Prechter camp. I tend is disagree...gold has historically performed well in deflationary periods, in fact, better than in inflationary periods. Steve Saville has written recent articles about this. As stocks, bonds fall and cash gets it's 1% interest, a rush to hard assets will ensue such as real estate, art, gold.
Gold 341.20 and USD in a huge bear flag breakdown target 90.
How about the yella today?
Hey! LD Keynes???? Nahhhhhh! ROFLMAO!
I'm thinking minimum 400 possibly 500 by mid year 2003. I am trying to accumulate the juniors and every little decline while their this cheap means more shares when you buy back in...even if it's within a 10 minute timeframe. I play the somewhat predictable ones...were not at the big monster of a mark up phase yet but were getting very close and maybe just starting the IT phase now. Every share counts here.
George, You think were close to a minor gold correction here? I think well retest 336 and then lose it to at least 329 before we really crank up again. Shake that tree...LOL!
I just cleared all golds. While I think gold will retest 336, the COT report says correction coming. Were over extended here...careful.
Looks like a trip to the neckline at 1320 now...these indices are in deep sh*t IMO.
COT report comes out soon. That will be your clue.
Houston, we have a problem....USD bear flag breakdown and violation of 6 year uptrend line....bye bye equities.