I think you are right on all of that. Bannon says Gaetz is Trump's blowtorch on the DOJ. If that goes through sod help America. Democrats are have to be as hard as you were when you hit that guy. That wasn't a dishonest dirty trick, it was just gutsy hard as you can possibly play.

Heaphy says it's insider v outsider now .. rather than rt v left

could be really damaging to the rule of law, and everyone know what Trump thinks of the rule of law.

Decapitation Strike

Preserving America from Trump's Appointments

Timothy Snyder
Nov 16, 2024

Each of Trump's proposed appointments is a surprise. It is comforting to think that he is simply a vengeful old man, lashing out this way and that. This is unlikely. He and Musk and Putin have been talking for years. And the whole idea of his campaign was that this time he had a plan.

We should be wary of shock, which excuses inaction. Who could have known? What could I have done? If there is a plan, shock is part of the plan. We have to get through the surprise and the shock to see the design and the risk. We don't have much time. Nor is outrage the point. Of course we are outraged. But our own reactions can distract is from the larger pattern.

The newspapers address the surprise and the shock by investigating each proposed appointment individually. And we need this. With detail comes leverage and power. But clarity must also come, and quickly. Each appointment is part of a larger picture. Taken together, Trump’s candidates constitute an attempt to wreck the American government.

In historical context we can see this. There is a history of the modern democratic state. There is also a history of engineered regime change and deliberate state destruction. In both histories, five key zones are health, law, administration, defense, and intelligence. These people, with power over these areas of life, can make America impossible to sustain.

The foundation of modern democratic state is a healthy, long-lived population. We lived longer in the twentieth century because of hygiene and vaccinations, pioneered by scientists and physicians and then institutionalized by governments. We treat one another better when we know we have longer lives to lose. Health is not only the central human good; it enables the peaceful interactions we associate with the rule of law and democracy. Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., the proposed secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services, would undo all of this. On his watch, were his ideas implemented, millions of us would die. Knowing that our lives will be shorter, we become nasty and brutish.

A modern democratic state depends upon the rule of law. Before anything else is possible, we have to endorse the principle that we are all governed by law, and that our institutions are grounded in law. This enables a functional government of a specific sort, in which leaders can be regularly replaced by elections. It allows us to live as free individuals, within a set of rules that we can alter together. The rule of law depends on people who believe in the spirit of law. Matt Gaetz, the proposed attorney general, is the opposite of such a person. It is not just that he flouts law himself, spectacularly and disgustingly. It is that he embodies lawlessness, and can be counted upon to abuse law to pursue Trump's political opponents. The end of the rule of law is an essential component of a regime change.

The United States of America exists not only because laws are passed, but because we can expect that these laws will be implemented by civil servants. We might find bureaucracy annoying; its absence, though, is deadly. We cannot take the pollution out of the air ourselves, or build the highways ourselves, our write our Social Security checks ourselves. Without a civil service, the law becomes mere paper, and all that works is the personal connection to the government, which the oligarchs will have, and which the rest of us will not. This is the engineered helplessness promised by Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy, who are to head a black hole named after a cryptocurrency. There are already oversight instruments in government. DOGE is something entirely different: an agency of destruction, run by people who believe that government should exist for the wealthy or not at all.


In a modern democratic state, the armed forces are meant to preserve a healthy, long-lived people from external threats. This principal has been much abused in American practice. But never before Donald Trump have we had a president who has presented the purpose of the armed forces as the oppression of Americans. Trump says that Russia and China are less of a threat than "internal enemies." In American tradition, members of the armed forces swear an oath to the Constitution. Trump has indicated that we would prefer "Hitler's generals," which means a personal oath to himself. Pete Hegseth, Trump's proposed secretary of defense, defends war criminals and displays tattoos associated with white nationalism and Christian nationalism. He is a fundraiser and television personality, with a complicated sexual past and zero experience running an organization.

In a world of hostile powers, an intelligence service is indispensable. Intelligence can be abused, and certainly has been abused. Yet it is necessary to consider military threats: consider the Biden administration's correct call the Russia was about to invade Ukraine. It is also necessary to counter the attempts by foreign intelligence agencies, which are constant, to harm American society. This often involves disinformation. Tulsi Gabbard, insofar as she is known at all, is known as a spreader of Syrian and Russian disinformation. She has no relevant experience. Were she to become director of national intelligence, as Trump proposes, we would lose the trust of our allies, and lose contact with much of what is happening in the world -- just for starters. We would be vulnerable to all of those who wish to cause us harm.

Imagine that you are a foreign leader who wishes to destroy the United States. How could you do so? The easiest way would be to get Americans to do the work themselves, to somehow induce Americans to undo their own health, law, administration, defense, and intelligence. From this perspective, Trump's proposed appointments -- Kennedy, Jr.; Gaetz; Musk; Ramaswamy; Hegseth; Gabbard -- are perfect instruments. They combine narcissism, incompetence, corruption, sexual incontinence, personal vulnerability, dangerous convictions, and foreign influence as no group before them has done. These proposed appointments look like a decapitation strike: destroying the American government from the top, leaving the body politic to rot, and the rest of us to suffer.

I do not defend the status quo. I have no doubt whatsoever that the Department of Defense and the Food and Drug Administration require reform. But such a reform, of these or other agencies, would have to be guided by people with knowledge and experience, who cared about their country, and who had a vision of improvement. That is simply not what is happening here. We are confronted instead with a group of people who, were they to hold the positions they have been assigned, could bring an end to the United States of America.

It is a mistake to think of these people as flawed. It is not they will do a bad job in their assigned posts. It is that they will do a good job using those assigned posts to destroy our country.

However and by whomever this was organized, the intention of these appointments is clear: to create American horror. Elected officials should see this for what it is. Senators, regardless of party, should understand that the United States Senate will not outlast the United States, insist on voting, and vote accordingly. The Supreme Court of the United States will likely be called upon. Although it is a faint hope, one must venture it anyway: that its justices will understand that the Constitution was not in fact written as the cover story for state destruction. The Supreme Court will also not outlast the United States.

And citizens, regardless of how they voted, need now to check their attitudes. This is no longer a post-electoral moment. It is a pre-catastrophic moment. Trump voters are caught in the notion that Trump must be doing the right thing if Harris voters are upset. But Harris voters are upset now because they love their country. And Harris voters will have to get past the idea that Trump voters should reap what they have sown. Yes, some of them did vote to burn it all down. But if it all burns down, we burn too. It is not easy to speak right now; but if some Republicans wish to, please listen.

Both inside and outside Congress, there will have to be simple defiance, joined with a rhetoric of a better America. And, at moments at least, there will also have to be alliances among Americans who, though they differ on other matters, would like to see their country endure.

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Simple defiance. GOP did it when they decided on Obama's first inauguration day to oppose every bit of Obama legislation.

It has to be be knuckle time.

Done all that. Covers are sorta all folded up at bottom of bed with warmer weather only use one now. Have gone through all of them. It's somewhere i've already looked just not clinically good enough. I'll buy a few pairs next chance i get. LOL it's just that usually a lost thing turns up before now. It's a challenge as much as anything. Right now am not wearing socks.

Sure won't. Guess some progress has been made on smoking, but wait til the research on vapes starts to surface.

LOL Could be but just now am a sorta, kinda, really low on socks. And buying them is so goddamn boring. Rather be here.

I'd read it too, then some months ago came across a brain experts opinion in which she said many have said it and think it but research suggests doing crosswords really only helps to do crosswords better. Same for other puzzles. I just searched and got mostly what is i think now is a bit of a myth. Let's look here ..

Frailty contributes to it - https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=175368021 .

Plaques and tangles likely contribute - https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=172578142

Bumps, tau - https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=170676975

Cholesterol actually could be good - https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=171643129

Can't find it. This one goes back to the puzzles might help early thing -
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/do-reading-puzzles-and-similar-activities-really-stave-off-dementia#How-to-take-action-to-reduce-dementia-risk

Ah, this must be the one i'm thinking of - Can Crosswords and Games Prevent Dementia?

Experts say the answer is a puzzle.

[...]

Many studies have shown that playing these games can improve people’s cognitive abilities — not just on the specific task they’re working on, but related tasks, too. That “isn’t terribly surprising,” said Adrian Owen, a professor of cognitive neuroscience and imaging at Western University in Ontario, Canada, just as someone who practiced memorizing phone numbers would probably get better at remembering dates.

Evidence that playing one type of game will make you smarter overall or help you improve on a completely different kind of task is less compelling.

“Brain training works in the sense that, if you want to learn to play the violin,” you will get better if you practice the violin, Dr. Owen said. But if you learn to play the violin, “do you get any better at the trumpet? Well, the obvious answer is no.”

Some brain training companies have said that their games can also help stave off cognitive decline, but research investigating the connection is slim. One of the few studies that has looked at this found that healthy older adults who played a game designed to improve processing speed had a 29 percent lower risk of dementia a decade later. People who played two other games, a memory task or a problem-solving task, also had decreased risk, though the benefit wasn’t significant compared to people who didn’t play any games.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/30/well/mind/dementia-brain-training-puzzles.html

Yep. It really sucks. The inhumanity in humans is almost unbelievably bad.

I've never seen a rant like the one in the video arizona1, i think, posted. Pure vindictive, hateful venom. Unadulterated, the way he delivered it. Never seen anything like it before. He has to be seriously sick. Looked for it again but couldn't find that exact rant.

Not surprised he hasn't lasted as long as you have. Bullies are more likely not to.

Nookie yes. Cootie no. We all lose single socks, but in the last three days i have lost a single sock in the bedroom. Have been wearing one pair for work out back and one pair for other times. So not lost in the laundry. Not in another's bedroom. Couldn't be anywhere but in mine, but.... Do rats ever wear men's socks? Anyway, it's strange.

Cigarette companies, Dupont, oil companies. They all knew.

Yep, Dark Waters is spellbinding. Worse is the problem still exists to degree. And though the film's story
took place in W Virginia guess which state is foremost in some interested individuals' minds here.
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Research shows that company modeled and predicted global warming with ‘shocking skill and accuracy’ starting in the 1970s

Projections created internally by ExxonMobil starting in the late 1970s on the impact of fossil fuels on climate change were very accurate, even surpassing those of some academic and governmental scientists, according to an analysis published Thursday in Science by a team of Harvard-led researchers. Despite those forecasts, team leaders say, the multinational energy giant continued to sow doubt about the gathering crisis.

In “Assessing ExxonMobil’s Global Warming Projections,” researchers from Harvard and the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research show for the first time the accuracy of previously unreported forecasts created by company scientists from 1977 through 2003. The Harvard team discovered that Exxon researchers created a series of remarkably reliable models and analyses projecting global warming from carbon dioxide emissions over the coming decades. Specifically, Exxon projected that fossil fuel emissions would lead to 0.20 degrees Celsius of global warming per decade, with a margin of error of 0.04 degrees — a trend that has been proven largely accurate.

“This paper is the first ever systematic assessment of a fossil fuel company’s climate projections, the first time we’ve been able to put a number on what they knew,” said Geoffrey Supran, lead author and former research fellow in the History of Science at Harvard. “What we found is that between 1977 and 2003, excellent scientists within Exxon modeled and predicted global warming with, frankly, shocking skill and accuracy only for the company to then spend the next couple of decades denying that very climate science.”


“This paper is the first ever systematic assessment of a fossil fuel company’s climate projections, the first time we’ve been able to put a number on what they knew,” said Geoffrey Supran, lead author. File photo by Stephanie Mitchell/Harvard Staff Photographer

“We thought this was a unique opportunity to understand what Exxon knew about this issue and what level of scientific understanding they had at the time,” added co-author Naomi Oreskes, Henry Charles Lea Professor of the History of Science whose work looks at the causes and effects of climate change denial. “We found that not only were their forecasts extremely skillful, but they were also often more skillful than forecasts made by independent academic and government scientists at the exact same time.”

Allegations that oil company executives sought to mislead the public about the industry’s role in climate change have drawn increasing scrutiny in recent years, including lawsuits by several states and cities and a recent high profile U.S. House committee investigation.

Harvard’s scientists used established Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) statistical techniques to test the performance of Exxon’s models. They found that, depending on the metric used, 63-83 percent of the global warming projections reported by Exxon scientists were consistent with actual temperatures over time. Moreover, the corporation’s own projections had an average “skill score” of 72 percent, plus or minus 6 percent, with the highest scoring 99 percent. A skill score relates to how well a forecast compares to what happens in real life. For comparison, NASA scientist James Hansen’s global warming predictions presented to the U.S. Congress in 1988 had scores from 38 to 66 percent.

More: https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2023/01/harvard-led-analysis-finds-exxonmobil-internal-research-accurately-predicted-climate-change/

What to know about Trump's energy secretary nominee Chris Wright

"G20 talks in Rio reach breakthrough on climate finance, sources say"

Wright is an outspoken critic of policies aimed at curbing climate change.

By Peter Charalambous, Matthew Glasser, and Ivan Pereira
November 17, 2024, 12:04 PM

VIDEO - 1:34 National headlines from ABC News

President-elect Donald Trump announced Saturday that he has nominated Chris Wright, an executive of a fracking company who has fiercely criticized the existence of a climate crisis and the transition to renewable energy sources, to run the Department of Energy.

"As Secretary of Energy, Chris will be a key leader, driving innovation, cutting red tape, and ushering in a new 'Golden Age of American Prosperity and Global Peace,'" Trump said in a Truth Social post.


In this Jan. 12, 2018, file photo, Liberty Oilfield Services Inc. CEO Chris Wright rings a ceremonial bell to celebrate the companies IPO on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange shortly after the opening bell in New York. Lucas Jackson/Reuters, FILE

The Senate must approve Wright before he can assume his role.

He has had a long history in the energy industry and has been outspoken about fracking.

MORE: Can a president ban fracking? Experts fact-check Harris and Trump's oil and gas claims
https://abcnews.go.com/US/president-ban-fracking-experts-fact-check-harris-trumps/story?id=113584915

After earning a bachelor's degree in mechanical engineering and a master's degree in electrical engineering from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in the 80s, Wright worked for several energy companies, many of which focused on gas production, according to his LinkedIn page.

Wright, who has never worked in a government position, founded the publicly traded oilfield services firm Liberty Energy in 2010, which fracks 20% of the onshore wells nationally. The $3 billion company is involved in nearly 10% of the United States' total energy production, according to Wright.

Outspoken critic of policies aimed at curbing climate change

Wright has made several public comments chastising efforts to fight climate change with unproven claims.

"There is no climate crisis, and we're not in the midst of an energy transition either," Wright said in a video posted to LinkedIn last year.


In this Jan. 17, 2018, file photo, Liberty Oilfield Services CEO Chris Wright is shown in Denver. Andy Cross/Denver Post via Getty Images, FILE

"The only thing resembling a crisis with respect to climate change is the regressive opportunity squelching policies justified in the name of climate change," he added.

A 2021 study published in the environmental journal Environmental Research Letters, found that 99% of climate scientists .. https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/ac2966 .. agree that humans are causing global warming and climate change.

Wright is an outspoken critic of policies aimed at curbing climate change, including the Department of Energy's goal to reach net-zero carbon emissions by 2050.

"There is no such thing as clean energy or dirty energy," Wright said last year.

However, the Office of Energy Efficiency & Renewable Energy .. https://www.energy.gov/eere/why-clean-energy-matters .. says clean energy, like solar and wind, create little or no carbon emissions, the greenhouse gases responsible for human-amplified global warming.

While Wright does not dispute the existence of climate change, he has argued that policies aimed at reducing the impact of climate change are misguided and alarmist, describing the terms climate crisis, energy transition, carbon pollution, clean energy and dirty energy as "destructive deceptions" and "nonsense."

Wright claims that any negative impacts of climate change are "clearly overwhelmed by the benefits of increasing energy consumption" and believes that extreme weather events like hurricanes, tornadoes and floods have not increased because of climate change.

His claims are contrary to the real-world data and research on these natural disasters.

"It is unequivocal that human influence has warmed the atmosphere, ocean and land," a report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) said .. https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/ .

The U.S. Fifth National Climate Assessment .. https://nca2023.globalchange.gov/ .. found that human-amplified climate change is causing extreme rainfall events and extreme heat events to become more frequent and more intense.

'All in on energy'

In his LinkedIn profile, Wright says he is "all in on energy" – including oil, natural gas, nuclear, solar, and geothermal sources – though he's sharply critical of solar or wind energy advocates who suggest those sources are better for the environment, citing the amount of energy for wind or solar farm construction.

"It would be hard to call wind or solar clean or low environmental impact with a straight face," Wright said last year.

The World Resources Institute has said .. https://www.wri.org/insights/setting-record-straight-about-renewable-energy .. that "renewables generate more energy than is used in their production and produce fewer emissions than other power sources over their lifetime."

Wright also led a charge against some of the Biden administration's climate policies, including the Securities and Exchange Commission's rule requiring companies to disclose climate-related risks. Liberty Energy successfully convinced a federal appeals court to pause the rule shortly after it was finalized earlier this year.

MORE: Gulf Coast residents grapple with home insurers as climate disasters worsen
https://abcnews.go.com/US/gulf-coast-residents-grapple-home-insurers-climate-disasters/story?id=104955890

Wright has frequently donated to Republican candidates and political action committees, including donating $228,390 to Trump's joint fundraising committee earlier this summer. Last year, Wright's total compensation as the CEO of Liberty Energy was $5.6 million, according to a recent SEC filing.

Wright suggested in an interview on Bloomberg TV in July that the Trump administration would expand drilling on federal lands and make it easier to permit infrastructure like pipelines. Asked about how the Biden administration has overseen record oil production, Wright insisted that the United States needs to do more for oil and gas production.

In 2023, during the Biden administration, the United States broke a record for domestic oil production. The U.S. produced more crude oil than any other country in history -- an average of 12.9 million barrels per day, according to the U.S, Energy Information Administration .

Wright has vowed to decrease energy costs for the U.S., aligning with a promise Trump frequently made on the campaign trail.


In this Jan. 12, 2018, file photo, Liberty Oilfield Services Inc. CEO Chris Wright laughs as he celebrates the companies IPO on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange shortly after the opening bell in New York. Lucas Jackson/Reuters, FILE

"I make this pledge to the great people of America, I will end the devastating inflation crisis immediately, bring down interest rates and lower the cost of energy," Trump told the Republican National Convention. "We will drill, baby, drill."

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trumps-energy-secretary-nominee-chris-wright/story?id=115935864

Good man, have been meaning to get there.

LOLOL Good catch. Couple of years ago, must be now, I called one of the women behind the pub .. https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=175395065 .. bar over to have a look at the word puzzle we do whenever i buy the paper for it. You know how so many instinctively say "no way, i'm no good at that", she did. Lol now she's a whiz and just about every day we get into it she runs ahead of me. Then we get into the crossword too. Not the cryptic much, mostly foo tough for this old guy.

Heh, she told me awhile ago she now has the Times crossword app. and that she does it every day. I'll ask her if it's the same one.

LOL Not literally, just don't recall ever hearing that word before. Cootie. Nope never.

Appreciate the sentiment, but i have more faith - yeah still - that there are still enough people
with integrity around to win elections without going down that road. Think about all
parties lying as much as they could about everything. Nope. Wouldn't work.

That said that's a seriously good personal story. LOL Well done.

Standing up for what is right normally does gain respect. Obviously these are not normal times in your country.

All reason says that should be so. Sure hope we are right this time.

Good, thanks. No bs, fair-dinkum people must be more attractive to millions of Americans now.

rooster, Trainers send broken down horses to pasture. Another blatant lie now as that and you are gone for a spell.

Nominating an anti-vaxxer as Kennedy for for any position of responsibility involving the health of Americans is highly irresponsible, so it's not surprising Trump would do it. Why would he. As good a reason as any would be that they share an unhealthy skepticism of science,

In Gaetz, who faces allegations (which he denies) of illegal drug use and having sex with an underage girl, Trump sees himself, a man wrongly judged, he insists, as liable for sexual abuse. In Kennedy, an anti-vax conspiracy theorist, he sees a vindication of his own suspicion of science and his wildly erratic handling of the Covid crisis. In Hegseth, who defends war criminals and lambastes “woke” generals, he sees vengeance against the military establishmentarians who called him unfit. In Gabbard, who finds the good in foreign dictators, he sees someone who might shape the work of the intelligence agencies to help justify ending U.S. support for Ukraine. In other words, Trump’s nominations—in their reckless endorsement of the dangerously unqualified—look like the most flagrant act of vindictive trolling since the rise of the Internet. But it is a trolling beyond mischief. All these appointees are meant to bolster Trump’s effort to lay waste to the officials and the institutions that he has come to despise or regard as threats to his power or person. These appointees are not intended to be his advisers. They are his shock troops. https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=175400029

and an attraction to conspiracy theory. Anyway:

What R.F.K. Jr. Gets Right — and Wrong — About Nutrition

We fact-checked five of his most repeated claims.


Brian Snyder/Reuters

By Alice Callahan
Nov. 15, 2024

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As part of a promise to address the high rates of chronic disease in the United States, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. — who was recently tapped by President-elect Donald J. Trump to lead the Department of Health and Human Services — has said that he would “fix our broken food system.”

In interviews and on social media, Mr. Kennedy has made a number of claims about the country’s food supply and eating habits. We fact-checked five of his most repeated refrains.

Ultraprocessed Foods

His claim: Ultraprocessed foods are driving the obesity epidemic, and they should be removed from school lunches.

What the research suggests: Many public health and nutrition experts agree that ultraprocessed foods — which make up an estimated 73 percent of the U.S. food supply — are probably contributing to the obesity crisis in the United States, and it would be beneficial to cut back on them.

But the category is wide-ranging, and it’s not clear if all ultraprocessed foods are harmful .. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/05/well/eat/ultraprocessed-foods-types-unhealthy-study.html , experts say. There may be downsides to avoiding some ultraprocessed foods, like flavored yogurts and whole wheat breads and cereals, they add, because they can provide valuable nutrients.

Lindsey Smith Taillie, an associate professor of nutrition at the U.N.C. Gillings School of Global Public Health, said that it would be “transformative” to remove ultraprocessed foods from school lunches. But, she added, schools would need more resources to prepare meals from scratch.

How Bad Are Ultraprocessed Foods, Really?
They’re clearly linked to poor health. But scientists are only beginning to understand why.
May 6, 2024
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/06/well/eat/ultraprocessed-foods-harmful-health.html

Food Dyes

His claim: Food dyes cause cancer, and A.D.H.D. in children.

What the research suggests: While some small clinical trials have suggested that certain synthetic food dyes may increase hyperactivity in children, there is no solid evidence that they directly cause A.D.H.D. However, many experts agree that because food dyes aren’t nutritionally necessary, it wouldn’t hurt to avoid them.

In 1990, the Food and Drug Administration banned the use of Red Dye No. 3 in cosmetics after research in animals linked it to cancer. At the time, the agency said that it would also work to extend the ban to foods and drugs, but it has not yet done so. The F.D.A. is currently reviewing the safety of Red Dye No. 3 .. https://www.fda.gov/industry/color-additives/fdc-red-no-3 .

Are Food Dyes Safe for Children?
California is banning several of them in schools. Here’s what we
know about the concerns that have been swirling for years.
Aug. 26, 2024
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/26/well/eat/food-dye-california-ban.html


Raw Milk

His claim: Mr. Kennedy has said that he only drinks raw milk and has suggested that the restrictions on small farmers from selling raw milk should be re-examined.

What the research suggests: Food safety experts say that because raw (or unpasteurized) milk can contain harmful pathogens like E. coli, listeria and salmonella, drinking it can cause serious food-borne illness .. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/19/well/raw-milk-health-salmonella.html , so it should be avoided. Raw milk is especially risky for young children, older adults, pregnant women and those with weakened immune systems.

Raw Milk Is Booming. A Salmonella Outbreak Highlights Its Risks.
At least 171 people have been sickened in an outbreak linked to
Raw Farm milk. Experts say that number could be far higher.
July 19, 2024
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/19/well/raw-milk-health-salmonella.html

Sugar

His claim: Mr. Kennedy has suggested that consuming too many added sugars, especially from high fructose corn syrup, contributes to childhood obesity and cardiovascular disease.

What the research suggests: This is correct. There is solid evidence that consuming too many added sugars, including from high fructose corn syrup, can drive up the risk for a number of health problems, including cardiovascular disease, Type 2 diabetes, fatty liver disease, obesity and cavities.

Americans consume, on average, about twice the American Heart Association’s recommended limit for added sugars, with sweetened beverages like sugary sodas being a top source.

This Is Your Body on Sugar
Excessive consumption of sugar can increase the risk of health problems. Here's what that looks like in the body.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/10/30/well/eat/sugar-health-effects-risks.html

Seed Oils

His claim: Americans are being “unknowingly poisoned” by seed oils like canola, soybean and sunflower oils, and it would be healthier for restaurants to fry food in beef tallow instead.

What the research suggests: The claim that seed oils are harmful to health is false, nutrition experts say .. https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/09/well/eat/seed-oil-effects.html . Decades of research have shown that seed oils are not only safe, but the heart-healthy unsaturated fats they contain have been linked with reduced risks for cardiovascular disease, Type 2 diabetes, cancer and earlier death. Seed oils are a far better choice for health than solid fat alternatives, like beef tallow, butter or lard, which are high in saturated fats.


Are Seed Oils Actually Bad for You?
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and others claim they’re harming our health,
but the evidence suggests otherwise.
Nov. 9, 2024
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/09/well/eat/seed-oil-effects.html


Alice Callahan is a Times reporter covering nutrition and health. She has a Ph.D.
in nutrition from the University of California, Davis. More about Alice Callahan

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/15/well/eat/rfk-jr-food-nutrition-health.html

rooster, You know that's not true, so cut it.

Thanks. Trump's idea would be not to give up the presidency in four years. Some other's plan could be that Vance is there to take over too. They will do whatever more they can to turn create a strongman government with a semblance of democracy. Don't think that's in dispute any more.

So we leave it to see what the future holds. Good idea.

conix, The border situation has not been solved by either party and never will be. You'll likely get more wall now, still Trump will continue to lie about it. He has dishonestly milked it to win two elections, and you have lied about it repeatedly. It's about time to call it quits on all of your border bs ..

Illegal immigration rose significantly while Donald Trump was president...
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chessman, Is the photo on the net elsewhere? if so, couldn't you provide a link to it?

zab, You're right. Trump did not reduce illegal immigration. Facts to Trump, conix et al, are of no value unless they fit their cause.

Illegal immigration rose significantly while Donald Trump was president, much of it driven by Central Americans fleeing their homes. Apprehensions at the Southwest border, a proxy for illegal entry, increased by more than 100 percent between FY 2016 .. https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/assets/documents/2018-Mar/CBP-fy2016-border-security-report.pdf .. and FY 2019 .. https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration/fy-2019?language_content_entity=en .. (from 408,870 to 851,508), according to a National Foundation for American Policy analysis. In March 2020, with the onset of the Covid-19 pandemic, Border Patrol encounters declined. However, Border Patrol encounters on the Southwest border increased from 16,182 in April 2020 to 69,032 by October 2020, a rise of 327%.

Much of the increase in illegal immigration after Biden took office reflected the end of the Covid-19 pandemic, a more robust U.S. economy relative to the rest of the Western hemisphere and a large-scale refugee crisis in the region .. https://nfap.com/studies/the-historic-refugee-crisis-in-the-western-hemisphere/ . Government repression and economic problems in Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua and elsewhere have played a significant role in pushing migrants to the U.S. border.

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Fourth time .. conix, conix, President Trump Reduced Legal Immigration. He Did Not Reduce Illegal Immigration
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rooster, I've said to you before you can't be as stupid as you act. Either i'm wrong, or
you are a bigger liar than Trump is. Even he would not deny those facts as you have.

Personally, i think your suggestion our side gets into disinformation as the other does is wrong.

Just says how out of it i've become. Sad.

conix, Factual reporting high. Not surprised that means little to you. Your NYPost two
steps below the New Yorker .. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/new-york-post/ ..
on what really should be the more important criterion to any person with integrity.

You people who don't see facts as best known as important have lost your way.

LOL New word for me .. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooties . Where the hell do you get them from...

Is this (finally) the end for X? Delicate Musk-Trump relationship and growing rivals spell trouble for platform

"A Little-Known Way That Trump Could Raise Money to Pay His Legal Bills
"Trump's net worth sinks $1 billion as Truth Social shares go into free fall: reports
"Trump Media Merger Provides Trump a Potential Cash Lifeline"


Elon Musk has placed X at the heart of his relationship with Donald Trump. But what will happen if the two volatile men fall out? Photograph: Klyona/Alamy

The former Twitter could fade away, or help shape a dark future hosting voices of a new authoritarian world

Siân Boyle
Sun 17 Nov 2024 19.00 AEDT

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Was that the week that marked the death of X? The platform formerly regarded as a utopian market square for exchanging information has suffered its largest exodus to date.

Bluesky, emerging as X’s newest rival, has amassed 16 million users, including 1 million in the course of 24 hours last week. Hundreds of thousands of people have quit the former Twitter since Donald Trump’s election victory on 6 November.

The catalyst is X’s owner, Elon Musk, the world’s richest man, who transformed the social media site and used it as a megaphone to blast Trump into the White House.

The US president-elect said Musk would head the new Department of Government Efficiency, the acronym for which, Doge, is a pun on the dog internet meme .. https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/article/2024/may/24/dog-that-inspired-doge-meme-and-became-the-face-of-dogecoin-dies .. and the Dogecoin cryptocurrency, started as a joke by its creators, which jumped in value after Musk dubbed it “the people’s crypto” in 2021.

Musk now sits at the heart of the US government, yet requires no Senate approval for his actions and can continue to work in the private sector. He’s allowed to keep X and his 204 million followers, as well as head his electric car company Tesla and rocket company SpaceX. For the first time in history, a big tech billionaire is now shaping democracy not just indirectly, via his media, but directly.

“I’m not aware of any precedent for this approach,” said Rob Enderle, president of the technology analyst firm Enderle, who has worked with companies including Microsoft, Sony and Dell.


Bluesky celebrates amassing 16 million users. Photograph: Mario Tama/Getty Images

As recently as 2022, Musk tweeted ..

For Twitter to deserve public trust, it must be politically neutral, which effectively means upsetting the far right and the far left equally

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) April 27, 2022

.. that “for Twitter to deserve public trust, it must be politically neutral, which effectively means upsetting the far right and the far left equally.” He tweeted that “Trump would be 82 at end of his term, which is too old to be chief executive of anything, let alone the United States of America.”

Months later, when Musk bought Twitter for $44bn, he fired content moderators and charged for account verification, which meant people could buy influence. Twitter was rebranded to X, shed millions of users and reinstated Trumps’s account, suspended after the White House insurrection in January 2021.

The proliferation on X of alt-right diatribe, hate speech and bots, as well as Musk’s own clash with the UK government .. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/article/2024/aug/18/inciting-rioters-in-britain-was-a-test-run-for-elon-musk-just-see-what-he-plans-for-america .. during the riots in August, have led to mounting disquiet among X users. The Guardian and Observer announced last week that their presence on the site was now untenable and they would no longer post. Stephen King, the author, left, saying it had become “too toxic”. Oscar-winners Barbra Streisand and Jamie Lee Curtis have departed the platform.

“X has become effectively Truth Social premium,” said Mark Carrigan, author of Social Media for Academics, referring to Trump’s hard-right social media platform. And the talk in technology circles is that Trump’s Truth Social could be folded into X.

If that happens, whose interests take priority? Would Musk suppress criticism of the authoritarian governments he does business with, or promote it? In the Donald and Elon media show, who is the puppet or paymaster?

“If that happens, it will be the ultimate amplification machine for Trump’s ideas – a political super-app masquerading as social media,” said James Kirkham of Iconic, which advises brands including Uber and EA Sports on digital strategies. “Forget Facebook or Fox News; the true heart of the GOP’s digital strategy could be X.”

“I’m expecting X and Truth Social to merge,” said Enderle. “But this could be one of the efforts that will come between Musk and Trump, given how overvalued Truth Social .. https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/oct/29/truth-social-trading-suspended .. now is.”

The bromance between the world’s two biggest egos is mutually beneficial only as long as the two transactional, power-hungry and impulsive men play nice. Trump is hawkish on China, one of Tesla’s most lucrative markets. Trump essentially campaigned against electric car manufacturing. Trump is protectionist; Musk opposes tariffs. On climate change, they are opposed.

Jonathan Monten, a political science professor at UCL, is sceptical over the durability of their relationship.“Musk’s use to Trump was both private money and providing a platform, or using a platform, to a more favourable pro-Trump line,” he said.

“It’s unclear what continued purpose or use Musk actually has to him. Yes, it’s sort of this celebrity story, but that’s Trump’s brand. He has one celebrity story today and tomorrow we’ll have another.”The early 2010s were the halcyon days of Twitter when activists, artists, lawyers, academics, policymakers, journalists and specialists of every flavour could connect, share information, exchange ideas and follow events in real time.


Elon Musk at an opening ceremony for Tesla’s China-made Model Y programme in Shanghai in 2020. Trump is taking a hard line on Chinese imports. Photograph: Aly Song/Reuters

It would be easy to portray Musk as the bogeyman, but some argue that it was TikTok and the advent of the algorithmic timeline that fundamentally destroyed Twitter. As social media began optimising for scale and for profit at the expense of user experience .. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/mar/11/users-advertisers-we-are-all-trapped-in-the-enshittification-of-the-internet , algorithms prioritised the “best” content – the content that shouted loudest or was most specifically tailored to users. Curated accounts to follow, and “most recent” content, fell by the wayside.

“As much as I think Musk has acted in harmful ways, I think part of this is about the logic of social media platforms as they evolve,” said Carrigan. “The consequences of an advertising-based model incentivise certain ways of organising the platform that create negative effects.”

Bluesky, which became the most popular app on the app store on Friday, is the choice for X refugees, although its 16 million users pale in insignificance compared to Meta’s Threads, which reported reaching 275 million monthly active users, and X with about 317 million..


Elon Musk speaks beside Donald Trump during a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, on 5 October. Photograph: Carlos Barría/Reuters

For some tech nerds, the X-odus is not something to mourn, but could herald the era of decentralised social networks they have been dreaming of known as the “Fediverse” .. https://fediverse.info/ .

How a second Trump term could further enrich Elon Musk: ‘There will be some quid pro quo’
Read more > https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/nov/10/donald-trump-enrich-elon-musk

Advocates of the “Fediverse” .. https://fediverse.info/ .. argue that there should be one account for any social media network in the same way that Gmail accounts can email any email addresses, or mobile numbers call users on any other network.

In walling off social networks so users can’t leave, the platform has the power. Instead, newer social networks including Bluesky .. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/bluesky .. are being built on “ecosystems” that enable them to interconnect.

No one knows what will happen to X, with predictions ranging from collapse, to flipping to an anti-Trump platform if Musk and the president lock horns, to becoming a training ground for Musk’s xAI venture .. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/article/2024/may/27/elon-musk-xai-raises-openai-funding-round . AI could gobble up social media, and xAI is valued at $40bn – almost the price Musk paid for Twitter.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/nov/17/bluesky-musk-trump-x-twitter-authoritarian-world

Zorax et al, any added insight on the scene appreciated.

Can't see any real indication of Reuters moving right, and lol yeah i know she didn't explain how she got the number. I just thought you may come into my post by mentioning something you had read about a proposed merger. I'm surprised you don't seem to have seen anything on the suggestion. One idea has been the objective could be to establish a far-right media propaganda presence. A government propaganda organ more suited to the Trump people. I'll try to find another and link it to something else.

Donald Trump’s Cabinet of Wonders

"Trump triumphant: How his White House will be different this time
" [...]There’s No Denying It Anymore: Trump Is Not a Fluke—He’s America
[...]After fours years in the wilderness, Donald Trump’s restoration presidency also threatens to be a retribution presidency."

Related: There Is a Reason Trump Wants Fewer Adults in the Room
[...]You do not need conventional credentials to successfully lead a government agency. You do need evidence of advanced competence at some skill or task that would justify a president’s decision to grant you the privilege of leading an executive agency, to say nothing of the power and authority that comes with it.
P - There is scant evidence for any of this among the latest batch of proposed nominees — not that there would be. The point of placing loyalists in positions of influence isn’t to make the government work; it is to bend the government to the president’s will, whatever that might be.
P - Recall Trump’s most frequent complaints as president in his first term. He was angry that the Department of Justice would not pursue his political enemies, mad that the generals would not entertain his desire to shoot protesters and furious that the “deep state” foiled his efforts to abuse the law. For his second term, then, Trump doesn’t want competence; he wants obedience.
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''I am Your RETRIBUTION': Trump's Most Incendiary Speech'

The President-elect’s nominations look like the most flagrant act of vindictive
trolling since the rise of the Internet. But it is a trolling beyond mischief.

By David Remnick
November 17, 2024


Illustration by João Fazenda

In the first few days after the reëlection of Donald Trump, one heard across the fruited plains and the canyons of the great cities a noisy welter of accusation, self-laceration, celebration, and rationalization. There were also conspicuous assurances of normalcy that went like this: The sun went down in the evening and came up in the morning. Democracy did not end or even falter; the election was democracy, after all. The once and future President would surely dispense with his frenzied campaign threats and get down to the mundane task of governing. Making America great yet again required sobriety and competence, and Trump and his councillors would undoubtedly recognize that obligation.

For the titans of business, the new Administration promised untold prosperity: regulation would ease, tax rates decline. Elon Musk would make government just as civil, generous, and “efficient” as his social-media platform, X. Jeff Bezos, having ordered the editorial board of his newspaper to spike its endorsement of Kamala Harris, selflessly tweeted “big congratulations” to Trump, on his “extraordinary political comeback.” Wall Street executives and Sand Hill Road philosophers exulted that the “mergers-and-acquisitions climate” would now bring opportunities beyond imagining. (How these opportunities might benefit the working class they presumably would clarify at a later date.)

Meanwhile, the President-elect convened his loyalists at Mar-a-Lago, where they went about putting together a White House staff and a Cabinet. Historically, this is a deliberative process that can, even with the noblest intentions, go horribly wrong. In “The Best and the Brightest,” David Halberstam wrote about an American tradition of mandarins in Washington as

an aristocracy come to power, convinced of its own disinterested quality, believing itself above both petty partisan interest and material greed. The suggestion that this also meant the holding and wielding of power was judged offensive by these same people, who preferred to view their role as service.

Halberstam’s larger subject was the aristocracy of Robert McNamara, Dean Rusk, McGeorge Bundy, and all the other exceptional men of the Ivy League and corporate boardrooms who helped guide the country into the Vietnam War.

At least as a matter of rhetoric, Trump is uninterested in conventional notions of expertise (which smacks of élitism). Nor is he focussed on assembling a council of constructive disagreement, a team of rivals (which smacks of disloyalty). As his personnel choices rolled out in recent days, it became clear that they pointed wholly to his long-held priorities—and they are not the common good. The nominations of Matt Gaetz as Attorney General, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., as Secretary of Health and Human Services, Pete Hegseth as Secretary of Defense, and Tulsi Gabbard as the director of National Intelligence are the residue of Trump’s resentments and his thirst for retribution.

Video From The New Yorker

Rachel Maddow talks with David Remnick

In Gaetz, who faces allegations (which he denies) of illegal drug use and having sex with an underage girl, Trump sees himself, a man wrongly judged, he insists, as liable for sexual abuse. In Kennedy, an anti-vax conspiracy theorist, he sees a vindication of his own suspicion of science and his wildly erratic handling of the Covid crisis. In Hegseth, who defends war criminals and lambastes “woke” generals, he sees vengeance against the military establishmentarians who called him unfit. In Gabbard, who finds the good in foreign dictators, he sees someone who might shape the work of the intelligence agencies to help justify ending U.S. support for Ukraine. In other words, Trump’s nominations—in their reckless endorsement of the dangerously unqualified—look like the most flagrant act of vindictive trolling since the rise of the Internet. But it is a trolling beyond mischief. All these appointees are meant to bolster Trump’s effort to lay waste to the officials and the institutions that he has come to despise or regard as threats to his power or person. These appointees are not intended to be his advisers. They are his shock troops.

Or could it be that the President-elect is out to reduce the country to the status of a global laughingstock? Until this spate of appointments, observers had long remarked that Trump had no sense of humor. Al Franken, late of the U.S. Senate and “Saturday Night Live,” is among those who have said that they have never heard Trump laugh. Smirk, perhaps, at the misfortune of others, but not laugh in the joyful sense.

Back in the days when Trump swanned about Manhattan as a caricature rich guy and gonif construction magnate, he was part of a metropolitan jokescape, up there in lights with John Gotti and Leona Helmsley. Spy, the satirical magazine of its time, fact-checked his finances (inflated) and his books (preposterous). Trump was not amused. His lawyers sent frequent letters to the editors, threatening litigation. He found himself in a similar mood, many years later, when Barack Obama, who had suffered Trump’s constant insinuations about his place of birth, took the occasion of the White House Correspondents’ Association dinner to rib the political aspirations of the host of “The Celebrity Apprentice.” Trump left the ballroom in a funk, nurturing, perhaps, an ominous resolve.

Trump has always been obsessed with dramas of dominance and submission, strength and weakness, who is laughing at whom. This is his lens for human relations generally, and particularly when it comes to politics, foreign and domestic. As long ago as January, 2016, Niraj Chokshi, then an enterprising reporter for the Washington Post, calculated the many times that Trump had pointed out that someone—Russia, China, OPEC, “the Persians,” “the mullahs”—was “laughing at us.” More recently, in this, his third Presidential campaign, Trump told a crowd at Mar-a-Lago, “November 5th is going to go down as the single most important day in the history of our country.” He added, “Right now, we’re not respected. Right now, our country is known as a joke. It’s a joke.”

Now Trump’s critics and an increasing number of his supporters are taking stock of his most disgraceful appointments—these men and women of perfect jawlines, dubious reputations, and rotten ideas. They wonder if this is not the ultimate joke, with national endangerment as its punch line. Dean Acheson, who helped Harry Truman design NATO and rebuild Europe under the Marshall Plan, titled his memoir “Present at the Creation.” Which of Donald Trump’s new advisers will line up to write the sequel? ♦

Published in the print edition of the November 25, 2024, issue, with the headline “Cabinet of Wonders.”

David Remnick has been the editor of The New Yorker since 1998 and a staff writer since 1992. He is the author of seven books; the most recent is “Holding the Note,” a collection of his profiles of musicians.

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Those Muslim leaders should have known long before the election that Trump would be worse for Palestinians than Biden has been. It's beyond reason. It's unadulterated ignorance on the part of any person protesting Israel's genocidal acts to have voted for Trump because they didn't think Biden was doing enough. Trump has always been less critical of Israel than Biden. It's beyond all reason that any of them would vote for Trump on the basis that he would be better for them. It's just yet another nonsensical thing about the election result.

Careful. Reuters i don't think are into selling as you suggest and the sentence doesn't say $670 is the share price.

"Truth shares currently trade at an astronomical $670 per user."

Am not saying the figure is correct but it isn't the share price. I put the question out there because there have been any number
of articles around for some time suggesting a merger. Why? For one, as a way for Musk to funnel more money to Trump.

conix, Your problem is the Dems obviously do understand

"A majority of voters would not have voted for Trump if the Dems understood that inflation
and border security was more important to the rank and file rather than championing (and
exerting political energy for) gender fluidity, open borders, lax crime enforcement etc."

all those things you continue to falsely claim they don't. The Dems didn't lose because they don't understand
those things and the Dems didn't lose because of the further disinformation you spewed above.

Both Democrats and Republicans have done many things wrong, yet Democrats lost because they were the party in power, and the system is such that many voters are struggling under cost of living pressures, and because they ran a woman, and because of an avalanche of misinformation, disinformation and lies from Trump's machine.

And because enough voters were suckered into believing Trump is more for the ordinary person than Kamala is.

The post is only a small intro to Bluesky. Not much. Bigger news is it's just past 5am here. LOL

So it seems. I only see of X what appears here. What's the latest with the merger chat?

Here’s how it could work. X is private, but it could merge into the $6 billion Trump Media’s public stock in what’s often called a reverse takeover – the same kind of small-eats-big deal in which Truth fused with listed SPAC Digital World Acquisition in the first place. That would immediately turn Trump’s 60% stake into a much smaller share of the combined firm. That’s no bad thing for Truth investors, because it will mute the effect if Trump decides to sell shares once his lock-up expires starting in September.

A deal would require both sides to agree a valuation for X. Musk bought it for $44 billion. One investor, Fidelity, has marked its stake down some 75%. But X might benefit from the Trump halo effect: Truth shares currently trade at an astronomical $670 per user. At even one-eighth of that multiple, X would be back to what Musk paid in 2023. He too could start to sell his stake, giving him liquidity for new endeavors in artificial intelligence, or space, or both. Daring as an X-Truth deal tie-up would be, it’s one place where this year’s election could create some unity after all.

https://www.reuters.com/breakingviews/musk-wants-help-trump-try-an-x-truth-tie-up-2024-07-29/

Four paywalls knocked me back before settling on that.

rooster, It's clear. Criminality, racism, abuse of women, lying, obviously aren't all that important in choosing
a president in the U.S.A. Just facts is all. Clearly no big deal so why would you question them as you do.

Surely you can understand life is easier if you at least accept it as it clearly is wherever you can. Understand?

rooster, Trump has a long history of racist language and racist acts. See

So you accept Trump acted as a racist in the 70's, but that's cool because so many others were. LOL. Some
were not racist back in the '60's. Or ever. Your 'others were' have nothing to do with the question of Trump.

Now move to his '80s casino time. My link .. https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=137667758 .. again, for your convenience.

You know, all those casinos that went bankrupt. Just a few of those achieved by your 'I am genius' businessman.

Then if you don't get right up to speed in that link this time, this one could help.

Trump's Long History of Racism
Of course his response to Charlottesville was late and insufficient – this is who he is
By Jesse Berney August 15, 2017
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/trumps-long-history-of-racism-w497876

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In 2024 Trump used racism to appeal to millions of American voters.

Racial views of Donald Trump
[...]
Pre-presidency

Housing discrimination cases

In 1973, the U.S. Department of Justice sued Trump Management, Donald Trump and his father Fred, for discrimination against African Americans in their renting practices.[4][31]

Testers from the New York City Human Rights Division had found that prospective black renters at Trump buildings were told there were no apartments available, while prospective White renters were offered apartments at the same buildings.[32] During the investigation, four of Trump's agents admitted to using a "C" (for "colored") or "9" code to label Black applicants and stated that they were told their company "discouraged rental to blacks" or that they were "not allowed to rent to black tenants," and that prospective Black renters should be sent to the central office while White renters could have their applications accepted on site. Three doormen testified to being told to discourage prospective Black renters by lying about the rental prices or claiming no vacancies were available.[33][34] A settlement was reached in 1975 where Trump agreed to familiarize himself with the Fair Housing Act, take out ads stating that Black renters were welcome, give a list of vacancies to the Urban League on a weekly basis, and allow the Urban League to present qualified candidates for 20% of vacancies in properties that were less than 10% non-White.[32][35]

Elyse Goldweber, the Justice Department lawyer tasked with taking Trump's deposition, has stated that during a coffee break Trump said to her directly, "You know, you don't want to live with them either."[36]

The Trump Organization was sued again in 1978 for violating terms of the 1975 settlement by continuing to refuse to rent to black tenants; Trump and his lawyer Roy Cohn denied the charges.[37][38][39] In 1983 the Metropolitan Action Institute noted that two Trump Village properties were still over 95% White.[40]

Central Park jogger case
Main article: Central Park jogger case

On the night of April 19, 1989, Trisha Meili was assaulted, raped, and sodomized in Manhattan's Central Park. On the night of the attack, five juvenile males—four African Americans and one of Hispanic descent—were apprehended in connection with a number of attacks in Central Park committed by around 30 teenage perpetrators. The prosecution ignored evidence suggesting there was a single perpetrator whose DNA did not match any of the suspects, instead using confessions that the suspects said were coerced and false.[41] They were convicted in 1990 by juries in two separate trials, receiving sentences ranging from 5 to 15 years. The attacks were highly publicized in the media.[42]

On May 1, 1989, Trump called for the return of the death penalty by taking out a full-page advertisement in all four of the city's major newspapers. He said he wanted the "criminals of every age" who were accused of beating and raping a jogger in Central Park "to be afraid."[43] Trump told Larry King on CNN: "The problem with our society is the victim has absolutely no rights and the criminal has unbelievable rights" and, speaking of another case where a woman was raped and thrown out a window, "maybe hate is what we need if we're gonna get something done."[44]

In 2002, an imprisoned serial rapist confessed to the jogger's rape, which was confirmed by DNA evidence,[45] and the convictions of the five men were vacated. They sued New York City in 2003 for malicious prosecution, racial discrimination, and emotional distress. Lawyers for the five defendants said that Trump's advertisement had inflamed public opinion.[43] The city settled the case for $41 million (~$52 million in 2023) in 2014. In June of that year, Trump called the settlement "a disgrace" and said that the group's guilt was still likely: "Settling doesn't mean innocence. [...] These young men do not exactly have the pasts of angels."[46][47]

In October 2016, when Trump campaigned to be president, he said that Central Park Five were guilty and that their convictions should never have been vacated,[48] attracting criticism from the Central Park Five themselves[49] and others. Republican senator John McCain retracted his endorsement of Trump, citing in part "outrageous statements about the innocent men in the Central Park Five case."[50] Yusuf Salaam, one of the five defendants, said that he had falsely confessed out of coercion, after having been mistreated by police while in custody.[51] Filmmaker Ken Burns, who directed the documentary The Central Park Five that helped clear the names of the accused, called Trump's comments "the height of vulgarity" and "out and out racism".[10]

In June 2019 in response to Ken Burns' documentary and the Netflix miniseries When They See Us, Trump stood by his previous statements, saying "You have people on both sides of that. They admitted their guilt. If you look at Linda Fairstein and if you look at some of the prosecutors, they think that the city should never have settled that case. So we'll leave it at that."[52]

Black professionals

In a 1989 interview with Bryant Gumbel, Trump stated: "A well-educated black has a tremendous advantage over a well-educated white in terms of the job market." Fortune magazine reported that Trump's statement was not confirmed by studies of factual evidence concerning the impact of an applicant's race on their job prospects.[53]

In his 1991 book Trumped! John O'Donnell quoted Trump as allegedly saying:

I've got black accountants at Trump Castle and at Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys wearing yarmulkes.... Those are the only kind of people I want counting my money. Nobody else... Besides that, I've got to tell you something else. I think that the guy's lazy. And it's probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks.

Trump told Playboy magazine in an interview published in 1997, "The stuff O'Donnell wrote about me is probably true."[54] Two years later, when seeking the nomination of the Reform Party for president, Trump denied having made the statement.[53]

Native American casino industry

During the early 1990s, competition from an expanding Native American casino industry threatened his Atlantic City investments. During this period Trump stated that "nobody likes Indians as much as Donald Trump" but then claimed without evidence that the mob had infiltrated Native American casinos, that there was no way "Indians" or an "Indian chief" could stand up to the mob, implied that the casinos were not in fact owned by Native Americans based on the owners' appearance, and depicted Native Americans as greedy.[55][56]

In 2000, Trump and his associates were fined $250,000 (equivalent to $420,000 in 2023) and publicly apologized for failing to reveal that they had financed advertisements criticizing the proposal of building more Native American casinos in the Catskill Mountains, which alluded to Mohawk Indians doing cocaine and bringing violence, asking: "Are these the new neighbors we want?" The advertisements, claiming to be funded by "grass-roots, pro-family" donors, were actually designed by Roger Stone, while Trump approved and financed the million-dollar venture.[55][57]

In 1993, Trump argued in Congress with ranking U.S. House Committee on Natural Resources member George Miller over Native American casinos. Trump felt the competition would hurt his own gambling interests. Miller asked, "Is this you?," discussing Indian ethnicity: "We're going to judge people by whether they have Indian blood whether they're qualified to run a casino or not?'" Trump responded, "That probably is me, absolutely. Because, I'll tell you what. If you look at some of the reservations that you've approved, that you, sir in your great wisdom have approved, I'll tell you right now, they don't look like Indians to me." Miller responded, "Thank God that's not the test of whether or not people have rights in this country or not – whether or not they pass your 'look' test."[58] In 2024, Ana Cabrera of MSNBC remarked, "Congressman George Miller of California, who confronted Trump in that 1993 clip, said that was the most irresponsible testimony he had heard in his 40 years in Congress."[58]

The Apprentice

In April 2005, Trump appeared on Howard Stern's radio show, where Trump proposed that the fourth season of the television show The Apprentice would feature an exclusively white team of blondes competing against a team of only African-Americans. Stern asked Trump if that would start a "racial war", to which Trump replied: "it would be handled very beautifully by me ... I'm very diplomatic." The proposal was rejected by television executives at NBC. The actual fourth season of The Apprentice concluded with Trump asking the male African-American winner of the season, Randal Pinkett, to share the honor with the runner-up, a white woman. Pinkett said this was "racist".[59]

Trump has also been accused of using racial slurs during filming of The Apprentice. Former Apprentice contestant and former Trump administration communications director Omarosa Manigault Newman stated that Trump used "the N-word and others." Bill Pruitt, co-producer of Season One of The Apprentice has also stated that Trump used a racial slur during filming of the show.[60]

2016 campaign

Mexican immigrants
Main article: Donald Trump presidential campaign, 2016 § Announcement

During an interview with Don Lemon, he defended his statements about Mexican immigrants by rhetorically asking “Who is doing the raping?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_views_of_Donald_Trump#Pre-presidency

Rogan must be aware of it too, which suggests Rogan is feeding his audience disinformation and misinformation.

It's all in black and white in many places. It's undeniable. Fact.

Trump was a habitual liar, an abuser of women who also cheated many contractors who did work for him and who managed a heap of business bankruptcies. What else do you need to be qualified for president. And he was a white man as so many millions of Americans see Jesus as. Better than a well qualified black woman, for sure.