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Fiancials are posted for several reasons quarter end/ year end and special circumstances. The 8K detailed the SPA. I believe (JMHO) that another 8K will be posted with the updated combined financials
In that case we should get financials Shortly!!!!
PURCHASE AND SALE OF SHARES
1.1 Purchase and Sale of Shares. Subject to and upon the terms and conditions of this Agreement, at the Closing, each Stockholder shall sell, transfer, convey, assign and deliver to Buyer, and Buyer shall purchase, acquire and accept from each Stockholder, all the Shares owned by such Stockholder, as set forth opposite such Stockholder’s name on Schedule 1.1 attached hereto. At the Closing, each Stockholder shall deliver to Buyer certificates evidencing the Shares owned by such Stockholder duly endorsed in blank or with stock powers duly executed by such Stockholder.
1.2 Purchase Price. The aggregate purchase price to be paid by Buyer for the Shares shall be Two Million Thirty Thousand Dollars ($2,030,000) (the “Purchase Price”) payable by a promissory note for cash in the form of Exhibit 1.2(a) (the “Promissory Note”) and a convertible note convertible into shares of the common stock of Buyer in the form set forth as Exhibit 1.2(b) (the “Convertible Promissory Note”), payable to each Stockholder in the manner set forth in Exhibit 1.2(c).
1.3 Intentionally Omitted.
1.4 Stockholders’ Representative.
Where is that stated
Because as you yourself mentioned yesterday, they entered into the agreement and we do not have a closing date. Once the transaction closes they will release the financials. But I am guessing you already knew that and just want to continue to cast doubt where there is none.
Alrighty than, we should be good to go!!!
Yes the operative word there is within 75 days. Auditors have been working on the financials for almost 30 days so we should hear sooner than 75 days.
Where in the heck are you getting this made up 70 days??
Ok so why isn't the SP moving!!
We are in total agreement. I continue to add to my position, I see very clearly what is developing here!!!
What exactly did I say that was wrong
Your chopice when you get in or out. Pumped, well I guess an educated guess based on what large furniture retailers do profit wise are pumps then I go with the pump!!!
Well. we already know what VYST's are correct. I doubt that the Rotman's combined the two companies to show more losses. But that's just my opinion
50+ year business doubt they will show a loss, but as Doog has pointed out the commercilization of the added business units and expanded opportunities will provide more than enough revenue and profits to drive VYST to the next level.
that's the question, but now that the acquisition has been posted if like everything shortly, I am thinking by mobths end or by the 15th of August. IMO
As I mentioned acquisition was laready baked in. That being said financials are what will drive this higher, we need the Siuper 8K and the 10k so we can really decipher what is and what is not!!
I invested for the entire enchilada so a couple of months is no biggie
We all new that the acquisition was going through already baked in. The question remains what will the financials look like once the super 8K and the 10K are posted then we will realize a bigger push up. We need the financials!!!
If you would never know why post that, it could be anybody!!!
No not an important question at all. The purpose here is to drive all facets of the combined company, not just Rotman's.
What is the average retail markup on furniture?
200-400%
Furniture Markups: 200-400% No industry manipulates the meaningless MSRP (Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price) quite like the furniture industry. Salespeople usually receive a 15-20% commission if they sell an item at the inflated MSRP.
How about those apples TENKAY. "We don'y know if Rotman's is porfitable"
Profit Margins For Furniture Retailers. According to data from The Retail Owners Institute, the gross profit margin for retail furniture stores has actually risen slightly from 43.8 percent in 2014 to 45 percent in 2018.
What's an NOL and Who Can Claim It?
NOLs occur when you have more tax deductions than taxable income. NOLs usually happen when you own or co-own a business that loses money. They can occur in businesses of all sizes, from small sole proprietorships to big corporations. If you're a sole proprietor, your business losses are always deducted on your personal tax return. If you're the owner or co-owner of a business organized as a partnership, limited liability company (LLCs), or S corporation, any losses pass through the business to you and any other owners who may deduct their share on their individual returns. If you're the shareholder in a C corporation, any losses are deducted by the corporation, not by the shareholders.
It is possible for an individual who is not a business owner to have an NOL. This can occur when a person has large casualty losses—for example, a taxpayer’s home is destroyed in a federally declared disaster and he or she had no or inadequate insurance, resulting in a large deductible casualty loss that exceeds the taxpayer's income. In such cases, the casualty loss is treated the same as a business loss. Follow the rules for non-corporate taxpayers, such as sole proprietorships.
How Do You Claim an NOL?
In the past, business owners could “carry a loss back”—that is, they could apply an NOL to past tax years by filing an application for refund or amended return. This enabled them to get a refund for all or part of the taxes they paid in past years. NOLs could generally be carried back two years. However, the TCJA eliminated carrybacks for NOLs. Starting in 2018 and continuing through 2025, an NOL may only be deducted against the current and future taxes. However, a two-year carryback continues to apply for certain losses incurred by farming businesses. Also, the old rules continue to apply to NOLs incurred before 2018.
Moreover, the TCJA permits taxpayers to deduct NOLs only up to 80% of taxable income for the year (not counting the NOL deduction). Any unused NOL amounts may be carried forward any number of future years. This means you deduct it from your future year’s taxes until you use it up. (Under prior law, which continues to apply to pre-2018 NOLs, NOLs could be carried forward no more than 20 years.)
How Much is Your NOL?
Use the information on your tax return and Form 1045, Application for Tentative Refund, to determine the size of your NOL. Be careful. The rules and formulas are complicated, and they're different for non-corporate and corporate taxpayers.
Non-Corporate Taxpayers
If you’re a non-corporate taxpayer (that is, a sole proprietor or owner of a pass-through entity such an LLC or S corporation), when you calculate your NOL you must exclude a number of deductions you may have taken on your individual tax return. For example, when calculating your NOL, you can't include:
net capital losses--the amount that your capital losses are more than your capital gains (capital gains and losses arise from the sale of capital assets, like stocks)
NOL deductions from prior years
the pass-through tax deduction, and
non-business deductions that exceed nonbusiness income, including itemized deductions or the standard deduction if you didn't itemize.
The NOL calculation does include:
itemized deductions for casualty and theft losses, and
the deduction of half of your self-employment tax.
Example: Let’s say you're the sole proprietor of a small business and you also have a part-time job. Your 2018 tax return looks like this:
Your income totals $5,500:
Wages from part-time job = $3,500
Interest income from personal savings account = $500
Net long-term capital gain on the sale of gold held for investment = $1,500
Your deductions total $21,000:
Net business losses = $7,500 (gross income $68,500 minus $76,000 in expenses)
Net short-term capital loss on sale of stock = $1,500
Standard deduction = $12,000 (you're single)
Your deductions are more than your income, so you may have an NOL. To find out, go to Form 1045, Application for Tentative Refund and take out certain items:
Non-business net short-term capital loss on sale of stock = $1,500
Non-business deductions = $10,000 (standard deduction minus non-business interest income and capital gain income, or $12,000 - $500 - $1,500)
Total = $11,500
You have an NOL of $4,000: Deductions minus Form 1045 removed items minus total income = NOL ($21,000 - $11,500 - $5,500 = $4,000). You may deduct this NOL in any number of future years until it is used up. However, your NOL may not reduce your taxable income for any future year by more than 80%.
Corporate Taxpayers
Regular C corporations generally figure and deduct an NOL the same way as non-corporate taxpayers. First check if you have an NOL. The key figure is on line 28, Form 1120, U.S. Corporation Income Tax Return. If it's negative, there may be an NOL.
The main differences between corporate and non-corporate NOLs are that corporations:
can use the deduction for dividends paid on certain preferred stock of public utilities, without limiting it to its taxable income for the year, and
can take the deduction for dividends received, without regard to the aggregate limits that normally apply.
The last difference is the most important for many corporations. Normally, a corporation can deduct dividends received from other U.S. corporations, but the deduction is limited to a total of 70% or 80% of the corporation's taxable income. However, if the corporation has an NOL, the taxable income limitation doesn't apply.
Example: In 2018, Corporation A had $500,000 of gross income from business operations and $625,000 of allowable business expenses. It also received $150,000 in dividends from a U.S. corporation for which it can take an 80% deduction, which would normally be limited to 80% of its taxable income before the deduction.
The corporation calculates its NOL as follows:
Gross income = $650,000 (business income + dividends ($500,000 + $150,00 = $650,000), minus
$625,000 deduction for expenses, minus
$120,000 deduction for dividends-received ($150,000 x 80% = $120,000).
For 2018 it has an NOL of $95,000 ($650,000 – $625,000 – $120,000 = $-95,000). It may carry forward the NOL to any number of future years to reduce its taxable income up to 80% each year until the NOL is used up.
To report NOLs, corporations use Form 1120, U.S. Corporation Income Tax Return.
Annual Dollar Limit on NOL Deduction
The TCJA limits deductions of “excess business losses” by individual business owners. Married taxpayers filing jointly may deduct no more than $500,000 per year in total business losses. Individual taxpayers may deduct no more then $250,000. If a business is owned through a multi-member LLC taxed as a partnership, partnership, or S corporation, the $250,000/$500,000 limit applies to each owners’ or members’ share of the entity’s losses. Unused losses may be deducted in any number of future years as part of the taxpayer's NOL carryforward. This limitation took effect in 2018 and is scheduled to last through 2025. It does not apply to C corporations.
So your saying that Rotman's is unprofitable? Come on man!!!!! The profits from Rotman's plus the profits from expanded business opportunities will bring the NOL's into play. There will be plenty of profits to offset with the NOL's, you scared and I get that.
I have no idea why anyone would be getting out at these levels with the first of the news now being released!!!
We have beaten the last high volume day 18m on 4/22.......let's get ready to rumble!!!
Does'nt matter. Cleared first major hurdle, let's see what the balance of the week brings
Today is a clearance day...shorts and traders getting out, tyhis thing will go higher we are on the right path. Rotman has delievered and will continue to deliver because that's how he and his family will expand their empire and profitability. At this point this is a no brainer!!!
Yep may however go up!!
Everything is new and will never be the same!!!
That's my take as well and that will lead to the share buyback....things will get interesting.
Yeah the money advanced was from the owners so what's your point!!!
Would have needed to be disclosed which it was'nt which it is'nt!!!
I hear you. I am really liking the 3 million RC line, I think that indicates that the lender has confidence in what is being built!!!
Picked up another 200K. I am in!!!!
Owned by Steve the CEO
Yes you do, they just account for it on the balance sheet. This has been discussed a million times let's move on and see what the financials say when they come out.
So a 3 million dollar revolving credit line, could that mean share buy back???? See what happens with the purchase a three million dollar RC now VYST is looking even sexier to Investment Houses. Can't wait for the next piece of news!!1
A share buy back is never a waste of cash especially when your looking to get to the NAS. Also I admit what is current, of course the market cap is accurate, but that being said it will change dramtically as other factors take shape.