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been here almost 2 years now. anyone else remember the original GifaHolding website? with all the oil, bread, hotel, farm, airplane hoopblah? still cracks me up till this day.
They preached over 24 subsidiaries with such large financials, but it seems to me they are only putting grandex, pharm company and the parent company into SEC financials. Because this was only a some grand gesture with some more hoopblah. Financials will be produced, but weak imo.
if this SOB is worth even 12 million, i will personally write a book in honor of this sad story and donate the proceeds to Kisa.
Not one new investor here today. 50 day MA about to cross below 200 day MA.
Probably gonna happen before the end of March.
I'm guessing once that happens we land between .042-.0475.
Usually when this thing tanks we coincidentally get news. Maybe financials will come out to save this thing, who knows... If we get another PR without financials this thing will crank way below the 4s.
Even if we do get financials and we hit dollars every single share of the public float will be offloaded. Longs want off this vessel as soon as possible. I doubt we will get investors to accumulate all of the type of cash people expect out of this thing.
The end of this road is bleak. Wish i could be excited as i was November 2017.
These are the facts of the day.
Tweet by Gifa Holding after Grandex acquisition.
""The Chairman of the Board of directors Yusuf Short, "in 2019, we intend to provide a credit-granting service after signing with the licensed company in international lending""
sounds like grandex never had money lending prior to the acquisition. FAKE BILLIONS
I havent seen this amount of volume in forever. I'm really impressed here guys. At this rate it would take 5 full years for the whole float to be bought up :) Lets do the math together.
Today's volume: 36,250 shares traded
Public Float: 47,544,064
# of trading days in a year: 252
(Float/Volume)= X
X/TradingDays = 5.2 years
These are the facts. Another PR without financials will crumble GIFX.
I smell bloody bags
still waiting on a response. Thank you kindly:
Is it a coincidence that the publisher of GIFA Holding's website is the same publisher of Grandex's website? Prior to the acquisition.
Why does Grandex have the title "Disbandment Due to Completion of Voluntary Settlement as of 05/11/2010" on Cyprus's Ministry business entity website?
Why has Yenis Baki's taken down all news related to GIFA's amounts of loans brokered in the past several years?
Why does Gifa Airways proclaim they have over 60 aircraft in their flight when it is a proven fact that they do NOT.
Will the SEC really allow a company that does billions of dollars in loans to Iranians when it is illegal for such business to be operated with IRAN here in the united states?
Answer these questions and tell me this doesnt scream scam.
Is it a coincidence that the publisher of GIFA Holding's website the same publisher of Grandex's website? Prior to the acquisition.
Why does Grandex have the title "Disbandment Due to Completion of Voluntary Settlement as of 05/11/2010" on Cyprus's Ministry business entity website?
Why has the Yenis Baki's website been taken down? Doesn't the people of TRNC rely on their news?
Why does Gifa Airways proclaim they have over 60 aircraft in their flight when it is a proven fact that they do NOT.
Will the SEC really allow a company that brokers billions of supposed dollars in loans to Iranians when it is illegal for such business to be operated with IRAN here in the united states?
Also what was the point of the PR? They did not need to mention anything at all until financials would be released. The Stock would have been better off without it. Would you not agree?
Although there could be truth to what you say, what do you make of GIFA Holding boasting on Yenis Bakis, but in turn say nothing of the fact in a PR
The question is answered. GIFA pumped their stock through a newspaper owned by themselves unfiltered...Bill Aul probably got wind of this any stopped them dead in their tracks or the SEC did. This company is labeled CE for a reason. False promotion of the company. Not to mention Yenis Bakis's website no longer exists.
PR is meager, non assuming and does not pump because they are saving their asses. When financials come out and this company ends up being worth absolutely nothing, the company wont have any ramifications for such promises and financials that they say they have in Yenis Bakis.
Yenis Bakis is not real DD and is not reliable information at all. By them announcing such language in a meager PR is more of the truth than any other so called DD than we all have. If you dont see the warning signs you will be holding the bag.
"We anticipate moving with caution"
"no guarantee"
"we cannot be certain that any acquisition by the Company will be made.”
"do not currently qualify for any listing"
"no guarantee that our common stock will qualify for any stock exchange listing at any time in the foreseeable future.”
"limited financial and managerial resources"
They say this to save themselves
You are married to the stock. Think about all of the possibilities, The risk is a lot higher than the reward. The facts point south from here
So what you're saying is that they haven't pumped anything about GIFA at all?
Yenis Bakis is a public newspaper (if what we know.. is true about them)...
So anything they publish should be fact based, correct? It should be public information about anything they publish including everything about GIFA they have EVER mentioned. 75 billion in brokered loans is obviously a lie an exaggeration of the truth and all things beyond what this company is worth.
Their pump-o-matic PR's were in their publishing with YENIS Bakis
Is it a coincidence all the information we know about GIFA Holding is through Yenis Bakis and the site is not longer available? Tell me if that inst logical.
I'll continue...
Is it a coincidence that the publisher of GIFA Holding's website is also the publisher of Grandex's website? Did you know Grandex has the status of "Disbandment Due to Completion of Voluntary Settlement as of 05/11/2010"... meaning this company hasnt operated since 2010... lol interesting.
DO you want More?
tick tock... No financials again. I find it surprising that Yenis Bakis produced an article about pharma, removed the article then released a PR the following day. Strong. but weird thoughts about that one...
Tomorrow would be a perfect day to drop financials... but we live in a gifa dream. Regardless of how the company's valuation through their financials turns out, ill be happy to rump right on off this boat like everyone else that is going to sell off. This has taken way too long....
Also the 100 million shares could be the culprit used to acquire all of these recent acquisitions. What the hell does GIFA know about Pharma?
please tell me this wont turn into another Cannabis Stock in the "foreseeable" future. Give me a break
GIFX reported that they are an EMC (Emerging Growth Company) on their year ended 2016 financials.
Emerging growth companies are required
-to provide audited financial statements for two fiscal years, in contrast Thought this was the most interesting part of an EMC... GIFX aligns perfectly seeing that 2017 & 2018 financials are still due. meaning they are soon to be released. Gifa is following SEC rules, not the rules of the infested OTC-land. They are just beginning their journey and has been in the works for 2 years now.
The fact that GIFA is reporting as an EMC is significant. Not to mention they have good ole Aul... who was their legal adviser but is now a part of the company. I have honestly never seen anything like that on the OTC market. Why would a man with such a stellar career get involved around these neck of the woods?
Also they paid $24k for the 2016 financials. Nobody in their right mind would just pay $24,000 just to post financials unless they are planning something big.
I have never doubted GIFA as being a real deal company. I have only been stand-offish about the following:
-The CE imposed by the OTC Markets
-The possibility that 2017 & 2018 financials are horrific and show no market value or the possibility of reaching beyond the 52 wk high.
-Only value we know of GIFA is through Yeni Bakis... Owned by KISA himself. Definitely could be fluffed in their articles about GIFA.
-The 100 million common shares that are probably going to be given to financial institutions after the financials are released... if this company shows significant value within the documents.
-AUL being vague with emails and not giving anything informational or helpful so if this thing does turn sour, nobody is held accountable for what is possible to hurt all of us.
-Websites look good, but dont necessarily have all their bugs kinked out. Billion dollar company but have multiple 75% completed websites?
Just thinking out loud people. These are my concerns, perspectives and opinions. Hoping for the best, but i dont trust anyone...Dont crucify me
anyone know How much financials will cost to convert currency, audit and post to sec?
This makes me feel better. Thanks
Grandex finance ltd website was made by http://atabilisim.pro/
the same website designer who made ALL of Gifa holding's subs websites...
Coincidence? i think not. This is only my opinion, but maybe Gifa has always owned Grandex... Maybe Grandex was always Gifa's financial lending business. Why? so they can put grandex into thier financials to show some sort of revenue generating value. It only makes sense..Yusuf Kisa owns Yenis Bakis. Im thinking they fluffed their actual worth by deceiving articles through Yeni...
have we been duped into thinking gifa is a multi billion dollar company? Probably, but we will never know until we get those fins.
Kinda nervous kinda excited. Hoping for the best.
Im only presenting my thoughts on all of this. Real concerns and different perspectives people
Ercan International Airport (ECN) is the only airport in Northern Cyprus. It's sometimes referred to as Lefkosa (Nicosia) Airport.
http://www.cypnet.co.uk/ncyprus/city/nicosia/ercan/
They only have 2 airlines operating at ECN... none of which are gifa related
in order to have a commercial betting license in northern cyprus... you need to have a license from the NBA (national betting authority)
As of 2019 GIFA does not or has not applied for their license. Seems fishy to me...
https://nba.gov.cy/en/regulated-entities/registers/class-a/#toggle-id-2
Gifaland... 100,000 square meters or 24 acres...
thats roughly the size of the white house's lawn. very small amusement park if you ask me
https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/gifaholding.com
gifa holding... hardly any traffic to this multi billion dollar company... ya right. scam
gifa air lease... multi billion dollar business... but doesnt have any traffic to their website... ya right... scam
https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/gifaairlease.com
post the tax records. I will debunk them
you cant believe everything you read on the internet, but one thing is true. GIFX stock... whatever the hell this company is or has on paper it will be put into their financials.
They obviously have some sort of money/revenues because they just took over a publicly traded company. They built a 12 million dollar home base headquarter.They just bought out a payday loans business and of the sorts are probably paying William Aul a decent penny for dabbling in the mix of all of this. Not to mention their payroll is at least 3.4 million a year for their employees. With that in mind id say at the least we are sitting on a 22 million dollar company. which is less than the market cap now.
What is strange to me is the daily volume traded and the micro public float for gifx. The daily volume never surpasses 350k unless its a PR day. Which then maybe 1.5 million at most... Soooo where the hell is the other 45 million shares?
If this goes big, will it all be ruined because two or three people will dump their massive stock pile of common shares?
For now, the people who have 10+ million shares are holding for something and keeping this puppy at 7-15 cents by not dumping.
List of officers due 4/30/2019. This is a remittance of the list last year, which is obvious. Hoping financials are submitted too. Or another disappointment
List of officers per nevada business entity due 04/30/18.
Hopefully we get financials when they remit officer list at this time.
If not, this is a total disappointment. Two years too late.
keep in mind "WE ARE A SMALL COMPANY"... per pr
GIFA Holding LTD sold 30% of their shares in 2016 worth $700 million.
$1.63 billion dollars worth of company shares are left after the transaction.
Also gifa has 137-300 employees getting paid $1130 dollars a week.
= at least 8.4 million dollars + the 12 million dollar gifa building.
This is a great buying point and im hoping GIFA is a very very very undervalued company.
Hoping real news, with real valuation numbers come in the near future
Check it out...
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=tr&u=https://www.oncevatan.com.tr/guncel/gifa-holdingden-700-milyon-dolarlik-dev-hamle-h92413.html&prev=search
Stressed Aul will not release financials.
"We are a small company and we are subject to all of the risks and uncertainties of an early-stage business enterprise."
Small company? what about the 75 billion in loans?
Will this merger have all of gifa's assets? I'm leaning towards a NO
how long did it take for fusz get to that point
How Uplisting Stocks Work???....
Found this awesome video about companies essentially taking a shell, reverse merging into the shell and the process and headaches that entail such. The men speaking are the best professionals in the game of such processes.
It is a long video so skip the nonsense at around 5:00 minutes.
The video comments on the exact scenario GIFX is most likely going through. The cost, the time and what is most likely going on behind the curtain of this shell.
I found it interesting and highly informative. Hope this helps.
Get EDUCATED
Check out the people who are connected with GIFa Holding on LinkedIn.com
all CEO's and mega successful entrepreneurs. Interesting to say the least
"With the edgarization of its financials"
"EDGARization is the process of converting parent documents - MS Word, MS Excel, PDF, Word Perfect, etc - into acceptable SEC EDGAR ASCII or HTML format. Once EDGARized, the documents can be submitted to the SEC via the EDGAR system." GIFX's financials are ready to go imo! This means financials are completed people. They just need a reformat to align with US SEC standards. This is an International company. no wonder it has taken so long to even produce such documents. I still think towards the end of November is when we will get our GIFX hay day. As for the PPS it will probably rise till we get to that point.
Also i have been thinking about this for awhile now and hope someone may have a different perspective about this. Back in May, from scotland yard news, a article was written that Gifa extends its services to a new country, india. I was thinking that our company GIFA.... instead of divesting FIREFISH out of the shell. I think KISA wants to keep firefish and keep the existing business but start financial services within the existing company. This is probably to fluff up the company and create a larger valuation at the end of the day. Also the negotiations mentioned in the September press release could be pertaining to this matter. I have emailed Aul several times since then to clarify this information. These NEGOTIATIONS were being conducted in this 2018 year. Not being correlated to the financials posted in the summer. CONCURRENT to this year. Negotiations must be over and its almost time for this to explode again imo. Any thoughts on the matter or suggestions?
http://www.scotlandyardnews.com/gifa-finance-extends-its-financial-services-to-indian-companies/2711/
Also if i were to evaluate the company id evaluate them based the amount of taxes GIFA randomly was subject to pay way back when. which was..
$ 111,583,000 million TL
Corporate tax is 12.5% in northern cyprus...
111.583 million TL / Divided by .125 tax ==== 892.664 miilion TL
convert to USD that would = $ 160,701,836.60 USD
160,701,836.60 dollars / 160,900,000 shares = $ .9987 share price.
Obviously its hard to evaluate a company without posted facts and financials, but regardless GIFX is extremely undervalued. I'm holding till the end of the Year.
Corproate action flag removed! This is huge people. Meaning the merger is complete. Financials soon!
sell your shares to me. buying another 96K
Charts...MACD positive crossover. Big gap tomorrow
HUGE discount today only
news tomorrow EOD
No manipulation! Zero dilution... A low float standing over a couple rockets to the moon here.
Get your tickets while you still can
first PR released in years just happened... exactly one year after leadership change etc...
(September 25 2017- September 25 2018)
as mentioned by someone earlier... October 17th 2017 was note worthy and changed this stock forever... lets see if this date has any significance tomorrow.
I think we will have some updates by the END OF THE WEEK imo
If GIFA holding does more than 18 billion in money financing. I dont think they will have an issue showing 40 million in revenue on their financials...
I think the issue right now is converting their financial statements to USD and meeting regulatory requirements under SEC giidelines. Its no easy task and on top of all of that and auditor needs to come in and review all of them. This is easier said then done imo.
The real question is... financials or ticker symbol first? Id like to see financials so we can better assess this GIFA holding
September 25 2017 - September 25 2018
A Seasoning Period:
The RMC must complete a one-year seasoning period from the time of entering into the reverse merger. During this period, the RMC must trade on the U.S. over-the-counter market, or on another regulated U.S. or foreign exchange.
http://www.marcumllp.com/insights-news/sec-approves-tougher-rules-for-reverse-merger-companies