Thanks

Happy Holidays everyone

Chrisbaskett,

Would you mind posting your progress list for DNAG again.

Team, Gcbr, USMC,Chiggah, Sandoz, Colud, Ann, and others

Thank you. You have all IMO posted many informative posts concerning DNAG as the mumbers of posters increased in the last few weeks.
The information has been helpful to me. Nice to see DNAG discussed on this board.

Wish we could see these kinds of posts all the time. A logical conversation about the merits, failings, future potential and the science of DNAG would be useful to all.

Not so easy with all the paid bashers to have a real discussion. All the useless arguments, diversions, predictions, insults, and OT useless stupid posts, ........seem designed to keep any real dialogue from happening.

Just a thought.
The bashers disappear when the stock Rises. A prolonged rise in the share price might give us an opportunity to make this boaed relevant. Perhaps it could change the nature of this board to talk abot DNAG in all it's aspects.
Between those listed above you have a great knowledge of DNAG from many perspectives, Just thought you might want to give it a try.

Luck to longs

Please remove my last post 53695. and this one Thank you

OT fud


Anotherday,

That was extremely disingenuous and evasive of you. If you are unable to intellectually and objectively address each of the valid points raised in my post to you, then simply admit it. It was cowardly of you to hide behind chiggah's skirt as your chosen spokesman in order to avoid the serious issues under consideration. LOL!


Fine. No hiding here. chiggah hit the nail on the head. Didn’t need to say more.

But... To intellectually and objectively address each of the valid points raised in your post , Oh my that should be hard. LOL




You said
”Shame on you! The good moderators, with the possible exception of one, have been doing an exemplary job of monitoring and controlling the content of this fine board. In fact, I am contemplating purchasing a premium membership and hope to rally support for my participation as a future moderator. Can I rely on your support for this important job?”

I just posted that the moderators are not doing their jobs, with the exception of one. Dr. Dew. I assume he is the one you don’t like. He has thrown out a few bashers. Good for him.
I too am thinking of purchasinga premium script, just so posts like these don't have to take up space here.
YOU a moderator.LMAO. Perhaps Frog could use another on his basher board.




”That other board you referred to, which shall remain unnamed to comply with the antispamming rule of this board, appears close to belly-up since the last pumping post there was issued way back on November 28, 2006. There is yet another such pumping board, which shall also remain unnamed but has been affectionally referred to as "nappy", appears to have died on the vine for lack of participation.”

Mentioning another board is not spamming!
There have been 28 posts since the 27th. Learn to count..
ALL ON TOPIC and that is the point.

”It seems the only DNAG board with any vitality is this fine board. Witness all the pumpers fleeing from the other boards and joining us here. They are all welcome! Everyone is welcome, provided they comply with the TOS of this fine board.”

Again I don’t think this is a fine board JMHO from the facts, too many bashers and pumpers.



”You must know by now that no board can survive if all the participants continue to pat each other on the back, give each other a knowing wink, and assure themselves that all is well with an investment which has degenerated to a supenny pps with no real hope in sight. There must be opposing opinions which foster original thought and excitement, and impart vitality to a discussion forum. IMO, a message board cannot survive without this important requirement.”

I certainly do know that patting each others shoulders is a easte of time. Like I said, I don’t have any use for PUMPERS any more than I have for your bashing..
Personally I see lots of hope for DNAG but thats JMO and I state it as such. You post your opinions as facts. They are not.

”If any poster or post offends you, simply ignore that poster or post and read only the glowing pumping posts. That is your choice. Do not complain your finger hurts because you refuse to stop putting it into the fire. If you continue to respond to those posts which you find offensive, then you have only proven my point about what a good message board is all about. “

Ignoring posters does not make them go away.
Again I have no use for pumpers or bashers, I can read them but still ignore them. But the only way folks like you get away with nonsence like your post to me is if I ignore you.
Yes I do find your posts offensive bashing. It does not prove your point though. Both your post to me and my are useless to this board and do not make for a “good message board.” It’s total ......
That’s why I put the OT.



Sorry pennyking, Fud is just to much fun to make fun of. He says such silly things. But you are right. I will try to ignore his next taunt.


Luck to longs.

OT chiggah

Your post to FUD saves me the touble of replying to his rant and rave. Thanks




Luck to longs

OT Fud,

If posters were TOS'd for violations here; you, stockboy and frog would no longer be here and I would not have posted about investorvillage.

Luck to longs

New board posters,

Welcome

Just wanted to let you know. Investor Village is a good site for reviewing news about DNAG. The bashers and pumpers are kept out.
Investorshub has some good posters but with the likes of frogdreaming, stockboy and fud you have to read a lot of posts to find anything useful.
JMO

Frogdreaming hosts his own DNAG site. No one there. No need to ask why if you have read his posts. LOL
again JMO

Luck to longs

OT stockboy,

You say
“Hell after the reverse split all I could do was hold and wait and wait for nothing to happen!”

That’s like saying you had no choice. They are your shares.

What could you do if you believed that your stock was going from .16 to .0001?
The answer is obvious. Sell your shares. If you really believed that the stock would go from .16 to .0001 then sell.

What kind of investment strategy is it to just wait for your shares to lose value if that is what you believe.
Whatever you got would be 16,000 time more than you will have at .0001.
Obviously a writeoff will be far less benefit than what you lose in share value.

So my point was, you still hold your shares.

I find it hard to believe your story i guess, but everyone has their own investment style. I just don’t see how yours works.

What’s your theory on holding what you believe is a company that you have bashed before the R/S and still continue to bash. A company about which you made the above predictions.
A company in

“quite dreadful financial situation that anyone who reads them (DNAG reports) would not walk away, but run as fast as they can”

You did not run and are not running, you have held and do hold shares (you say).
What kept/keeps you invested?




Luck to longs

Stockboy,

You say, your predictions are 99% accurate. You predicted that this stock would go from the R/S price to sub penny.

BUT you held your shares!

You still hold them and don’t plan to sell until March 2007? even though you predict the price will be .0001 by then.

For all you bragging you did not take your own advice. Bash all you want but your actions speak for themselves.
You held your shares! You hold your shares!

For someone who claims to know so much about the future of DNAG, that seems like a pretty bad move. Didn’t you believe your own predictions?

"It's too bad most people can't admit their failure's."
as you say. LMAO

Luck to longs

To all


Happy Thanksgiving

OT Stockboy,

“I might even add like a bucks worth! LOL nah that'd be like throwing good money after bad”


Good idea boy, don’t spend your whole basher check in one place. LOL

OT Chiggah,

“When are you people going to call Stockboy and Frudaky what they really are. They are a paid basher tag-team”

Glad too, Stockboy and Frudaky are a paid basher tag-team. But don’t forget frog.

The alternative is to believe that these people, who claim to have large stakes in DNAG are here day after day trying to convince investors that their stock is not worth investing in.

Most everyone here knows it, they just get tired of saying so. IMO You would have to post dozens of messages a day to keep up with all their bashing.
Also until the price goes up a bit the stock IS depressing. DNAG has given them ammunition to bash with. (of course bashers are responsible in part for that low share price).

What really bothers me is that the bashers agenda is so blatant. Anyone who has been here a long time knows what they are. But new investors just passing through don’t know yet.

So if you are a new investor, consider this.

First: Not all negative posts here are from bashers, DNAG has been a rough ride for years. Many of us have lost money. Do your own DD.

As to the above mentioned posters…

100% of their posts are negative to DNAG. (They did not post positive messages even when they first invested). (These posters, who cannot, even for a day, resist the impulse to post multipul dashing messages, did not post a single positive message after they bought.) Frog will occasionally post something that sounds positive but in following posts twists his message, to his “theory”, that DNAG officers are bilking us out of our investment.

They try to dissuade investors from investing. Thereby keeping the share price down. (Trying to keep the SHARE PRICE DOWN on a stock they own. Which of course helps keeps their stock down more. Yet they will not sell. Yea Right! That’s believable.)


No matter how bad they put down the stock, no matter how glum they paint the future, they hold on to DNAG.
Do they really believe that it is a good idea to hold shares of any stock that they believe will only go down in share price? Perhaps they missed investing 101.

If you believe that they are not bashers, you must admit, they would have to be morons.

To hold onto a stock when you think it has no future. To hold onto a stock that you believe will not make a profit but only lose what is left of your money.
And further bash that stock every day, thereby reducing your chances that it ever can have a larger share price. IMHO that spells moron.


Their argument to these statements usually is that they don’t believe that anyone pays attention to the boards or their posts. But of course if they believed that they would not spend day in and out posting their bowl sht.
Would they really spend all that time posting if they believed it made no difference at all? Don’t think so. IMO

Manipulation of share price, for whatever reason. Personal investment, paid basher, rival Pharm. or genomic company, pissed off former employee? Who cares, if it walks like a duck……..

Luck to longs

I have just looked at stockquotes, yahoo and barchart. all three show a buy at 8 cents, on their charts.
Did someone make a mistake on their buy price?


LOL

OT



I just looked at the Yahoo Finance Board. The one day view for DNAG show a 4 Billion share trade at the end of the day.
LOL Wouldn't that be nice.


Luck to longs

Frog


“Don't you just love it?”

”Everyone coming out of the woodwork to respond, but not to argue the points or discuss the issues,

Frog you have belabored your theory over and over here. It is not a discussion of DNAG issues. Frog issues maybe, .

The reason no one wants to “discuss” your post and points, is that you have made it dozens of times here and discussed it dozens of times.

Without anyone falling for it. But keep it up, say something enough times and someone will believe you. Perhaps no sane person, but someone.

I do want to say thanks for putting it out there so quickly this time. You usually make posters reply to you for weeks on end, leading and misleading, before you make your redundant point.


Luck to longs

Apologies


to anyone who misinterpreted my post.
I thought it would be obvious to all here that, as Frog says,

Gene sequencing and genotype throughput are completely different things.

I do not intend to say otherwise. As Frog says, DNAG did not answer the question.

Just posting their reply, but still looking for the answer.

DNAG’s reply is certainly not misleading, as Frog implies of everything DNAG does. Just facts from someone trying to help at DNAG.

MY post, upon reflection, may have been misleading.

I posted …“Thought I would go right to the horses mouth and get the answers to this long argued question.”
This was supposed to be a joke, (as they did not answer the question) I should have put a LOL after this statement..

My reason for posting this reply at all is that I (personally) am vary impressed with the equipment they DO have. I did not realize (perhaps you did) that they had 3 Beckman Coulter SNPstream’s now.


Again sorry to all, I did not mean to mislead or give Frog ammunition for bashing our stock. Again


Luck to longs

Bag8ger,

I sent the question to investor relations DNAG

Luck to longs

From Biometrics e-Symposium



DNAPrint Genomics Upgrades Genotyping Platform

SARASOTA, Fla. - DNAPrint genomics, Inc. (OTCBB: DNAG) today announced an upgrade in the throughput and cost efficiency of its automated Beckman Coulter GenomeLab SNPstream genotyping platform.

Beckman Coulter (NYSE: BEC), which manufactures laboratory instrument systems for diagnostic tests and biological research, upgraded DNAPrint’s SNPstream Ultra High Throughput (UHT) instrument from 12-plex to 48-plex capability, allowing for an approximate four-fold increase in throughput, or the rate at which it can read DNA sequences


Luck to longs

To whom it may concern,

Thought I would go right to the horses mouth and get the answers to this long argued question.

I E-Mailed FNAG with the following question,

"Could you please answer a question.
How many bases an hour are you able to sequence with your current equipment?"

The answer I recieved was .....


Thanks for your question.

We have the following equipment:

3 Beckman Coulter SNPstream™
1 Illumina GoldenGate™

With this equipment we can do significant amount of genotyping throughput.


Karen Surplus
DNAPrint Genomics, Inc.
Chief Financial Officer
941-366-3400 X227
727-709-1408 cell
813-435-2230 e-fax


GenomeLab SNPstream® Genotyping System Perform 4600 to over 3 Million genotypes per day
(According to their website) DNAG uses 3

Luck to longs

Frog,

The reason you are hated here, IMO, is becouse of the way you twist peoples words like you did/do.

Always moving, after many roundabout statements, to your one goal.

To state that DNAG is in business to take shareholder money. LOL

So you can save it, I know your agenda already and do not intend to sell.

By the way, how's your DNAG site doing. Lots of posters heh?
IMO you can count the number of posters and you get the # of people that want to listen to your nonsense. LMAO

Luck to longs

Frog says,

"Can we also assume from your silence that you now understand that the 1 million bases a week quote had nothing to do with actually mapping the genome, but was in fact referring to their 're-sequencing' efforts?"

NO, And read again, I did not state that DNAG is "mapping the genome." Those are your words. I posted a DNAG press release. It said that they are "SEQUENCING 1,000,000 bases of DNA per week" Not mapping the genome. Not the same thing.

I have heard all your arguements before here. Many times. You and I have had that comversation before. You have had this conversation with many. Go back and look.

What you CAN assume is that...
You have stated that you HOPE this stock fails
That you do not own shares in DNAG
That you have been bashing this stock for many many months
That you have an agenda here to hurt this stock and therefore...
That I would not take your word for ANYTHING concerning DNAG.

Luck to longs

ALL of course IMO

Frog,


Here's a hint. Just because you believe nothing DNAG tells you....even the possible stuff.....don't think that everyone is equally as gullible.


Luck to longs

I did not prove your point,


Dnag says,

"At present, we are SEQUENCING 1,000,000 bases of DNA per week"

Not 208 days
Not re-sequencing

Let me guess, you are once again trying to prove that DNAG is falsifying information in every thing they do. That they are a scam. Been there heard that from you many times. Did not believe you then or now.

If you have lost money on this stock and you believe they are a scam, that they falsify information, sue them. If you REALLY believe you could prove you statements in a court of law, I say you would have a good case. Go for it, that's the way to PROVE you beileve what you say.

But you have made these statements here many times, without convincing anyone.


Luck to longs

Frog,

read it again,

"At present, we are SEQUENCING 1,000,000 bases of DNA per week."


Per week, not 208 days
and sequencing not re-sequencing

Dr Dew,


I see frogs still at it. post 51134

".........they have nothing to do with new or innovative methods of sequencing DNA!!! They do ALL of their work on previously sequenced information. Previously sequenced by OTHERS."



from 2001 dnag release,

At present, we are SEQUENCING 1,000,000 bases of DNA per week. This rate of SEQUENCING has allowed us to discover about 1 NOVEL quality validated SNP for every 200 bases of target sequence in the human genome. This rate of discovery is greater than that which others have reported in the scientific literature. In contrast to maps present in public resources, the proprietary SNP maps the company is building span the entire length of each target gene. Relatively few of the SNPs comprising these maps are present in public genome database resources. In addition, analysis conducted to date have validated these SNPs (as real polymorphisms) at a significantly higher rate than those taken or mined from public database resources. The Company attributes these desirable outcomes to its implementation of UNIQUE vertical re-sequencing protocols and proprietary software platform (the patent pending SniPdoc(TM) system) for raw SNP discovery. The proprietary Snipdoc(TM) system enables the Company to find, store and qualify markers that may be linked to a patient's response to specific drugs.

RobertG,

Welcome to the board. Good luck to you on your investment.

My own opinion is that you have the right idea, check back in 6 months but keep up on the DD.

I have been here for years. Lost some money (that I could afford) but still see Potential!
Only time will tell.

Could not begin to tell you why people who hate DNAG do not move on but instead sit here day after day bashing. No lives I would guess.

The only funny thing is that the bashers claim to hold shares. Most say they do.
What a hoot, holding shares of a stock you hate and bashing it every day.

good luck to longs.

Ann,
Thanks for the find. Who knows, perhaps this will put DNAG on the radar of some of the larger investors. Ones that can afford such reports. Anyway thanks for the efforts, as always.


Luck to longs

Ann,

Sad but true IMO

Virgil,

Ann's post 49061 would seem to be useful in your discussions with froggy.


The Company's first theranostic product is PT-401, a "Super EPO" ...... Preclinical and clinical development of ALL the Company's drug candidates will benefit from simulated pre-trials to design actual trials better and are targeted to patients with genetic profiles indicating their propensity to have the best clinical responses.


and

DNAPrint Pharmaceuticals is developing "theranostic" genetic test/drug combinations designed to improve a drug's efficacy and reduce potential side effects. "Our genetic ancestry panel will help identify patient population groups most susceptible to the drug's potential toxic side effects," Mr. Gabriel said. "We believe our genetic ancestry technology offers a distinct, competitive advantage in its application to pharmaceutical development and theranostics. This is where Dr. Frudakis' and our scientific team's work on understanding genetic ancestry will really pay off."

DNAPrint Genomics is utilizing its EPOFusion(TM) model to simulate the cellular and molecular dynamics influenced by the administration of the Erythropoietin class of protein drugs in anemia treatments. EPOFusion(TM) models the interaction of PT-401 -- a novel 2-copy (dimer) form of Erythropoietin -- with the cells that trigger the production of new red blood cells. EPOFusion(TM) can be manipulated to test hundreds of conditions and variables by simulating what occurs in the whole blood cell production process. The EPOFusion(TM) model has already identified important differences between PT-401 and currently marketed drugs or drugs in development by other companies. This type of information may provide a competitive advantage and is critical for transparent regulatory filings and effective physician education upon FDA approval of a drug for clinical testing.

Luck to longs

retired investor,


I need to confirm it with Team butit looks like you made
The post of the day
Well said and good point

Newshour,

FYI, Don't mean to make a big deal of it. DNAG was not mentioned by name and the piece was not all positive, they pointed out the failings of the science as well.

The DNAG logo was only on the screen for about a second.
The Family Tree logo with whom we sell our products was also flashed. I think there were about 5 in all.
Still publicity for the field will be good for us and perhaps some people will notice the reference to the work DNAG does and be drawn to our site.

Also, They said that there were only 2 types of tests available to consumers. I was thinking that DNAG's product qualified as a third, as it uses different methods. I may be way off here. Any thoughts Bag8ger, Virgil?

Luck to longs

PBS Newshour

Did anyone else see the DNAG logo and name flash on the PBS Newshour segment on ancestry. Although they did not mention DNAG by name they did refer to tests being able to tell if someone was Sub-Saharan African or Asian. Which they suggested was possible while at the same time saying that other tests (Y chromosome etc.) test were unreliable.

Virgil,

Fair cop. So many zeros, my fingers got carried away. LOL

Virgil Hilts,

thanks, I'm sure you are right. Todays PR clearly is about depression. 700 Billion market. I can live with that.
Adding to our credibility (concerning ability) also.

Luck top longs

Today’s PR

I was just looking at the Khandaker Partners report of Nov. 4 2005. I noticed that PT-502 was for drug treatment of drug addiction while PT 503 was for treatment of depression.
Today’s PR refers to PT-502 for depression.

There’s a big difference. PT-502 has a $500,000,000 market while the PT-503 for depression has a market of $700,000,000,000 .
I don’t see PT-502 or 3 on DNAG’s website under pipeline.

Can any one clarify.

Luck to longs

A day in the life,

Awaking to another dismal, depressing day, he dragged himself off the lumpy, cruel bed and into the painful glair of the bathroom where he brushed his teeth. The brush digging into his tender gums painfully, a tragic disaster for his poor mouth.

Heading to work he notices all the long suffering citizens of his town as they do there dance of death. Weaving their cars dangerously back and fourth between lanes, barely able to survive their unpleasant drive to work. Oh those poor people he laments as he escapes death on the road once again and pull into his parking space.

Upon arriving at his disappointing office door he looks worriedly at the door handle. Disgust overcomes his features. The handle is dirty.
Unpleasant, painful feelings overwhelm him as he reaches down with a worried, frightened feeling and turns the knob with fear. He enters his trash heap of an office to begin the day. Hoping to survive.

There is a memo on the desk. "OH what dire straights are these" he thinks, a memo first thing in the morning. With a fearful, chagrined, desperate feeling he lifts the memo.

Oh NO, how could this be, it must be the end, how could he stand it, There would be no donuts this week in the coffee room.
It is so cruel, so vicious, disheartening. I truely am long suffering, he thinks. Why me?

But he KNEW, EVERYONE suffers. ALWAYS!

Those were the facts and he had to live with them. So did everyone he knew for he told them regularly.

“You are suffering,” he would tell everyone he knew.
“No were not,” many would say.

How could they not understand! He told them 20 time a day. Can’t they hear? How many times do I have to tell someone they are suffering before they understand they are suffering? What are they stupid?

But he was right all along. They were suffering.
Well not everyone, some had him on ignore.

Dr Fru says,

There is really no need for you to react emotionally and make scurrilous assumptions about me on a personal level. The only whining I am aware of appears to be originating from you over what I have posted.



Fru I am glad you do not act emotionally, scurrilous, or whining when you state how,

“miserable, depressed, dreading, desperate, chagrined, worried, woeful, dismal, frightened, negative, quite concerned, sincerely concerned." and "fearful” you are.

As you deal with the

“tragic disaster, long suffering, very painful, unpleasant, disappointing,”

Stock
You are

“trying to survive, “

In this

“dance of death,”

For a

“trash heap”,

Where you find yourself in

“extremely dire straits “


Hope you one day "survive" your " dance of death" so that you can lose your "miserable, depressed, dreading, desperate, chagrined, worried, woeful, dismal, frightened, negative, quite concerned, sincerely concerned." and "fearful” feelings.

Your unemotional, "only the facts" posts are an inspiration to us all.

LOL

bag8ger,

You hit the mail on the head with that observation. Fru has the most simplistic view of the stock market I have ever seen. LOL

Iwant2be,



Just curious about your statement, I have seen it used many times here.

You said, “I've been taking the heat for six years and I'm not going anywhere because what do we have to lose”.

The answer seems obvious to me. But I have seen this statement so many times I wonder what I am missing so thought you might help me.

From my point of view, it seems that what you have to lose is whatever money you still have left in DNAG (however little).
What you have to gain is the money you could make if you put what’s left in an investment that you have faith in.
Leaving your money in an investment you describe as “It's a no win situation unless” make no sense to me.


I too have had my shares turned from 500,000 to 25,000 in the split. Then bought more. But I am here because I still think this pig has a good chance to fly. If I did not, I would sell in a heartbeat and look for a better investment for my remaining funds. IMO
If I have an investment that is going down and I expect it to continue to go down, I sell regardless of the loss. Staying will only make my losses greater. I doesn’t matter if I have lost 5 dollars or 50,000. If I can save even 50 for the next investment, well that’s 50. Better than 0. IMO

Not trying to argue with you, I just never understood the investment strategy you are using.


Luck to longs