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According to Pacer Trial has been set for 1/27/25 crazy how long this took to go to trial. Not sure where the trial is but will post maybe we can get 30 investors that got taken to be in the court room.
At this stage it doesn’t really matter. Investor is putting in cash and hiring experts in the industry to validate and improve upon formulas and processes.
JB has moved on and is looking for his
next scam. Going into 2024 I think we should move on as a group. The only thing keeping JB relevant is us chatting about him.
It's been over for a while my friends just wished you could of seen through the BS from the get go. The Boss Consulting Trial begins in June 2024 and will validate JB character as a scammer or Ponzi Master. JB brother is working with a former investor to try and replicate Kryron in a new and improved form. As of now ballistically it's not performing how they'd hope. Hope everyone here has a great holiday and good luck with your future endeavors.
Trial should start with Boss Consulting on July 13, 2023 Woop Woop
Looks like Phoenix was getting to Hot for JB running to Canada won't keep him out of jail
Address: 85 Industrial Dr, Saint John, NB E2R 1A4, Canada
Hours:
Closed · Opens 7:30?AM Fri
Phone: +1 506-633-7740
Province: New Brunswick
Rumor has it JB is involved with this?
https://armorforgeus.com/
I'm not sure why no due diligence was done on JB or CJ during the initial stages of this transaction. A quick google search would on either one would of shown the lack of character and the fraud associated with them from past dealings. It wasn't like this was for a few thousand dollars this was for millions. I'll keep you updated as the case moves along it's a great read for sure.
BACKGROUND FACTS
24. In April 2020, Plaintiff was authorized by the State of
Arkansas/University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences (UAMS) to act as its
representative to acquire certain personal protective equipment, namely 3M
Company produced masks in quantities of one and two million.
25. Plaintiff Boss sought the assistance of Defendant McKown and/or
Defendant McKown P.A. and the escrow services of Defendant Redstone, to
handle the transaction and funds transfers. To allow Defendant Redstone to easily
assist in the transaction, UAMS also authorized Defendant Redstone to “source,
and secure ongoing [3M N95 1860 masks] on our behalf.”
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COMPLAINT
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26. Initially, Defendant McKown and/or Defendant McKown P.A. set up
an escrow, appointing his law firm, Navarro McKown, as escrow agent, to hold
$6,688,000 of funds transferred from the buyer, UAMS, for a purchase from a
seller known as Phoenix Endoscopy Products, located in Florida. On April 24,
2020, Plaintiff wired the $6,688,000 in funds she had received from UAMS to the
escrow held on account by Navarro McKown. Unfortunately, that deal fell
through.
27. In June 2020, Defendant Bourque represented to Defendant Redstone
that Defendant Bourque’s company, Defendant Terminator, had secured exclusive
production rights from a manufacturer licensed by the 3M Company of Minnesota.
28. Defendant Bourque represented that the production rights were for
3M-brand masks and the manufacturer had said masks ready for shipment at a
Chinese state-owned facility approximately two hours south of Shanghai.
29. Defendant Redstone informed Defendant Bourque that it had a buyer
(Plaintiff Boss), but there was concern that the products were not genuine, but
Defendant Bourque represented that Defendant Terminator had paid for an
inspection team (an SGS team) to travel, lodge, and conduct an inspection of the
facility.
30. Defendant Bourque suggested commencing with an initial run of one
million units and, if performance was satisfactory, the quantity could be increased
to 20 to 40 million units per week on transport controlled by Defendant Bourque.
31. After some time had passed, Defendant Bourque represented that the
SGS team had inspected the entire facility and provided a report that Defendant
Bourque claimed confirmed that the state-owned manufacturer was an authorized
3M Company distributor.
32. Defendant Bourque provided to Defendant Redstone a video of the
product, but review of the video showed at least some product was expired.
33. In response to Defendant Redstone’s discovery, Defendant Bourque
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COMPLAINT
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further represented that the masks delivered would not be expired.
34. When Defendant Redstone submitted the claimed SGS report to SGS
for verification, Defendant Redstone was informed by SGS that the report was
fraudulent.
35. In response to inquiries by Defendant Redstone, Defendant Bourque
represented that the SGS team was under a 14-day quarantine and not been able to
upload their report to SGS’ computer system. Defendant Bourque represented that
the issue had been raised at the highest level of the Chinse government and that
confirmation would be received from SGS that their initial information was
inaccurate. The confirmation was never provided to Defendant Redstone or
Plaintiff Boss. Instead, Defendant Bourque claimed that an SGS team member had
engaged in corporate espionage, been taken by the Chinse military while trying to
flee to Taiwan, and was being “dealt with.” All these representations and claims
were false, and Defendant Bourque knew them to be false when he made them.
36. Defendant Bourque next advised Defendant Redstone that another
exclusive relationship had been secured, this time with a Thai company,
Timbermate, that was licensed by the 3M Company. Defendant Bourque provided
a copy of a purported 3M Company distributor certificate and a video and
photographs of the purported products showing all units in 3M cartons displaying
“made in Thailand” with matching lot numbers. Defendant Bourque represented
that, to make its weekly production of 10 million units, Defendant Terminator had
to sell another 1 million units already produced and available for immediate
purchase and delivery.
37. Defendant Bourque was informed by Defendant Redstone that the
information, certificate, photographs, and videos were being provided to Plaintiff
Boss, who would be relying on this proof in making an agreement to purchase the
3M Company products sourced from Thailand.
38. Defendant Bourque represented to Defendant Redstone that
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COMPLAINT
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immediate action was required to secure the long-term contract, that there was
insufficient time to conduct an SGS onsite inspection, and that an SGS inspection
could be conducted after the product arrived in the United States. Defendant
Bourque stated he would guarantee the authenticity of the product.
39. The deadline set for Plaintiff Boss to accept the contract was June 23,
2020, 11:00 a.m. PST, by which time Plaintiff Boss had to wire funds to Defendant
Terminator to secure the 1 million lot.
40. Defendant Bourque represented that the product would ship
immediately after funds had cleared.
41. At the recommendation of Defendant McKown and/or Defendant
McKown P.A., the transaction was set up as a purchase of goods between
Defendant Redstone, as seller, and Plaintiff, as buyer. The purchase agreement was
signed on June 23, 2020.
42. On June 23, 2020, Plaintiff Boss wired $2 million directly to
Defendant Terminator in compliance with the terms of the June 22 purchase
agreement.
43. On June 23, 3030, Plaintiff Boss also transferred a total of $400,000
to Defendant McKown P.A. in two installments: $40,000 and $360,000. The
purpose of these deposits was to pay commissions for the acquisition from
Defendant Terminator of the personal protective equipment products ordered by
UAMS. Defendant McKown subsequently had these commission funds transferred
to an account at Defendant Ohana based on other potential purchases, but then
returned them to his IOLTA trust account.
44. Defendant Bourque acknowledged receipt of funds, but stated that
Plaintiff Boss had “just missed” the 11:00 a.m. deadline, and as a result there
would be a delay in clearing the funds. This delay continued for days.
45. On Friday, June 26, 2020, Defendant Bourque claimed that the funds
had finally cleared, and shipping would commence the following week with initial
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COMPLAINT
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delivery to the Bangkok Airport. Up to that time, Defendant Bourque had given
various explanations for the delay, including a typographical error in the wire
transmittal causing it to be rejected.
46. The following week, Defendant Bourque failed to provide an airway
bill or other proof of transport, but claimed the 1 million units had been loaded and
sent to Bangkok. However, he then claimed all cargo shipments of protective
personal equipment from Bangkok to the United States had been temporarily
suspended and the shipment had to be diverted to Hong Kong.
47. Plaintiff Boss and Defendant Redstone made repeated demands for
proof of shipment documentation. On July 8, 2020, Defendant Bourque provided
them with photographs of a transportation contract, claiming he had incurred
additional expense to ship the goods to Hong Kong. Said purported shipping
contract did not have any provisions stating whether the product had actually
shipped, its destination, or the timing of the shipment
PARTIES
8. Plaintiff Boss Consulting, Inc. (“Boss”) is a corporation organized in
Utah, and with business offices in California. It is a product distributor.
9. On information and belief, and thereon alleged, Defendant Terminator
Armor, Inc. (“Terminator”) is a corporation organized in Arizona, and is a
distributor and importer of products with headquarters at 1375 N. Miller Road,
Tempe, Arizona 85281.
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COMPLAINT
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10. On information and belief, and thereon alleged, Defendant Bourque
Industries, Inc. (“Bourque Industries”) is a corporation organized in Nevada and
registered as a foreign corporation in Arizona, is a distributor and importer of
products, and maintains a business office in Arizona.
11. On information and belief, and thereon alleged, Defendant Carol J.
Condon (“Condon”) is an individual who is a director and/or officer of both
Defendants Terminator and Bourque Industries, and who is a resident of Arizona.
12. On information and belief, and thereon alleged, Defendant John
Bourque (“Bourque”) is an individual who is a director and/or officer of both
Defendants Terminator and Bourque Industries, and who is a resident of Arizona.
13. On information and belief, Defendant Redstone Investment Group
LLC, (“Redstone”) is an entity that is doing business as Redstone Advisory Trust,
offering investment and escrow services and which has offices in Newport Beach,
California.
14. On information and belief, Defendant Aaron M. McKown
(“McKown”) is an attorney, is associated with the Redstone Investment Group
LLC, maintains offices in Newport Beach, California, and is a resident of
California.
15. On information and belief, Defendant Aaron M. McKown P.A.
(“McKown P.A.”) is an entity organized as a Professional Association in Florida,
having as its principal Defendant McKown, and also being associated with the
Redstone Investment Group LLC.
16. On information and belief, Defendant Ohana Financial (“Ohana”), is a
banking and financial institution that maintains offices in Utah.
17. Plaintiff is informed and believes, and thereon avers, that Defendants
Bourque and Condon, and each of them, are and at all materials times relevant to
this Complaint have been, the agents, servants, and/or employees of Defendants
Terminator and Bourque Industries, purporting to act within the scope of said
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COMPLAINT
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agency, service or employment, in performing the acts and omissions to act as
alleged in this Complaint. Each of said Defendants so named in this paragraph are
believed to, and are alleged to, have been acting in concert with, as employees,
agents, or co-conspirators, or members of a joint venture of, each of the other
Defendants so named in this paragraph, and therefore are alleged to be liable
jointly and severally for the claims set forth herein in relation them.
18. Plaintiff is informed and believes, and thereon avers, that Defendants
McKown, McKown P.A., and Redstone, and each of them, are and at all materials
times relevant to this Complaint have been, the agents, servants, and/or employees
of each other, purporting to act within the scope of said agency, service or
employment, in performing the acts and omissions to act as alleged in this
Complaint. Each of said Defendants so named in this paragraph are believed to,
and are alleged to, have been acting in concert with, as employees, agents, or coconspirators, or members of a joint venture of, each of the other Defendants so
named in this paragraph, and therefore are alleged to be liable jointly and severally
for the claims set forth herein in relation to them.
19. Defendant Condon is, on information and belief, and thereon alleged,
to be a shareholder, director, and/or officer of Defendant Terminator. At all time
relevant to the events alleged herein, it is alleged, on information and belief, that
Defendant Condon maintained actual immediate control over Defendant
Terminator’s assets and operations, such that Defendant Terminator was nothing
more than a mere instrumentality of Defendant Condon, who held effective
ownership of Defendant Terminator’s assets and paid the expenses related to
ownership, maintenance, and operations of Defendant Terminator. It is further
alleged on information and belief Defendant Condon is the alter ego of Defendant
Terminator because she has acted as the principal of Defendant Terminator and
maintained control over its assets, daily fiscal policies, and operations.
20. Defendant Condon is, on information and belief, and thereon alleged,
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Defendant Bourque maintained actual immediate control over Defendant
Bourque Industries’ assets and operations, such that Defendant Bourque Industries
was nothing more than a mere instrumentality of Defendant Bourque, who held
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COMPLAINT
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effective ownership of Defendant Bourque Industries’ assets and paid the expenses
related to ownership, maintenance, and operations of Defendant Bourque
Industries. It is further alleged on information and belief Defendant Bourque is the
alter ego of Defendant Bourque Industries because he has acted as the principal of
Defendant Bourque Industries and maint
JURISDICTION AND VENUE
3. This court has subject matter jurisdiction under 28 USC § 1331 and
the U.S. Const., Art. III, because this case presents a federal question under the
Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO), 18 U.S.C. § 1962.
4. Plaintiff’s damages far exceed $75,000.
5. Plaintiff is informed and believes, and thereon alleges, that the pattern
of unlawful and fraudulent practices alleged in this Complaint was perpetrated and
committed in the County of Orange, State of California.
6. Plaintiff further alleges that the counterfeit goods were imported into
California by certain of the Defendants and from there were transported by said
same Defendants across state lines to the buyer.
7. Plaintiff further alleges that certain of the Defendants are residents of
and/or maintain business offices within Orange County, California.
COMPLAINT
Comes now, Plaintiff Boss Consulting, Inc. (“Plaintiff” or “Boss”), sues
Defendants, and alleges in this Complaint as follows:
NATURE OF ACTION
1. This is a civil action for fraud and racketeering activities, breach of
contract, conversion, and unfair business practices.
2. Plaintiff is a product distributor of goods. Plaintiff was authorized by
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COMPLAINT
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a buyer to act as its representative to acquire certain personal protective equipment
(PPE), quantities in the millions. Plaintiff entered into a transaction with a seller
who claimed to have goods meeting the specifications and quantity requested, but
who provided counterfeit goods. This transaction was made through the services of
an investment group, and when the entire transaction was rejected, no money was
refunded to Plaintiff, leaving her liable for millions of dollars to the buyer of the
goods.
Hi All,
Right now JB and CJ are trying to stay out of jail please forgive them if their not returning calls. Their looking for a new attorney from the scam of Boss Consulting and the 3M Masks. Here's a little update:
In January 2021, Boss Consulting, Inc. (“Boss”) Boss filed its First Amended Complaint
in this case, alleging a number of claims against Terminator Armor, Inc., Bourque Industries, Inc.,
John M. Bourque, Carol J. Condon, Redstone Advisory Trust2
, Aaron M. McKown, Aaron M.
McKown, P.A., and Ohana Financial Capital, Inc.3
Redstone Advisory Trust, Aaron M. McKown, and Aaron M. McKown, P.A. later filed a
Third Party Complaint naming Trilithon Sanitation Inc. (“Trilithon”), Semisi “James” Niu
(“Niu”), and James Evans (“Evans”) as Third Party Defendants.4
ECF No. 57.
In February 2022, Kevin D. Hughes and Aaron P. Dodd filed the instant Motion for Leave
to Withdraw as Counsel for all the parties they represented in this action, namely,
Defendant/Cross-Defendant Ohana as well as Third-Party Defendants Trilithon, Niu, and Evans.
The Court held a hearing on the Motion on March 17, 2022. Present at the hearing were
Hughes, Dodd, Niu, and Evans in addition to counsel for Boss as well as counsel for Redstone
Advisory Trust, Aaron M. McKown, and Aaron M. McKown, P.A. (the “Redstone Defendants”),
and counsel for Terminator Armor, Inc., Bourque Industries, Inc., John M. Bourque, and Carol J.
Condon (the “Terminator Defendants”
I've limited my time on this board because as most of us know Borque Industries was just a pump and dump scheme that fell short to ever create a marketable product. JB reminds me of Elizabeth Holmes as to her fake it to we make it thinking.
With the scam of the counterfeit mask being addressed in court JB's fate will be the same as Elizabeths sooner than later.
Pink onesies always looked good on JB and they will again soon.
What a joke! A $5k website to promote a company headquartered in a PO Box in Scottsdale, AZ. I'm sure the drive from South Phoenix to Scottsdale is costing JB more in gas then this company will ever make. Happy New Years boys!
I'm surprised there's nothing on the table. Maybe some fake mask, 20lbs Fat Boy Armor, or some Miller Genuine Drafts . The only thing on that table are broken promises and lies. I'm back baby!
Anybody here Pre-Order their Mims Motor? I'm hoping to pick JB up in one once he's getting out of jail for those Fake 3M Mask.
Here's the first "Nature of Action" in the Case. I'll post 1 a day until we get to 117
1. This is a civil action for fraud and racketeering activities, breach of contract, conversion, and unfair business practices.
Now that JB has hit a home run and scammed Boss Consulting out of over $2 million he's probably buying it. Just read the complaint shame on you JB and CJ looks as if he's set for a little while unless he's back in jail.
Don't Believe the Hype!
My favorite Flavor Flav Quote
Well Well Well I go away for 6, 7, 8 months, however many months and look what's happening ooh nothing! Just more smoke and mirrors. First off I really don't mean to put any of you down just educate you and help you make your way through the Ponzi Scheme which is Bourque Industries.
First off JBRF LLC was JB saving grace back in 2016 it allowed him to bring in a separate group of investors from China that Robert Fish help facilitate and has help JB survive until now. It's funny I remember Robert Fish calling JB at the lab and coaching him on what to say and make sure he was sober when doing so. It kind of reminds me of Donald Trump today being told what to say and going off script only The Donald doesn't drink.
Anyways I stray! Let's talk Helmets specifically the Devtac Ronin Ballistic Helmet first off it's currently being used for Airsoft though some in the Body Armor Industry have tried add ballistics to it and have failed miserably. It actually looks really cool and it brings a lot of hype/attention to those that try and work with it.
AR500 Armor tried to create some buzz with a Boba Fett type of Helmet knowing full well it was only a gimmick. Robert Scott from Armour Wear actually had this exact Helmet back in 2016 and tried to have it NIJ Certified he even video taped it at Chesapeake Labs it failed miserably and in the end Robert Scott was disgraced and sold the company to some foreign investor that closed it down 6 months later.
Needless to say I believe JB is trying to recycle things from the past because he thinks it will garner some attention.
I hope you consider this information when making your decisions on Bourque.
Stay Safe My Friends!
Blastin
John himself has gone MIA. Not sure what is going on. It's been a couple of years since my contacts have been to the lab in Tempe.
Mike,
Yes this person that approached my team was a potential investor. Thank god he got a hold of us before he invested and reached out for some expert advice. Needless to say not sure if Kryron was mentioned during the discussion will find out once I know more.
Blast Off
Well Well Well! I figured I'd disappear and take the "Your Dead to Me" approach to JB and Bourque Industry but seems like JB has been able to circumvent the Investors of Bourque Industry and filter things through his brother Jim in Mississippi. Looks as if brother Jim is trying to get together investors for an Aluminum Wrapped Level IV Body Armor Plate. Total scam. If any of you or potential investors read this be warned. I will not post again unless new information is released.
Looks like JB's new car just came in from China. It's a nice knock off electric car that looks like a Yugo manufactured in China. Heard his license plate is going to be "NaNo". Can't wait to see him driving up here in the Phoenix area.
I think JB is enjoying my Myth post! I agree he ran to Ace Hardware for a prop and took a selfie! Well at least we know he’s still kicking
Myth 2 that Kryron Wire manufactured a couple years back started breaking down with in minutes of it coming out of the press.
This is True Kryron in it's current form cannot and will not be mass produced. And to this day JB continues to look for the elusive pixie dust that will work.
That one was from 2011 when things were popping! BAE Systems even had some engineers try to research the claims obviously they were false!
Bourque History Myths
JB has developed a Level III Rifle Rated Helmet
Outcome - Just a myth and just told to investors of BORK
I think it’s over gentlemen! To the moderator’s of this board I vote to close it down any seconds?
Everyone on here except a select few are waiting for financials! If so said financials are released what do we need to see to make BORK pop or die? Can someone enlighten us as to what would qualify as a good report? $10k, in Gross Sales? $100k? $1 million, $5 million?
It’s a shame that this stock can still be traded and minipulated with less than $1k. Just saying #mimsmotors deposit, #Kryronwho, #Terminatorwho, howlongcanthisgoon
Well looks like Mims Motors is looking to sell a $15k vehicle. Supposedly you can get a $10k rebate from the government leaving you with only $5k out of pocket. I think this Mims E1 is a Golf Cart photoshopped to look kinda like a real car. I’m looking forward to seeing JB driving around in it coming this August ??. I tried to pre-order mine but it seems like the link is broke. Hmmm do we see some similarities with Bourque Industries? #scam, #ponzi, #bankrupt soon, #say no to BORK, #beerme,
JB has been active on Linkedin responding to random body armor post about how he has his 10 X 12 panel weighs less than a pound. Will somebody let JB know that it's 2018 and not 2012 a 1 lb panel is not a big deal. It is if you can produce it for $25. Not sure his mindset right now but I'm sure it's one of being defeated. Not sure what his future holds but it's not running a successful company.
The only items of value might be the patents. There a no longer any hard assets with this company and my educated guess is that there is millions owed to investors, feds, etc, etc. I’m thinking that if there is a bankruptcies those patents can be picked up for pennies on the dollar. I’m thinking the value of those patents are less than $50k under the current structure. This is because JB hasn’t been able to reproduce cost effectively.
She’s been unloading them over the last 3 years not much left anymore
From the rumor mill I hear it’s pretty much over CJ has thrown in the towel and has cashed in her 50 million shares of BORK to pay for her living expenses. His buddy that owned the lab has changed the locks. Waiting for some type of official filing here soon.
As John Bourque watches the State of the Union address tonight he will tweet how great the country is doing and how well President Trump is leading us to a path of greatness. At the same time he will ponder the demise Bourque Industries in 2018 and wonder how he could of prevented this nightmare for so many.
I myself have hoped for the best and rooted for Kryron to be something special. Something I could of incorporate in my product line and something that could of revolutionized the industry. Unfortunately this wasn't the case. The failure to Pivot this company in 2012 with a market cap of over $100 million speaks volumes to the fact that the current leadership team was not the one to lead this company.
Now we wait! For what no one knows! Best of luck my friends!
Yea looks as if some former employee’s and or investors are dumping. Or maybe the Swiss Trip had some holes in it.
Happy New Years Boy's! Time to load up and get this thing back up to .0020 this thing is all about timing. I think JB is now refocused after his meeting with the Swiss Miss Factory. To the moon and beyond.
Well JB was right he was going to buy back some shares wonder how he did that from Switzerland hmmm. Hope he didn't waste all his Christmas money from his mom. This means nothing! He's been flying around the world half of 2017 to get a photo op with some legitimate businesses for 6 years. I'm waiting for him to post photo's on twitter from some manufacturing plant he snuck into. Good Luck in 2018 boys you'll need it.
Well all you have to do is google “Bourque Industries” You’ll see your answer “Permanently Closed” I know this is referring to the old Tucson location but I think google has a crystal ball. Stick with bit coin boys!