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White Coal lol...
No offense this is meant as a haha, BUT
White Coal cheering this on by saying Go Baby Go
is like having a Patriot Cheerleader on the opposing Teams sideline
rooting for us to score...
LOL
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Because there was no Stay PR
Because there was no Motion filed defendant for a stay.
Because it was obvious that from the time linden/wddd announced.
Because nothing came out from either side during the 101 weekend
Because nothing came out after that Monday morning... meant that they were still talking...
Because if no stay = talking,
The only thing before the Friday 101 was amount of settlement or terms of payout (schedule)or if there was a stock interest (doubtful as they recently sold), so it meant all along they were talking and the ONLY thing Monday that they talked would have been a renegotiation of what ever they talked agreed to prior or were close to prior.
I had been in the legal investigative side for a long time
You can read stock boards, you can regurgitate some prior terms and conditions, toss out all kinds of sale terms or believe your a shady tree lawyer... but then there is reality.
At some point even if the terms were agreed to, even if the amounts were agreed to, even if all sides were happy, even if they were so happy they all signed a document it does not matter. NOT
where a judge is involved.
At some point here the Judge in person or by video nowadays would get on and have to confirm that ALL parties are agreeing THAT day (papers in front of him, that these are the terms and conditions.
If the defendant says well your honor there was an update and we would like to discuss such with opposing council - that is it. It is on hold, for a minute, an hour, a day, a year, until the court schedule trips like a circuit breaker and brings the parties together.
Even if that friday morning the deal was inked (signed)... and friday afternoon judge idiot has a crap ruling.. it was not approved by the judge.
Further and OVERRIDING all of the above is this.
The Terms and Conditions will have the following i.e.
UPON the transfer of $x,xxx,xxx.00 dollars from the Defendant to the Plaintiffs councils bank in the amount of x,xxx,xxx.00 the Plaintiff releases Defendant of so on and so on,
Think of it this way
What if linden (its now another name of the buyers really) what if they didn't pay the sum of X when due whether it was a part or whole, what if they did not pay it as agreed, then the whole deal judge approved or not does not matter at all.
What if lindens new buyers failed to make a final 3rd payment 3 years from now, we could either negotiate with them, file a non performance with the court or hopefully file a motion for non performance pointing to a clause if the agreement which says they must pay all plaintiffs legal fees and xxx dollars as a penalty.
But until all of the covenants of the contract are met the issue, the case while technically settled tot he courts is kind of self-stayed. And as long as the money and terms are met it goes away..
But until 100% of the money is cleared, not received, cleared and any outstanding term(s) are met its still open... and Lindens new buyers caught a break. Being so lucky there is Z E R O chance they paid the same amount after Friday that they would have on Thursday before the Friday 101.
That's why.. it was a go all along and why whatever amount we did agree too was less than what was on the table...
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Its like this.
Settlement from when original notice to pacer was to date requiring the court to review and allow was the window. So,
Deal was done in principle,
101 Came out and settlement took a haircut,
Attorneys Thom and NOT LINDEN LABS but the company that bought them
out made it go away, they LL caught a break. Got off cheaper.
Thom rather than say fine we will hold LL until CAFC ruling took a bird in the hand i would assume, take the win.
I would assume we have a PR by end of day tomorrow or monday latest as pacer has not been updated on the court filings for LL to any stay. The deal went forward 100% as the new LL owners want a clean slate moving ahead.
What alot if not all on here are forgetting about is that because MSFT is in stay mode in TX the PTAB is still going ahead - There i have not seen a stay of the PTAB the PTAB if i am not wrong (i could be) should be moving forward to see if its heard or not, no reason to not let that run on automatic.
I think there will be a bump for LL settlement - but its not gonna be big i think LL may have caught a break...
I think if PTAB still running course if denied we will see a bump
I think with a denial there, THAT WILL BE A BIG BUMP.
I think once CAFC is filed we will see a bump and accumulations
I think if we survive the CAFC again IT will be a catapult
I think i have to look and see, that if we win at CAFC can we move trial to TX????????????? Big Question
I wonder if that is possible to move all to TX will Thom move company to offices/county of TX to establish...
JMHO-
We will see.
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BTW if there was going to be a set back its better here, then at the PTAB 1ST TIME, PTAB 2ND TIME of CAFC throwing it all out... lets get this to TEXAS, lets go win at CAFC again ....
Worse case i think is.. perhaps WDDD gets rolled into real brands, RB obsorbs wddd shares, provides RB shares for WDDD and real brands uses MRMD shares to fund and suddenly were all in the Green leaf business.. who knows...
Readers Digest on a few things, not many really want to hear me go on n on.. to answer some quick questions..
1- Originally i said go with the 6 clean claims.. i always thought that let those sit...
2- The judge ON THE RECORD said - she thinks or thought she saw something there, this was (7) years ago and was fine with the PTAB looking at the claims. As it was 100% right till our ruling - top of the apex- was the death panel of patent claims... we survived with the 6.
3- surviving the ptab both surprised her and shocked her as she did not read the patents and claims before i can about guaranty that by what she has said now.
4- The patents did not change, the claims did not change, the parties did not change, the only changes were that the, PTAB said yes judge your right, we have ALL the prior filings, we have ALL the prior art, we have ALL the examiners, We have a panel that reviews crap claims and patents.. AND WE FOUND THESE 6 PROPER AND ENFORCEABLE
5- CAFC said PTAB was wrong on how they reviewed us.
6- PTAB ruled again but gave all the claims back..
7- That was the problem, now the judge had to go through this really for the first time in its 100% entirety. And now we see she has zero engineering background, and instead is hanging her hat on the parlance of the time...
8- She is ignorant of the engineering and works of the claims
9- If she is not a DNA lab supervisor yes sent to a lab results to provide her guidance and then got back 6 good PCR results and then just decides to throw out the upheld by the professional lab and throws out those results in a murder trial because she just does not believe them? what would happen.
10- The 101 is re-pleat with with old information not the most updated motion provided documentation.
11- TEXAS is where i said we should have reincorporated years and years ago, but in either case yes lets get it away from the idiot in boston.. she is a buffoon.
12- were holding - im not going anywhere...
jmho
And yes so did say 101 was not guaranteed - yes yes yes...
All i did say was, hey, we were sent by casper to the PTAB BECAUSE she was the one to say i see something here. Let the PTAB give guidance and they did
The CFAC said we got rooked as well,
The PTAB gave all back
Judge restarted case, never gave a moment of leaning ATVI while she was the one saying she thought there was something there.
HOW!!!!!!! do you say, give it to someone who knows more than i do, then get it back finally after bungoe and atvi lied.... and then say now i know better???
it is that simple, she said she saw something... sent it out for review by those who know better, got a thumbs up she was right and then rules against NEVER MADE SENSE would happen...
So now we go to CAFC OH WELL A little more time
1- PR Is only gonna say, we are appealing
2- Thom is only gonna say we are appealing
3- Texas Judge may move forward (unlikely) most likely will stay until appeal heard.
4- Linden will stay/hold until CAFC appealed.
5- Judge=idiot / Too busy/ does get the tech of the day/
6- MSJ was written with crayon and is very appealable
7- Judge also did not let our side explain anything else during prior motion hearing - appealable
8-MSFT IPR i never thought it had much life in it, still do not
but thats for you all to feel for yourself.
Been hear so long a little more time is no big thing
JMHO
Linden is worth approx $650,000,000 to $750,000,000. It is a privately held company, so no stock in any settlement.
Yearly approximated income to LL is $100,000,000
So do not expect a lump sum of $100,000,000
Though it is possible that a $50,000,000 to $100,000,000 settlement is possible if it is structured - say 5 years of $15,000,000 as example.
Which could mean a worth to WDDD would be $1.00 per share to worth on market, including a tax % of 20% approx and 33% to attorneys all rounded.
If it was a public company it would be different stock from vault and cash, but its privately held so, we will see..
I am confused by the drop at the same time of discovery though. Yes it was from a week ago, its like someone with a crap load of warrants has been selling EVERY morning minus perhaps 3 mornings over the last 6 to 8 weeks has been the seller every time there is a slight rise, they dump more
I do not know, just a thought or two...
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My Thought on the article is this. If say we get past the 101, and then a trial date is set, and then we either settle, go to Jury or Settle after Trial this bigger issue is this.
That case is WDDD v ATVI solely based on their IP for ATVI owned IP
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Should we at some point down the line go after Bungie and should while in discovery, trial, expert testimony THEN find out that they ALSO reconfigured with Bungie the Destiny and other Bungie products then ATVI would be open AGAIN as only the newly discovered IP infringement would be found. Restarting another round of infringement as the person in the article says that ATVI even though they were not supposed to ATVI meddled in the IP so they along with bungie would be on the hook.
I would not sign a BLANKET release in case the above is the case which the article would seem to allude too.
JMHO
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I wonder if these guys will find out who was on Bungies board from Activision
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/scottscott-attorneys-at-law-llp-investigating-activision-blizzard-incs-directors-and-officers-for-breach-of-fiduciary-duties--atvi-300930779.html
Amazing -Now Ex Bungie exec says -
Activision says it had nothing to do with destiny.. See in RED below...
Article link at bottom -
Ex-Bungie board member and composer Marty O'Donnell has given his take on the Destiny deal Bungie had with Activision - which lasted from 2010 to 2019 - calling it "bad from the start."
In an interview with Halo Youtuber HiddenXperia, O'Donnell explained that he was part of the board of directors who made the initial decision back in 2010, but that it wasn't "a marriage made in heaven."
"We knew it was a risk right from the get-go, and then it turned out to be exactly as we thought it was going to be," O'Donnell explained. "Everybody who no longer works for Bungie is gonna say, 'Yeah, it was bad from the start.'" He added that those still at Bungie who say that the partnership worked are being "political". "That's BS," he explains. "There are so many scripted answers out there that I hear."
Later in the interview O'Donnell shares an anecdote about a dinner with Activision executives before the partnership deal had been signed. During the dinner, O'Donnell says he was talking to the Activision CFO about a saying, "Be nice to the goose," (with Bungie being the goose laying golden eggs for Activision). According to O'Donnell, the CFO told him that he liked the analogy, "but sometimes there's nothing like a good Foie Gras" (the controversial food made by force-feeding geese before slaughter). "I get a chill even telling that story," says O'Donnell, "the red flag went off."
Bungie split from Activision in January 2019 after a nearly ten-year partnership that produced Destiny and Destiny 2, allowing Bungie to retain full publishing rights for the franchise. O'Donnell himself was fired without cause from Bungie in 2014, and successfully sued the company for damages.
In the interview, he puts that firing down to his problems with Activision's control over the Destiny IP: "The reason why we went with Activision was not just the money, but it was because as part of the contract, they didn't own the IP," something that O'Donnell explains was non-negotiable after the developer's famous separation from Microsoft.
He claims that, despite the terms of that agreement, Activision was allowed to mould the IP due to the actions of Bungie leadership. "Activision not only didn't have the legal right to mess with the IP, but the only way they would be prevented from messing with the IP is if all the leadership at Bungie said you can't mess with the IP. And that's not what happened. And that's why they fired me," O'Donnell told[color=red][/color] HiddenXperia.
Interestingly, O'Donnell adds that other publishers were in the running to partner with Bungie during this process, but none of them would allow Bungie to retain the IP as Activision did. In fact, O'Donnell mentioned that Bungie "almost went back to Microsoft" after becoming independent from its former owner in 2007.
Destiny 2 is now entirely self-published, and will be coming to Xbox Series X and PS5. In other Bungie news, the studio's new IP will apparently be "comedic" and feature "whimsical characters" according to a job listing.
https://www.ign.com/articles/bungie-activision-destiny-breakup-reason-marty-odonnell
Infringement +
Willful Infringement +
Earnings x
Percentages
+ Treble Damages
x PRIOR ART
- No Skin In the game
Actually = Jealously, Doesn't it,
I mean if your being honest about it, aren't you just a little bit? You'll be gone like the rest of the doom-trolls just mad your sitting on dad's old couch in mom's basement wishing you had 100k to put in. You know it, and except for a slender few here, every other board member here knows it too...
BTW
New calculation is Positive 101 = Your gone 4ever.
THIS IS BETTER, https://otce.finra.org/otce/equityShortInterest
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https://shortsqueeze.com/?symbol=WDDD&submit=Short+Quote
Can we now put the short cover issue to bed.
The recent bleed down i believe is a warrant holder that from over the last 12 months or once over X price or more likely decided to take guaranteed money off the table at 3x the original warrant issue amount and last the rest run with the 101.. Each day , 25k, 50, 100k or more before noon start to slowly walk price down so they do not get hurt like the idiot last week... then folks looking for cheaper shares just wait.
JMHO
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December 18, 2020 Page 3 of 6
Topic 19, 20 (State of the art, knowledge of filtering avatar information that predates claimed invention) These topics are impossibly broad and clearly not proportional to the needs of the case. The topics seek expert testimony and legal conclusions. In any event, Worlds has no witness that has the requisite knowledge from the relevant period of time. These topics should be struck.
Topic 21 (knowledge of advantages or disadvantages over other methods that predate) This is a topic for an expert witness. To the extent it can, Worlds will produce a witness to testify to this topic prepared at a general level.
Topic 22, 23, 24 (communications regarding Activision) Worlds objects to the extent these topics seek privileged or work product information. Worlds will produce a witness to testify as to this topic.
Topic 25-29, 31, 32, 40, 46 (All facts and circumstances concerning communications between Worlds and third parties) These topics are overbroad and unduly burdensome and not likely to lead to admissible evidence. The topics are clearly not proportional to the needs of the case. The topics require all facts and circumstances on efforts to obtain financing, funding, income or revenue. The topics include all facts and circumstances concerning investors and stockholders. These topics are not relevant to the case. Given the breadth of these topics and the innumerable number of persons involved, it is impossible for Worlds to prepare a witness to testify to these topics. It is not feasible for Worlds to prepare a witness to cover the enormous amount of communications covered by the topics. To the extent Defendants limit these topics to discussions with third parties about direct financial interests in this litigation, Worlds will prepare and produce a witness for these topics.
Topic 30 (press release, investor communication or other public communication) This topic is overly broad, unduly burdensome and not proportional to the needs of the case. To the extent this is limited to press releases concerning this Action or Activision, Worlds will provide a witness.
Topic 33, 34, 35, 36 (licensing and agreements related to patents in suit) Worlds objects to these topics as overbroad, unduly burdensome and impractical. To the extent that part (a) of topic 33 is eliminated and topic 34 is limited to technology rights (as opposed to monetary rights), Worlds will produce a witness that can address these topics. Topics 37, 38, 39, 41, 42, 43 (Corporate topics) These topics are overbroad and unduly burdensome as they require all facts and circumstances surrounding a corporation that has been in existence since the last century.
There Case 1:12-cv-10576-DJC Document 325-2 Filed 02/10/21 Page 4 of 7
December 18, 2020 Page 4 of 6 seems to be little, if any, relationship between the breadth of the topics and the issues in this litigation. Nonetheless, Worlds will make a reasonable attempt to produce a witness to address these topics. Topic 44 (financial interest in this litigation) This topic is unduly burdensome, impractical and not proportional to the needs of the case. The topic is overly broad as it includes indirect financial interests, which would include for example all stockholders. It is not feasible to prepare a witness for indirect financial interests. Topic must be limited to direct financial interest in this litigation.
That last drop was a dump or a trigger, nothing on pacer to explain
Thoms deposition
I wonder if the reason for extended deposition is "smoking gun" related.
They have prior with ALL general information right?
When did you buy patents, who were original developers, is the game still online, who are officers, are you a shareholder, etc etc,
Only things that changed from old depositions are;
We beat PTAB - NOTHING THERE
We got CAFC - no ruling from bench negative from us - NOTHING THERE
We beat PTAB again - NOTHING THERE
We have been in discussions with bungie - hmmm
We have been drilling down on discovery - hmmm
Could ATVI want to ask if about emails from anonymous" sources? - hmm
Could activision be looking for an answer of have you received any non
subpoena related information from Bungie
Have you been in settlement discussions with Bungie
Have you had ANY correspondence with any current or former bungie employee that has provided any discovery information or information relating to any prior relationship between atvi and bungie
Have you been provided/received any information relating to ATVI and any party relating to WORLDS
ETC
ETC
Yes some above is compound questions, improper form i know, its just for thought purposes folks,
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Weird i kept trying to buy in between bid ask, EVERYTIME i did within 1/2 a second etrade or others would automatically jump my trade with either a higher share number or higher/same price on top of my trade blocking me out unless a large block took them all...
Big..I thought to short with any major institution you actually have to own the shares if you want to short penny, small liquidity, under $3.00 a share... i could be really wrong here, but i was told by TD/ETRADE both had said they will not buy, set aside, borrow for penny stocks i.e. under $3.00 OTCbb - you actually had to own shares to make whole if trade went against you. It was weird this was like 5 years ago, perhaps it changed, anyone seen similar
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PS to the legacy longs 10 years.. its finally there, just need the Judge to make good on her actions of not dismissing with the MSJ with prejudice, not listening to WDDD attorney for 101, sending to PTAB, allowing USPTO to adjust patent info, allowing discovery to continue on a case thats not going forward, make zero sense to me..
JMHO
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Big.. Keep what you have to yourself, nobody forcing ya bud... As for your thought of only 1 million between all market makers and that on a 800k day 80% of the public float is what is trading is a bit thin no? 56m 13m Thom n friends. last street investor nu.ber i swear i saw was about 179.. i guess alot could be holding hundreds of thousands each?.. honestly i hope your right. better for me. better for us.. I would really like the cross claims info, ill look into it tomorrow and know for sure if any claims cross into our case... Q
Ok, thanks to some here, I am wrong on held portion of float guys
i have to correct but with questions about the shares outstanding.
I am a bit confused,
I hope not a copy paste error, but we needed the 5/1 split for warrants coming due.
I guess an older 10k would help to show shares if the amount changed
Thoms shares show 11 million and with other officers and warrants that can be exercized or coming due total is 13,333,000 approx
coming to about 23.5% of the 56,000,000 TOTAL?
56 million is a known
23.5% is a known
Thoms roughly 11-12 million with compensation is a known
according to 10k insiders/ceo/coo/others hold only about 23.5%
Is there 33,000,000 million in actual real float? I specifically remember that with the 5/1 there was a huge hold in the treasury for use once needed for uplist etc.
So can Mr. Mad or Dave or someone look at that back - What is actual MM public float what is in the treasury, we have everything else.
Can there be publicly be 33 million available to take over, i do not see that. Something is missing here,,,,,,,,,, what am i missing
of the total 56 mill i am at .5% but i am positive that the treasury was loaded for down the line.
I remember it being a whole thing on the board about we were going to get diluted by a 100 million shares plus, the 10k just does not
reflect the reverse and the treasury, or id the 56 million now the real world and paper is held in vault can at any time be printed if needed for up-list or financing warrants I am missing something
DATA you out there buddy...
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As for percentage of holdings brought up the other day.
Real World
apprx 58 mill total out of vault
Thom will always hold 50 percent plus so take off 29,000.000 shares
Thoms friends family others lets say 2 million (guesstimate)
Warrants still active / holding lets say 2 million (guesstimate)
58 million minus 33,000,000 = 24,000,000 shares in true public float
10- Percent equals 2.4 million shares
1- Percent equals 240,000
Thats the true rubber band number that is so tight with stock holders and MMs.
When this jumps up say
1 million shares a day = 4% +/- Percent of real world float
2 million shares a day = 8% +/- Percent of real world float
4 million shares a day = 16% +/- Percent of real world float
8 million shares a day = 32% +/- Percent of real world float
Thom has no reason to let additional shares out until uplist
which i hope will be a reverse buy out of realbrands once we get a single win in court or settlement Then he has enough to provide MMs if need be to then sell to MMs, that money could then go to shares of real brands for the money. then like MRMD we own shares of real brands an on going concern. going to bottom line.
As for real world float approximation its why on smaller 100,000 or 500,000 share days there is such a rise...
if you have more that 250,000 shares you have about 1 percent of real world float.. again just a guesstimate.. I Know its where i am. I will totally enjoy such a tight float.
JMHO, I think my numbers are close, but not feelin well, so adjust as required.
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Ok, there is a lot of brain power on this board so let me ask a small favor of the board.
If someone can find the following:
Which Patents were challenged by bungie and atvi
Which claims were challenged by bungie and atvi
Which claims survived the original PTAB
Which patents did WDDDs claim against MSFT
Which claims did WDDDs claim against MSFT
Which patents have been challenged by MSFT
Which claims have been challenged by MSFT
Is there any crossover
Is there any non crossover and which ones are they?
It would tell the story of whats at stake in WDDD v ATVI boston
for the temp delay in West Texas and or Boston...
Honestly not feeling feel recently, brain pan a little fuzzy..
Your a smart bunch of guys...
lets work as a collective rather than be at odds...
We are all grown men and women who have invested here, and one thing that has to be thought about... One should consider that we are all grown men and women... and if you believe they bought a stock based solely on this message board using a dart on a an ihub where should i invest today board is nutz... if you can not understand that or believe that then we have no common ground.
Information is good = of course
But the sky is not falling 24/7
If we can agree that ALL the information including all the badness lurking around every potential courtroom corner, ptab hallway, govt chamber.. lets just say its ALL NOW BEEN SAID..
Lets get on to real world new information..
If the brain trust here can do the above info for us all it would help, sorry i can't do right now... be well all, Q
Last one for the night guys,
Just to answer a few publicly and privately asking the same questions about Bungie trying to settle.
Again i say we know 100% they tried to settle. This is on the record.
It was subtle, but you would have to go back to the second PTAB call with the PTAB Worlds and Bungie where the question that had to be settled by the PTAB was AGAIN about discovery.
Worlds was asking for a boat load of discovery as the CAFC just told the PTAB allow discovery on a 100% new hearing at the PTAB based on the CAFC remand.
On the call Worlds attorney was intimating that they had just newly bought a new fishing reel, boots and a large net as Worlds wanted to go fishing. Bungie objected saying that even during "SETTLEMENT" discussions worlds was being unreasonable.
This is a matter of record. Its why i go to these things, or listen to meetings or court recordings. Its on the record.
This is why Dave, i was so many times saying that i believed that a settlement was within 90 days or a few months etc etc because I knew that we won at the PTAB, 6 claims, CAFC won what we sent them, won at the PTAB Again that rather then rehear and MOST INTERESTINGLY... Avoid Worlds Inc being allowed to dig into Bungies dirty laundry, instead issues based on the evidence presented instead, dismissed the case based on RPI.
So if we won at the PTAB, CAFC, PTAB again and were in discussions of settlement AND THEN, we filed against linden, with no bungie settlement, then microsoft without bungie settling still.... only three things make sense.
1- We are still in settlement talks and structuring is the issue
or
2- We have not sued them leap frogging them 2x in one year after destroying them 3x and in front of the judicial system, is that we do not want to.. and why is, because everything we can get from them, would be better to get it and everything that is attached to it from ATVI...
or
3- They told us where the bodies and paperwork are buried..
If not, why does a company that hurt us for 3 years, that we have dead to rights, why have we not in 1 year even filed against them
JMHO
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Forgive the typos..
watching television..
I wanted to give it 24 hours to see if anyone would try to crack the reason why we have not gone after bungie.
Dave, (and i am not attacking here just stating a prior post) had said that WDDD may just not want to open more fronts (i.e. WW2) so
I had no other way to look at it as it was as correct as anything else known at the time.
I had in the past 12 months said the 1 believed that bungie would be in talks and or settle within x time frames. Whay is because bungie themselves lied to the PTAB, Cost us WDDD 3 years of time, Cost us Hudson, Cost us burn, Cost us a 5/1 reverse split, this was ALL money out of ALL of our pockets. Bungie then lost 3x, PTAB, CAFC, PTAB. Now I was correct, Bungie was trying to settle why know that for a fact. But to sue ATVI, Leapfrog bungie, sue Linden, Leapfrog bungie and then open another legal front and sue Microsoft, makes not ANY AMOUNT OF SENSE....
I asked all here seeing as i was wrong 0 for 3 times on bungie making an offer and settling, which i was not really 0 for 3 as they did try to settle, just not successful at it, I was trying to figure out and was asking other, then if i am kind of 0 for 3, then why did we leapfrog bungie who we then had dead to rights twice after we won at the PTAB, PTAB, CAFC..??
I have a theory i was curious to see if Dave or others had a reason why another front which was intimated as not a good idea and to months later after going after microsoft, WHY? have we still not sued bungie...
I wanted to see if anyone would exercise there DD thought process before i give my thoughts.
Anyway,
I think the reason was already explained, it was actually explained by the ATVI judges and Judge Casper and a half billion dollar pay off. And that is exactly what it was...
Starting to get the picture yet...?
The big fish all things being what they are is right now ATVI.. I think we can agree on that, if not lets call ATVI in the top 3 then.. i don't want arguments over stupid stuff...
Activision does NOT want extended discovery, The JUdge even got ATVI to admit they were a RPI... WDDD still said no, we want discovery extended as this case discovery goes to willful infringement which is the triple damages scale here folks.
So if for a full year after Bungie was 0 for 3 and should have been the next up on the lawsuit list.. why not, because... If we sue bungie, we can not claim we need the extended discovery we are looking for within ATVI records, emails, minutes, reports on Bungie board meetings from the board member, inter office memos, etc etc... ATVI can't say, go sue bungie. So if we find it all within ATVI, it slays the bigger company plus the treble damages AND, AND, AND... ONCE that is all exposed... Bungie is even more dead to rights then they are now...
The 101 holds more than just the ATVI fate, its really holding bungies as well...
Bungie was GIVEN! GIVEN... A 450 milion dollar gift back once an RPI issue was resolved? why?.. The extended discovery in reverse not only destroys ATVI it closes the lid on bungie too...
JMHO..
Not looking for arguments, fights, call outs, issues,
It just bothered me why i was wrong,
Why WDDD did not take or play nice with the settlement offers made by bungie.. then it occurred to if we say we do not have the information and we say we need it during this case, it solves treble damages against both companies while we dig deep on ATVI... if we sued them, meaning bungie, then ATVI could say, don;t dig here, go dig in that case...
JMHO -
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Excuse the typos typing fast..
be well, be safe
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Yeah, so anyway, Guys and Girls, lets hope 101 gets resolved quickly.
Casper must really be in it up to her chin writing this decision, because she has leveled every prior motion, decision, heard ALL other matters regarding this case, except the last one, either sick, real busy on other cases or writing this pet decision to be as non- appealable as possible.
But to other long, longs here... it occurred to me today that in the reverse ATVI could say on appeal that JDC in not hearing the 101 from S&G / attorney could try to call foul saying her mind was made up already. Not saying its likely, not saying its 100% before i get jumped on...lol... Just an abstract thought, I would bring it up.
Oh btw as for Bungie.... Interesting how we opened up another "front" with Microsoft. I mean normally, if all avenues of settling are done. You file in order in front of you.....no?
So
first it was ATVI... First front (a WWII Metaphor)
second it was Linden.. second....(front)
third it was bungie.... nope microsoft..(another front?)
So for those who have a GREAT deal of insight can someone please tell me why we leapfrogged the ONLY company that took us to the PTAB AND CAFC causing what 3 years of delays..
I did say i thought we would settle as usually you settle or file
So again, I must have missed it i mean i went back as far a 2019 looking for the reason why we leapfrogged BUNGIE and woke up Microsoft instead..
12 months of negotiations? all of which were during the time frame of waiting on the 101.. that's not really negotiating is it, its stalling.
So why has WDDD given bungie a pass to date, otherwise we would be in court with the current time frames on the others, we would be in court before the April?
I mean i know its a lot of FRONTs..
ATVI and Linden
and it was so illogical to open another front
why the leapfrog..?
Anyway Kids
JMHO -
I asked SOME to keep it about the stock and now i will add no personal attacks, it stops now Pseudo or not.
Please keep it to the stock on the board.
If you do not like what someone else is saying keep it too yourself of provide your point of view STOCK RELATED.
Others are here to learn, ask receive information and not hear the grinding about how all others are wrong ALL THE TIME.
PLEASE.........
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Lets all stay on topic please
Anyway, Day traders taking profit, or long profit hoped down spike would trigger others and would then buy back in catching money both ways. Which normally i do not mind, but its got to be a dime or more to day trade a position, the 50% cap gains hit is a killer
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Long Term, Fricken hysterical.
Just an FYI
I am not a pumper,
I do not argue to to argue
All i try to do is provide
1st- filings
2nd- Patent insight as i have 3 with over 70 claims
3rd- I have seen all the players involved except the judge
I listen to the PTAB in person
I was live texting from within the courtroom as well
I listen to the PTAB Call second round as it was only by phone
I have spoken with our attorneys on a few occasions
including in person
I was at the CAFC in person trying to hear what the judges were asking, inflection can say alot. Body language as well.
I have posted only to inform and to give a little insight where i can.
Take it or leave it is how i lay it down...
But i am not bringing in how big money, big elections, big market movers, are corrupt. Its a ridiculous and obvious statement.
Tire prices go up in the winter, Fire works go up in the spring summer, Pool prices go up in the spring time, car prices go down in December (i just bought my Denali at 15k off) Roofers want work when its cold out.
a local municipal attorney gets the nod, gas goes up after April, etc etc etc - pal its all a conspiracy, yes... can you tell us something we do not know?
I provide information that nobody here gets, when i go to the USPTO or the CAFC or the COURTs, that true info, to say big money tries to buy influence i mean come on...
but to then try to say there is corruption in this case well... I AGREE
I AGREE that ATVI was involved in corruption with Bungie
I AGREE that Bungie was involved in corruption with their filing at the USPTO/PTAB
I AGREE that Bungie was involved with corruption when they lied to the CAFC.
But to just throw out hey this is taking a long time because look at all the election fraud conspiracy theories, VRNG, etc..
It just does not enhance anyone here except to piss folks off
We (well investors here- some are just watching) are ALL big boys here
and investors have put their money where their mouths are... EXACTLY what are you teaching those here,
THAT THEY DO NOT KNOW.... ?
That's the important question i reduce it all down too...
Water is wet, Cats are indifferent, Dogs like sticks, Mistresses are expense.. ok... who's life, who's investing are you changing with the
whole - you see a conspiracy around every corner....
I agree there are a lot of corners with conspiracies out there.
But WDDD has slayed all of them, conspiracies here are over.
Did you listen to the call when WDDD asked the judge if she wanted to HEAR... H E A R Pal... HEAR WDDDs side of the argument and she said no?
DID YOU:?
Talk about an appealable issue
I agree everyone can have an opinion - your correct
An you can post what you wish to some degree, yes
I am just telling you, why those here want real info, real NEW insight
not how BABA YAGA is lurking.
We know dude, anything is possible... but telling us the judge could have a heart attack, the lead WDDD attorney could die from COVID, ETC etc, Its just not helping...
But its only my opinion, you may well believe i am very wrong, its cool and it does not need any kind of reply, its just something to think about, thats all..
Good luck to all,
May it be a prosperous new year and more importantly a healthy one
JMHO
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Day traders taking some profit for pennies here an there, does not matter.. this was a buy in by someone who knows and thats fine, can't prove it, can't stop it, were in at 1/3 or 1/4 what he or she paid..
When the daily hits 4 to 7 million, thats when its gonna get interesting.
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Ok,Daddys Home and some of this has to slow down.
BigCash First sorry about your friends, this covid deal has hit everyone on a lot of levels.
Dave. If your the OLD/new Dave then i am shocked at what your saying because you were around during the markman, the MSJ and Whitey Bulger. If your sincerely a "new 2014" Dave then let me
help you a little bit.
You got burned with VRNG or were on the sidelines and a just giving commentary from the booth. Either way there is a difference here.
Prior to Judge Casper (if you got in in 2014 you would not know) the Judge Casper said I think there is something to these patents and claims, so i the MSJ was granted without prejudice. Then when bungie stuck their noses were it did not belong it gave JDC the opportunity to see if she was right.
I have written about this extensively -
You got here sometime (new dave) after 2014. Were were here 5 years before that. That little sentence from JDC was the ONLY thing i have cared about. Once we cleared the PTAB with 6 claims, it was over and i loaded up even more. WHY? because even if the CAFC killed what we sent, we only sent the claims that were not upheld by the PTAB - WE WERE ALWAYS GOING BACK TO BOSTON it was just a matter of WHEN!
Back in boston, she was re handed then whole matter due to the PTAB saying ok, we screwed up. She did not expect to get 100% of everything back, she narrowed it down to 3 patents and 5 claims each if i remember properly?
I said originally we should have just stayed with the patents and claims CLEANED by the PTAB. Thom and Attorneys shotting higher, OK... But she set the date, she set the claim numbers, she set the pantents allowed, she set discovery, she has set motion times, she is writing the 101.... and she said "I think something is here" she now has to write this MONUMENTAL decision which depending on how she writes it will mean we settle or we go to the Court Of Appeals A G A I N .... I prefer she locks this 101 up nice and neat, so activision has no place to run and bungie grabs their collective left arms and fall down gasping for air!
I read your posts (new dave) (old dave had 4 or 5 Dave names) your obviously a GOP guy and thats ok - I WAS TOO... and i hear you bud. But its not really apples to apples, no single judge sais on the record as the ONLY presiding Judge (VRNG) Saying that he personally believes there is something... its a bit different.
I think she is doing a claim by claim granted and patent by patent analysis and has to interlock it with the claims being currently out of date, how long she will add onto the patent in terms of time lost! and which items she might consider obvious AT THE TIME OF INVENTION not in todays parlance.
I thinks its different pal, going way back to her personal remarks from the bench on the record thats all...
As for other states ruling during a pandemic, i would love to debate that with you as a logical conversation.
Go back and re read or read for the first time her remarks from the bench, it might help pal...
Be safe, Be well,
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I have been keeping eyes but been a bit busy, xmas eve my GMC, 3500, Dually, Diesel, Crew Cab, long bed with plow 2years old caught fire and almost took house, fought it back for 25 mins with hose and 7 fire extinguishers.. House siding and roof melted but stopped it from losing entire home. So been busy.
First time in over 10 + years i missed something, not happy, when did this other Judge ?CABELL? get involved for the hearing on discovery on certain items? When the HELL did i miss that one.
Was he just in for the day because our Judge got sick or did she punt this to a special master?
If Judge C punted this, this is interesting in a few ways
1- She is having an issue and could step down due to conflict of interest?
2- Needed special master due to the sensitivity of issues?
3- This needed to be done ASAP and she is still too buried in Alice motion answer
4- Did Judge Cabell? i think that name is right, did he say why he was doing the hearing
Anyone who listened please advise me, i am for once not on it as i should be. thanks, Ron
Hey guys to answer a few questions at once.
1- I can not see Judge Casper allowing anything further of 1-14-2021 if she is killing it all on the 101
2- I can not see Judge Casper after being upheld in her personal professional beliefs and hearing that there was collusion between defendant and possible defendant in her court and with WDDD being now a cited case - Killing these patents on the 101
3- As for MRMD share being gone... interesting, because if you read the last 3 10-q and the last 10-k, we showed holding a whole ton of it still, and as of ??? i think September or october still holding, so why the dump if it did happen?
4- 1% for now, 200,000 shares of RB is nice wish it was more.
5- As for subpoenas, bungie and the 101,
Listen is there ONE person here, just ONE! That believes the only reason we went after MSFT before Bungie is only 1 reason, the 101, Once the 101 comes out, Bungie will come to the table and either a settlement or a court date is coming out of it.
Bungie is waiting for the 101 plain n simple, and now if we ONLY- O-N-L-Y go after bungie for claims OTHER than the 501 they have no place to go to argue to pause as it has ZERO to do with claims.
I have had to try to make that as crystal clear as possible that patents mean nothing, the claims are the issue, claims, claims, claims....
Bungie is in REAL TROUBLE... if the 101 is in our favor, bungie is screwed. I would like to see a settlement but a judge is going to see a successful PTAB, CAFC, PTAB and then a 101 in boston DC...
Bungie does not want everything they have done to go before a jury, NO WAY ON GODs GREEN EARTH does bungie want a jury to hear that activision gave BACK!!!! their game because it only made $450.000.000.00 million dollars that period of time, OR was it because they did not want the liability of that suit too.??????
In a world where every penny goes to bottom line and share price you GAVE AWAY - ACTIVISION did not ask for a single PENNY!!!! they gave the game back to Bungie, right after the PTAB and CAFC????
You think that does not stink... you think a jury is gonna say oh sure ATVI gave 1 billion in sales (since then) just because it was the frickin holidays!!! - no...
6. Judge is going to rule i think within days of the 1-14-2021 date. or rule from bench, but if she was going to kill all this after the PTAB did not find a 101 obviousness issue, you think she is not letting this get to a jury... nope...
7. Now pals, think back when the schedule was released, all thought it was so long away... well its here, between, linden, bungie and activision, pacer and this board going to be very very busy...
8. As for Microsoft.... I have been thinking and thinking. I have written a little, but here is what i think concrete wise is going on....
I think that the patents in the big picture ALL of them were addressed the first go around with the PTAB.
I think that Microsoft was set up by WDDDs attorneys, Its a great fricken move man, a great fricken move.
They went after MSFT for only 1 of 2 reasons-
They went after MSFT because they knew they would go to the IPR route and the PTAB.
Perhaps there is something in the 501 that MSFT could have maybe be violating, but i think that WDDDs just wants another crack at validating the 501 so it can be used against someone else... they see something within it, they want to argue its validity as they did not have discovery the first time (see cafc) they have something and did not want to rock the boat with ATVI, BUNGIE, LINDEN, so they are only going after the 501 solely, which means the other claims are 100% still in play to use in court.
Lastly
I think that its gonna start getting really interesting soon.
and the best part is that sometime the end of this upcoming year once were done with one of these cases, we will be allowed to time extend our patent time which only means more money, more infringers....
JMHO
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Ok, I am confused. DataStream or PatParsing i have a couple questions here.
WORX was..Words Online Symbol..
WORX became Worlds Inc WDDD Symbol
Worlds Online became MeriMed -
A name change as Worlds Inc was getting into the MJ business.
Worlds Inc retains the actual patents in play
MeriMed- Was given - (transferred too) our digital side- materials
when Thom was Director/Board Member-of MeriMed- Did we get that back or is it dead, who runs the server, maintenance etc.
Thom Left- MeriMed
Thom had provided for WDDD some i think $5 million shares MRMD..
As of 12-31-2019 10K
12 months again there was 2.5 million shares LEFT of MRMD
AS OF 10 WEEKS AGO - THE 10Q STATED
Liquidity and Capital Resources
At September 30, 2020, our cash and cash equivalents were $790,404. The Company did not raise any funds or sell any shares of stock that the Company retained in the spin off company MariMed Inc. during the nine months ended September 30, 2020. The Company used $769,784 in cash to pay for operating expenses during the nine months ended September 30, 2020.
Am i correct here-
Do We still own a pile of MRMD
If someone can go through the 10qConfirm the MRMD side, my head hurts, lol... I thought someone said we had sold out or mostly of MRMD But as of 10 weeks ago, we still owned and it states no sales last year ending 12-31-19 too...
Also - Thom sued for $1.5 million MRMD, Was any of that fee, for WDDDs legal as the OTB shell or other legal, are we due anything from that. Would have to look up the case i case i guess...
If someone else could advise on MRMD
Thanks
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Nothing has happened that I did not say would. I write for those seeking information and to make It easier for those seeking a reason, a prior act, issue at hand OR what is coming. I tried.
I said years ago, make the subpoena broad, look for information electronically and for the board member before he dies to give a deposition as well.
Activision can not have it both ways.
The say Worlds is information hunting and looking for information that is IPR related of which Activision still says they had nothing to do with. A Federal Agency said that was not true. See the publication agreement as evidence.
Also, Activision doesn’t want a broad scope subpoena regarding the case, even though there was 2 (TWO) full months left in the discovery process before the case was suspended to go to the PTAB. And now that the case has re-started they do not want the subpoenas digging up dirt.
As I said, I thought that Bungie and Activision were praying another company would file an IPR as they got caught colluding before, they could not ask another 2nd, 3rd party again.
As I said ATVI would file saying there could be issues in those other cases or IPR that the court should look at and maybe take a break, slow down, perhaps put this case again on hold while Worlds goes to court with ANOTHER company so that hopefully something shakes out that they can use.
As I said Judge, Casper will have to make the decision of being nice to ATVI and give them more rope even though they lied in her court, it is on the record, the case is like 8 years, delay delay delay the Judge
Will 1- Not rule against the 1010 and 2- will set a court date and 3- will rule that because there was a higher or if not lateral level agency-court (non article3) found there is another party involved – (bungie) that Worlds has some latitude to ask for documents where 4- anything related to worlds, bungie, IPR, court case, or associated file name, file number or other nomenclature used to describe the case, parties, information, and 5- she will reserve for now the need for the code requested and will have a motion on what Worlds specifically is looking for and its reasoning for the CODE, 6- she will review and possibly use a special master to hold the information from the public and may ask for a 3rd party review the request to see if the code has Anything Worlds is looking for.
85% of this all I wrote a week ago…
Honestly I see a bunch of friend of the court briefs coming to the linden case as well.
ATVI- is in trouble, the Judge I do not think is going to be favorable, ATVI- could run appeal the request, but I do not see it favorable as THE RECORD (thank you PTAB-BUNGIE) Case is not favorable to either bungie or activision.
JMHO
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There is multiple intersections going on.
1st, As i said and i got a little crapped on but I said we should seriously consider going into Boston DC with ONLY the 6 given claims.
If i remember, I said it would keep the record CLEAN.
I saw this coming, i just figured we would see it from ATVI first in an appeals issue basically saying that we went in with GHOST claims.
Don;t bother looking up Ghost Claims, i just made it up, it sounds right.
I thought it would provide ATVI without the lever of saying these patents are only before you due to a technical issue. Or to appeals.
Now back to the today issues -
MSFT going to the IPR-
I met the bigger players here Thom, Wayne, - Not stupid people.
I can only think that one of a few things are in play, in my humble opinion.
1- Discovery time is running short in ATVI
2- Wayne Helge does this for a living, while (and i am so so sorry Wayne) got caught a bit flat footed the day at the CAFC, he had the meritorious defense that day so he played down to the level of the competition that day, it happens - BUT more importantly here is that this is all he does, ALL he does. They have the temperature of the PTAB and CAFC right now.
3-Helge and Co. have to deal with replays at the PTAB before our 2 wins and since.
4-The bar will be a lot higher for the IPR folks as was said by DATASTREAM, he schooled me on that one and i had to do some reading.
5- MSFT= Nobody here thought they were gonna just roll over did you.
Its a win win either way, one just takes longer.
The IPR is denied in which it will get kicked to the CAFC again.
6- The kind of issues that brought us there before are not the same again though. PTAB at some point seeing as funkhouse and sittek etc are once again in claim -
we are 100% EXACTLY where we are with judge Casper right now EXACTLY.
7- Where in the 101 we expect to see it go our way because the Judge ruled 7/8 years ago with here own words that she sees something here and sent it to the PTAB for validation (as i have said)so she has Appeals validation and cover from any undue outside political pressures
The PTAB will be able to rely on its prior ruling at some point and say AGAIN that they what-exactly? That they found the 6 patents (which i wrote about just not so many days ago) should not have been found valid? and embarrass themselves before the USPTO, Judges, CAFCs Legal Community - I mean they already had to eat a big ol serving of XXXX pie the last time Worlds came around, are they now going to say a 3rd time around they really should have killed the other 6 claims.
Like i said kiddies its not the patents its the claims.
So using the same language i used just last week re: Judge Casper
i will use here.
No way on GODs green earth here the the PTAB as they are people too with a small community they live within professionally are going to re-reverse themselves ONLY TO HAVE WORLDS GO BACK TO THE CAFC AGAIN for another beat around the block. BUT-That route would take some time.
Its a huge crossroads of events - If i am wrong here let me ask you this - Why did Linden not start an IPR?
Because they did not want to reopen other claims they know will hurt them.
MSFT by its very nature is litigious. They must pay a billion a year in total legal salaries around the world or more when all is said and done. This is big, they want their shot.
It was a double edged razor- Either take the 6 claims, solid, PTAB tested claims and go back to Boston and win against ATVI and Bungie and then use them where we could
or
Go back to the CAFC get as many claims back ONLY for Boston ONLY for ATVI Only for Bungie but take the chance on Other we go after for the GHOST CLAIMS, because we all know the other 50 claims were considered dead.
I assume, Linden may enjoin the IPR or file friend of the court briefs and perhaps consult with MSFT or just let MSFT do what they did not want to take a chance with.
PROBLEM WITH THAT THOUGH-
Problem is, if the PTAB holds up ANY Claim, -A N Y- CLAIM, its done, the rest of the industry can file whatever they want but the PTAB will not hear a thing, because the road has been paved 3x by then they are no going to revisit it again.
The bigger problem which we will see shortly could be a brief by ATVI
to Judge Casper saying, excuse us but....... there is another PTAB filing which we believe there is different meritorious defenses here which should be decided before moving ahead again...
Now a lot of you may say but hey what about us, we should finally get a day in court, every time we get close to a trial date someone else can come in and delay us 10 months... well that depends on the Judge. I do not think Casper wants to hear ATVI crying about the PTAB from ATVI who was shown to have lied in her court.
Bungie, just got a fricking life line thats for sure, because they may now want to file a friend of the court brief on info too regarding anything they could not last time or anything, lets face it they had to wait for someone to do something, they certainly could not be found to have asked - see colluded- with another company to file an IPR that is for sure...
I see discovery going forward.
I see the Judges ruling to be as solid as possible for appeal purposes
I see bungies lawyers wanting to file with MSFT case as friend
I see Linden saying well the can is opened now, now we have to fight it out.
The question as for MSFT case is I think will go to the CAFC at some point where the Same Judges will now revisit another time WDDD.
This time to figure out if the PTAB rulings to either:
Hear the case again and find for us and MSFT goes to CAFC on some BS.
Hear the case again, take away our claims in total including the 6.
WDDD flips a shit and back to the CAFC WDDD goes.
Hear the Case and Bungie or Linden find a reason to petitions the CAFC.
In either case i believe that there will be even more friend of the court briefs as ALL the players see ATVI in trouble, Bungie in trouble, Linden with not starting an IPR think they are weak, so everyone else may jump in here... and like i said who thinks that the PTAB will now have the balls to now UPON ANOTHER review take away the 6 from the first 2 tries.
JMHO-
Caddy i think or it was someone else- regarding the 2022 patent expiration, the Judges can if they see it proper can add time onto the patent expirations there by resetting the clock as we did not have full usage of the patents, plus there was another idk its late, i think another was issued in 2015? - someone else can look that up.
So yes there is still licensing to go on and use i think.
Plus the following p sorry i know this is long but someone asked.
We should and i was crapped on back when, that we should take stock and not cash, 3% to 5% of 20 of the largest is nice income forever.
OR
We could get bought out- that is not in the calculations there
OR
We could get a win in Boston as JDC is not gonna given ATVI much.
Or
The dividend spoken of on top of anything else here or there mentioned...
All i can say is this, Who now is gonna with all this attention now going to go back on their own findings? The Judge, The PTAB, I just do not think so...
I am glad funkhouser et.al have been so thoroughly been reviewed, we have a record.
I have to think that this is a predetermined play here and its gonna come in the form of the motions to dismiss that this has been asked and answered before the PTAB but i think giving back the 50 added GHOST CLAIMS left a bad taste in their mouths at the PTAB and they really would like to reassert the 6 and kill off for the same prior reasons the 50.. it will be interesting.
Like i said 1 plus year ago or so, keep the record clean go into Boston with the 6 clean claims for appeals, for kiling bungie, slay them, then you want to use the 56 against someone else like linden ok, but not in Boston... and here we are, Not saying, just sayin.
Hope all are well,
Hope all keeps moving forward and all goes well, its been a long road
JMHO
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It cost Somebody $275k to buy in because no way they got 600k shares at .32 it was at...so chomp chomp chomp ate up all the levels... so someone or someones 3x now buying in about 500k chunks. lets see now moving ahead.. say anything you want i am happier it spiked to .69 than .0069.. it felt good I'll tell you that..
i guess a huge buy in, blew through all layers exactky as i daid would happen the other day, exactly.. an i now is truggering a lot of left in auto sell orders in case of a 2x or 3x... But, again someone has been buying alot its all good news someine knows something from a copy machine an office a clerk someone
Whats happening?!!!im out of pocket
Could be the decade being a long here talking
my God that was three spinal surgeries ago...
Anyway, I digress...
While yes there has been some disagreements on this board... and yes we have had to banish a few, yes, we had to fence with a few using words as rapiers... hope like torches... but in the big picture here, those who remain are the pillars of a solid group.
Yes we all have individual goals. Each has been optimistically considering the end results and possible points of additional investment and or price staging exit, yes.
But truly those that were here when Bungie sent notice by way of the PTAB, Those who stayed through that first PTAB hearing and waited for the results, we have brass balls... We are the true Torch Bearers here...
I for one also understand that anything can happen, i am not stupid
Like others that have been here this long, we have all had to average down pre reverse split.
I can say with all due confidence as i said in the last post as to why. There is no way the judge rules all the 15 claims, 5 patents allowed and pre approved by the PTAB, pre approved by the CAFC, and again found by the PTAB and after a finfing that there was collusion/lying between ATVI and Bungie to the Judges Court.
The Judge is not stupid.
There is no way that both Bungie and Activision would outright lie to a federal agency and a federal judge if there was not a problem they were trying to hide.
And, Judge Casper... knows it...
AND We have all put our money were our mouths are to back it up...
There is an accumulation starting which is good but who cares really. The new money will pay 35% tax, Us 10% or less. New money will be welcome at least by me when its $1.25 to $1.75-(the real hump) and then $3.00 as then the true mathematicians will come out of the wood work.
The there will be calculations based on ALL the years of each and every game sold by Activision, every download, every in game buy in during game play in World of Warcraft, Call of Duty-1,2,3,4, Destiny, HearthStone, OverWatch, Diablo III, Hearo's of the Storm, Star Craft, StarCraft 11, - AND - thats just Activision.
Bungie is DEAD IN THE WATER right now, praying for a miracle
They will once the 101 goes forward make an offer, i think as least.
Second life for all the years they have been around and every single in game buy in during play.
Sony, Disney, King, Electronic Arts, etc,etc
AND AS I SAID ABOUT 18 MONTHS AGO - AND I THINK ITS REAL IMPORTANT
Right now, NetEase Has US assets, They are 10% of Bungie directly, which means they also somewhere have a US agent/attorney handling of of their legal. NETEASE is worth $57 BILLION Dollars, 10% more than activision. We will be able to sue them here in the US and when we win, we can attach their 10% stake in Bungie as its an asset.
If we win with Activision and somewhere down the line we get whiff that NETEASE is looking to sell its share in Bungie to exit US market to avoid, we could make a motion to have the sale assets seized, by the courts the release of said amount held, as it would be moving assets out of the US during a US case of which with all the legal wins would show we have a meritorious defense. ... Its not as much a reach as some may make it out to be
If we can get a single win, it will not be in Delaware as the Judge is ruling out the 3D context... but if we can get a single win on the "3D"=VR front, oh my... then its Facebook/Oculus, SonyVR, XboxVR ETC...
As the software downloads are calculated by doctors of mathematics
calculate, the hard disk sales, in game buy ins, i would make the argument that every console sold ALSO is due a look for consideration of the sales amount seeing as each unit sold was designed to facilitate the use of the stolen IP of worlds.
Lastly, I was just thinking that IF, ONLY IF, worlds ran into money issues again upcoming the 5%+ total club (about 10-12 of us) could consider converting shares to cash. Then in lieu of common shares fund the company with the cash and worlds could provide warrants.
The reason we are watered down a bit, (5 to 1) the worlds treasury has it and more. Worlds could provide the warrants at a very convenient number, with a reduced lock in period, but more bang (warrants) for the buck.
Yes there would be loss as PPS would go down, and there will be a tax gain to consider about 10% for those i think would be interested, so we could figure an amount per share that would make us whole, plus a percent BUT MUCH LOWER than anything the street would offer.
Just a thought so that the company does not need any further toxic funding and Thom doesn't have to stress the funding issues...
Those thinking this may be a good idea, shoot me a email at WDDD.SHARES@GMAIL.COM - I check it only every 2 to 3 days so do not take it seriously if i delay getting back.
But seriously only if your serious about it. So we could figure out who is who and the math, its only a just in case. I just hate the idea of flooding more common shares to some outfit charging Loan Shark percentage rates to Worlds. We can keep it in the family, worlds doesn't need to get hurt more than it has... Maybe I'm nuts, just a thought...
Just a Thought or two...
JMHO
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