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If Doug Vance told you that he lied. I have him in tape explains his workings with vega. If it's the truth or not Vance said it
Yea I really don't like this at all
That is correct
Molens not Gator man
I got the shit on tape gator I asked him point blank when he gave me his email address and took mines down about his involvement with Molen. That's bullshit Gator and you know that. If it's no deal then why lead people to believe it is by even showing up to the event. Why not say it's no deal. Now whether or not Molen and Vance are working together now I don't know but I was lead to believe that they were working together by what they both presented at the open house. I ain't got no reason to lie for either of those guys.
Gator I'm talking about Vance
Then what in the hell was he doing inVirginia presenting himself like a Vega partner? To get his machine back? To help Molen in a last ditch effort to sell shares?
I already got money with mike that's not going nowhere until something happens that's why I chose to be hopeful instead of pessimistic. So if he is bald faced lying then I just lost out and I'm stuck. If vance is doing what you propose I know he's a liar before hand so is rather not give him money on that notion. But that's just me
Like I said I don't know what Mike doing I can only hope for the best that's me I'd rather think that way. As to Vance if that's what he is doing I feel no more safer investing with him because that would mean he looked Me straight in the face and lied to me about what he was doing and planning on doing with Molen and Vega. I have him on tape I wish I could upload it. If that's the case that's one I'll just miss out on. Not gone lay in bed with somebody If I know before hand they will lie to me
I ain't say it was true I said that's what he told me cause you say vance gave it back does it make yo shit true?
Man ain't nothing going on but the rent. Mike sent me an email about 2-3 weeks ago saying that his 25k deposit to Doug Vance was real and hasn't been returned and that he and Vance are actively working on plans as stated at the open house.
How does that help your money
I second that opinion
Nada still trying tho
I don't think that's what he's doing I think he is trying exonerate any wrong doings on his part. By getting with the person whom feels Molen has lost contract with Vance and Vance himself on the phone to clear up all misunderstanding toseems as if he is Attempting to make his dealings transparent to me.
All that information you are sharing you got directly from Gator I know because he told me the same thing. And if what Gator said is true I wouldn't want to invest with Vance either because I went to the open house and I have Doug on video explaining in detail his relationship with Vega. So if Doug Vance would present himself as a Vega partner and it not be true it doesn't matter his reasoning then he would be a liar
Yall have absolutely no idea what your talking about. I can't take this serious
Naw Lincoln I asked Doug Vance point blank who's deals they were. He explained in detail his relationship with Molen and vega. And even if he hadn't said all those things the open house was implied as a Vega Biofuels open house. And all parties involved seemed to confirm just that. There was no hint of some kind of disagreement between Molen and vance. There actually was a reassurance that each individual spoke with both confident about deals in hand. If that was false vance is a con man he and molen both. Don't think that's so tho
Biochar is used to make more energy efficient steel
I was at the open house. And if Vance doesn't have any deals with Molen then I wouldn't want to do business with him either. Because he would be a bold faced liar. I have video of Vance explaining in detail the perspective deals with steel companies in Indiana and West Virginia that have already delivered some black material that's supposed to be used to make steel. I just don't buy him just out right lying like that. What would he even have to gain. He would only lose credibility in a situation such as this. That would be dumb. I honestly don't know what is going on but all this second hand guessing is not the way to go. MOLEN and Vance at least at the o/h seemed to be on the same page. Now if the whole thing was a misleading sham then why would nexgen fuels be a good investment if they are ran by a liar. Doug didn't come off that way to me. And to be honest neither did molen. He was pretty forth coming about everything. And none of the information was necessarily good. Only bright spot was the steel
You so funny. You talk like u got that info first hand. Sum of u dudes are really sad
So you spoke with Doug Vance and he said he doesn't have an agreement with Vega?
Mike said there would be a pr about the sale of Vencor nothing else. And that did come out
Vencor is in a whole new industry neither one of those companies are taking over.
Molen doesn't seem as bad as he has been painted to be either. I'm glad I got to meet him first hand. He's not captain America or anything like that but TO ME he seemed like a guy trying to get things done. He doesn't have a billion dollars worth of resources but he is working! That's alls we can ask. Now if this were a multi billion dollar company ok but with what we are working with I think we are handling it well. This is a large market and we don't have to be first to get a piece of this trillion dollar pie
I don't think they were BS. I just believe the agreements in place just didn't workout. One thing to remember with Vega is that this is a start up company a start up pinky company at that. This is a high risk investment. Things are not going to go as planned. I'm glad Molen continues to push forward because it will only take one time to get it right
I don't think we will have a R/S. That was a rumor started on here by someone who probably doesn't even really follow the company. Will we deliver on what we have proposed. I do believe so.... But with that being said will I die tomorrow? Well, I hope not, I hope I will live past tomorrow. And to ensure that I will do everything possible to prevent an untimely death. I hope you understand the comparison I'm drawing.... There is no way to know if we will be successful but from what I've personally seen I do believe Molen and his team are doing everything in their power to ensure they are successful. Now will a piano drop on Molens head? Who knows but those guys are definitely working and not aimlessly. They have definite goals and solid plans on achieving those goals. So I am hopeful about the future...
Went to the open house and I must say I was impressed with the way MOLEN handled himself. Gator made sure to ask the tough questions about past hick ups and I believe for the most part Mike was upfront and professional in his responses. A lot of developments happening with the company and i am excited to see how everything plays out. As for production that piece of metal that Gator took a picture of a few months back is to say the least not a piece of metal anymore. That in itself tells me that money is being spent and efforts are being made to come through on profits for the company in This industry. That machine should be running by no later than Wednesday of the coming week and I saw nothing from the staff there including Doug Vance to suggest that we shouldn't expect that machine up and running. Shortly after that shipment should be announced. And I believe that will happen. Based on what I saw this weekend. I don't think Molens credibility is in question so much as to whether or not he can just come through with the deals he has in place. And he actually has deals and prospective deals ready to be executed. Molen is working. A few developments with the company I wasn't necessarily happy with but understand why certain decisions were made from a business standpoint. All in all I was pleased to see that this is real. And I am excited about the possibilities of this company. Looks promising
Headed to Virginia!
Why would u go if you know all that?
How do yall know this? I know it can't b from what Gator said the other day
I think I'll just go see for myself
So how are we having an open house if there are no machines owned by neither Gaspard or Molen
What if he doesn't cancel and its 5 machines somewhere producing biocoal orders that mm secured. What if that's the reality we're going towards. And just because simething doesn't workout like you Plan that doesn't mean your lying it just means you should rearrange your plans. Sounds to me like that's what Molens done
Good call
Yea these reports start at 2600$ and I've seen some as high as 4800$. I'd like to see what a report worth 4grand has to say about Vega. I don't see them wasting time researching a fraudulent company for a report so expensive. And it's not just the one and I've been seeing these reports since April of 2014. Maybe something really is in the works. Maybe deals are being worked out. Atleast we have the open house to look forward to. I'm anxious to attend. If it's just half as good as Molen has described this wil take off. And it doesn't have to go that high, the price, for people to make 6 figures easy. I've been loading up myself making another big drop in the 14th. Sometimes this s end to big to be true. But everything that's worth anything had a period where operations where cloudy at least from an investment standpoint. I missed out big on the quantum fuels systems qtww. I sold at .64 an in less than a year it was at 11$. Not gonna happen to me again not with this one
Do these research reports mean nothing? I see them all the time and in most I either see Vega as a leader or Biochar Now somewhere in the mix. Now is the information they are using outdated. Because a time ago I saw something about the Mantria Corporation in one of these reports and we know how that turned out. Although it was only one report and I didn't purchase the report so I don't know what they were saying about the company just that they were listed as a company mentioned.This report was posted 22 hours ago. http://www.benzinga.com/pressreleases/15/07/p5710818/biochar-market-2015-2020-global-key-manufacturers-analysis-review-now-a but I've atleast seen five other sources detailing the same Information
Lol yea I get pretty passionate I apologize my friend
Lol yea I get pretty passionate I apologize my friend