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Fredugsi--was that you I noticed in the memorandum having executed your written consent to approve the transaction?
Fred--email
louky220@yahoo.com
Fred--see post#1667
I almost forgot, I see I owe you $50. Send me payment instructions ether publicly or privately. I will send you a check.
<<Nope, didn't receive it. Anyone know what that means - not receiving it?>>
May be a delay if shares held in "street name" and, depending on the firm holding custody of the shares. Have yet to receive mine as well, not that I am anxious to get the kick to the groin.
Take a loss and punt or, possibly throw more good money after bad? That seems to be the question and bottom line.
According to sources, it appears Riverwood and the current management team will have made some good (definitely not a home run) money on the Aegion PVC pipe sale transaction while Pictet and the majority of non-institutional shareowners (yours truly included!) are going to show a loss.
Any ideas as to when we can expect the information statement to be forthcoming? If sooner rather than later, will it allow us enough time to evaluate whether we feel it prudent to take possession of the new shares should we unwittingly decide to retain a position in the ongoing entity? Granted, and based on experience, we would be fools to invest anything further along side this management team. As a private company, they were able to keep us at just the right distance to in order to play us for fools. Very well done, Andy! Congrats!
Bingo, you're right!
Now, was the mgmt. team of Seidel, Jain and Stanzcak put in place voluntarily by Smith or was he felling pressure from the Board and they made it appear to be a natural transition? The reason I say this is once the new team came on board, Smith kind of went off into the sunset and never had any real say or decision making in operations.
Do you know for a fact that Smith did indeed hire Andy? My thought, perhaps incorrect, was that The Board lost confidence in Smith, allowed a graceful exit and then hired Andy. Perhaps Andy's availability may have made for an easy decision and hastened Smith's departure. Not saying you are wrong, that was just always my assumption.
As for shareowner communication, I don't believe we will see/hear anything from Andy until the transaction officially closes. Not much he can definitively say until then. Once it closes, he will most likely issue a share owner letter/update.
Don't believe Mark Smith would be involved at all in the transaction unless, he is entitled to a recurring revenue stream on whatever patents he owned and negotiated with UGSI. I would think any current/continuing involvement would have to be disclosed as part of the transaction.
I would also think if there were any patents in the first place, they would be nearing the point of expiration, if they haven't already lapsed. Of course there could have been an open-ended side agreement between UGSI and himself when he was taken out (forcibly relieved?) of his day-to-day involvement.
Good find and report!
The sections I found of interest in the transaction are as follows:
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Section 3.04 Capitalization.
(a) The authorized capital stock of the Company consists of 2,000,000,000 shares of common stock, of which 622,080,895 shares are issued and outstanding and 900,000,000 shares of Series C preferred stock, of which 547,216,952 shares are issued and outstanding, each as of the close of business on the date of this Agreement.
Section 3.07 Undisclosed Liabilities. Except as set forth in Section 3.07 of the Disclosure Schedules, no Company Entity has any liabilities, obligations or commitments of any nature whatsoever, asserted or unasserted, known or unknown, absolute or contingent, accrued or unaccrued, matured or unmatured or otherwise which exceed $50,000 (in the aggregate among both Company Entities)
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It appears the (our?) surviving entity will be UGSI Solutions, Inc., at least for the time being.
If the sale represented 55% of the Co, this places the acquired value at $155 million with the remaining 45% worth $70M. Let's assume a buyer premium was paid so the intrinsic value is more like $140M. This places the remaining segment (UGSI, Inc.) value at approx. $63M. Any thoughts, input, insights or comments?
With the benefit of hindsight, this divestiture may have been in the works for awhile. I say this because UGSI seemed to be separately branding and referencing the "solutions" side of the business for over a year now.
Going forward, Mobile Pipe is going to be a drag on margin as demand from the oil and gas industry is slashed. AEGN just announce their own divestiture to reduce exposure from the same industry headwinds.
We are now left with the [old W&T] Chemfeed and PCI solution businesses. Not a bad thing since they would seem to be higher margin and less labor and capital intensive than the "old" underground side.
I have to assume the electrical conduit part of the business where we were gaining traction and held a lot of promise will be part of the sale. Damn!
I imagine we will see the $85 million put to work soon on another "solutions" side acquisition.
Have been out of pocket all day and getting to leave for a dinner engagement. Is AEGN acquiring UGSI, Inc in it's entirety or just the Underground Solutions, Inc segment of UGSI, Inc.? They may be one and the same. Clarification anyone?
MIA
Strange that there has been no Q3 shareowner letter to-date, not that it would contain anything out of the ordinary. I do think they may be working on another acquisition and waiting for finalization so they can include details in
the report. Alternatively, it could even be an asset sale announcement and sign that a certain segment(s) is
not performing. Either way, the share price has been beyond disappointing. I guess you already know that!!
Happy New Year to all.
My GUESS is it will be out this coming week. No reason to expect any great revelations. Why should there be? 2016 will be a pivotal year IMO.
Attn: Fred
Email me your current email address. Tried sending you something and it was kicked back. Thanks.
You are right, Fred! Except for perhaps a few crickets, things have been very quiet around the UGSI board lately. What do you think are the chances of another acquisition being in the works?
We should still have some available funds from the Riverwood transaction, as well as the internal cash being generated from operations. An objective over the last few years seems to have been the desire to make an acquisition about every 12-24 months. I'm sure the new Riverwood representation on the Board would like to see critical mass increasing also. Andy's past MO has not been to sit still for very long.
Only time will tell. Stay tuned. We have no other choice!
Fred--Small consolation--Post #1629
UGSI may be losing ground but if it keeps up, at least you will win $50 from me at the end of the year. Copy of post #1629 below. What the hell was I thinking!
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Fred,
Greetings! You and I can have a head-to-head on the y/e closing price of UGSI. You selected 5.5 and the current bid/ask is .08/.09, so current price is say .085. Your guess of .055 is .03 below the current price so I will say a closing price of .115 (.03 above). Whoever is closest pays the winner $50. Deal?
Insight from Christopher Gasson, GWI publisher
Published August 6th, 2015
What is right for the water industry at this minute in time? I have been thinking about this question for two reasons. First, because of my work with Amane Advisors, I am now more involved in advising on corporate strategy, and if you are going to tell someone that they should do something, you need to have a coherent story about why they should do it now. Second, because I was sent a link by Underground Solutions chief Andy Seidel last week to a TED talk by Bill Gross of IdeaLab. In the clip, he analyses the five success factors behind successful start-ups: the idea, the team, the business model, the funding, and the timing. He concludes that timing is 42% of the cause for success, while the team accounts for 32% and the idea only 28%.
Seidel applies this to his own business. “We were lucky to start a pipe business that relied only on rehabilitation and repair on the cusp of the 2007 epic real estate collapse (which normally feeds the pipe industry). Experienced management meant that we picked the right business model, were able to execute, and had capital as necessary. No doubt the idea was good, but it was good for the five years before we came along. I’m pretty sure we’ve got the same dynamic right on the switch from gaseous chlorine to liquid hypochlorite in the area of disinfection. It’s why we’ve been able to drive over 30% in compounded annual growth rate (CAGR) since 2006 and be profitable since 2009.”
The importance of time also applies to my own business. I bought Global Water Intelligence in 2002 for £17,000 and then stepped on the most enormous growth curve as the desalination market tripled in size between 2002 and 2007 (it has since slipped back to 2002 levels, but we have long since diversified beyond that market).
Seidel’s first career in the water industry was with USFilter. That also benefitted from good timing. Together with Dick Heckmann, he was able to roll up a water business with revenues of $5 billion from scratch during the 1990s. It benefitted from the fact that at that stage, the US water market was largely unconsolidated, and acquisition accounting rules – together with a rising stock exchange – meant that as long as USFilter made acquisitions at a lower multiple than its own earnings were valued at, its share price would rise with each company it bought. The final exit – selling the business to Vivendi for $6.1 billion in cash in March 1999 – showed a true genius for timing. Vivendi, under Jean-Marie Messier, was at the peak of its imperial ambitions, fuelled by rich cashflows from its French municipal business, and dying to prove that a dull boring utility could be just as much a growth stock as any dot.com upstart.
Looking around the market today, I think it would be quite possible to build a $5 billion water business from scratch. There are five or six systems integrators with revenues of $50m - $200m which are readily available, and once you start pulling them together, some of the larger corporate assets could easily come loose. Broadening out beyond systems integration and equipment supply, there are also opportunities to acquire assets in operations and water treatment chemicals.
The problem is that such a roll-up is possible mainly because there are more buyers than sellers, and the reason why things are that way is because the growth prospects in water are currently considered to be pedestrian compared to those in other sectors such as pharmaceuticals. Shareholders probably want to see more than just a cost-cutting consolidation before they accord the roll-up company the kind of ratings that USFilter enjoyed.
My feeling is that any kind of roll-up has to be accompanied by a change in business model. Although Bill Gross reports that the business model only accounts for 24% of success, I think that the timing is right to explore alternatives to the traditional equipment/systems sale, and that the real opportunity in the water market today is to acquire businesses at low prices, and to evolve them towards pay-as-you-go services instead of one-off sales. The combination of overstretched public balance sheets, the growing complexity of water technology, increasing water scarcity and tougher regulation, and tighter management of corporate assets, means that all water companies are faced with the choice of either stagnation or evolution. There is an opportunity for someone to take leadership in this area. Five years ago, when the world was awash with stimulus money, it would have been too early. In five years time the space may become too crowded.
I am not expecting an immediate up-tick in activity, but I do feel we have reached something of an inflection point in terms of the opportunity. It is why we published a report on the market for private sector participation in the municipal market earlier this year, and why we are publishing a report on the industrial water services market at the end of next month.
Article from GWI (Global H2O Intelligence):
Published August 27th, 2015
Underground Solutions (UGSI) had one its best quarters ever, as profitability outpaced historical norms, while revenues soared, putting the company on track to double its full-year sales versus 2014.
Overall, UGSI’s Q2 revenues were up 58% year-on-year, thanks partly to last July’s acquisition of the Process Solutions onsite hypochlorite generation business. The higher sales fed through to an “outsized expansion of profitability”, CEO Andy Seidel wrote in his quarterly letter to shareholders earlier this week.
Although Seidel indicated that the company’s core fusible PVC pipe business is likely to continue to grow at a double-digit rate for the foreseeable future, not all of that growth will come from water applications.
“We are very encouraged by the mounting number of opportunities, some of which are substantial, for the use of our Fusible PVC pipe as conduit for trenchless installation of high-capacity power cables,” Seidel observed.
Annual Top Line
Best guess as to where annual revenue was for 2014 (full year) and/or anticipated for 2015?
Anyone planning on going to WEFTEC in Chicago next month?
Q2 shareholder Letter.
August 24, 2015
Dear UGSI Shareholder,
As we expected, UGSI business activity levels sharply increased during the 2015 second quarter,
with sizable revenue gains on both a sequential (+65%) and year-over-year (+58%) basis.
Excluding the revenue generated by Process Solutions (PSI), which was acquired in July 2014,
revenue grew by 27% in the second quarter of 2015 compared to the year-ago period. This
significant growth was largely driven by strong performance in our Infrastructure Group, where a
30+% year-over-year increase in quarterly revenue translated into an outsized expansion of
profitability due to the operating leverage that exists in this segment of the UGSI business.
Bookings in the second quarter of 2015 grew by approximately 15% over the same period in
2014, but were flat sequentially. Excluding the impact of PSI, bookings declined 10% from the
previous quarter.
In the first half of 2015, revenue grew by 36%, or nearly 10% on a “same-store” basis. Bookings
during the same period grew by 22% over the corresponding six-month period of 2014 and were
relatively flat excluding PSI’s bookings. Our mid-year order backlog remained at near-record
levels, providing support for the continued robust revenue levels we expect over the balance of
the year.
Looking ahead, we believe that our Fusible PVC® pipe business can sustain double-digit growth
for the foreseeable future, and we’ve been investing in additional sales resources to support this
anticipated growth in 2016-2017. Additionally, as I’ve shared with you previously, we are very
encouraged by the mounting number of opportunities, some of which are substantial, for the use
of our Fusible PVC® pipe as conduit for trenchless installation of high-capacity power cables.
We look forward to updating you on our continued success in this area in future
communications.
Contrasted with our more established and streamlined Infrastructure segment, UGSI Solutions is
still relatively early in its development cycle, requiring additional investment to build the
foundation for its long-term success. As noted in the opening paragraph, last month marked the
first anniversary of our acquisition of PSI. Over the past year, we’ve been putting the necessary
organization and processes in place as the business continues to scale up. In fact, we expect
roughly 100% revenue growth from 2014 through 2015. Business improvements, while gradual,
are beginning to occur and we are excited about the continued growth prospects for PSI amid the
growing market acceptance of its on-site hypochlorite generation technology and increasingly
stringent regulatory requirements for disinfectant residual management in municipal drinking
water systems.
The UGSI Solutions companies will be exhibiting at WEFTEC®, the Water Environment
Federation’s Annual Technical Exhibition and Conference, in Chicago, Illinois on September 26-
30. We invite you to stop by and see us in booths 5116 and 5216 during the event.
Thank you for your continued support.
Respectfully,
Andy Seidel
Bid and ask price weakness the last couple days. Means the Q2 letter release is imminent and as Fred opined, will indicate weakness in the energy space.
My guess is Thursday for the shareholder letter. Major emphasis on "guess!"
Fred--email me your current email address. The one I had (@Mac.com) was kicked back as undeliverable.
Fred,
Greetings! You and I can have a head-to-head on the y/e closing price of UGSI. You selected 5.5 and the current bid/ask is .08/.09, so current price is say .085. Your guess of .055 is .03 below the current price so I will say a closing price of .115 (.03 above). Whoever is closest pays the winner $50. Deal?
Sure. Whoever participates will pay the winner the equivalent of 500 shares (rounded up to the NEXT dollar at the closing bid price. Thoughts from the board?
Aug 19 is as good a guess as any. If anything, I would have to bet the "over!"
I'm afraid Republican views on infrastructure spending won't really matter. It is basically a matter of what Hillary will wish to promote as part of her agenda.
Do any of the regulars by chance live in the LA/Anaheim area or, will any of you be attending the June 8-10 Anaheim AWWA convention where UGSI will have a booth? Not that it really matters. My guess is all working the booth will have been given strict instructions to discuss only the product(s) and absolutely nothing about company ops.
Nothing earth-shattering contained in the report, especially on a "same-store" basis. Infrastructure results are disappointing, especially with the national economy seemingly gaining momentum. Not sure how much seasonal factors and weakness in the oil/gas markets played a part or, if they are being used as a scapegoat to disguise lack of execution and margin. We shall see over the course of the remainder of the year.
On another note, I was able to confirm there are now indeed 1.2 billion shares outstanding, so basically a $100 million current market capitalization!
Q1 Shareholder letter
May 19, 2015
Dear UGSI Shareholder,
UGSI continued its track record of sustained growth in consolidated bookings, backlog and revenue in the first quarter of 2015, with notable gains on all three fronts. Bookings grew 36% compared to the corresponding quarter of 2014, with 9% growth when measured on a “same-store” basis (i.e., exclusive of bookings from Process Solutions, Inc. (PSI) acquired in the third quarter of 2014). Additionally, UGSI’s backlog grew nearly 14% over its year-end 2014 level, providing the momentum for continued top-line growth over the balance of the year as the backlog begins to convert to revenue. Finally, total revenue increased 11% during the first quarter of 2015 compared to the year-ago quarter, but fell by roughly the same percentage when PSI’s revenue contribution is excluded.
Revenue during the first quarter of 2015 in the UGSI Infrastructure Group reflected a more typical seasonal pattern as severe winter weather disrupted construction activity over much of the country and Canada. Improved weather in the second quarter, coupled with a record backlog, portends markedly higher activity levels of Fusible PVC® pipe installation over the next several months. Additionally, our Mobile Pipe Lining and Coating business turned in solid revenue gains during the 2015 first quarter, reflecting the strength of its year-end 2014 backlog and continued growth in new orders. Municipal markets have remained resilient thus far in 2015, but industrially we are beginning to see the anticipated effects of weakness in oil and gas-related markets. These headwinds are expected to continue over the balance of the year and will likely result in heightened volatility in the timing of non-municipal orders, as well as pressure on pricing and margins in the Infrastructure segment of our business.
We continue to believe that 2015 will be a watershed year for our UGSI Solutions Group, with continued bookings growth and a significant ramp-up in revenue beginning in the second quarter, particularly in the PSI onsite disinfection business. In anticipation of this rapid growth, we have taken a number of important steps at PSI in recent months, including the addition of new senior management and staff, constructing improvements at PSI’s Campbell, California facility, and numerous business process initiatives. While much remains to be accomplished in this emerging business to improve its sales effectiveness and ensure that it has the requisite execution capabilities to match its growth potential, we are making significant strides and look forward to keeping you posted on our progress in future quarterly updates.
We will be exhibiting all UGSI companies at the upcoming AWWA ACE15 convention in Anaheim, California (June 8-10). Stop by and see us in booths 546, 547, 548, and 549.
Thank you for your continued support.
Sincerely,
Andy Seidel
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer
<<Do the four or five of us regulars on this board hold enough shares to bring UGSI management to its knees?>>
Pipe--My best guess is we own between one and two percent. Not nearly enough to mean anything.
I am clueless but curious as to your thoughts........
Okay, so Riverwood commits up to $45 million almost a year ago. To package this deal in a PE (private equity) fund, they want to see potential for a PE type of return, audited financials (check), a viable and growing business (check), a solid management team (check), shareholder equity/skin in the game (check), Board participation (check) and an eventual exit strategy. Playing the devil, if Riverwood commits $45 million, would it be unreasonable to assume they would have valued the company at a MINIMUM of $100 million BEFORE writing a check?
We have seen the quarterly shareowner reports since then reporting great progress yet at the current share price, the company is being valued in the marketplace at less than $60 million today! What is happening behind the scenes that we are unaware of? Who would be selling here and WHY? What would you have to pay in the open market to acquire up to $30 million (354 million shares) of shares to have a controlling interest? What do you think you would have to pay (in total) for a 10% interest?
GWI article
Published 19th March 2015
UGSI going strong after ten years under Seidel
Diversified water services company Underground Solutions (UGSI) enjoyed its fourth straight year of double-digit revenue growth in 2014, while EBITDA grew by 46%, according to CEO Andy Seidel’s annual shareholder letter, distributed earlier this week.
It is now nearly ten years since Seidel’s management team took office, and over that time, UGSI’s compound annual topline growth rate has averaged around 25%.
As ever, the lack of published financials prevents the indicative share price on the over-the-counter market from reflecting the reality of the company’s fiscal health, although patient investors should take solace from the fact that UGSI’s capital structure was simplified last year as a result of the $31.5 million equity financing provided by Riverwood Capital.
Despite the fact that UGSI’s core pipe business is likely to suffer from the downturn in oil and gas expenditure, Seidel wrote that “[w]e are well-positioned for yet another year of double-digit revenue growth.”
- See more at: http://www.globalwaterintel.com/news/2015/12/ugsi-going-strong-after-ten-years-under-seidel.html?source=email#sthash.WqHIOwtS.dpuf
Q4 Letter to Shareholders
March 16, 2015
Dear UGSI Shareholder,
I’m pleased to report that 2014 was another successful year for Underground Solutions (UGSI), with considerable achievements on a number of fronts.
From a financial standpoint, 2014 was our fourth straight year of double-digit growth in both bookings and revenue, resulting in a compound annual growth rate in revenue of roughly 25% over the 10 years since current management joined the Company. Bookings during the year increased by 43% (24% excluding bookings from the recently-acquired Process Solutions, Inc. (PSI) business), which helped drive a 27% (19% on a “same-store” basis) increase in total revenue. Additionally, this robust order activity led to a record backlog at year-end 2014, up 139% over the year-ago period, which bolsters our optimism about 2015. In terms of profitability, 2014 EBITDA (earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization) grew by 46% over 2013, even after absorbing significant costs related to the acquisition and integration of PSI during the second half of the year, as we continue to see operating leverage in the business.
Other notable accomplishments during 2014, all of which I’ve touched on in previous quarterly updates, included:
• Completed the acquisition of PSI, now a part of the UGSI Solutions Group, giving us a foothold in the growing on-site water disinfection market. With its MicrOclor™ product, PSI is the domestic leader in on-site chlorine generation systems which replace bulk chlorine systems. Additionally, PSI’s Tank Shark™ product, a reservoir and tank mixing system designed to optimize tank disinfectant levels, is gaining steady traction with several recent notable orders. Since PSI’s acquisition, we’ve spent considerable time and energy on integration activities and the necessary business “body-building” to ensure that we have the right people and processes in place for the business to successfully move to the next stage of its evolution.
• Streamlined the capital structure of UGSI to provide capital for external growth and improve financial flexibility. In a series of related transactions, we raised $31.5 million of equity capital through the issuance of a new series of preferred stock, most of it from Riverwood Capital. A portion of this new capital was used to fund the PSI acquisition in the third quarter, as well as to pay the cumulative accrued dividends on our previously outstanding Series A and Series B preferred stock issues. As part of this transaction, all of the outstanding Series A shares were converted to common stock and all of the outstanding Series B shares were exchanged for Series C shares. As a result, no further dividends will accrue in respect of the Series A or Series B shares.
• Continued our penetration into the electrical conduit market which we believe holds great promise for the future given the bidding activity we are seeing. During 2014, we were recognized by Trenchless Technology Magazine as “Project of the Year New Installations Honorable Mention” for our Fusible PVC® pipe that was used in a large HDD installation of an electrical transmission line, an industry first in terms of distance and complexity using PVC.
http://trenchlessonline.com/project-of-the-year-new-installation-honorable-mentions/
As we near the end of the first quarter of 2015 and look at the balance of the year, we remain bullish about your Company’s prospects. With our substantial backlog and continued success in winning bids by securing preferred specification positions for our products, we are well-positioned for yet another year of double-digit revenue growth. In particular, we are excited about the opportunities that lie ahead in the UGSI Solutions Group, as our Chemical Feed and PSI units are both projecting above-trend growth this year with a newly-expanded, combined sales force supporting both businesses. Since its acquisition and re-start in 2012, the Chemical Feed business has continued to regain market presence and industry position. Investments made in personnel and product development are expected to bear fruit in 2015. Further, given its increasing market acceptance and ever-expanding order backlog, we expect PSI to grow significantly in 2015.
The UGSI Infrastructure Group, consisting of our Fusible PVC® pipe, Service Guard® Composite Pipe, and Mobile Pipe Lining and Coating businesses, is also anticipating another successful year with meaningful revenue growth despite some challenges. While this portion of the business faces headwinds from the recent downturn in the oil and gas markets, resulting in volatility in the timing of certain projects and pressure on pricing and margins, the extent of the impact of the slowdown remains to be seen. During 2015, we are also continuing to invest in additional sales professionals which we expect will begin to pay dividends in 2016 and 2017 through increased sales. While these sales investments will penalize earnings in the short-run, we believe this strategy is prudent as we manage the business for the longer term.
As stated earlier, we believe the UGSI business has substantial operating leverage potential as it scales up through continued growth, both organically and through acquisition. The business has ample liquidity, through its available cash resources, unused bank credit facilities, and ability to raise equity capital from Riverwood, to invest in growth and to capitalize on new acquisition opportunities to augment its internal growth. We will continue to seek out and diligently evaluate these expansion prospects, whether existing businesses or complementary technologies, where we believe they are a good fit and can create shareholder value.
As always, we appreciate your continued support.
With both the Pictet revelation and the significant weakness in share price it would appear Andy has some "splaining to do." Good luck with that one! Doubt the quarterly shareholder letter (should be out this week) will shed much insight either, other than the usual.
We are finally seeing a little forward momentum. Granted, the bid is at .10 but today we closed at .12, after trading as low as .08 at year's end. This rather significant advance has occurred with extremely low volume which to me, is a positive and may mean a lot of the selling pressure (supply) has subsided.
With the exception of the northeast, we have experienced a relatively mild winter which should provide an assist to our year-over-year comps.
The next 60-90 days will be interesting and hopefully confirm an uptrend we are deserving of.
Continuous supply available in the .11-.13 range with very few buyers hence, the low volume of late. I have been on the bid lately at times and whatever sellers meet me there, someone usually comes in at the end of the day with a 100 or 200 share purchase at the offer to prop up the price. This may be to prop up their account value in order to sustain other non-UGSI marginable positions in their account.
The supply could be due to year-end tax loss harvesting in which case we may see a pop back to the .13-.15 range shortly.
Happy new year to all you undergrounders!
FWIW
The company website listed at the very beginning of this Ihub page should be updated if anyone knows how to make it happen. It is listed as undergroundsolutions.com when it now should be ugsicorp.com. The new one is a lot more informative with links to Mobile Pipe, UGSI Chemical Feed and our newest acquisition, PSI.