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More than likely JH got his money in the form of cash. He's wasn't stupid. Brown paper bags are great containers for cash.
As long asthey are registered and legal to sell (which is completely unlikely) I will sell everything and forget this ever happened.
Mike in a perfect situation your shares would be good if:
1. You bought from third party and they did a transfer of shares to the company and sent them the money.
2. You recieved a receipt stateing such a proceedure was done.
3. All papers where notirized.
Some people who sold shares as third party did just that. I know of several transactions that went that way.
However the shares where not llegal to sell in the first place because they where not registered. Not even the ones that folks sent money directly to the company. They where never registered!!
Get the picture here...."The Shares where never registered!!"
Old Hillbilly...you are a hoot.
Sent to the address given for confirmation. As of today not a peep. Could Marcia be trusted??????
I asked two weeks ago for confirmation and not a word. Nothing ,nadda. I've been holding since Sept. of 2008. You would think they would at least have me in the system. Unless someone destroyed some of the original records...but I know that would never happen.
Pooper the real question with that report is ...will it be real and factual and certifiable?
That asset amounts is almost twice the national deificit. How could the be true? The largest company in the world doesn't have that kind io assets. If there is one please tell us who!!
Bravo19 could you please list the assets that you claim are there. Most of us believe that any "assets that might have been there have expired because of time-line contracts.
No wonder it's took so long to get those Certs out......I would have had a heck of a time picking one of the designs. do you think the Min. alliance had a vote?
glad you guys are here to keep the cobwebs out of the attic. I'm off balance today with Lee going to Philly....YESSSSSSS!
When did you get that email. Haven't gotten it which leads me to believe they are not as up to date as one would think.
There is a company that has a patent on a new refining process that greatly reduces the cost of getting the gold out. They are located right here in my town. I was thinking of hooking them up with Petro if this thing was for real.....Glad I waited. Call me slow for acting but not STUPID! Don't know about the process Good Ole Johnny was spouting about.
Thanks Old Hillbilly, muchly appreciated. The unfortunate thing going on here is that there are people that are frustrated mad and disappointed in the events of Petro. There is no doubt that some where absolutely right in their asessment of the company (it's hard to find out you where wrong about something) or maybe it was really the person who was running the show.That turns out to be "right on") The question will always be where there really any assets of value?
Even though I invested very little, I too am pi**ed off. I want to believe that there is some substance to the claims of assets but those are now long gone. (Those guys have cut and run...rightfully so!)Life goes on!
I just hope the folks on here can use the professionalism that they claim to have. These situation are never pleasant.
MY HOPE FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR FOR EVERYONE IS TO HAVE A GREAT HOLIDAY!! GET WITH YOUR FAMILIES AND CHERISH THEM FOR THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT MATTER.
Old Hillbilly, would really enjoy chatting with you sometime..you seem to have a great outlook. Thanks again
Here's one for ya'l I stand corrected an there is an opt...OOOPPPSSSSSS.
They have no "Opt Out" which is required.
Old Hillbilly, here we go PII (Personal IDENTIFING INFORMATION) information to anyone who can get their hands on it. FACTA compliant..No! Who knows what PII they have access to.
Mike if what you say about your connection w/the SEC...Then you are violating the law by revealing insider information.
Mike you don't seem to understand.. The Green looking sheet I have that says I have X amount of shares is not registered stock. nobody has a tradeable share...not even you. So how is this going to work out? Please give us some wisdom in that area!
Bravo, The point that is being made on the board is that Petro has not been able to validate itself. If it where a real thing then the guys on the board would be talking in another tone. such as " how OH mismanaged the company and what could be done to rectify the situation."
You must agree that since no viable and provable documents have been presented that the "nay factor" will remain. I'm sure if there where tangable assets Harley,Nodummy and the crew would at least be talking in different vinaculars. One cannot just say it's real without PROOF.
Nodummy isn't this the good will press you wpuld want for your company...make me encouraged to want to buy this stock...LMAO
Mike500 I go to buy a new car. In talking to the salesman I ask to see the stats on the engine. He says to me, Sir I would be glad to show you but youhave to buy the car first. The manufacturer doesn't want any trade secrets let out. But how can I buy if I don't know whatyt I'm buying I say. Salesman: well you'll just have to do it on faith. I say: No show no sales....he laughs!
Mike, this stock was bought on faith..(mistake no.1) Reciepts Certs where never turned into Stock Certificates(mistake warning No.2) Weekly calls with promises and no tangable results or documentation (mistake No. #3) Second party affirmation on great this whole thing was with no colaboration from the main company (mistake #4)
Now ther are 2 people on this board that are claiming basically the same things in the almost same manner. Did Owen hand out a handbook on how to? Ya'l should know bu know unless you can back something up with cold hard facts you had better keep your mouth shut. The LDF is a total sham, The YouTube stuff is utterly comical and here you go doing the same thing OH and JH did.
The definition of insanity is doing the samething over and over and expecting different results. Albert Einstien.
No one on here is an Einstien!
What you say may have a grain of truth. But Mike500 talks as thought he knows things that the share holders should know also and unless he is a petro employee then he is speaking with insider information and that is not legal or ethical.
Don't you think we should have them now so we can do our DD. Instead of setting up a Defence Fund set up a website that shows these assets.
Who is trading this stock and why?
Nodummy .... you and I and everyone on thisboard knows they haven't done the proper proceedures to set that up. It was done way to fast and "you" know how long of a process it is to do such a thing. It's the ole blind leading the blind. It's really hard to give up a dream...some people never do and then there are those that persavere and become millionaires. Never giving up hope on an idea is what made this country what it is today...But it has to be legit and worthwhile. Petro at one time might have been, but Mr. Greed came a knockin'.
Mike have you seen thepapers and verified them as real and correct? Otherwise it's just someone telling you they are real. Otherwise would you believe there is a beach party in the Artic today?
As usual these people don't look at the rule book first and then act. Everything they do is knee-jerk reaction.
I didn't know that cloning of humans was legal. But maybe this is one of the hidden assets...LOL
And was the office a permanate place of business or just a place to entertain potential clients and a place to hang a fedora?
The thing here is this...those poor yokes might have something that shows assets and the such...but....what those docs. show isn't real and they don't have the ability to see that. Just because it's written in a booklet doesn't mean it's true. Ex: Bernie Madeoff and his monthly statements to his clients.
I'm waiting for Don King to appear. And in this corner.......
Those guys should dig back in the archives and look at Perry Mason.
Nodummy, does what you foundout really surprise you. Not Me! I know there is someone waiting in the wings to do the CEO job but they are not KC insider and they run a very ligitimate company. The Silaca Guy..("No name to protect the innocent")
You are right Nodummy...Here we go again..DO YOUR DUE DILLEGENCE.
Bravo19, listening to those Thursday calls is just where things began to go wrong....misleadiing information from Owen and Johnny. Geez get it together bro.
No it's not you dummy...9000 people own it and don't forget it!!
The only way for anything to happen for an outsider would be to have to company go into recievership and have someone like the "silica guy" to be appointed. Usually though it's a court appointed person and they usually really do nothing except sit there and let things go to pot. I should know I went through it once.
Nodummy, I'll let you know when I know what the the source knows. Know what I mean? LOL
I have it from a very good source that the silica mine owner is/was willing to do the CEO job. But I guess that the board just wanted another puppet in that job.
Let's face it, this guy is more interested in getting OH off the snerd. Petro needs to move on with a totally new management team. Absolutely not connected to any of the former people. That's just good and smart business. This guy can try to get a trucking contract with Performance Packageing.