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GET REAL!! $350,000 , GOES BACK TO KAMPA TO PAY OFF HIS LIEN ON THE PATENTS. WHICH HE HAD NO LEGAL RIGHT TO PUT IN PLACE.
THE BALANCE OF THE 650,000 GOES TO PAY BILLS , WHAT IS KEPT I HAVE NO IDEA.. BUT IF ITS SEED MONEY TO DEVELOP ANY NEW PATENTS OF SCOTT, ITS NOT MUCH!!!.
I DON'T SEE WHERE ANYBODY IS MAKING ANY SUBSTANTIAL MONEY ,OTHER THAN TRADING. EVENTUALLY THE SUCKERS ARE GOING TO GET TIRED OF BEING BURNED.
I'M SORRY, I WAS REAL OPTIMISTIC WITH JACK, NOW I DON'T KNOW. THE BEST DEAL HE COULD COME UP WAS THE KAMPA DEAL, WHICH IS NOW SHIFTED TO SUEZ TECHNOLOGY.
WE NOW ADDED ANOTHER LAYER OF A PRIVATELY HELD COMPANY, WHICH HAS NO RESPONSIBILITY TO SHARE HOLDERS , SEC, TO SHARE ANY INFO ABOUT THE COST OF ITS OPERATION , SALARIES ,ETC. WE WILL NEVER KNOW WHAT IT WILL COST KAMPA TO CODE AND DEVEOLP THE PRODUCT. SO AFTER WHO KNOWS HOW LONG , THERE WOULD BE A MONEY TRICKLE TO THE THE NEW PRIVATELY MANAGED CO , 2-3% OF THE NET , LET'S GET REAL!! SUEZ TECH, WHICH WILL HAVE OPERATING EXPENCES, CEO, BOARD MEMBERS ETC , MISCELLANEOUS. WHAT IS LEFT OVER WILL GO TO EXOBOX. LUNCH MONEY FOR 2500 PLUS SHAREHOLDERS, IF THAT!! I AM TRULY DISAPPOINTED!! THOUGHT JACK WAS THE MAGIC MAN. SEEMS LIKE IT WAS A FIRE SALE, WHY WOULD THIS STOCK GO UP? DAMM I COULD SCREAM , REALLY WAS HOPING.
LET ME THINK OUT LOUD..
EXOBOX SOLD ITS ONLY ASSETS,PATENTS AND TECHNOLOGY TO A NEW FLORIDA CORP.IN EXCHANGE EX TOOK A 100% OF THE SHARES OF THIS COMPANY. WHOSE OWNERS ARE NOW THE SHAREHOLDERS OF EX. THERE ARE MANY QUESTIONS :
JACK MUST INTEND TO PROLONG THE LIFE OF EX'S TECHNOLOGY.
MUST INTEND TO MARKET THE TECHNOLOGY THRU THE NEW COMP, SUEZ TECHNOLOGY OR SOMETHING.
MOVING ASSETS TO THIS NEW COMPANY WILL DEFINITELY CONFUSE ALL THE LIEN HOLDERS BACK IN TEXAS ,SINCE ITS NOW A FLORIDA COMPANY
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IT NOW HAS NO DEBT, ETC.AND COULD POSSIBLY GET FINANCING AND SUBSEQUENTLY ,PROFIT WHO KNOWS WHAT ELSE. EVENTUALLY SOME PROFIT COULD TURN UP AT EXOBOX. UNLESS SUEZ IS HANDLED , WHO KNOWS HOW? SINCE IT IS NOW IN THE PERVUE OF KAMPA'S PRIVATELY HELD COMPANY.
LET'S HOPE THE NEW CEO HAS MORE SCRUPLES THAN PREVIOUS CEOS, OR WE REALLY HAVE NOTHING AND ANOTHER FOX HAS GOT THE KEY TO THE HEN-HOUSE.
CRAP, I'M SCARED I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN WRITE IT OFF NOW
I REALLY FIND IT UNFATHOMABLE THIS STINKING NONSENSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! . OH WHAT THE F.
I AM NOT SORRY TO REPEAT MY OPINION !! I HAVE BEEN READING THE POSTINGS BEFORE I STARTED TO POST. YOUR FORTHRIGHTNESS AND PERSONAL OBSERVATIONS OF THE DEFECTS IN EXOBOX AND ITS MANAGEMENT AND CEOS , HAS BEEN A NEGATIVE AND CAUSED MUCH IN THE WAY OF DISCOURAGING POTENTIAL INVESTORS FROM EVEN GOING TO STEP 2 OR 3 AND ATTEMPTING TO LOOK INTO EXOBOX. YOUR CONSTANT HARANGUE OF EVERYONE AND ANYTHING TO DO WITH EXOBOX HAS DISCOURAGED ME TOTALLY .
I WISH YOU HAD NOT BEEN QUITE AS AGGRESSIVE WITH YOUR POSTS. PREVIOUS CEOS HAVE BEEN THE REAL DETRIMENT. ITS DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND HOW SUCCESSFUL BUSINESSMAN, ATTORNIES , AND WELL EDUCATED INDIVIDUALS , MANAGED TO SO FOUL THINGS UP. THE ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF SHARES THEY WERE AWARDED , WOULD SEEM TO HAVE BEEN ENOUGH INCENTIVE, BUT THE SHORT RESTRICTION PERIODS, SEEMED TO HAVE THE OPPOSITE EFFEECT AND THEY BAILED WHEN THINGS DID NOT GET BETTER OR GO WELL. THEY WERE STILL ABLE TO KEEP THEIR SHARES AND SUBSEQUENTLY SOLD AND DROVE ANOTHER NAIL INTO THE BOX. I WISH I WAS ALLOWED TO HAVE BEEN ON THAT CANDY TRAIN. I GAURANTEE YOU, I WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE DILIGENT AND SUCCESSFUL.
I PERSONALLY THINK THAT KERR AKA 'LASER' HAS ALMOST SINGLE HANDEDLY DONE MORE TO DISCOURAGE POTENTIAL INVESTORS FROM INVESTING IN EXOBOX . UNFORTUNATELY HIS MOTIVATIONS ARE UNKNOWN AND HE CONTINUES TO HARANGUE THE CEO 'JACK' AND ANY ATTEMPT TO BRING THIS TO A POSITIVE CONCLUSION. IT TRULY IS SITUATION WHERE LASER HAS HAD LOTS OF AMMUNITION TO WORK WITH BUT GIVE IT A REST AND LET'S SEE IF JACK HAS ANYTHING UP HIS SLEEVE.
THIS WHOLE MESS IS QUESTIONABLE, WHY MAKE A DEMAND FOR PAYMENT WHEN YOU KNOW IT IS BARELY BREATHING. WHY NOT EXTEND THE NOTE FOR 90 DAYS. YOU'RE SO FAR BACK IN LINE TO GET ANYTHING TO LIEN ON.
VERY QUIET , NO POSTINGS> DOES ANYBODY KNOW SOMETHING THEY CAN SHARE?
THE SEAS ARE CALM, NO POSTINGS, THE TIDE IS BEING SUCKED OUT, IN PREPARATION FOR THE TIDAL WAVE OR SUNAMI TO COME . WILL THIS HAPPEN TODAY OR MONDAY THE 15TH. WILL IT BRING RICHES FROM THE BOTTOM OR DEVESTATION AND ERADICATION FOR EXOBOX.
APPARENTLY THERE WAS NO GENERAL DECISION ON CONTRIBUTING FUNDS, SO THAT THE 10K COULD BE FILED. HOPEFULLY, THE CEO, JACK WROTE THE CHECK. WHERE HE GOT THE FUNDS , I DON'T KNOW .
STILL NO RESOLVE!!!ALL THE RECENT POSTINGS SEEMS TO INDICATE THE POTENTIAL FOR THE SUEZ ,EXOBOX TECHNOLOGY. MIS-MANAGEMENT OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, HAS CRIPPLED THE POTENTIAL SUCCESS OF EXOBOX.. IF THE PATENT IS SOLID AND THE POTENTIAL FOR THE PRODUCT IS SWTILL VIABLE , WE SHOULD TRY TO DO SOMETHING..
I KNOW I'M VERY TIRED TOO!!!
I DOUBT SERIOUSLY THAT THERE IS A DEAL, KAMPA IS TRYING TO NOT SPEND THE 650,000 FOR A NO ASSET ENTITY AND ACQUIRE IT WITH THE BOGUS LIEN
MY OFFER IS STILL ON THE TABLE, SO IS RAT'S. IT SEEMS AS IF THERE IS NO MONEY FOR THE 10K, VERY SAD AFTER ALL THE MONEY OTHERS ARE SAYING X WENT THROUGH . I KNOW I BOUGHT 100,000 SHARES LAST MAY/JUNE FROM A CEO AND MADE THE CHECKS OUT TO HIM. THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR EXOBOX BUT IT SEEMS IT MAY NOT HAVE MADE THE JOURNEY, I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE BUT !!!
DO WE GIVE UP NOW!!! YES WE HAVE BEEN ABUSED REPEATEDLY, DO WE NOW ROLL OVER TOO? HONESTLY I DON'T KNOW IF ITS WORTH ANYTHING. MAYBE CUT CAN GET AN OPINION FROM SCOTT , IF THERE IS HOPE OF CODING OR IF THE TECHNOLOGY AND PATENT HAVE BECOME DATED.
IF ITS OLD NEWS , THAT'S SAD , BUT IF IT IS STILL VIABLE, A LITTLE CONTRIBUTION FROM AS MANY OF US AS POSSIBLE AND PUTTING A DOG IN CHARGE(POSSIBLY STAYING WITH JACK) BUT NOT A FOX TO GAURD THE CHICKENS. SOMEBODY LIKE JACK WOULD NEED TO WORK ON A CONTINGENCY BASIS WITH JUST APPROVED EXPENCES. WOULD NEED SOME SORT OF BOARD, BUSINESS PEOPLE NOT A BUNCH OF ATTORNEYS.
JUST THINKING OUT LOUD ON THIS STUPID POSTINGS!!!
WELL!!!THAT MAKES ME FEEL LOTS BETTER. BETWEEN YOU AND LASER THIS COMPANY IS TOAST. WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN MR. WONDERFUL???
WHY DID YOU YOU SAVE ALL THE SWEET WORDS ? DAMMIT CUT !! DID YOU KNOW THIS AND JUST COULDN'T TELL US ? THIS WHOLE MESS IS WORSE THAN A SOAP OPERA. IS THERE ANY TRUTH TO ANYTHING OR IS IT ALWAYS SMOKE AND MIRRORS? DO WE DO WHAT REDSNAPPER SUGGESTS , PUMP AND DUMP SOUNDS NASTY TO ME!!! STICK THIS BABY ON SOMEBODY ELSE, THAT'S THE AMERICAN WAY !!! GET OUT WITH YOUR TOUPEE INTACT. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED A HEMROIDECTOMY TO SAVE US FROM THE RECTALPUPILITIS THAT THE SHAREHOLDERS , THAT'S ME, SUFFER FROM.
CALM SEAS, HA HA!!!
PLEASE DO NOT REMOVE, THERE IS NOTHING HERE WORTH REMOVING
DEAR RAT,
I WILL CONTRIBUTE $500 IF THERE ARE OTHERS, AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE CAN RAISE $10000. HOPEFULLY IT WILL BUY US 3 MONTHS FOR MR. JACK TO RESOLVE ANY CLAIMS AGAINST X , DO WE HAVE ANY ASSURANCE THAT MR. JACK WILL STAY ON? HE SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN AN UNDERSTANDING OF EXOBOX BY NOW . CUT SAYS SCOTT WILL WORK WITH HIM. I KNOW YOUR A FAN OF LASER , BUT SCOTT IS THE MAGIC MAN AND IF HE HAS OTHER PERSONAL PATENTS UP HIS SLEEVES THAT WOULD BE NICE, ALTHOUGH I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT HE SOLD HIS SOUL TO THE X ALREADY, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT AGREEMENTS HE HAS.
CALM
THE PREVIOUS POST WAS NOT ADDRESSED TO THE CEO OF EXOBOX, BUT TO THE GENERAL SHAREHOLDERS
CALM
THE LAWSUIT THAT HAS BEEN FILED, I ASSUME HAS BEEN FILED AGAINST THE DIRECTORS AND DIRECTORS INSURANCE. THIS IS A CLASS ACTION SUIT ON BEHALF OF THE SHARE HOLDERS, CORRECT. I THINK I READ OR HEARD SOMEPLACE THAT IT WAS FOR 5 MILLION DOLLARS, NOT MUCH WILL BE LEFT AFTER LEGAL EXPENCES ARE DEDUCTED, BUT PROBABLY A LITTLE TO GO AROUND!!!
PUTTING ASIDE ALL THE VITRIOL AND ANGST, THIS IS NOT THE TITANIC, WE HAVE SOME ISSUES TO THINK AND ATTEMPT TO DEAL WITH.
I WOULD SPECULATE FROM WHAT I HAVE HEARD AND READ HERE, THAT THE LIKELIHOOD OF MR. JACK HAVING THE RESOURCES TO TO FILE THE THE 10K ARE UNLIKELY. NOT TO POINT AN ACCUSATORY FINGER AT LASER, BUT OTHER THAN OUR ILLUSTRIOUS PREVIOUS CEOS LASER WAS CLOSEST TO THE KAMPA DEAL AND OTHER CEOS IN ATTEMPTING TO RESOLVE THE SUCCESS OR FAILURE OF EXOBOX. MUCH OF WHAT HE WAS DOING WAS TRYING TO GET HIS LAWSUITS RESOLVED, BUT HE WAS INVOLVED INTO SEPTEMBER /OCTOBER, AND WAS A CONSULTANT UNTIL HE NO LONGER COULD BE.. I AM SURE HE IS OBLIGATED TO SOME LEVEL OF CONFIDENTIALITY, BUT LET'S PUT THESE QUESTIONS OUT AND PERSONAL DIFFERENCES ASIDE AND ASK: IS THERE MONEY TO FILE THE 10K ?DID MR. JACK RECEIVE FUNDS TO DO THAT OR WAS IT THE 25,000 THAT KAMPA WAS SUPPOSED TO PUT UP? IT SEEMS OBVIOUS THAT KAMPA IS NO FOOL AND BAITED THE HOOK WITH THE PLOY OF THE 3% DEAL, BUT I AM SURE THE DEVIL WAS IN THE FINE PRINT,AND PROBABLY STALLED TO THE LAST DAY. I WOULD SPECULATE THAT WHY PAY FOR SOMETHING WHEN YOU COULD WAIT FOR IT TO IMPLODE ON ITS OWN. HE WOULD JUST STEP IN AND PROFFER HIS LIEN ,FORECLOSE AND ATTEMPT TO BUY IT FROM THE COURT FOR ZIP.
THE WHOLE PREMISE OF THIS LIEN IS SO BOGUS , IN THE CEO AGREMENTS I WOULD IMAGINE THAT IT FORBADE CEOS , AND BODS FROM CAPITALIZING ON INSIDE INFORMATION AND EXERCISING LIENS ON PROPRIETARY TECHNOLOGY, ALL OF WHICH WAS DONE AND HIS LIENS SHOULD BE THROWN OUT, EXCEPT IF IT WENT TO COURT IN HOUSTON, WHERE DILLON, SKIPPER, STUDDARD HAD THE ATTORNEYS AND JUDGES AS FRIENDS. I AM SURE LASER CAN ATTEST TO THIS. HE IS VERY ANGRY AT JACK , IT SEEMS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T AGREE. IT SEEMS LASER IS A LITTLE BIT OF A CONTROL FREAK AND WANTED THINKS DIFFERENTLY ,I AM SURE.
ALL THIS ASIDE WHAT DO WE DO? THE BABY IS GOING DOWN THE DRAIN WITH THE BATH WATER, KAMPA IS PROBABLY GOING TO STEAL IT IN THE NEAR FUTURE. WHAT ARE THE SHAREHOLDERS GOING TO DO? IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO? DO WE TRY TO RAISE MONEY FOR THE 10K AND ANYTHING ELSE. IS THE TECHNOLOGY AND PATENTS WORTH ANYTHING.? WE ALL HAVE A LOT OF MONEY IN EXOBOX, ITS NOT WORTH SELLING AT POINT .0015, THAT'S A 150.00 FOR EVERY 100,000 SHARES LESS COMMISSIONS. IF IS OLD ALL MY SHARES THAT WOULD PROBABLY AMOUNT TO LESS THAN 4000.00 , AND WHO IS GOING TO BUY THEM.
LET'S PUT ASIDE OUR DISGUST AND FRUSTRATION , AND IF SOME ONE KNOWS MR.JACK , MAYBE HE SHOULD BE CONTACTED , SINCE HE IS PRECLUDED FROM SOLICITING FROM THE SHAREHOLDERS. AFTER THE 15TH ITS ALL MOOT, DELISTED WITH NO HOPE OF MONEY TO RESSURRECT!!!
WELL THAANKS FOR THE INFO, GUESS I WAS JUST ONE OF THE STOOGES, ALONG WITH 2200 HUNDRED OTHER SHAREHOLDER. QUE SERA!!!!
YOU KNOW MR . MUSK THAT MY POSTING WAS PULLED THAT YOU ARE RESPONDING TO "CENSORSHIP". THERE WAS NO FOUL LANGUAGE NOTHING MORE THAN INTELLIGENT OBSERVATIONS. ITS OBVIOUS THERE IS A CORE GROUP THAT DEFENDS AND PROTECTS THEIR OWN . THE BIG QUESTION I THINK WE SHOULD GET AN ANSWER TO . IS WHY STODDARD CEO HANDED OVER THE REINS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE KAMPA DEAL. WHY MR . JACK ACCEPTED THAT POSITION AND THE RESPONSIBILITIES.
I THINK JACK MUST HAVE A MASOCHISTIC TENDENCY . THE TRASH THAT HAS BEEN PILED ON HIM IS BOTH RUDE AND OFFENSIVE. IT IS THE PREVIOUS CEO AND FOUNDING FATHERS AND INVESTORS WHO HAVE BAILED AND LEFT 20 BOXES IN THE TRUST OF JACK.. SOUNDS A LITTLE CAVALIER, IN THE MIDST OF THE ONLY AND BIGGEST OPPORTUNITY EXOBOX HAS. WHERE DID IT GO AND WHO BLEW IT OFF , EXOBOX OR KAMPA. WAS THE FINE PRINT TO EXCESSIVE AND KAMPA WAS GETTING THE BABY AND THE BATHWATER.
I HAVE UNFORTUNATELY PUT MY MONEY INTO THIS COMPANY, ON THE HOPE THAT THE STRUGGLING REVOLVING CEOS THEIR UNDAUNTING OPTIMISM, THE POSTS OF CUT AND OTHERS. KEVIN REGANS SHOW AT ZAZA AND THE PRESENTATIONS. MY BIGGEST LOSS WAS WHEN I SOLD AT D DAY AND STUPIDLY BOUGHT BACK, CHEAP. I DON'T FAULT JACK FOR GETTING OUT AND I GUESS HE FEELS HE CAN BANDADE EXOBOX AND RECOVER HIS INVESTMENT AND MAYBE MAKE SOME . OTHERWISE WHY WOULD AND INTELLIGENT PERSON TAKE THE JOB , WHAT IS LEFT TO STEAL??
NO I WOULD NOT REINVEST AT THIS POINT, I HAVE BEEN BURNED BY WIRTZ, DILLON , REGAN AND NO OFFENSE TO JACK BUT I NEED TO SEE MORE THAN A WARM AND FUZZY !!!!
I AGREE!!!
WELL ITS REFRESHING TO FINALLY HEAR WHAT LASER THINKS. HE HAS BEEN A NEGATIVE VOICE, HE HAS SWITCHED OPINIONS ,FLIP/FLOPPED , SO MANY TIMES, SOUNDS LIKE A SORELOSER.
IT REALLY STINKS THAT THE INFO HE HAD AND RAT HAD WAS NOT SHARED.
I AM TOTALLY DISMAYED BY WHAT CUT CLAIMS TO NOT KNOW. HE IS PRACTICALLY FAMILY WITH SCOTT. IT SEEMS INSIDER IS ONLY A TERM USED TO KEEP US MULLETS OUT OF THE LOOP. WE'RE SUPPOSE TO TAKE OUR LOSSES ON THE CHIN, BULL PUCKEY. I EMAIL-ED MR. JACK AND HE RESPONDED, NOTHING ILLUMINATING, BUT RESPONDED. SEEMS TO MOVE AROUND A -LOT THOUGH!!!
WHATEVER HAPPENS , I PERSONALLY FEEL THAT WITHOUT LASEER'S POSTINGS AND WHINNING WILL BE BETTER OFF. I HAVE TRIED TO BE THE GADFLY TO ILLICIT INFO , TO VERY LITTLE AVAIL. MY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN TO THE POINT AND REFLECTED ONLY CONCERNS THAT I BELIEVED EVERYBODY HAS.
I SINCERELY HOPE MR. JACK IS CAPABLE , HE SEEMS SINCERE IN WANTING IT TO SUCCEED AND APPARENTLY HAS BEEN INVOLVED FOR YEARS.
2 things , i can't contain my euploria with the jump in pps.
2nd i am going to back off the postings , so please don't get all weepy about it.
i believe everyone has shared some thoughts and personal feelings. were all in lifeboats , the seas are calm, maybe will escape the sunami .
calm
WELL THANKS FOR THE FURTHER INFORMATION!!!
IT STILL STRANGE THAT SOME ARE STILL THINKING TO BUY MORE IF THEY HAD THE LOOSE CHANGE. OTHERS HAVE WRITTEN IT OFF , BUT ARE STILL HOPING AND WISHING.
MY MISTAKE WAS BUYING THE DEALS FOR THE WARRANTS AND CONVERTING PREMATURLY
I WAS FRIENDLY ENOUGH WITH THE INNER SANCTUM AND GOT ALL THE DEMONSTRATIONS IN THE OFFICE AT THE BEAUTIFUL CONFERENCE TABLE WITH THE BIG SCREEN ETC. I HAD SET AN AMOUNT OF SHARES I WANTED AND BOUGHT DEALS AT .10CENTS / AND EXCHANGED FOR WARRANTS A.03 CENTS/. IT ADDED UP OVERTIME AND THEN THE CRASH AND SELL-OFF AND THEN THE BUY BACK WHEN IT CAME TO LIFE AGAIN.
DAMM IT JUST HAPPENED AND HERE I AM. I CAN ABSORB THE LOSS BUT I DON'T WANT THE LOSS , I WANT SUCCESS AND A DECENT PPS.
WHAT CAN I SAY I DID IT WITH MY EYES OPEN, BUT THEREE WERE THINGS GOING ON, THAT'S WHY I FEEL SCAMMED BY PEOPLE WHO WERE SELLING WATERFRONT PROPERTY IN THE DESERT.
SAD BUT TRUE!!!!BUT IF SOME OF MY QUESTIONS WHICH SEEM GENERIC ENOUGH COULD BE ANSWERED, EVEN A LITTLE BIT, IS THE DEAL DEAD ?IS ANYTHING IN THE WORKS(DON' HAVE TO MENTION ANY NAMES).?
THE ONLY THING WE SEEM TO KNOW IS WE HAVE A NEW CEO, XOBOX MOVED ITS 20 FILE BOXES TO HIS OFFICE, THAT OCTOBER 15TH ,HAS COME AND GONE. WE DON'T KNOW IF KAMPA GOT THE PATENTS THROUGH FORECLOSUR,IF SO XOBOX DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING EXCEPT LAWSUITS FOR MONIES OWED. DOES XOBOX HAVE THE MONEY NECESSARY FOR FILINGS? IS IT GOING TO BE DE-LISTED. I THINK SHAREHOLDERS ARE ENTITLED TO THIS INFORMATION....
WHY CAN'T WE FIND OUT MORE !!!
CALM
i am pleased that i have illicited some responces, thankyou!!i still would like to know if X is going forward or sideways ,i don't think that is too much to want. is X viable, is there any reason to keep watching the activity.some of your postings give a hint of optimism or am i reading into it?
thanks again for the feedback!! i am trying to be calm !!!
what extremely sound advice!!! all of sudden the company is going to play by rules and etiquette. this company has only filed reports when absolutely necessary , otherwise it has been run like a personal piggy bank ,buy others , wheee whhee all the way home. what good are pr 's when there is no fact or follow-up.its the pr's that have bs=-ed and sucked us suckers along. i think that's where the line gets confused between fact and scamming.
how is the box a valid entity when it couldn't hire a ceo, nobody wants to take its stock in lieu of salary. many of us never heard of mr jack cuhiujai? the company was moved to his office,and by the bye he doesn't pick up his e-mails nor exobox.
your defense of ,i guess, your friends is admirable but who is profiting from the knowledge. all that needs to be said is "we've not been foreclosed and are negotiating with kampa's group and symantiic for the best deal" i would think some release like that would keep the dogs at bay.
i have no valid idea what't going on and have more than likely lost everything and paid taxes on the money i used to buy this worthlessness ,but you want me to be patient and polite while i get a colonoscopy and someone or persons are still picking the bones.
your standing to close to the grass, cut.
love, calm
dear cut i think your motivations are questionable, how can you be so close to the barn and not think that the aromas doesn't stick to you.do you really believe that the kampa deal is viable and that you don't know anything. there are less than a dozen people close enough to know what's going on. i asked this question when mr jack was made ceo and wirtz and skipper left and was told that dillon contibuted over a million dollars of billable time to Exobox and you really want us to believe that mr.jack and crew who were appointed suddenly in the midst of this most signifigant deal are responsible for it successful conclusion or demise, duh!!! nothing like being given the honor of falling on one's sword, HARI KARI I BELIEVE ITS CALLED.
why are we being kept in th dark, if the deal is still be worked out,say so. if not bar the door katie unless there is someone else out there and that's why someone is buying.
there has been and is a lot of shenanigans going on. am i to sell out and then you announce something stupendous or go down to the wire. i have lost most of my money and the little to be gained by selling or dumping the balance is not worth the cost of commissions.
so to summarize this is a very bad deal with no light at the end of the tunnel except for the speeding train comming
SO THANKS ALOT !!!!
there is so much information that you gentlemen provided today!!
but i have issue with it:
if scott sold stock along the way for whatever reason, no matter how noble, and was acting chairman or on the board , that could be considered insider trading, it was the fact that he received an excessive amount of shares for a basically non-marketable product and even though he sold and loaned money back to exobox,it kept devaluing the pps.
kampa came over to a basically defunct company and was suppoased to have millions in financing available, but what took place, was there was no financing,took his contracted salary and when there was no blood left to drain he took a lien on the patents and product. i guess that was pretty egregious,and now has held those liens over the company's head. what happened to the deal??where did that go and no mention or explanation to us shareholders, but your going to act like what was done by yourselves when it seemed right and you were trying to motivate!!! WAS OKAY
people were always making deals to sell large blocks of stock and not weakened the pps , well goody for them and those that acquiesed, very unselfish and highly honarable, ha ha!!
the information provided was the first i learned and i am sure many others ,too.
does dillon and wirtz still have the shares they were given, i would guess not.
its great that everyone close to the corpus were able to divey up the parts.
insider trading and what they were doing is supposed to protect us, not give a selected wicket the authority to bail out aqnd let the rest of us flounder.
it is really insulting for you or the inner sanctumm to challenge my motivations.
i have been looking for answers and am finally getting somw.
PS I STILL DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE KAMPA DEAL, THE BIG SECRET!!!
sorry to have misled you. another investor was bonding with him and deceived himself into thinking there was a trustworthy relationship and was investing into exobox under the false impression that there was gold in them hills, and i tripped and stumbled into the same cow flop next to him. sad part is i thought i was smart. it all looked and smelled good. i don't know what good it would do to attempt to get in touch with mr. jack, he won't pass along any insider info. there does need to be some forth rightness at this point, is the XXX comatose, will there be a final attempt at resusatation, or was it kampa's plan to drag this out and steal the patents. investing a few thousand dollars into the stock and keeping the momentum going could be a clever ploy. i'm so bummed out, there were so many people along the way that i never thought that copelands' family and close relatives and friends would get shafted, i don't think scott came out to good considering that he had close to 80 thousand shares , he lost the house he was building and the respect of a lot of friends and family, he was a believer that he invented gravity, i guess!!!!!
A follow up to my previous post. my questions are not mean spirited, they are questions that i believe everyone would like answers to.
when laser and others were lambasting the company's officers,why didn't someone reach out and clear things up then. all the negative feedback ,hurt the pps, but no one showed laser the appropriate paper work that brought him a different perspective.
the Kampa deal was a result of . that he had liens on the patents. one million dollars was going to be paid ,with a credit of 350,000$ for release of the lien 25,000 for filing fees? and the balance to pay off other lawsuits and having a clean balance to work with. mr.jack was appointed new ceo and the cto was going to stay on.
well what's the story did kampa get the patent? did he foreclose on the lien, which was made while he was ceo, pretty slick and no board at the time. i know i am not benefiting, so mr. cut , AFRONT YOURSELF AND GET YOURSELF AND THE OLD CLIQUE AND NEW CEO TO TELL US WHAT'S UP !!!!
thankyou.
i am sorry my comments are coming across as whinning . i am down close to HALF A MILLION DOLLARS, I have been involved for a few years and erroneously listened to the hyperbole and read the promo material about SUEZ, watched the demonstrations and looked at the charts ,believed that it was demonstrated successfully to the NSA,that there were multiple patents, that all the different WHITE PAPERS and GARDNERS picking it as a company to watch and recommended it to its 1000's of customers. it has been like being in a room of mirrors at a carnival. so yes, i would like to know what is going on!!!! this latest DOCTOR KAMPA DEAL came and apparently went with the 15th being last week. what has and what is the plan is IT just to continually dupe the rest of us into holding on ,while those few are selling their shares at such low prices inorder to recover anything.
why can't we know what's going on , unless its what i speculate, just to keep us hanging on. it doesn't make sense for me to sell at a quarter of a penny, but i guess if you got the stock for free its something. how does one get in touch with MR.JACK?and am i to believe he will answer and be candid? right !!!does any one have a bridge they want to unload???
what's an affront is that you don't consider someone who wants to sell or dump has to have some one who is going to buy at the sell price, money just doesn't mysteriously appear to take the sell offer off the market. if some mysterious person didn't buy the sell the stock would totally crash. i kinow your sophisticated, but jeez why do you annd the others refused to accept the conceppt ,you can't sell your stock unless there is a buyer at the sell or reduced price. so the question remains who is stooopid enough to buy and why? what happened to the kampa deal, is it dead? what's left of exobox? besides th 20 file boxes.
i am so angry that i could scream !!!! my money has been philandered, my expectations trashed , and your telling me there just moving aqnother block of shares. who is moving, some of you know much more than the rest of us suckers. if it comes to pass that there is a SCAM and we've been scammed again with only 2 patents and those recently i will definitely look for sec violations. i invested alot of money for someone to lose it so cavalierly
THIS IS TRULY CONFUSING, THE DUMPERS AND THE BUYERS. WHAT IS GOING ON? THIS IS THE MOST UNORTHODOX WAY FOR A COMPANY TO BE RUN EVEN AS CONVOLUTED AS XXX IS . A GAZILLION AMOUNT OF SHARES OUT THERE AND THE TUR NOVER IS MODEST, YET THERE APPEARS TO BE SOME OPTIMISM ,1.5 MIL, HALF ARE BUYING THE OTHER HALF DUMPING, WHAT'S GOING ON'CUT', ' LASER'. YOU GUYS ARE IN THE FRONT ROW. LASER YOU HAD TO BE TOLD SOMETHING YOUR LIPS HAVE BEEN SEALED SINCED YOUR MAJOR K.A 'CUT' YOUR ALMOST FOLKS WITH THE FAMILY , ARE THEY ALL TAKING THIS ON THE CHIN. A LOT OF MONEY BEING LOST CAN'T BELIEVE THEY'LL EVER SEE IT.
WELL ,IT LOOKS LIKE WE WERE SCAMMED, NO PR YET 3;00 OCTOBER 15TH. I GUESS WHEN YOU HAVE A BUNCH INVESTORS WHO ARE DESPERATE FOR SOME NEWS, EVEN AS SHABBY AS THE KAMPA DEAL, YOU GRAB AT STRAWS. BUT APPARENTLY THOSE WHO KNEW IT WAS NOT GOING TO TAKE PLACE, FOOLED US INTO THINKING IT WOULD AND AS THEY WERE DUMPING SOMEBODY WAS BUYING , OPTIMISTS , OR JUST PLAIN DESPERATE IN TRYING TO HOPE THEY WOULD GET SOME MONEY BACK.
I HAVE TO BE CAREFUL HOW I PHRASE THINGS OR MY MESSAGE WILL BE BUMPED.
BUT IF IT WAS A SCAM I FOR ONE THINK WE SHOULD GO TO THE SEC AND TELL THEM OF THE SHENNANIGANS PERPETRATED ON THE SHAREHODERS. IF THE DEAL WENT SOUTH, WHO AND WHEN KNEW ON THE INSIDE AND TOOK ADVANTAGE. IF BY SOME WEIRD CHANCE IT IS STILL THERE AND THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY OF A PR RELEASE YET TO- DAY, I WILL BE , I DON'T KNOW WHAT , ITS SUCH A POOR DEAL, BUT AN OPPORTUNITY!!
Where is everybody? no messages or is everyone to buzy crossing fingers/toes, holding their breath ? to day is the 15th the " IDES OF OCTOBER" will the new CEO make a PR statement, did the KAMPA deal implode?
i am a wreck it looks like the tide is being sucked out . does that mean a tidal wave of good things or the SUNAMI is coming ?
i would like to know !! if all the old -ceos and employees have left and only the new ceo is there with the 20 boxes of history,who has the responsibility on the kampa deal? or did i miss something that it has been concluded or cancelled? seemss like a wierd time for the whole exobox staff to resign and put this in a new ceo's lap. does he get the money, that's a lot of money, is he that trustworthy ? he will have the responsibility to negotiate and pay the lawsuits off. it all seems so unorthodox the way they are doing this. has the patents been transferred , tomarrow is the 15th and no messaging, laser took his comments , cut above has stopped contributing.
i definitely am skeptical about all this. i have or had a lot of money invested here. i wasn't planning on losing it all.
yeah! really doubling your 100000 share purchase @.003 which will cost 300.00 and it going to .0006 which will net you lessthan 600.00 after commissions . a good way to plan for retirement. something has got to be better for some one to be accummulating all the sells/dumps.
Well there appears to be 2 sides the ones who are grabbing the last few dollars and some grossly over optimistic who are expecting the PR to move the stock up to the penny range and double their pennies. if you add up all the sells and conversely the buys a signifant amount of pennies is changing pockets.
I understand how the market works ,have made and lost my share!!!
The question i am posing , if no one needs the money and buying 100,000s of exobox stock is what they do to get their jolleys, with no known rainbow, except for Kampa's deal, i would like to think that they are expecting the stock price to rise. that would suit me fine, but if those persons or individual are just "betting" that it is going to go up, I hope they are right!!
if the same insiders,10-15 of them are lining their pockets with quiet inside info, i think that is typical of previous friendship deals. the rest of us dummies 101 are still getting the drain.
Thanks for your opinion, makes some sense.
Sorry about the caps, I have gotten in the habit of not worrying about caps at the typical junctures. I just pound thru, and add a comma or a period. If I should do it in caps ,just slap me, no disrespect intended.
It still does not answer the question , you can dump/sell, but someone has to be buying at the ask price or the price would be minus zero,and a total delisting would take place.So for some reason ttttttttttttttthere is someone or entity out there accumulating. That''s what bothers me where the dump is going.
I have been involved with X for several years, don't know anyone in particular, but was greedy enough to think and believe the baloney that there were patents in place ,SUEZ was more than a concept with pretty charts and handout.
yes there was terrible "un" intentional mis management and excessive optimism in the hype the crew was putting out, but it has settled down to only acouple of patents and they are recent.
The long and short of it is, I have 3 million shares at all prices and they ain't worth horse-puckey.
I will hang but someone is positioning themselves for profit,I just hope we all get a piece of the cup-cake and less of the puckey.
I'M CALM