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Nope, it's got nothing to do with 780G, but MB components and design.
chipguy - I think you surmise correctly.
cg - Congrats to IPF, then - I didn't realize they'd come that far.
chipguy - And what is the actual market share breakdown?
jokerman - Evan that(533MHz RAM) is faster than disk access/throughput. Loading an entire database in memory would make a big difference in responsiveness.
wbmw - It's ahead of the last schedule, that's all. Or maybe ahead of their "doomsday" schedule, who knows?
sheriff - It's possible AMD may get more %-wise, since their 65nm process has been so weak, while Intel's was strong. I'm not making any predictions, just noting that their starting comparison point is lower.
smooth - Not sure what you're referring to. My post was in response to a post about Phenom weak core issues.
mas - Interesting. Sucks for now, but interesting.
Elmer - More reading comprehension or retention apparently. Quoting the article(emphasis mine):
On Barcelona:
Engineering samples of the new B3 silicon, which fixes the TLB bug in silicon so that there's no performance hit, already are in the hands of some key AMD OEMs. This means Tier 1 server vendors.
First instance - some key AMD OEMs
Further qualifications - Tier 1
Elmer - He further qualified them as Tier1 OEMs, not just key OEMs. And since B3 is a new stepping, no, the samples aren't the same as existing production B2 silicon.
DoU - Are you totally clueless, or just unwilling to follow the thread back and read the article? The OEMs have the samples for verification. Reviewers don't yet, and probably won't until full production, though a few may slip out beforehand.
Elmer - Because I don't expect reviews until there is production silicon, which requires full production. I might look for "previews" if it's a new architecture, but that isn't the case here.
Elmer - re: "not even any samples" - reading challenged?
On Barcelona:
Engineering samples of the new B3 silicon, which fixes the TLB bug in silicon so that there's no performance hit, already are in the hands of some key AMD OEMs. This means Tier 1 server vendors.
What, you expect reviews of a chip a quarter or two before it's in full production? Right, you'd get it then immediately scream paper launch.
smooth - Your work?
wbmw - re: Gen2 - Of course, when it actually may pan out is a whole different story...
wbmw - Did you read the story I linked?
"...The Z-RAM is built in a PD SOI technology, and the Gen2 approach is compatible with either PD or fully depleted (FD) SOI. It requires no additional processing steps, and can be tuned to perform for speed or density, Okhonin said. It also has been demonstrated to work in the multi-gate finFET devices.
Advanced Micro Devices Inc. (AMD, Sunnyvale, Calif.) was ISI’s first licensee, with an announced goal of using it in a logic technology to form L3 cache on AMD’s microprocessors. AMD also took a license for the Gen2 technology...{/i}
gb - Not exactly. Gen2 may pan out.
http://www.semiconductor.net/article/CA6512566.html?nid=3351&rid=868738879
3870X2 "Crossfire" scaling not bad. 39-98%, most above 55-60%.
http://www.pcpop.com/doc/App/261181/000689724.html
Interesting scaling test and hypotheses:
http://connexitor.com/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=191
http://aceshardware.freeforums.org/viewtopic.php?p=4589#4589
Related to these folks:
http://www.symas.com/
wbmw- Yup, you've got a valid point there.
K N - Just curious - why would you choose such an incredibly offensive username?
mas - And we read that days ago.
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/11/30/phenoms-feature-infamous-l3
But don't expect jay to mention that.
mas, jay - Not to mention that Anand is probably taking OC headroom into account. In normal user OEM desktops, it'd be plenty competitive.
drjohn - Did you even read it?
"...we tested at a relatively low resolution of 1024x768 in order to prevent the GPU from becoming the main limiter of performance."
After all, it's a CPU article, not a GPU article.
chipguy - Did I say that? No - but you knew that when you wrote your snide little comment.
smooth, I'm biding my time. In no hurry to get back into the market now. I'll wait for the right opportunity.
How like you to overlook the reason it knocked Intel back on its heels. Entry and great success in the server market, dominance in the consumer enthusiast and HPC markets, and temporarily,though fitfully, profits while boosting their capabilities in a field requiring very high fixed costs.
Knocking Intel on its heels was not the main accomplishment, but it was nice to see it happen to a company sucking billions out of customers for only marginal improvements. If it weren't for AMD's competition, you know darn well C2D and C2Q would not exist.
Elmer - What, you mean like knocking the biggest semiconductor designer/manufacturer in the world, that's 10 times AMD's size back on its heels for a few years?
I will grant you they have squandered many opportunities and won't defend that, but on the other hand, in many ways, they've accomplished a lot with very little.
smooth - I needed the money and had to sell back in July-Aug. Made about 50% on it. Not as much as if I'd sold back in Feb '06, of course, but them's the breaks. I was hopeful they'd get K10 right, but such is life.
Elmer - I hope you'll apply that same standard to Intel.
Elmer - re: "Oh, what a glorious day!"
You really are quite pathetic, you know.
Tiger64 - re: Crossfire - ?
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3151&p=10
spaarky - NOT. Apparently you haven't followed AMD's post CC stock performance for long. It generally bears no relation to the facts. Often the results are counterintuitive. In this case, it's more sensible, which in counter to what often, maybe even usually, happens.
mas - Interesting.
imho - I don't honestly recall if I've ever used "Itanic", I don't think so(I think IPF is more likely), but there are some names that have become part of the IT world vernacular and are almost unavoidable. "Itanic" isn't so much belittling as a recognition of it's falling short of where Intel wanted it to be. Watch out here comes chipguy, I'm sure.
In any case, "Itanic" is hardly in the same league as the belittling and often disgusting, crass names I've often heard Elmer and PE, et al, come up with for AMD chips, which I won't stoop to repeat here.
Elmer - Pulling the rug out from under your own feet again?
imho - By many adolescents, maybe. I haven't supported belittling names for Intel products, and I don't for AMD products either.
Wouter - It may be it'll be determined by what developers and programmers choose to support. Only time will tell on that.