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Hi poorme , I must repeat it again and again .... do not forget this lausy theatre for the world famous state of the art cold fill fascillity which will generate 150k $ for an 8 hours shift as soooo many competitors need it sooooo urgently , hahahahah , converting a furniture store from the late 80ies I believe , into a state of the art fascillity , bought for little money from these 38O k compensation , and rent it to CVM / shareholders for freaking money ...without need ... thats what I cold a lisence to earn money ... gues who payed the installation from that furniture store ? ,,,wait till the flue season comes ...ohh we will see how L.E.A.P.S shoots through the roof ggggggg))))))) John Hopkins ...anyone remebers that ???? gggggg))))))
Cheers guys , BG
Hi Smitter , read your info reg . genta , which you have sticked ... I was fortunate to make some bucks .... so I will now come back more frenquently to look if something changed in order to pull the trigger ... waiting your " go " ... wish us all the best . Sorry that I posted it here , to keep it away from the interest to avoid any bla bla .
Cheers mate BG
...not to mention all the contracts for cold filling !
BG
Hi Vawedo dear friend , I owe you 2 bottles of Margaux ))) ...as we agreed . The ASCO pump did not come up ...so you were right and I was wrong. Just come back home from Buapest from TTM.So I officially declare that you won the bet with your prediction - and I DID NOT ! ( hopefully noone here calls me now a basher LOL )! Send me your adress via skype my friend , I deliever at once !
Cheers , BG
))) , well, due to dillution , there are enough of them ))
BG
dont know who I more apreaciate it to drink that angel stuff )))) , but !! ...its over when its over my dear , enjoy your time in turkey ))))
regards to your wife ))
BG
Lets hope so , or Vawedo recieves 2 Bottles of Margaux , 1986 , rare selection ))))
BG
Vawedo - dear friend . The ASCO effect regarding genta is not so much the prereleased abstracts ... Ray would use the audience to hype the mysterical OS from AGENDA or ATG ..we havent heard from both any rumors .... thats what I mean with ASCO effect ...and yes ))) the Margaux is still stored dark and cool ( as you adviced me ) hehehehe
Cheers my friend - its over when its over ! I stick to my word - no worries )))
BG
Ryjo , I am totally aware of that . May take has simply nothing to do with charts , DD or whatsoever . It is a plain speculation. From ten times the fox used 5 times the way throu the bushes and 5 times over the field . So , I wait him between the bushes with good sight over the fields. And that guaranties me nothing. I only know this fox is around - where ? I honestly cant tell you . It is simply a repeated habit from ray to use the ASCO for hyping his fluff news - and I think its an oportunity. We will see soon .
Cheers, BG
Hi mate , I somewhat agree with you , that anything lower than 0.05 is beginning to be interesting. My take of the ASCO flip - if there is any - is the fact that Ray very often used such events to hype the pps . I think that at the moment a real solid DD doesnt bring you much further . It is more the Ray strategy to spread fluff news ( for the purpose to sell the diluted shares on a better pps ) . Taking this in account it could bring some profit. But I agree with smitter that the dilution will bring pps down to some 0.03 area . The only thing what keeps me away from believing in a pps lower than 0.03 is that Ray can easy push the pps with " expected news about OS/Agenda " ...and usually he does that prior to big international exhibitions ( like the ASCO ) . So , I believe he will use the ASCO to hype one more time the pps - simply to get more shares on the market for better cash, because after ASCO he need more substantial things .... like news from the IMB .
Cheers, BG
yes , thats true ...its just that I am confident of the ASCO flip - but we will see . I will try my luck , so to say as a test balloon.
BG
Hi smitter , do you think we will see 0.04 or close to it this week ?
Cheers , BG
Nutri , you are right . But Tese is ready for real substantial results not earlier than end 2010 - rather mid 2011 .
But Ok , let us wait ...other happenings are expected earlier .
Good night , BG
Hi Nutri ,
I think noone seriously doubts that attacking the Bcl-2 Protein ( the covershield of the cancer cell against chemo ) is a promising path . It is also nice to see Genta named among the " big players " - but thats not enough as you and me and all other investors know. In simple words : We know that it works , but we dont know how to make it work in a bigger number of patients ( regarding PPS and OS ) . LDH range in patients is nothing else than a parameter for each patient to understand how worst his / hers situation is in comparison to future perspective on a successful medicamentation. Those with a high LDH ratio are still uncureable. Sad but true. Ray himself told this in a videoclip shortly before the leak came out ( I think it has been 2-3 weeks earlier prior to the leak ). So my take on that videoclip is that it is a fact that Genasense works .But the OS is the very last hope for the Agenda trial. Remember , april the 15th 2009 , the last patient in Agenda was enrolled, 168 days after 8 cycles this patient - and therefor Agenda dates could be counted down to be published . So even with the last patients trial infos we are now ( since September - 15th april + 168 days ) 8 month after the last patient regarding OS. The other 314 patients provided Agenda with even more mature dates. To make the long story short : IF ! 300 patients of Agenda finished their trial at march 2009 , the test results of these patients are older than 12 month AND Agenda would be automatically unblinded if 50% of Agenda patients would have past away.( that is my understanding from the Agenda / IMB management )
So , pretty soon there should be / could be some news .
Cheers, BG
Hi Mate , please do not forget one thing : At the moment - since last unblinding in September 2009 by the IMB of Agenda - the actual testresults of Agenda are not known (at least they should not be known other than by the IMB) . Ray himself published it that the Agenda trial shall continue to be a double blinded test as it has been in the past.
This is the only sure thing ,that till now , no recent infos are available regarding OS.
The positive finding is - in my opinion - that on the long term Agenda (demonstrated in this particular clip )showed some slight advantage in comparision to Dacarbacine alone.IF , one more time IF !! , these OS numbers are better than from the former study 301 ... than we have a better perspective .
Cheers , BG
Hi Nutri , a very impotant find regarding OS. Thank you for posting this !
Cheers , BG
Nutri ... you mean we have a chance to trade ray the rat against something more decent )) ?
BG
cbrad .... my comment to your post ( which lured me into public light ) was more directed in the way of post#41923 , you know the more sarcastic one ....uff went throu all the post beginning with 36000 ... I have to say it was quite impressing what the board had to offer and read the stuff from that time up again. Many posters arrived and went away .... who remembers THINKFISH ))) and STL Cardinals was virtually the first who came up with 0.031 pps - and amazingly stood with this . Now , we sooner or later have the oportunity to get ready for a retake of lost ground - meaning get our cash back .I will try the ASCO flip ...will say when and with how many shares I will try it . My reentry will be surely lower than 0.05 maybe ( if possible 0.04 ) - then hopefully make some plus , and kick them overboard during / after ASCO . Vawedo my dear friend , I keep you informed ! Meanwhile I will be busy with the maggots ))) - anyway fishingseason is open .
saludos cordiales
BG
ohhh ohhh , well we will see ))) as we say in germany : do not try to show an old clown how to make faces )))
Adios compadre , BG
.... "that I will become independantly wealthy, and can
retire someday on the millions of dollars that I will earn here"...
Cbrad hi buddy ...can`t resist )) but STL Cardinal ( still my favourite regarding ironic statements ) would say at this stage : WHAT ??? ...and this you gonna tell me now ??? ))) LOL
Cheers , BG
)))...and not only your point ))
Cheers BG
...not to mention the dropping sales the last three years of Ganite and that the patent expired and generic material would be available if there would be any need ... bla bla bla ... writer did not recieve money from the company ( Genta ) so what .... but from whom else hmmm ?
BG
Bundles ...you see , that is the way it works . That was a statement I - at least can understand - not that I " buy " it , but it is a solid point of few , why not earlier that way ... with all given respect ?
BG
dear friend , you found the right club ... here you find many " rollled over " fellow investors ... the point is that you get here the most recent infos , other than in other boards .
Check in , a place is available ))
BG
Hi Diana , you still have shares dating from the " 80s " after all the R/S we allready had ? ... wow .
Cheers, BG
bundles ... how do you react at 03.00 Am , even here in EU I could not sell , that fast was the drop ...held them , thought first to average down , got pissed and sld them later in autum ...finito .
But ok , I am sure you had your fun as well .
BG
yes cbrad , you are right , you have superior rights as a shareholder ... I am at present " an interested observer " without any shares / was happy to get rid of them @ about 0.17 or so ... made enough sh..ty losses.
N8 , BG
bundles , the fact is that at the moment there is not so much to say ( fast track means nothing ) so many companies have been fast tracked and didnt made it , PhaseIII for Tese is far away . The point is that you wount find someone who honestly believes Ray a single word nor the fluffy stuff he is providing . Do you see a frequent comunication with the shareholders ? God forbid not of course , have you heard a single " excuse me guys " for what happend in Sept. last year ? No nothing ... , its hard if not impossible , to have a positiv view on Genta management. All we want is our money back .... and in the meantime we are depending on guys like nutri to dig out some infos or statistics.
Cheers and good night .
BG
Heeeyy cbrad ))) nice to listen from you . Regarding SEC i recieved just a standard bla bla email . We take that serious , we forward it to the apropiate persons ...bla bla , what about tang corp? Null nada ... you are right , we can only get our cash back when it hit the very bottom , the only thing what concerns me is the IMB of agenda in relation to OS ... because a good OS changes the cours of the investment / Gentas future in a moment. And ray is gambeling with that , and that is my motivation with the " ASCO flip " partnered with the ganite story who has allmost forgotten here in the board .... you remember the troyan horse effect which ganite could provide versus the Fe related need for those bacterias ... etc etc ...dont want to create here a new " flagship " ..
However , I am sure I get my cash back ... its bad that it will be the money from other retailers , but thats the djungle .
BG
that is exactly the case , genta right now is a sailboat with no wind ...just boring .
BG
well, I am doing some DD on some stocks , I do not want to spam the board , but if you look at BVTI ( better than DNDN ) , imuc , maybe actc , ino , nvax ( incredible in my eyes ) ... there are some picks to find .
Cheers, BG
I know nutri , my sister and her husband are both MDs , working not too far from the Agenda fascility in Hannover . Nutri , you know the story of the messenger with the " bad " news . Throuw it over your shoulder .It doesnt count.
BG
You know , I lost some 4.5k$ last Sept. I was really lucky . As allmost all guys here who got burned ( and I complained it together with cbrad and a few others to the SEC ) , I want to get my cash back . Smitter told us when and how to react . In the meantime I will try this ASCO thing / not sure if it works but we will see . The " Quality " of the management is defined in egoism , selfish , intransparent - and in my eyes criminal ! ...and that is really nothing new here . However , I am sure I get my cash back , in smitters way or in this asumed ASCO flip .
Cheers, BG
Ryjo , the point in my eyes is that at the moment really nothing substantial is to report other than dilution . So , in the foggy time one can only try to estimate what will be - as i tried to figure out if the ASCO is worth a flip as it has been the last time .
Cheers Bg
Bundles , with all respect man , but I think you should invest your time and write in full sentences ...and some of your views shared with us would be also welcome . Calling names is not really welcome here. Nutri made here quite a terrific job.
BG
Hi , good evening STL )) , well - its new for me that someone honorable calls me a pumper. Usually I am named a basher because of my negative sentiments towards ray & Co . However dear friend , as a good christian I am able to forgive you. back to the topic:
Why do you think that it wount happen / impossible manuver from rays side / that they ( genta ) try to push the pps 2 weeks prior to ASCO with OS - speculation and fluff news + Tesetaxel " news " and all the bla bla we had so many times ? Serious question STL , wouldnt you take that oportunity ( if you were in Rays position ) ? Many guys here said , you can only make money WITH the flow of the companies / rays strategy , not against them . If that is true ... how high in your eyes is the possibility for such a set up ( as I believe ) ? I mean I allready offered Vawedo a bet ( which he rejected ) for 2 bottles Margaux 1986 , interested ??
Cheers , BG
....me too I am in the EU . The Brooklyn Bridge " thing " was a slight ironic hint from STL ...regarding believing that something " could " come out at ASCO to improve pps / or jumping down the Brooklyn Bridge ))) i.e. suicidal motivation i.e Kamikaze .... got it )) ?
BG
...the only 2 stocks I have at the moment are ADLS & Keryx ... I will prepare some money for the ASCO flip ...not that I believe that there comes anything out with substance , but Ray the rat is a master of spreading BS ( hughe news , bla bla ) . But there will be enough guys who think there is an oportunety to make money... and these guys will buy my shares when I kick them over board .
Vawedo and me have a little gentlemens agreement ( hehehehe , Margaux involved )
...if it wount work , I join you on the brooklyn bridge LOL ))
BG
I ask myself why STL Cardinal isnt frequently awarded for the most ironic poster in our club , I mean shouldnt he be rewarded for posting the most intelligent and ironic / humoresque posts ? I have to confess I am a fan of his posts . These fine noble comments cut throu the issue ( genta etc ) like a hot knife throu butter . Well - what do I say - very very well done mate )))
Cheers , applauding )) ... BG
Dear Kun ,
we heard enough hughe news the last 8 month ...esp. the one which send the pps down over night . It is too early for " hughe " news . Wait the " pre ASCO time " ...there you get HUGHE ( fluffy duffy BS ) .... and that will speed up the pps to a spike ... old story .
BG