I think "sieve hed" on yahoo could be Zeev Hed.

http://messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=m&board=4687587&tid=vlnc&sid=4687587&mid=54607

<<This stock will be a penny stock again. Not a doubt about it. Meanwhile, if you are
fortunate enough to be sitting on a profit (which excludes almost everyone on this
board), don't forget to realize it before its too late.>>

Yes, I'm afraid you are correct, Larry, old friend. I don't think it matters who heads
this company, making it profitable will be next to impossible. Just like cleanliness.
Perhaps if were next to Godliness, things could improve. But I don't deal with religion
or political issues on my boards!

As I was saying do da chief over on the parsnips board, "I can't understand anything
that you're saying. Can you write in a language I understand." By the way Chief, do
you think "Gods" efforts will be sisyphian?

Remember,the argument that "if it's good enough for Berg, then it's good enough for
me" falls through when you realize that this technology wasn't good enough for Ma
Bell, or Pa either, not to mention their children. I suspect it's not even good enough for
Dr. Goodenough. So I don't think that even God can save it. Now, I should tell you
that I don't know God personally, but then he doesn't know me personally either.

The bottom line is that this is a "floorless" that will eventually be all Berg's. So the
major question is: how many floors are there in the Austin plant? By the way, you can
see my best case scenario for this loser over on the I-hubba hubba board.

Now I just found this you said: "A full 63% of that market lead acid batteries for the automotive market and
is not addressable by VLNC's technology (they screwed that up years ago failing to get Delphi up to speed)"

Golly Zeev I wish you could take that back, IGNORANT. Did you know that:

"FengFan is the leading manufacturer of high-performance, maintenance-free sealed
batteries for cars, motorcycles and industrial applications in China with a 44-year
history of product development and sales. FengFan's "Sail" line of batteries is
acknowledged as the leading product in its category by the Chinese State Bureau of
Commerce and Technology and is exported to over 20 countries worldwide. It is the
leading OEM vendor to major automobile manufacturers including Shanghai
Volkswagen, FAW-VW, Dongfeng Citroen Automobile, Beijing Cherokee, Nanjing Iveco,
Steyr of China Heavy Duty Trucks and Tianjin Charade. The company is
headquartered in Baoding, China."

ZEEV FENG FAN PLANS TO INCORPORATE VLNC'S TECHNOLOGY INTO A VEHICLE APPLICATIONS.

Come on man shed the ego for 1 or 2 seconds. You're embarrassing yourself.


One post left. Powders almost gone!

What kind of reactionary are you. Probably voted for ?!

Stone him! Stone him!

Texans?

Would someone tell Zeev he hasn't a clue what the rechargeable battery world market really is. NOT $3 BILLION BUT $25 BILLION.

I only have 3 posts left on my FREE account.

You said: "I'm a trader and change my mind more than 5 or 6 times in a day."

That is different than pretending to be an expert about something you know nothing about.

You said: "and it is easy to IGNORE the IGNORANT..."

I think you meant it is the IGNORANT that IGNORE...

"Texas"

I don't think you read my posts? Zeev missed the rechargeable battery market estimate by $25 billion. He didn't comment on the insider buying nor mention their latest joint venture partner Feng or Wistron?

I made a case.

He has me on ignore? Well that's a good way to avoid the truth.

You're kidding?

"Texas"

I'm sure Zeev will remove me or my posts for the reasons you cited. The design of this thread gives The Hed Honcho final say. Oh well.

Zeev won't respond to my queries because those queries strike a nerve. Truth hurts.

"texas"

Hey who is trying to discredit anyone? Zeev discreditting the cheif? cheif discreditting Zeev? or me posting facts about previous conversations. Zeev, even admitted to changing his mind on Valence 5 or 6 times.

What do I know?

Zeev, I've sleuthued all day and pointed out that you have argued both pro and con for VLNC. Since you are wrong as much as you are right, leaves the average investor in a quandry.

Oh well that's the market.

Zeev, more sleuthing. Sure is a lot of insider buying at VLNC. Even the ex CEO last March in the $3 range?
http://biz.yahoo.com/t/V/VLNC.html

Zeev, more sleuthing. You had Valence on the verge of a death spiral 3 years ago and a few months later they were at $40.00 You said then just as now that VLNC did not have the financial resources to continue. Here we are 3 years later and you're saying the same thing AGAIN. Maybe you and the cheif are on to something?

http://www.siliconinvestor.com/stocktalk/msg.gsp?msgid=11499969

o:MGV who wrote (15185)
From: Zeev Hed
Sunday, Oct 10, 1999 12:32 PM
View Replies (3) / Respond to of 25684


Mark, what I am saying is very simple, VLNC is fighting for survival. Management believes (and has managed to
persuade others to believe) that they will be shipping "any minute" now, but financially they are essentially
bankrupt, and badly "on the ropes". If the CFO in any given month does not manage to get Daddy Warbuck" to
inject additional funds, they'll have to start and cut into the muscles of their burn rate quite drastically. So far, the
CFO has managed to play the high rope game quite well. Sure it would have been better to go with a secondary
at $7 or higher, but I doubt they had what to go with. They have no choice right now but to access the leaky
floorless. If they get a material order, however, you may very well see an explosion like the one that erupted at
ANCR (another death spiral that was saved in the last minute by a timely massive order from Sun).

What are the odds of VLNC getting such a material order? I know not, right now the stock's trend is down and
thus the market is saying that they are missing what was in essence another self imposed dead line (end of
September, at least that was the general impression from the last CC), after missing the January deadline and the
July deadline. This, to me at least, indicates that the problem is not in getting a P.O. (they must have "potential
P.O.'s lined up since last September according this thread), but the problem is in getting yields that are profitable.
Not having much cash on hand, they cannot afford shipping batteries each wrapped with few dollar bills, so, from
where I sit, this is a more probable reason for the delay. Long term, that might cause them to miss a window of
opportunity if competing entities overseas, with much greater financial resources (and accustomed and financially
capable to operate a plant for a year or so at a loss) get there before them. That would, IMHO, reduce the future
market share that VLNC can hope to capture.

Zeev

Zeev, did some checking on VLNC's new partner Feng-Fen. Big supplier of lead-acid batteries in China interested in Valence Technology? Curious?

Zeev, more sleuthing. I think you made a BIG boo-boo. Total rechargeable battery market is $27 billion today (not $3 bil of $6bil) expected to be $37 billion in 2004.
http://www.ntera.com/app/xoliox/market.htm

Uh-Oh open mouth insert foot.

Zeev, could you direct me to the post where you had VLNC as a $100 stock all I could find was this:
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/stocktalk/msg.gsp?msgid=12871213

To:Greg McDaniel who wrote (18297)
From: Zeev Hed
Monday, Feb 14, 2000 9:44 PM
View Replies (1) / Respond to of 25684


Greg, I think that within two three months, they'll get to my target of $65 to $70. By the way, are they not
involved in helping finance VLNC?

Zeev

Zeev did a little sleuthing and found where you and da cheif were singing the praises of the same stock VLNC. My question to you is what is different with the company now than then othe that a few more million share dilution?
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/stocktalk/msg.gsp?msgid=12766094

To:HQ who wrote (18011)
From: Zeev Hed
Thursday, Feb 3, 2000 12:14 PM
View Replies (1) / Respond to of 25684


Well, Jeff, I just bailed out again at $32, nothing wrong with VLNC, but I think we have few more weeks of
shaky markets. I wish the fed's would get the rates to their "target" in something more immediate than this Chinese
torture. The dribbling of rates increases and speculations about these increases is adding a lot of uncertainty in the
market, IMHO. I plan a reentry again in the $27/$28 area, if it drifts down there, otherwise, a breakout of $35
will be reentry signal.

Zeev

And then back in at $35. How curious?
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/stocktalk/msg.gsp?msgid=12795824
To:John Curtis who wrote (18093)
From: Zeev Hed
Monday, Feb 7, 2000 10:01 AM
View Replies (2) / Respond to of 25684


Got back in on the open, prices ranging between $34.5 and $35, but with "trepidations", I do not like the
divergence between the DOW and NAZ in the last few days, and the inverted yield curves may mean an
"accident" for some big bond traders that used to make money by selling the 30 years bond short and buying the
shorter maturities. On the other hand, one should expect a good SH meeting with some news, and the stock is
stronger than I expected. We'll see how that one develop this week, should be interesting and volatile and an
environment for "scalping" with selling "on the news" toward or around the AGM.

Zeev

Zeev, looks like the chief got your dander up. When did you become an expert on the rechargeable battery industry? Do you have credentials in that field?

You had valence as a $65 or $100 stock? based on what?

Warning:
FBI Warns 'Spectacular' Al Qaeda Attack Possible
38 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Al Qaeda may be planning "spectacular" attacks
inside the United States, the FBI (news - web sites) has warned, saying
national landmarks and other sites where attacks might result in massive
casualties, economic damage and psychological trauma were at risk from
the extremist network.

A bulletin posted to the Federal Bureau of Investigation's National
Infrastructure Protection Center Web site, dated Nov. 14, went out following
the Nov. 12 release of a purported tape of al Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden
(news - web sites), evidence a resurgence in al Qaeda activity and
unspecified intelligence reports.

Al Qaeda's next attack "may rely on conventional explosives and
low-technology platforms such as truck bombs, commercial or private
aircraft, small watercraft or explosives easily concealed and planted by
terrorist operatives," the FBI bulletin said.

"The highest priorities remain within the aviation, petroleum and nuclear
sectors as well as significant national landmarks," the bulletin said.

The vulnerability of a target and the likelihood of a successful attack would
also be as important as prominence in selecting a target, the FBI said.

Because of a lack of specific information about the threat, however, the FBI
did not raise its Homeland Security Advisory System threat level from the
yellow, or elevated, level.

FBI warns of terror, might affect market.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=578&e=1&cid=578&u=/nm/20021115/ts_n....

deleted

Hed Honcho, never misses a move.

Hank: I can't respond to private messages. If you want the dirt on Zeev you gotta read it here!

Geez Zeev, mish caught you in little white lies or selective amnesia whatever. Now you're censoring posts. Sounds like you want to control a little more than you should. Or maybe it's just in the genes?

Zeev, mish is just pointing out you are not infallible. Don't be a fool and let your ego get the best of you. hey you screw up, so what.

USE YOUR HED!

A little hostile there redwood. Really noone here makes a living trading. BS'ers mostly I'd say. And if Zeev really has to trade as much as he does, he really doesn't know that much about long term market dynamics. I can't trade day in and day out. I do much better longer term. Have you been following my best long range pick WTW. 52 week high after 52 week high. Believe girlfriend is a member.

Hey how bout that Raider win!

Who was always by Kenny's side after hours? Do you know Rose?

I practice yoga, mountain bike, play one helluva golf game and made a lot of money early in my career. Most posters here seem to be making up for lost opportunities. Zeev's business must be weak, to spend his life trying to make repeated .25 cent gains on weak stocks.

Don't respond please, I'd like to watch the game. Ken Stabler's an old friend of mine.

Zeev II,

Zeev 1 was touting OMG @ $6.25 and lamenting his inability to acquire shares. His impotent attempt caused him to unload prematurely.

WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO OMG. YOU WERE PISSED YOU COULDN'T GET IN AT $6.25.

OMG @ $5.20 AH
Symbol
Last Trade
Change
After Hours
Change**
Bid
Ask
Order Books
OMG
7:59pm
5.20
-1.40
-21.21%
-0.33
-5.97%
N/A
5.92
Island

Ive got an AH quote last of $5.05 @ 07:41 on OMG.

Neither of those links work. EXPIRED

Congrats Zeev on the Republican sweeps.

atj: Did you even say anything? You expect 1448 or 1484 either before or after a retracement. Anyone could say that and that is exactly what will happen. One way or another we WILL see 1448 or 1484 EITHER BEFORE OR AFTER A RETRACEMENT.

You can take dat to da bank!

You're looking for 1448 or 1484. AND you don't know when or WHETHER WE HAVE A RE-TRACE OF SOME SORT BEFORE 1448 OR 1484.

With all due respect how does one trade with the above tidbit of information

This is Zeev's thread he can censure whomever he chooses.
Sort of Zeev's bully pulpit.

Wow Zeev, didn't know your inventions were in the toilet!

"I am still in the camp calling this market a cyclical bull."

Your genius is apparent.

Hi Jean,


Off to yoga group. Flat day today looks like. You should really look into WTW either as investment or to join the group.

Namaste!