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You seem to be very confused on Rachel and Tami's stock with regard to CVSL/JRJR.
Rachel refused to endorse the sale of the company to CVSL (the Rochons).
At that time Longaberger was privately held.
The sole share holders were Tami, Rachel and the estate of Dave Longaberger.
In order to force Rachel to sell her shares in TLC she was fired which per company by laws required her shares to be sold.
She did NOT receive shares of CVSL or JRJR.
Rachel was to be paid monthly over several years for her shares in TLC.
Tami's shares of TLC were converted to shares in CVSL which became JRJR.
Those shares had no voting rights and were not eligible to be sold for a certain period of years and only if trading volume was reached certain bench marks.
Rachel never owned any stake in CVSL/ JRJR and Tami's shares remained unsold due to the devaluation and bankruptcy.
The story about the cars comes from the bankruptcy of Richmont which changed its name to R-999 BEFORE filing.
In that filing there were 4 leased Maseratis.
That particular filing is interesting for a few reasons.
First, as noted by Tami Longaberger's attorney it is not the norm to change the name of a business just before filing bankruptcy.
Second, the documents for Richmont/R-999 indicate that cash was kept at a minimum with Rochon senior transferring in just enough to cover various bills.
The bills included the leases on the cars and assorted charges to an entity called BTCC.
I am going to assume BTCC is Bent Tree Country Club.
In addition there were payments made on a loan for Trillium which I believe was going to pay the amounts due to Robert Way and Cohen of Betterware.
Where are you seeing that Rochon's home was in fact taken?
I would really love to ring in 2019 knowing Rochon was homeless but where can we see evidence of this ie. Dallas county clerk of courts or ...??
The 2016 annual revenue in the SEC documents was reported by JRJR to be 144 million.
The bankruptcy gross receipts show 2016 annual revenue at 8.9 million.
Can someone offer some input on this?
Gross receipts and gross revenue generally are the same.
How the hell can you report to the SEC 144 million for 2016 and then report to the bankruptcy court 8.9 million?
Am I reading this correctly?
Per a pre bankruptcy filing with the SEC, JRJR reported 2015 gross revenue of 138,352 million.
In the bankruptcy filings they report 2016 gross receipts of 8,941,681.
Am I reading this correctly???
How is it possible that you can register a company with the SEC and then in essence give the finger to the SEC and share holders by not providing audited statements and yet face NO criminal penalties?
Where did the cash go?
The Longaberger consultants were selling and creating cash flow while no TLC vendors were paid and no Ohio taxes were paid and various other state's sales tax were never paid.
Where did the cash go and how would we know with no audited statements?
Last year when the JBG loan was documented, it clearly indicated that Rochon had used some personal property as collateral.
At some point after the loan he took a mortgage on his home.
I have no idea if his home was the property used as collateral but if that is the case why has JGB not filed anything against Rochon in Collin county where he lives or Dallas county where JRJR/CVSL is located?
John Rochon needs to explain the unpaid sales tax.
1. What happened to the monehy and how did it appear on the CVSL/JRJR audited statements?
2. The fact that he refsued to pay the sales tax but has vaarious states personally assessing Tami Longaberger is as low as it gets.
Tami mentioned the unapid tax situation in bher 2015 resignatkion letter and yet as recently as July 2017 her personal checking account was frozen by the state of Maryland.
John Rochon is scum.
The share holders need to contact the SEC and the FBI needs to look at JRJR and John Rochon senior as well.
John Rochon is a sociopath
There needs to be an investigation of John Rochon by the SEC and FBI.
In 2013, 2014 and most of 2015, hundreds of thousands of dollars in sales tax was never paid. It was collected by CVSL/TLC but not remitted to the states where it had been collected and was owed.
In documents filed earlier this week in Franklin county, Ohio, Tami Longaberger has bills that were sent to her personally for past due sales tax.
This one is a double for Rochon.
1. He Made Tami responsible for sales tax when she had ZERO control over the cash coming into TLC.
All funds under CVSL were under the control of Rochon in Dallas.
2. a HUGE question is where and how was the sales tax revenue booked?
As an example,Maryland is still owed 151.000.00.
JRJR received that money with each order.
Did they some how add it in as revenue?
Did Rochon set up a slush fund for the sales tax and use it personally?
Where is/was the board of directors?
Was the board of JRJR questioning why the company was failing?
Did the board question John Rochon about the delays in SEC filings?
To comply with fiduciary obligations, directors must satisfy what is called the duty of care and the duty of loyalty.
The duty of care says that directors must be informed about what is going on and make decisions armed with the relevant facts.
The duty of loyalty states that the director must act in the best interests of the company and stockholders and not in his or her own self interests
Was Trillium Pond AG established for the sole reason of purchasing Kleeneze?
Did KLeeneze funds flow to Trillium then to CVSL/JRJR or was Trillium just used for the inital purchase?
In the annual report for 2016 which was filed in Ocotber 2017 there was this item.....
We have identified material weaknesses in our internal controls, and we cannot provide assurances that
these weaknesses will be effectively remediated or that additional material weaknesses will not occur in
the future.
If our internal control over financial reporting or our disclosure controls and procedures are
not effective , we may not be able to accurately report our financial results, prevent fraud, or file our
periodic reports in a timely manner, which may cause investors to lose confidence in our reported
financial information and may lead to a decline in our stock price.
This was also in the previous annual report.
The auditors (annd that would be more than one firm) made note of this.
This is of course for only the salary.
They still need to get judgement for the loan she gave them for one million.
As a recap, it was late spring 2014.
The Ohio Attorney General contacted Tami and said that TLC owed 100,000 in unpaid tax, not something that had ever happened before.
Rochon senior and junior then begged for more money and then asked her to go without a salary.
The Rochon Foundation has very little in assets.
You can view their tax filings for free at Charity Navigator.
Generally speaking, Richmont appears to give the foundation about 45,000 per year. Aside from that no real money.
The potentially interesting element is where the donations go.
They generally give nearly the full amount from Richmont to Future Vision Ministries which is in Canada.
Interestingly enough, Future Vision Ministries is a client of Jameson Bank per the Jameson Bank website.
Does anyone have any idea of what the plan was with JRJR?
Were they looking to actually run Longaberger, Agel, YIAH, KLeeneze, Betterware, Paperly and Tomboy?
Where did the cash go that these companies were generating?
Bils and taxes and vendors were not paid but consultants were still selling.
Legally is JRJR required to produce an audited report for the period that they were still listed on NYSE?
Correct me if I am wrong but wouldn't the bankruptcy of YIAH in September 2017 have been cause for filing a form 8 k?
Whether you are current on other filings that would seem to be an easy one and be required within a certain time frame.
Notice is given that at a general meeting of the members of the Company held on 13 September 2017, it was resolved that the Company be wound up and that Peter Dinoris be appointed liquidator(s).
Date of Notice: 13 September 2017
Peter Dinoris
Liquidator
John Rochon senior and John Rochon junior seem to have disappeared from Facebook.
The name on the investor relations contact is Brenton Baker. Perhaps Baker will be to shed light on questions regarding the missing conference call audio link and transcript.
Were the Rochons paying themselves salaries aside from the money being paid to their firm Richmont?
Where was the money that the companies were generating going?
BEFORE Rochon bought Longaberger, they were paying all bills and had been paying Rochon's Richmont a consulting fee.
After Rochon TLC needed the 1 million cash loan from Tami to keep going.
Where was the money going?
He wasn't paying sales tax in multiple states, was not paying property tax, had stopped paying Tami's salary 8 months before her departure.
Vendors were also not being paid.
Where was the cash generated by Longaberger going?
YIAH in Australia had also been paying rent on office, a warehouse and factory. Orders were still being taken until it totally folded.
Where did the cash from YIAH go?
Are they so far behind in audited statements that we will never be able to see where the money went?
The Rochon's did NOTHING but screw vendors and taxing authorities with regard to Longaberger.
There are posts on here dating back to 2015 where people were sounding the alarm about the destruction of Longaberger under the Rochons.
The Rochons spent more time crafting lies to the sales field and bad mouthing Tami Longaberger than trying to improve sales.
The signs were there as far back as 2015.
BTW---The recording of "earnings" call seems to have been removed from the website and the transcript as well.
There was a rather hilarious moment in the Rochon deposition with the attorney for Rachel Longaberger.
To recap, Longaberger had zero tax debt on the giant basket.
The taxes went partially toward the TIF.
Prior to the Rochon goons the bill was paid in full each year.
After the JRJR take over the bill (like many otbhers) started going unpaid.
The local paper gave the unpaid tax bill front page coverage in April 2015.
JRJR, then CVSL discussed the bill with the newspaper.
Russell Mack was quoted.
JR sued Tami in 2016 claiming they only learned of the TIF deal then in 2016.
Here's the hysterical part-in the deposition Rachel's lawyer asks Rochon senior if he is sure he onky learned of the TIF deal in 2016.
Rochon says yes, that it was a conspiracy to keep it hidden from him.
Rachel's lawyer then hands him the 2015 newspaper article to read where Russell Mack is quoted in 2015.
Rochon then suddenky can't recall when he learned of the TIF after launching a suit against Tami and a countersuit against Rachel.
The man was finally handed one of his lies in paper with a date stamped on it.
It was sweet.
Pete,
Not sure that ihub allows links to be pasted in.
You can view the Tami Longaberger arbitration documents
by going to the Franklin County Ohio Clerk Of Courts Website.
This is the case number, 18 CV 001483
Look at the Exhibit filed 2/16/18.
It is a 20 page document.
It explains that father and son Rochon told conflicting stories and neglected to ever bring any documents to court to support their wild allegations.
Again not sure if ihub allows links.
To view the Richmont, Blake, Nukote lawsuit, Google txfindacase.com Jon Blake.
In the Blake case, Richmont, Rochon fired Blake, Blake sues and the Rochon team counters with allegations that are word for word what they went accused of Tami.
I can tell you that in the area where Longaberger is located it became very clear that something was terribly wrong with JRJR by 2015.
Prior to JRJR Longaberger did not have past due bills of any sort nor court action.
By 2015 the local court system was seeing new filings for debts weekly.
The documents from the arbitration between Tami Longaberger and JRJR shed quite a bit of light on all of this.
The retired judge who awarded Tami Longaberger 2.1 milion dollars said that John Rochon senior and junior when questioned apart from one another told completely different stories, they made numerous allegations against Tami Longaberger and were given 2 years to provide documents to the arbitrator to back up their claims. In two years they never produced any documents and quit attending the arbitration all together.
If you read the deposition of John Rochon senior in the Rachel Longaberger lawsuit, Rochon plays the same game. He makes wild allegations and when pressed had no documents. He said he left them at the office.
In addition, Rochon played used the same game plan on Jon Blake when Richmont bought a printer ink cartridge company.
He gave Blake am emploument agreement and then fired him and accused him word for word of the same things he accused Tami Longaberger of.
Rochon has also painted Colleen Walters as being at fault for the failure of Your Inspiration At Home.
In spring/summer 2017 YIAH became insolvent in Australia.
Was this ever disclosed in any filings and if so would not doing so be breaking any laws?
In the filings, is there any indication that Richmont or the Rochons injected any cash into JRJR or any of the divisions?
Have the Rochons put any money in and if so how much?
Can someone offer insight on what happened?
They bought YIAH and Agel within a short period of one another.
Why did JR stop paying the rent on both company's warehouses and HQ?
Were they using all the cash from these companies to try to buy Betterware and Kleeneze?
They stopped paying literally every type of tax associated with Longaberger in 2014, sales tax, property tax. etc.
Each company has been run into the ground.
Does anyone have a theory?
The Jeffrey Warwick lawsuit is filed in the Licking county Ohio court system.
it is case number 2016 CV00731
Agel's Netherlands subsidiary was dismissed.
The D are presently Agel US and JRJR
AGEL ENTERPRISES (NETHERLANDS) BV DEFENDANT since 08/08/2016 (TERMINATED 03/17/2017) C/O TMF NETHERLANDS BV WESTBLAAK 89 3012 ROTTERDAM PO BOX 25121 3001 HC ROTTERDAM THE NETHERLANDS
AGEL ENTERPRISES INC Prim. DEFENDANT since 08/08/2016 C/O CAPITAL SERVICES INC STAT AGENT 1675 STATE ST SUITE B DOVER DE 19901
CHAD J KALDOR ATTORNEY since 10/14/2016 (TERMINATED 08/28/2017) representing: AGEL ENTERPRISES INC (until 08/28/2017), JRJR33 INC FKA CVSL INC (until 08/28/2017) LITTLER MENDELSON, P.C. 21 E STATE STREET, FLOOR 16TH COLUMBUS OH 43215
CHAD J KALDOR ATTORNEY since 09/07/2016 (TERMINATED 08/28/2017) representing: AGEL ENTERPRISES (NETHERLANDS) BV (until 08/28/2017), AGEL ENTERPRISES INC (until 08/28/2017), JRJR33 INC FKA CVSL INC (until 08/28/2017) LITTLER MENDELSON PC 21 E STATE ST 16TH FL COLUMBUS OH 43215
GREGORY D SWOPE ATTORNEY since 08/08/2016 (TERMINATED 02/28/2017) representing: JEFFREY K WARWICK (until 02/28/2017) 4775 MUNSON ST NW PO BOX 36963 CANTON OH 44735
JAMES COOPER ATTORNEY since 02/10/2017 representing: JEFFREY K WARWICK MORROW, GORDON, & BYRD 33 W MAIN STREET NEWARK OH 43055
JEFFREY K WARWICK Prim. PLAINTIFF since 08/08/2016 2150 S 1300 E SUITE 500 SALT LAKE CITY UT 84106
JRJR33 INC FKA CVSL INC DEFENDANT since 08/08/2016 C/O INCORP SERVICES INC STAT AGENT 17888 67TH COURT NORTH LOXAHATCHEE FL 33470
LEGA ENTERPRISES LLC FKA AGEL ENTERPRISES LLC DEFENDANT since 08/08/2016 WILLIAM GRAY C/O MILLER TOONE PC 165 REGENT ST SALT LAKE CITY UT 84111
THOMAS M MARCELAIN JUDGE since 08/08/2016
I have hard copies of all the lawsuits filed in Licking and Franklin county Ohio.
The vendors who went unpaid all did so under CVSL/JRJR.
If you would like to see for yourself go to each county's court website.
You can see the dates the lawsuits were filed.
In addition you can read the lawsuits and see when payments to vendors were stopped. They were all stopped under CVSL/JRJR.
There are ZERO lawsuits for unpaid bills relating to Longaberger under Tami Longaberger. There was one lawsuit over a dispute over linen service to the former hotel.
The issue of CVSL/JRJR not paying vendors first came to light in a June 19, 2014 Newark Advocate article. From that point forward JRJR went into a pattern of not allowing invoices to be paid at TLC. It was very similar to what happened in Australia at Your Inspiration at Home. Identical.
The lawsuit filed against JRJR by the former in house counsel for Agel describes this behavior. That suit was filed in Licking county by Jeffrey Warwick.
Longabergers bills and taxes were all current prior to JRJR/CVSL
Prior to CVSL/JRJR, Longaberger had zero issues of unpaid vendors.
Since CVSL/JRJR they have been sued over and over.
The Licking and Muskingum county courts are filled with filings over unpaid bills.
There is also a lawsuit filed against JRJR by the former attorney for Agel.
The lawsuit was filed in Licking county by Jeffrey Warwick.
It makes for a very interesting read.
I tried to warn people that Longaberger was being obliterated under JRJR/CVSL.
Several people tried to blame Tami Longaberger.
In 2015 when Tami left, her letter to Rochon was made public and she expressed her concerns that they had stopped paying sales tax in numerous states where TLC had sales consultants.
The local media where TLC is located reported that the property tax on the giant basket had always been current until JRJR/CVSL.
JRJR filed a lawsuit claiming they were unaware of a TIF tax deal TLC had in place. The best part is that in court records they say that they only learned of it in 2016. Hmmm...in 2015 Russell Mack a former CVSL/JRJR board member was interviewed by the Newark Advocate and discussed the taxes.
How can you learn of something in 2016 but discuss it with the media in 2015?
Rachel Longaberger Stukey has been forced to file a lawsuit against JRJR33 to receive payment of the monies owed her from the sale of her share of The Longaberger Company.
From the Columbus Dispatch, November 21, 2016
The suit, filed on Nov. 7 in Franklin County Common Pleas Court, says that after Dallas-based JRJR Networks bought the Longaberger Co. in 2013, it sought to cut Stukey's ties from the business that her father founded and buy her shares of the company. Stukey was a shareholder and led the company's foundation.
JRJR issued a promissory note to Stukey for $4 million that was payable over 10 years, or payable in full "in the event of a default in payment."
Stukey's suit says that JRJR "repeatedly defaulted and failed to pay," despite Stukey's "repeated pleas for payment."
As a result, Stukey is demanding full payment of the $4 million.
A JRJR Networks spokesman said the company wouldn't comment on pending litigation.
The property tax bills for the basket were and are viewable on the Licking County Ohio website.
CVSL/JRJR33 started D and D in 2012 before buying the company in 2013.
CVSL/JRJR33's CFO became the CFO of Longaberger after the sale.
The property tax bills are public record.
How can you claim fraud with something that is a matter of public record?
Here is the kicker.
Rochon says he was not aware of the structure of the property tax until March of this year, 2016.
In April 2015 Russell Mack addressed the unpaid property tax in an interview with the Newark Ohio newspaper.
How is it possible that CVSL could address the issue of the unpaid property tax in April 2015 yet claim to not known nothing about it until March 2016?
Can someone explain the details of what happened with Betterware and Rob Way?
Why was Rob Way supposed to receive a large number of shares?
Was a payment due to him and missed?
Tami didn't go into hiding.
She filed suit in 2015 for back salary and repayment of 3 loans she made, 2 to Agel and one to TLC.
The salary issue fell under arbitration.Further action regarding the loans is delayed until the arbitration matter.
The judge who was hearing the case had previously dealt with JRJR33 regarding an unpaid vendor lawsuit.
Between Licking county and Franklin county the cour systems have seen numerous vendor lawsuits.
Muskingum county will start seeing more action as Longaberger is now located in Muskingum county since they vacted the basket and moved back to factory and Homestead.
The unpaid vendor lawsuits are unreal.
Some are for very small amounts.
One company, Markey's Events wanted 4,000 and change.
Apparently a settlement offer was made and the lawsuit was dropped.
Months later they are back requesting a judgement.
A Hong Kong based vendor had a court date in May and TLC was a no show.
The judge immediately issued a judgement for 88,000.
There are several other lawsuits pending and many, many state of Ohio tax liens as well as tax liens from other states.
Under JRJR33, the company now owns virtually no assets and is leasing their current space.
These liens are apparently being filed against property and in the case of one Ohio tax lien it said to "take cash box".
The Basket building property taxes were CURRENT when CVSL/JRJR33 bought TLC. There were NO back taxes. You can go online and view the previous tax bills. All were current.
The mayor said last year, in the local paper that he had a problem with JR saying that TLC had no debt when they had in fact stopped paying the property tax.
They also never requested to have the building reappraised.
They avoided the issue like they have the dozens of vendors they have stiffed under the Rochon leadership.
I love it when people on here try to say civil litigation is "just business"
Is not filing required SEC documents a good way of doing business?
Also, how is it good business to not pay a wife variety of taxes.
One of the more disturbing unpaid taxes that is now a lien is sales tax.
Sales tax is really straight forward.
And not paying sales tax creates the question, where exactly is the money?
JRJR33 has not filed audited financial information since November 2015 and we are now in mid June 2016.
Longaberger is being hammered by unpaid taxes liens in Ohio and other states. Vendors are lining up literally in the court house.
Again...very simple...no audited financials....NONE...but we can see who is not being paid...the tax man and many vendors.
If the company is doing well why not pay the bills?
You have no audited statements, tax liens and civil litigation for unpaid bills.
Longaberger under JRJR33 continues to implode.
The court system in the counties nearest Longaberger are very busy with numerous court actions for unpaid bills.
These debts were mentioned below and all check out and all were amassed under CVSL/JRJR33.
The latest lawsuit is 2016 CV 00502 - MAIN HARVEST INDUSTRIAL LTD vs. THE LONGABERGER COMPANY.
Three weeks earlier it was 2016 CV 00424 - AMERICAN COLORSCANS INC vs. THE LONGABERGER COMPANY.
On deck for a June 27th trial we have Civil Case 16CVF00549
MARKEY'S AUDIO VISUAL INC
2365 ENTERPRISE PARK PLACE
INDIANAPOLIS , IN 46218
vs.
THE LONGABERGER COMPANY
1500 E MAIN STREET
NEWARK , OH 43055
The tax liens are too long to list.
Suffice to say that without audited docs local court filings and tax liens can provide some information.
What the hell is happening here?
Toss in the deal where JRJR33's attorneys resigned from
Case number 15 CV 007013
PLAINTIFF(S)
Name Attorney
TAMALA LONGABERGER DANIEL P MEAD
DEFENDANT(S)
Name Attorney
CVSL INC NO ATTORNEY ON RECORD
LONGABERGER COMPANY NO ATTORNEY ON RECORD
AGEL ENTERPRISES INC NO ATTORNEY ON RECORD
Agel and Rochon might consider hiring a lawyer, lol.
Also, if there is some caash left consider paying the vendors who are lining up and then the tax liens.