The company in the prospectus is modeling itself after alternative dairy and feel that alt meat can take 13% of the market.

US meat sales alone are 270 billion and just for some reference, Tyson had 40 billion revenue (worldwide) in 2018.

Lets say that dream of 13% is hit in 10-15 years using today's numbers. Alt meat is a 35.1 billion dollar industry. If BYND grabs 5-10% of that market, they are selling 1.75 to 5.27 billion per year, or 20-60 times current earnings.

Their costs are gonna be high and we gonna see dilution. I expect costs to increase, but hopefully we start seeing revenue gain momentum compared to costs. They are expanding and creating new production facilities. Lot's of risk in terms of production and product, as well as just being able to manage growth. plenty of headwinds, but I want to see in the upcoming reports a continual increase in revenue, active work on expanding production and sales channels (let's see that McDonalds partnership!). Chains and franchises are clamoring to partner with an alternative meat company and BYND is in the elite circle.

Outliers like pea protein being directly and significantly linked to the big C or pea production could whomp this.

Is the hype worth it? I think the potential is really there and I bought some, but certainly would not bet the pea farm on it. I anticipate some pretty big volatility.I am, however, excited about it and the past week certainly has been fun.

3-1 split was announced in May and voted on (and approved) in June. no dates yet though

Does anybody think there will be some more news about the split with the financials call? It seems like this is taking a long time.

Not true. An investment in a great number of blue chips in 2007 would likely result in making that money back in multiples if you stuck with it and added more along the way.

It depends on the stocks you hold and the diversity of the stocks. If a person YOLOs it on one or two equities with no diversity, then it is a matter of risk vs reward. Sure, you could have flown to the moon with a good bet, but you then accept the risk failure.

Take here... I think there are still some opportunities for trades, not investments, with MSLP left, but they are coming fewer and fewer. This thing has apexed, IMO, both from a financial and brand perspective. And I would be shocked if anybody could make anything out of it moving forward.

IMO, it is just a matter of time that any brand value here is predatorily picked up by another company in an arrangement that will NOT benefit the average shareholder.

I have enjoyed watching this thing move from absolute penny stock obscurity to some legitimate world wide popularity. And now... it seems to be moving back down into the depths of obscurity again.

Someone bought some at $1.77? Seems to me that we have em right where they want em!

Champagne wishes and caviar dreams!

X is righting the ship.

Ever since I have been here, there has been some variation of the variable X. And this time it is different. sure. Certainly a bet I am willing to make with your money.

I dunno... if a guy buys a billion dollars of Coca Cola... drinks it all and then sells the scrap aluminum, he might be able to boast 100m in revenue. it doesn't make it any less of a turd investment.

Ah yes.... that one month period before it spiked up again and continued its trend down into the abyss.

http://imgur.com/a/xHHrU

I think this pig is a fine trade (although I don't know how much longer), but I would be more than a little wary about anything more than a short while. The number of possible positives is really getting pretty slim and farther reaching, but the only thing this stock has ever been is the possibility of what might be.

There is no arnold. The main products have dropped. There is no money (call it streamlining if you want). there is no hype. There is no manufacturing. There is no insider manilpulation at bodybuilding.com. All of the could bes and wanna bees are in the rear view mirror. This is a carp flopping around on the side of the river. OK... so they have protein bars. You know, the ones I have never seen in a store.

They have never given a crap about investors and there really is absolutely no sign that they are going to start now.

This is a turd with a checkbook and a stock printing machine.

All imo.

History and facts show that 15% up is followed by 30% down. Unless, of course, this time it is different. Which, once again, historically has never ever been the case.

if you are into losing money, THIS is your equity!

all imo.

When does the split happen... I would have expected more news a while ago.

Everything about Musclepharm has peaked.

The PPS peaked (well... actually it has been a slow net decline ever since I have been here with occasional bursts from time to time). Revenue has peaked. Sales has peaked. Hype has peaked. Everything about this company has peaked. Well, lawsuits and downscaling maybe have not peaked.

Anything that maybe could have been, is no longer... and long spent into the coffers of "not us". And it really doesn't sound like there is anything really of value to sell, either.Not much is left, but it certainly is interesting to watch.

Dude.... musclepharm hasn't even LEFT the golden cross that started in 2013.

All in, brother!

seriously.... you guys... they got em right where they want em.

I wouldn't be surprised if a little company named Under Armour just decided to buy these guys right up. Maybe you have heard of Under Armour.

I am just sayin.... hold tight guys, because we just about to go to the moon.

Always look on the bright side

Nonono..... They got em right where they want em!

When do we split?

This is why I keep on coming back here.

and the Musclepharm executive board are a bunch of boy scouts?

They should be on the Nasdaq any day now, so that should boost things a bit.

:) I love watching this stock and in the waning days of it's existence... I wish all of you the best exit strategy possible.

Well... except for the entire history of this stock. There's that. Like, there has never been a significant period of time in this history of this company where it has been beneficial to own this stock. Ever. Never ever.... ever.

Well, that Q was about as sad as the Walmart bus stop on payday.

If I were to buy, it would be today... probably sell tomorrow, but for today it is a buy.

What I think is most interesting in watching all the discussion here is that there is so much speculation about the details of the sales when I don't think this is a sales story.

It is a story about selfishness. They have proven time and time again that they look out for themselves and despite any vision they may have for the company, they first and foremost make sure they are individually taken care of.... far beyond necessity and far beyond what they have provided as sentinels of shareholder money. I mean, they ARE being investigated by the SEC for as much. I am a firm believer that if a person puts up risk, they should reward themselves when they win, but for these guys, the "win" wasn't when they were making sound decisions, it was when we bought stock and sent them cash. And they are gonna walk away from this with big cars and big houses and big cash, while this slowly meanders back down to penny land.

If you are speculating here for the long haul and not a trader, you deserve what you get.

I love your commitment.

You are right. There is shady stuff going on with this company, but that hasn't changed since I have been here. There have been many illusions of how they are going to turn things around, but if there is one thing you can count on at MusclePharm is that they are consistent with their shadiness.

Your postulation is that Drew C. is just a guy on the dole and inner circle at MSLP and has never put in any money to it and I don't think that is 100% is the case. He put substantial money into the company fairly early on. I do believe he also got a lot for that money (more than most investors), but that goes back to my belief that he was the smartest guy in the room at that time and that he likely negotiated with his money on the table.

I tend to believe what happened in November, 2013 is that MSLP just said they weren't going to agree to the terms anymore. So, by "terminated", I think (and this is mostly recollection), I think that meant MSLP realizing how much cash they were losing out on and did some dirt. http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=nmona&article=59933136.

Well, a business saying "WE ARE DONE HERE!" and the actual contracts that people sign are not always the same. I don't know much about the 850k, but my guess is that he is being paid for what he has a legal claim on. He might just want to be done with them too. I dunno.

I know I am done with these guys. I just like watching from afar and know that my best bet would be trade and not invest here, if I were to put any money in at all.

I USED to speculate that because of MusclePharm Sportswear's LLC status, that it would be an easy way for a tightly regulated publicly company to pass money through to a structure that was less regulated. Illegal, if it were the case. Drew's exact role was not quite clear, as he was taking customer service emails from Facebook. They were not exactly transparent and none of the sportswear stuff and wasn't put in the Q or A reports when I first started putting money here. It was shady as heck, but hey... they were about to change! ha.

Even as time went on, it only vaguely gained some clarity. I think at one point, there was verbiage in a report that MSLP was going to get paid 10% of the net profit. Net profit.... ha.

What I speculate now is that Drew knew these guys and liked the story and liked that Corey Gregory was willing to go out there and be a workhorse. It wasn't like he was a poor guy and put some money in it and then with one of the cash infusions, the opportunity for the clothing stuff came up. Drew negotiated like he is supposed to do and came out with some great goodies.

Honestly, at the time, I am guessing that Drew was one of the smarter guys at the table with some pockets to back it up.

Here you go.

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1415684/000114420411068962/v242684_ex10-1.htm

I know he owned equity through a few different sources and did put money up before this was a multimillion dollar company. I think Drew infused them with cash a few different times.

Don't get me wrong, I know that the MSLP guys have some broski stuff going on with doleing out cash and stocks and benefits... and I am sure Ciccerelli was chumey with them all, but I more think he was in it for the investment and put up some legit cash to help make it happen.

Pretty sure that Drew owned the apparel side of things from the beginning. It was actually one of my complaints from years ago that they were missing out on apparel. And that they were sneaky about it. T'wasn't long ago that the apparel side of the Musclepharm website went to a whole different page.

It has been a while and I could be mistaken, but I seem to remember verbiage at one point that gave Drew's company complete ownership of clothing and apparel sales.... like 100% ownership and full usage of the brand. This was back when Brad probably used the dollars to buy a few green lambos and what not. Not Ciccarelli's fault (even if he was on the periphery) that the rest of them were bleeding cash out to get endorsements and go to parties. Who knows, maybe without all the crazy spending for Rampage's lambo etc etc etc (self wages aside), they would not have become the brand they have.

Whether Drew and Brad are buddies at this time, I cannot speculate on... but Drew did put money into the company when others did not. IMO, he has made what would be considered smart investment moves into the company. Basically, at one point, he had to do 0% advertising, fulfilled orders for a growing hot company at crazy returns.

why? because they can. It should shock no one.

IMO, the apex of an opportunity for change has come and gone, long ago. The same exact point you bring up has been made here year after year after year, yet nothing seems to change. They have always paid themselves very well. They have always spent lots of money. They have always found ways to take care of themselves and their buddies.

Always on the cusp of changing; relying on hope of future fiscal and ethical responsibility.

Buy today. Sell today.

Same as it ever was

I bet these guys are on the straight and narrow, now. Everything would point to this time being the real turn around.

Probably at $15-20 within a 12-18 month time period now that they really have their sh*t together.

GO GREEN!

Personally, I don't care what it does tomorrow, as tomorrow's action does not speak to my overall goals here.

There was not much bad about those earnings at all. This sets the stage for another 3 months of steady gains.

Not only do they have their mainstay FB that is raking it in, but growth in mobile, Instagram, Whatsapp and a few outliers like Oculus and global connectivity.

This drop today does NOT impact my outlook at all for the next while on FB.

If history is any indicator, it seems to run up into after hours and drop the next day.

All I know is that I see good things ahead!

Who knows.

If I were to make a guess.... UA making these purchases.

I think it is awesome that they are up this much and hope all of you make tons of money. I am not sure I would congratulate the longs though..... I think it is the more so the traders that are winning today. The 3 month, 6 month and year all look bad on this one. Not sure what the 2, 3, 5 year returns on this for the long?

I still like watching this one and wish everybody here success.

I see no reason that as long as they are continuing to grow that FB cannot hit a price point where it is 100 P/E

Holy... .what happened here?

yeah... read my history and then you will likely smell the sarcasm. I like watching this thing as a point of learning.d


As a side note. Discussion with friend major distributor.... I ask about these guys. He says combat and the staples continue to do welll and Miss Fit is kicking ass. He also is cautious about anything like this, as it is a game of the latest fad.