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Point is with various haircuts falling into the tin cup, there'll be something in it. Right now looks very empty and likely to remain so.
I agree entirely with your sentiment BTW.
Salary cuts . . . have they checked their tin cup lately ?
No. Would have to be a comprehensive agreement. Meaning *all* debt written down and / or converted along with guarantees for the debt holders who now own Common equity, and management would have to face some haircuts (salary cuts, guarantees of no Preferred -- voting control, etc). Then there'd be a final major R/S and a clean debt free shell would emerge, hopefully with a real operating company (no more fake well BS). The debt holders would need to support the Bid to effect a share price recovery to make their money back. That's the only pathway for a recovery.
Otherwise its a 100% loss for the debt holders and management never gets paid -- pathway #2.
Toxic Charlie rules. Longs drool.
Convert debt to equity and then what? Crush to zero again?
A cesspool is pristine quality drinking water compared to what Toxic Charlie has done to WGAS.
$6M debt is fragged. Permanently. There needs to be write-downs of 90%+ of the principal and 100% of accrued interest by bondholders collectively otherwise they see absolutely nothing. Ever again.
Short story: write down 90% of principal and 100% interest, or write-off 100% principal and 100% interest.
Reality: The auditors have spoken:
"...Item 4.02 - Non-Reliance on Previously Issued Financial Statements or a Related Audit Report or Completed Interim Review.
On March 17, 2015, Weinberg & Company, P.A. (“Weinberg”) notified the Company and its Board of Directors that they have withdrawn their audit reports included in the Company’s Annual Reports on Form 10-K for the years ended December 31, 2013 and 2012 (the “Form 10-K’s”), and that disclosure should be made to prevent future reliance on Weinberg’s audit reports in the Form 10-K’s. In addition, Weinberg notified the Company that on March 5, 2015, the Company filed its Form 10-Q for the quarterly period ended September 30, 2014 and its Form 10-Q for the quarterly period ended June 30, 2014 prior to the completion of Weinberg’s review procedures and without Weinberg’s knowledge. The Company and its Board of Directors have determined that the financial statements included in the Company’s Annual Report on Form 10-K’s for the years ended December 31, 2013 and 2012, and the Quarterly Reports on Form 10-Q for the periods ended June 30, 2014 and September 30, 2014, should no longer be relied upon...."
http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=nmona&article=65934857
ROFLMFAO
Sounds like Toxic Charlie has been a bad, bad boy.
$WGAS - a cesspool.
Item 4.02 - Non-Reliance on Previously Issued Financial Statements or a Related Audit Report or Completed Interim Review.
On March 17, 2015, Weinberg & Company, P.A. (“Weinberg”) notified the Company and its Board of Directors that they have withdrawn their audit reports included in the Company’s Annual Reports on Form 10-K for the years ended December 31, 2013 and 2012 (the “Form 10-K’s”), and that disclosure should be made to prevent future reliance on Weinberg’s audit reports in the Form 10-K’s. In addition, Weinberg notified the Company that on March 5, 2015, the Company filed its Form 10-Q for the quarterly period ended September 30, 2014 and its Form 10-Q for the quarterly period ended June 30, 2014 prior to the completion of Weinberg’s review procedures and without Weinberg’s knowledge. The Company and its Board of Directors have determined that the financial statements included in the Company’s Annual Report on Form 10-K’s for the years ended December 31, 2013 and 2012, and the Quarterly Reports on Form 10-Q for the periods ended June 30, 2014 and September 30, 2014, should no longer be relied upon.
The Company provided Weinberg with a copy of this disclosure on March 17, 2015, providing Weinberg with the opportunity to furnish the Company with a letter addressed to the Securities and Exchange Commission (the “SEC”) stating whether the independent accountant agrees with the statements made by the Company in response to Item 4.02. A copy of the letter, dated March 17, 2015, furnished by Weinberg in response to that request is filed as Exhibit 16.1 to this Current Report on Form 8-K.
http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=nmona&article=65934857
Not if you have the same clowns running the company.
As I said: Everyone can take large haircuts (90c on the dollar and convert to equity) or lose 100% of their investment.
"Good" news is it can't get worse for Common shareholders until the next R/S -- which all parties will have to participate in.
I believe if the parties can work together, then everyone can benefit and this R/S would be the true bottom for WGAS.
Nothing for anyone to do between now and terms being made public. Wouldn't recommend even a $0.000001 buy, and certainly no chance to sell.
What a pitiful mess.
"Volk has no company beyond a worthless shell."
That is all WGAS has ever been. LMAO
This company is dead with no life in the future. The people in charge ran this thing to the ground.
What broker do you use to short these penny stocks?
Volk could care less. He got his. What exactly is not understood here?
I'm talking about a 100% write-off of the debt (100% debt elimination not a partial reduction) in exchange for equity, which then undergoes a final R/S. If its not comprehensive then you're correct about it being a trap.
Again, from the debt holders perspective, they need certain guarantees, and management needs to take a large haircut of its own.
Comprehensive.
Then the debt holders just lost $6M and Volk has no company beyond a worthless shell.
I see another company try to pull the old trick of 'debt reduction' - its just juggling numbers, anything to prompt a feeding frenzy, funneling $$$ right into the crooks' pockets.
Don't fall for it.
Volk has millions in the bank now. He could care less.
If management doesn't take a haircut, it won't be comprehensive.
So that includes Volk, and anyone else you can think of.
While you may say the company owes the debt, let the debt holders collect anything from a worthless shell. And let the company try to succeed when it's so far in distress its Common falls to No Bid immediately.
Work out agreements deal with distress, and require everyone to share in the loss.
The keys:
1. All parties need to work together to develop a comprehensive approach
2. All parties need to recognize that despite 4 R/S's (and one more required) all alternative solutions have been tried and failed
Just like the paradox of thrift, when every individual does only what's good for themselves the entire system fails. Here, when everyone takes a portion of the loss, there's an opportunity for recovery. Its not a guarantee, but the outcome is much better than the present reality.
Who gets to write down the debt. Not the company, the company owes it. But that is a heck of an idea. I should write down my debt too. And issue a bunch of shares.
You are correct! and WGAS is full of 'GAS' when it comes to taking actions, rather than "wasting market time" that has already cost "their" shareholders almost everything they've vested here!
This POS has already received more monies to have completed everything they've "supposedly" set out for!
But unsurprisingly they've failed in every area except when lining their pockets!
Welcome to the "Safe Harbor (Scapegoat)-Act"
I did say in one of my prior posts that there'd be the need for another R/S. Question is only if a comprehensive deal can be worked out so there's no further dilution.
It'd kinda be nice for people to respond to what's written, otherwise there's not really any point in wasting time.
If you were to mark-to-market the debt right now it'd be a 100% write-down. $6M = $0 (100% worthless for all debt holders).
So taking a big haircut (say $5.4M / 90% for arguments sake) in reality represents a realization of liquidity. That doesn't mean conversions and haircuts happen without guarantees for the former debt holders to protect them from the managers (limitations on power, seats on board, etc, etc)
With a 90% haircut (just keeping the numbers consistent), debt holders have $600k equity interest. If the stock rises 10x they're made whole in the form of equity (goes from $600k to $6M). Means management needs to bring in a real operating company that can create that rise in market cap post all changes. If I were the debt holders, I'd find the company and bring them in. At least that way I'd have assurance they're real and can deliver.
Eventually the parameters are going to be the same: haircuts and conversion to equity in exchange for liquidity, or 100% of nothing. That's what's been happening here for years. Debt holders trapped in a reality of 100% of nothing, followed by R/S after R/S.
Can it change? Yes. Will it? I don't know.
We got people here wanting to crowdfund the crooks. Thats the best way I can explain it.
$6 million is a pretty big haircut. You want everyone to throw good money after bad, to feed the crooks?
Right now everyone has $0
So everyone can collectively figure out if they want to work together, take a haircut and create more than $0, or stay as is.
Choices are very simple: haircut, put a real operating company in, and have a percentage of something; or no haircut and have 100% of nothing.
And if WGAS management and the debtholders go to a decent mediator: s/he will tell them exactly the same.
Other than that watch to see what develops.
Beyond hilarious.
What does this company have that's worth $6 million? I mean I can appreciate you trying to create something out of nothing, but less than nothing is all you got. $6 million less than nothing ---
Not when its all coverted to equity, but that means a real operating company needs to come in as part of the comprehensive workout.
You still got $6m of debt. Who is going to pay it.
The point is post R/S there'll be a clean shell with no debt and a reset share structure. That can be supported.
Again: key is to cut a comprehensive deal. Otherwise the $6M debt is worthless.
So who buys the shares? Dump to no bid? Oh wait, there is no bid . . . so much for that idea.
Not exactly: $6M debt is converted to 32B shares. That gives current shareholders 2/34ths of the company (~6%), then a R/S is effected with certain conditions to protect the converters. On a percentage basis the debtholder get virtually the entire company.
If things remain as they are, lets see anyone recover $6M. In short, that $6M is unrecoverable and worthless as is.
Only one pathway forward at this time, and it requires a comprehensive solution.
You see, while logical the plan you present, it's only works for a real business, with real management, not a bunch of lying, crooked, clown, thieves.
So $6 million of debt goes "poof"? Where's David Copperfield when you finally need him?
Common already took a haircut. Right now its everyone else's turn:
- debtholders to fully covert with a R/S
- management to cut back on salary and perks
Otherwise there'll never be a recovery here (and that's very possible as matter stand at present).
WGAS is the textbook definition of 100% of nothing.
LOL doesn't work that way.
Yea and they / management killed the company's share price with their greed.
ZERO production !!!
WGAS should issue all 32B now, take the debt to $0, then perform one final 10,000:1 R/S.
Will have a $700k asset on the books at that point vs. 32M O/S. It's better to completely reset now that the company is reporting again.
WGAS fully diluted:
32 billion+ shares
ROFLMFAO
I expected nothing more from this stock today. Just as I predicted.
Any bid should be dumped into and wiped out. Let shares pass into the next generation of fools.
Yesterday's bump was an opportunity for some quick exits at retail prices. 2M shares dumped at $0.0001 already.
People have been saying that all along, and the more they buy, the more it drops. This is poison, skull and crossbones, (insert favorite evil description here).
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Mr. Volk brings over twenty-seven years of professional experience running public companies in various industries including oil and gas. In addition to his current responsibilities for Worthington Energy, Mr. Volk has been the Chairman of Bermuda Segregated Funds, Ltd., an open-end mutual fund with offices in Bermuda, since 2007. Prior to that, Mr. Volk was the Chairman & President of Osage Energy Corporation. Mr. Volk was also a co-founder of an operating copper company, Mercator Minerals Ltd., a component of the TSX Mining Index. In 1981, Mr. Volk earned a BS degree in Business Administration from Menlo School of Business Administration in Menlo Park, CA.
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