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Messi is another player who is probably playing in his last WC at 35. The pressure on him must be enormous. American football is relatively tame in comparison. They play for 60 minutes and take 30 seconds between plays. Granted it's hard hitting but I think soccer takes more endurance.
I also think tennis is extremely tough to play competitively. It is a young person's game and people like Nadal and Federer only come around once in a generation.
LOL good one. Tough at the top,eh. Guess more than anything else it's just that the top teams are so closely matched
it's hard to say which team is the best. Ranks come from performances over time, but on any one day.... like golf too.
Agree it's one of the toughest to play for the reason you give, running all the time. Have thought that forever. Haven't looked but the only thing i've read about how Kane felt was him saying he would have to live with it. That's the thing about sport at any level, but most of all at the highest levels. No one can be perfect. Just would be so hard for those top guys to swallow, but again that's part of the deal. Part of them being there. And yep, who would have picked the semifinalists. Though could have picked Croatia .. https://indianexpress.com/article/fifa/fifa-world-cup-2018-schedule-semi-final-fixtures-timings-5248986/ .. who were there with France, England and Belgium in 2018. And they are ranked 12. Morocco not that far away at 22.
this year. Semis 2022 -- Argentina 3 v Croatia 12 and France 4 v Morocco 22
https://fanbanter.co.uk/sam-matterface-under-fire-for-mocking-harry-kane-with-comment-after-penalty-miss-vs-france/
Sadly Sh*t happens.
Absolutely gutted. We’ve given it everything and it’s come down to a small detail which I take responsibility for. There’s no hiding from it, it hurts and it’ll take some time to get over it but that’s part of sport. pic.twitter.com/lw5Esl4fnA
— Harry Kane (@HKane) December 11, 2022
interesting tidbit since the fifa ranking came into play. The number one ranked team heading into world cup has never won the tournament, which this year was brazil.
I think it is one of the toughest sports to play considering they are basically running for 90 minutes and the margins of winning or losing comes down to one goal. Add in the pressure of playing for your country and even making it to the WC then on to the knockout round and win or go home for 4 years.
It's tough to play Monday morning quarterback regarding the penalty or missing the penalty kick after the fact is what I am saying.
Best thing I read was
Harry Kane has scored 53 goals for England but he’ll now probably be best remembered for the one he didn’t. Such is FOOTBALL ⚽️
— Ian Doyle (@IanDoyleSport) December 10, 2022
Belgium FIFA rank 2, Italy 6, Denmark 10, Germany 11 didn't make the final 16
this year. Semis 2022 -- Argentina 3 v Croatia 12 and France 4 v Morocco 22
https://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/men?dateId=id13792
"...that's football."
Thanks for the insight.
i agree kane bottled it up. He is one of the best penalty takers. But's that's football.
Umm, BullNBear52, maybe you have a problem with the term i used. In suggesting brainsnaps occurred i was not taking
away from the overall performance of the two teams. To clarify: by brainsnaps i simply meant an oops under pressure.
The France player who created the penalty guessing would have had 2nd thoughts about his push. And i wonder
how Kane would describe his miss. If i had said oops under pressure would you have jumped as you did.
It's been a long time.
There were no brain snaps. It was two teams playing their hearts out to continue on. It is ridiculous to say either side screwed up mentally in the heat of the match.
A France brainsnap created the penalty. A Kane brainsnap created the miss. You
know more than i obviously re England and penalty kicks. You got one of the top two
.. https://www.90min.com/posts/which-world-cup-team-is-the-worst-at-penalty-shootouts .
I don't have a problem with him unless he says something differently he sat on the bench and played his heart out when he got in the game.
yeah typical england another heartbreak. What is up with england and penalty kicks. They always miss em when the game is on the line.
OOps, Kane on 2nd penalty chance. Two friends in Sydney are watching the game at Cheers Sports Bar .. https://www.sportingnews.com/au/soccer/news/watch-world-cup-games-pubs-live-sites-sydney-australia-2022-fifa/cankd9rl8okfcyd1isasis0a .. with other keen, guessing mostly English fans.
She helps me stay off the pokies, her fiancee is the really keen soccer fan. Their disappointment
now is the only thing that takes the shine off the present situation for me.
i would cry too if i lost to morroco lol, but seriously most likely his last world cup so i understand
yep like i said heart is england but head says france
It's on! Kylian Mbappe spurred my $5 onto France. The machine on the wall of the local gave $5.50, my Dec. 5.
Yep. Mixed emotion too. I think the coach will stick to his plan.
My final 4 is down to one. Argentina.
So far my final 4 still has 3 remaining teams. Argentina, Brazil and Portugal with the USA out.
Would love to see a France v Argentina final with Messi and Mbappé going head to head.
watch ronaldo say if he started they would have won, still got few minutes left though so anything can happen.
I think he is a little bigger than that.
https://nypost.com/2022/12/10/cristiano-ronaldo-exits-in-tears-after-portugals-world-cup-exit/
They save the best for last since he would have the most pressure on him in a shoot out. That I understand. Just had to kill him to stand and watch.
if england beats france they really have great chance to go to finals now, heart says go england.
teams already pick who in order most likely will take penalties when they go to shoot out, neymar would have taken it later on if the first brazil players didn't miss.
watch ronaldo say if he started they would have won, still got few minutes left though so anything can happen.
Why did Neymar not take a penalty vs Croatia? Brazil dumped out of World Cup in quarterfinals
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https://www.sportingnews.com/us/soccer/news/why-neymar-not-take-penalty-croatia-brazil-world-cup-quarterfinals/gsqqtajrg7sknozcuyxvkxse
It had to be painful for Neymar.
Argentina beats the Netherlands in penalty kicks at the World Cup quarterfinals
December 9, 20224:59 PM ET
AL DAYYEN, Qatar — Lionel Messi's dream and Argentina are still alive at the World Cup.
The South American powerhouse powered past the Netherlands in the quarterfinals of the 2022 World Cup. Number-three Argentina was determined to win and avoid being the second upset of the day when Croatia defeated top-ranked and tournament favorite Brazil.
Messi's superlatives are unsurpassed. The 35-year-old is one of the finest to ever play the game. But there's one thing missing on his impressive soccer resume: a World Cup title.
https://www.npr.org/2022/12/09/1141924263/argentina-netherlands-fifa-world-cup-quarterfinal
The WC is the only thing missing from his resume.
Lol less dancing next time brazil
LOL..Ronaldo had a face when the kid scored the 1st goal
lol yep :) def gonna start again next match, hopefully ronaldo doesn't pout lol
Portugal coach should stay ballsy---kid who replaced Ronaldo has a hat trick
the thing with brazil is sometimes they start to get real cocky at later stages and it backfires on em if they go into final.
heart says england but head says france to advance when they play each other
portugal cruising, ballsy move by coach to bench ronaldo, could have easily backfired
So far my final 4 still has 3 remaining teams. Argentina, Brazil and Portugal with the USA out.
Brazil put on quite an exhibition yesterday in their match against Korea.
Brazil Trounces South Korea, With Flair
Vinícius Júnior, Neymar, Richarlison and Lucas Paquetá all scored in the first half for Brazil, which advances to the quarterfinals.
Published Dec. 5, 2022
Updated Dec. 6, 2022, 8:41 a.m. ET
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/12/05/sports/brazil-korea-world-cup-score
Me too but Croatia was 2nd to France 2-4 in the final 2018, soooo... not surprised.
Have just seen some twitter links automatically embed themselves when you post the
link. Don't know yet which do or don't so am wondering now if this twitter link will..
The only players to score in all of the 2014, 2018 & 2022 World Cups and Euro 2016 and 2020 are Cristiano Ronaldo, Xherdan Shaqiri and Ivan Perisic.
— Richard Jolly 🇺🇦 (@RichJolly) December 5, 2022
I thought Japan was gonna advance
FIFA World Cup live updates: Neymar scores penalty as Brazil routs
South Korea, after Croatia beats Japan on penalties at Qatar
2 hours ago , updated 5m ago
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-06/qatar-world-cup-live-updates-brazil-south-korea-japan-croatia/101734724
FIFA World Cup 2022: Live scores, results, England v Senegal, France v Poland, Mbappe
England are finally playing the kind of football their rivals expected and they’re into the quarter-finals where the nightmare that is France and Mbappe awaits.
Emily Benammar and wires December 5, 2022 - 8:05AM News Corp Australia Sports Newsroom
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FULL TIME: England 3 Senegal 0
FULL TIME France 3-1 Poland (France into quarter-finals)
‘Deadly’ England are finally playing the kind of football their rivals expected but it has not been without drama and next comes every team’s worst nightmare.
After six World Cup matches without a goal, Harry Kane finally found the back of the net for England, and it was glorious ..
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/football/world-cup-2022-follow-socceroos-v-argentina-live-final-teams-scores-and-result/news-story/02a8ac9d867ca1b66feb1ab36d680a99 .
The best way to silence your critics.
The skipper’s effort came soon after Jordan Henderson broke the deadlock with a belter of a goal from open play.
Jude Bellingham was crucial to both goals.
An intimidating showdown with France awaits England and they will no doubt have seen the insane performance put on by Kylian Mbappe earlier this morning.
The real jaw-dropper for England however has been Gareth Southgate’s decision to drop Marcus Rashford in favour of Bukayo Saka.
The criticism was widespread in the early stages of the match however, Southgate’s plans came to fruition with England’s third goal securing a quarter-final showdown with defending champions France.
While the majority will look to Mbappe’s incredible strike rate as a reason to tag England the underdogs, Mark Bosnich hailed Southgate’s men as true contenders.
“I don’t think they (England) were tested as much as France will test them but I think I was impressed by their patience,” e said.
“They were finding it difficult to break the press of Senegal and then when they had the opportunity they broke really quickly. They are deadly, when they break they have a lot of good, quick players and lethal players and we have seen in World Cups before.”
England striker Raheem Sterling was ruled out of the World Cup round of 16 match against Senegal due to unspecified family reasons.
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8AM KANE THRILLED
Not a surprise but you cannot wipe the grin of Harry Kane’s face right now.
Here’s what the England captain had to say.
“Really tough, knockout games are never easy,” he said. “We showed great maturity through the tournament, and 3-0 against a really good side, credit to the boys, the mentality was top from the beginning and we took our chances when they came.
“We feel good, we’ve got good runners and players getting forward, and then solid at the back. Three clean sheets in a row is really important. A really good day for us.”
And as for France?
“We enjoyed this one,” Kane added.
“But of course our focus turns straight to that. It is going to be a tough game, they are reigning champions, but it will be a good battle. We recovered nicely now and then get ready for the game.”
England's forward #09 Harry Kane eyes the ball
FULL-TIME: ENG 3-0 SENEGAL
It’s Coming Home (if we can beat the French) the newest version of the ‘96 Baddiel and Skinner classic - coming soon.
England with their most clinical performance of the Cup ease into the quarter-finals and it’s a somewhat terrifying clash with France coming their way at the weekend.
Bellingham was near perfect MOTM no doubt.
And a quick shout out to the Senegal fans that have made their matches SO much fun. 100% the best fans of the Cup for me.
80MINS: TIP THE HAT
For all the criticism he has copped in recent years and weeks, Gareth Southgate is getting all the big decisions right when he needs to.
Myself included, many were baffled by Saka getting the nod over Rashford but now we see his vision.
Won’t doubt the waistcoat again.
England's coach Gareth Southgate gives instructions to England's forward #07 Jack Grealish
FRENCH FREAK BETTER THAN MESSI, RONALDO AND PELE?
Kylian Mbappe said he dreamed of winning the World Cup for a second time after his brace helped France to a 3-1 win over Poland which advanced the holders to the quarter-finals in Qatar.
“Of course, this World Cup is an obsession for me, it’s the competition of my dreams,” said the 23-year-old who burst onto the global stage by starring when France won the title in Russia four years ago.
“I have built my season around this competition and around being ready both physically and mentally for it.
“I wanted to come here ready and so far things are going well, but we are still a long way from the objective we set and that I set.”
The Paris Saint-Germain superstar now has five goals in just four games at the tournament and is already France’s second-top scorer ever at the World Cup with nine goals in 11 appearances overall.
Only Just Fontaine, who scored an incredible 13 times at the 1958 tournament in Sweden, has more World Cup goals for France.
He’s also tied on World Cup goals scored with Lionel Messi (who has played five World Cups) and one ahead of Cristiano Ronaldo.
The striker’s double means he also surpasses Pele’s seven as the most ever for a player aged under 24.
At just 23, Mbappe will expect to eventually pass Miroslav Klose’s all-time WC record of 16 goals.
However Mbappe insisted he was not bothered about the prospect of winning the Golden Ball for the tournament’s best player.
“The only objective for me is to win the World Cup which means now to win the quarter-final,” said Mbappe, who also set up the opening goal against Poland for Olivier Giroud.
“That is what I am dreaming of. I didn’t come here to win the Golden Ball. That is not why I am here. I am here to win and help the French national team.”
ENGLAND SCORE: 2-0
No offence Harry Kane but it’s about bloody time mate. Finally scores his first of the tournament and it’s a fairly decent strike eh? Free flowing run from open play and a beauty of a strike just on the right of the 30 yard box. Stunning play from Bellingham - again
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/football/world-cup/fifa-world-cup-2022-live-scores-results-latest-news-from-qatar/news-story/2837e79e171824def3aac1efffb06aed
For young Americans, an honorable exit against a wave of Dutch goals.
The United States was eliminated by the Netherlands, 3-1, on Saturday.Credit...John Sibley/Reuters
AL RAYYAN, Qatar — The United States players doubled over at the final whistle, their white jerseys drenched in sweat, their faces twisted with exhaustion. They hung their heads and left them there.
The Americans had arrived in Qatar last month fresh-faced and with modest expectations. They were the second-youngest team at the tournament, representing a country returning to the World Cup for the first time in eight years. Qualifying for the tournament had been cause enough for celebration.
But the grandeur of the World Cup, with all the spirit and fanfare on the ground, has a way of making a group of players want more, of making them believe they can have it.
The Netherlands dashed those dreams — that little feeling of what if — in clinical fashion on Saturday night, exposing all the Americans’ deficiencies in a 3-1 loss before 44,846 fans at Khalifa International Stadium.
“This is a tough one obviously to swallow for us,” Coach Gregg Berhalter said. “The guys put everything they had into it. It’s such a good group of guys, such a close-knit group of guys, you just want more for them, and tonight we just came up short.”
The U.S. team will return home having achieved one small goal: vanquishing whatever lingering shame the program might have felt since 2017, when a previous team’s failure to qualify for the last World Cup triggered a yearslong period of rebuilding and soul searching. It may feel like it could have gone further.
But it was a satisfying result for the Netherlands, a team whose ambitions for this World Cup were made clear when its coach declared before the start of the round of 16 that his squad had four matches left to play. The Netherlands will play again on Friday night against the winner of Saturday’s late match between Argentina and Australia.
Ambition, for an American men’s soccer team, can be a trickier thing to articulate.
In 2014, the last time the United States participated in the World Cup, Jürgen Klinsmann, the team’s coach at the time, mused before a ball was even kicked that his group had no chance of winning the tournament. He said he was being realistic. Some fans in the United States responded by suggesting Klinsmann, a native of Germany, leave the country. (The team was eliminated that year in the round of 16.)
Heading into this year’s tournament, Berhalter assumed a safer, savvier stance. Whenever the subject of ambitions arose, he would say that he viewed the World Cup as two smaller tournaments. The first was the group stage where each of the 32 teams played three games. Berhalter said his only aim was to make it to the second, the knockout stage where 16 teams would eventually produce a champion and in theory anything could happen. It was a useful bit of rhetoric, a sort of verbal step-over dribble. But it was not hard to read between the lines. For his young U.S. team, anything after the group stage would be gravy.
In that sense, the United States and many of its fans will be generally pleased with the body of work the team produced in Qatar.
The United States largely outplayed Wales, its first opponent, only to let victory slip from its grasp with the concession of a late penalty kick, resulting in a 1-1 tie. It stood toe to toe with England, one of the tournament favorites, sparring to a scoreless draw that was celebrated like a win. It faced Iran in a pressure-packed, win-or-go-home final group-stage match soaked in geopolitics and, despite a nervous few moments in the dying minutes of the evening, delivered a 1-0 victory.
The players in those three games moved with cohesion. They ran hard and worked for one another. They played with a collective composure that belied their years.
“The potential is very clear in this group,” goalkeeper Matt Turner said.
All of that interconnectedness seemed to dissolve on Saturday.
The Netherlands, having been content to absorb pressure in the early moments of the game, opened the scoring in the 10th minute, capping a sweeping, full-field move — one that involved nearly two dozen passes — with a strike from Memphis Depay that whizzed into the lower left corner of the goal. Depay had been left wide open on the play, escaping the attention of the American defensive and midfield lines merely by loitering in the space between them.
Denzel Dumfries, who assisted Depay on the goal, supplied an almost identical pass for the Netherlands’ second goal just before halftime. Once again the American defense was caught flat-footed as Dumfries zipped the ball toward the front of the goal from the right wing. This time it was Daley Blind, the Dutch wingback, who slipped free from a defender to meet the pass and score.
The United States’ only goal came in the 76th minute and seemed to defy the laws of physics. Christian Pulisic drilled a cross into the box, and Haji Wright could only graze it by reaching back with the outside of his right foot, which was facing away from the goal. The ball jumped off Wright’s foot, looped parabolically into the air and curled somehow inside the left post.
Wright had given the Americans a lifeline at 2-1, but Dumfries pulled it away five minutes later when he finished from close range after he was left unmarked, again, by the U.S. defense.
“In the past three games, I’d say we defended really, really well,” midfielder Tyler Adams said. “And today, the three goals come from moments where we were probably sleeping a little bit.”
In the general American consciousness, which seems to become attuned to the doings of its national soccer squad only once every four years, the team may now enter a period of suspended animation. Other games and competitions will return once again to the foreground of the country’s sports landscape.
But behind the scenes the gears will keep turning. Berhalter is nearing the end of a four-year contract, and a decision will soon have to be made, by the coach and team, about whether he should stay on for another four-year term to nurture and shape the squad before the 2026 World Cup.
“In the next couple weeks, I’ll clear my head, sit down and think about what’s next,” Berhalter said.
That tournament — for which the United States, Canada and Mexico will serve as joint hosts — has loomed large over this current team. It will mark the return of the world’s most-watched sporting event to North America since the 1994 World Cup. It will also be seen as the moment when the core of this young team should collectively enter its prime.
The current tournament may, by then, be dismissed by some as a dress rehearsal, a chance for the players, talented but still very green, to wet their feet. In that regard, it was a success. Pulisic, Tim Weah and Wright fulfilled childhood dreams by scoring their first World Cup goals. Adams, handed full-time captain duties for the tournament, established himself as the heartbeat of the team, the person turning its emotional dial from the center of midfield.
But after a tournament when so many things went right, and a night when so many things went wrong, there may linger a niggling feeling that they could have had more.
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/12/03/sports/usa-netherlands-world-cup-score#us-out-world-cup-netherlands
Yep, it evened out quite fairly in the end. It would have been super-extra special if that last Australia shot had gone in. The 18y-old has never started a world cup game .. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garang_Kuol . It would have been a hell of a way to end one.
All out now. Shooks, Still we all got there -- U.S. eliminated from World Cup after 3-1 loss to Netherlands
"Mexico needs 4-0 win !!!!"
Updated on: December 3, 2022 / 12:30 PM / CBS/AP
The United States men's soccer team has been eliminated from the World Cup after a 3-1 loss to the Netherlands.
It was a disappointing end for a rebuilt U.S. team hoping to advance past the round of 16 for the first time since 2002. Using the second-youngest squad in the tournament, the Americans achieved the bare minimum to consider the World Cup a success, beating Iran in their group-stage finale to reach the knockout round.
[ Insert: Ghana the youngest. LOL In Australia commentators keep talking about the "young Australian team", now i see it's the 10th oldest ..
https://www.sportskeeda.com/football/news-fifa-world-cup-2022-which-teams-youngest-oldest-squads-tournament-qatar ]
But just like in 2010 against Ghana and 2014 against Belgium, the United States was eliminated in the round of 16.
The Americans are winless in 12 games against European opponents at the World Cup since 2002, losing six, and are 1-7 during the tournament's knockout rounds.
Tyler Adams (L) and Walker Zimmerman react after they lost the Qatar 2022 World Cup round of 16 match between the Netherlands and USA at Khalifa International Stadium in Doha on December 3, 2022. ALBERTO PIZZOLI/AFP via Getty Images
Captain Tyler Adams said .. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/usa-vs-netherlands-world-cup-knockout-stage/ .. ahead of Saturday's match the U.S. team was going to have to give it their all. They went into the game as underdogs — a role U.S. Soccer is used to, men's national team defender Walker Zimmerman told CBS News on Friday.
"I think it's kind of what has made our team so special, is the resiliency that we have, that competitive spirit that every team before us has had," he said.
[LOL another thing which is repeatedly said about the Australians.
Every coach and commentator says it about their own team.]
Netherlands' Memphis Depay and Daley Blind scored in the first half and Denzel Dumfries added a late goal.
Second-half substitute Haji Wright cut the U.S. deficit to 2-1 in the 76th minute when Christian Pulisic's cross hit his trailing foot and popped over goalkeeper Andries Noppert and into the net. But Dumfries, who assisted on the first two goals, scored on a volley in the 81st.
Pulisic, playing four days after getting hurt during his game-winning goal against Iran, had a chance to put the United States ahead in the third minute but Noppert, playing in only his fourth international match, blocked his point-blank shot. With the Americans seeking an equalizing goal, Noppert dived to stop Tim Weah's 25-yard effort in the 42nd.
The crowd of 44,846 was well back from the field at renovated Khalifa International Stadium, which has an athletics track and was more subdued than the raucous spectators for the match against Iran.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/usa-eliminated-world-cup-3-1-loss-netherlands/
Tough miss at the end smothered by the Argentina keeper---evens out a bit with the Aussie goal to get back in it taking a crazy deflection when it really would have been several yards wide...
Yep, was a costly ouch. Matty Ryan had a good cup time overall, but that one yO yO yO.
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/socceroos-eliminated-from-world-cup-after-2-1-loss-to-argentina/hmd6i7mm3
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