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with 20 minutes to go---Spain and Germany are on the outside lookin in---
edit: Gemany scores and puts Spain back in
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Germany kept its hopes alive with a late goal against Spain, good enough for a 1-1 draw. It’s in last place in the group, but it’s in a surprisingly strong position to advance to the Round of 16. It advances if it beats Costa Rica and Spain beats Japan. There are other paths if Japan wins or if Spain and Japan tie, but the simplest path for Germany is to win and for Spain to win.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/upshot/world-cup-standings.html?name=styln-world-cup®ion=TOP_BANNER&block=storyline_menu_recirc&action=click&pgtype=LegacyCollection&variant=show&is_new=false
Germany needs Spain to win and Germany needs to win to get in.
The outcome was secure so it's a moot point.
Szczesny, the old Arsenal keeper, is keeping Poland on top of the table at the half---a half in which Argentina shredded them--penalty stop on Messi has been the difference along with his other 8 saves to this point...
There is an unspoken level of respect in sports when the outcome of your game may affect the standings of others in a group scenario--it's called sportmanship....
I get resting players---but "letting other players get the experience' is something done when the outcome is secure---not at the expense of others-and is laughable
if Denmark tied the Aussies, which looked likely in the final 10 minutes, the French decision would have been condemned worldwide...
it's why they start the group finales simultaneously to try to avoid The Disgrace of Gigon--in case you missed it.
France defeated Denmark, 2-1, and became the first team to clinch a berth in the Round of 16. It will almost certainly advance as the top seed in the group, even if it loses its final match of group play against Tunisia.
glad to see you guys win your way in or there would have been some howling the way France sat 9 starters today--allowing Tunisia to qualify with an Australia draw or less..
France was already a lock to move on. What you are missing is letting the other players get the experience of playing in the WC.
That would have been fun!
Should have taken a small wager against those doubters had you seen the French lineup sheet
Two all always negative Aussies at the pub scoffed at my $5 bet on the Aussies against Tunisia. When i told them yesterday i'd just backed the Socceroos again they both laughed. One said they will NEVER win. When i reminded him that's what he said the last time he protested in his own defense, "But they hadn't won in 12 years." When i just looked at him and said so??? he emphatically protested a 2nd time, repeating his bleat. Haha. Got $3.80 this time. Look out Messi. IF Or Saudi Arabia!! Save you guys for later.
So glad you guys got through too.
"glad to see you guys win your way in or there would have been some howling the way
France sat 9 starters today--allowing Tunisia to qualify with an Australia draw or less..
P - this would be talked about in the same breath as the West Germany vs Austria disgrace in the 1982 WC"
Yep, sure would have been. So it's now for me, yet again, to your genius for stats:
Oh and yes when one of them said if France lose, i said, yeah if that happens it will be a fix.
The Disgrace of Gijon: West Germany and Austria’s match of shame at 1982 World Cup
Daniel Taylor Nov 15, 2022
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Every student of World Cup scandal has heard about the game that has gone down in history as the Disgrace of Gijon.
It was an orchestrated act of theft involving West Germany and Austria and a swindle that still has the capacity to invoke feelings of anger and shame for anyone who ever wanted to believe in the so-called Beautiful Game.
What is not so well known is that the referee that day was a Scotsman taking charge of his first ever World Cup match.
“We were about 20 minutes in before I started getting a bad feeling. I started thinking, ‘There’s not much tackling taking place here, you know.’ Then one guy got over the halfway line, stopped with the ball and sent it all the way back to his goalkeeper. Instead of putting it into the opposition box, he played it backwards. That was the moment when I realised something was wrong.”
These were the days when the final group-stage matches of football tournaments did not have to be played simultaneously. This was the last fixture and that meant they knew all the different permutations to qualify. The two teams had worked out that a 1-0 win for West Germany would be enough for them both to progress at the expense of Algeria.
Horst Hrubesch opened the scoring for West Germany after 11 minutes and, at that stage, there was at least a semblance of competition and drama. But it quickly became clear it was all a deception.
https://theathletic.com/3643998/2022/11/15/west-germany-austria-disgrace-of-gijon-world-cup/
Congrats!!!--now on to a hopeful quarterfinal matchup with the US of A
glad to see you guys win your way in or there would have been some howling the way France sat 9 starters today--allowing Tunisia to qualify with an Australia draw or less..
this would be talked about in the same breath as the West Germany vs Austria disgrace in the 1982 WC
Mexico needs 4-0 win !!!!
First ever consecutive World Cup wins, Australia!! Thank you!!!! NOW
Mexico can advance with a win, but only if Poland beats Argentina; a Mexico win and a draw in Poland-Argentina would send it to a tiebreaker with Argentina, who currently have a three goal advantage in goal differential over El Tri. Anything less than a win would eliminate Mexico from the tournament
1-0 Oi Oi Oi. Back to bed to lucky position.
France have given Tunisia a shot in that group by sitting 9 starters today...
Come on Australia !!!
Ok, must have been interesting. Happy memories, i hope. Still, no way your allegiance will be split, eh. And
you wouldn't have to be told that many aren't sure of the difference between Holland and The Netherlands ..
https://www.holland.com/global/tourism/information/general/netherlands-vs-holland.htm .
Be careful the Dutch practice balance by walking along the highest ridge of dikes.
I lived in Holland for 4 1/2 years
USA v Holland!!!
YAYAYAYAYAYAYAYAYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! USA!
1-0 USA!! Just woke as they scored!!!! Also, as waking was thinking 2-0.
Tyler Adams mispronounced Iran and was called out by an Iranian journalist - who followed up with a question on discrimination in the United States.
— Stu Holden (@stuholden) November 28, 2022
His response: An all time classy answer- Captain & Leader. #USMNT 👏 pic.twitter.com/pELQmBttPl
USA USA USA vs Iran at 2PM EST !! USA must win!!! WIN WIN !!
Analysis: At Qatar World Cup, Mideast tensions spill into stadiums
By Maya Gebeily and Charlotte Bruneau
November 28, 2022 5:44 PM CST Last Updated 2 hours ago
Summary
* Iran games a flashpoint for pro- and anti-government fans
* Emir Tamim dons Saudi flag at Argentine game
* Qatar allows Israeli fans to fly in to attend Cup
* Doha hopes smooth Cup will boost global influence
DOHA, Nov 28 (Reuters) - The first World Cup in the Middle East has become a showcase for the political tensions crisscrossing one of the world's most volatile regions and the ambiguous role often played by host nation Qatar in its crises.
Iran's matches have been the most politically charged as fans voice support for protesters who have been boldly challenging the clerical leadership at home. They have also proved diplomatically sensitive for Qatar which has good ties to Tehran.
Pro-Palestinian sympathies among fans have also spilt into stadiums as four Arab teams compete. Qatari players have worn pro-Palestinian arm-bands, even as Qatar has allowed Israeli fans to fly in directly for the first time
Even the Qatari Emir has engaged in politically significant acts, donning a Saudi flag during its historic defeat of Argentina - notable support for a country with which he has been mending ties strained by regional tensions.
Such gestures have added to the political dimensions of a tournament mired in controversy even before kickoff over the treatment of migrant workers and LGBT+ rights in the conservative host country, where homosexuality is illegal.
The stakes are high for Qatar, which hopes a smooth tournament will cement its role on the global stage and in the Middle East, where it has survived as an independent state since 1971 despite numerous regional upheavals
The first Middle Eastern nation to host the World Cup, Qatar has often seemed a regional maverick: it hosts the Palestinian Islamist group Hamas but has also previously had some trade relations with Israel.
It has given a platform to Islamist dissidents deemed a threat by Saudi Arabia and its allies, while befriending Riyadh's foe Iran - and hosting the largest U.S. military base in the region.
AN 'INNER CONFLICT'
Tensions in Iran, swept by more than two months of protests ignited by the death of 22-year-old Mahsa Amini after she was arrested for flouting strict dress codes, have been reflected inside and outside the stadiums.
Latest Updates
* Analysis: At Qatar World Cup, Mideast tensions spill into stadiums
* Saudi Arabia announces plans for six-runway hub airport in Riyadh
* Soccer Iran's Queiroz dismisses 'mental games', hopes less politics at next World Cup
* Iran's future on U.N. women's rights body to be decided Dec. 14
"We wanted to come to the World Cup to support the people of Iran because we know it's a great opportunity to speak for them," said Shayan Khosravani, a 30-year-old Iranian-American fan who had been intending to visit family in Iran after attending the games but cancelled that plan due to the protests.
But some say stadium security have stopped them from showing their backing for the protests. At Iran's Nov. 25 match against Wales, security denied entry to fans carrying Iran's pre-Revolution flag and T-shirts with the protest slogan "Woman, Life, Freedom" and "Mahsa Amini".
After the game, there was tension outside the ground between opponents and supporters of the Iranian government.
Two fans who argued with stadium security on separate occasions over the confiscations told Reuters they believed that policy stemmed from Qatar's ties with Iran.
[...]
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/qatar-world-cup-mideast-tensions-spill-into-stadiums-2022-11-28/
LOLOL Tall poppy gets mocked. Street-talk, the last one, is the best.
Not sure about the was. But at 37 time has passed him by. The Man U thing is definitely a distraction.
No denying he WAS a fantastic player and one of the best ever---doesn't change the fact he was/is a putz
LOL. He is also one hell of a soccer player.
https://www.forbes.com/profile/cristiano-ronaldo/?sh=245727ab565d
Ronaldo is a spoiled brat--wonder if he's pissed at all these guys
Chuckle .. Love the upsets! World Cup 2022: Ghana stuns South Korea in latest tournament upset
Mohammed Kudus scored a clutch goal late in the game
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/world-cup-2022-ghana-stuns-south-korea-latest-tournament-upset
Slept through it, but great to see Ghana still having fun ..
Cristiano Ronaldo rages after rival's cheeky act at World Cup
Andrew Reid Fri, 25 November 2022 at 9:49 am
https://au.sports.yahoo.com/fifa-world-cup-2022-cristiano-ronaldo-rages-ghana-rival-siuu-celebration-224908561.html
Surely Ronaldo was more upset about the goal. Headlines as that based on reaction only without
knowing why for sure, suck. Though if Ronaldo was upset at being copied so do prima donna positions.
Right now only Mexico and Germany is not looking to make the quarter finals. And I had them not advancing from there.
But,
Germany kept its hopes alive with a late goal against Spain, good enough for a 1-1 draw. It’s in last place in the group, but it’s in a surprisingly strong position to advance to the Round of 16. It advances if it beats Costa Rica and Spain beats Japan. There are other paths if Japan wins or if Spain and Japan tie, but the simplest path for Germany is to win and for Spain to win.
And Mexico has no hope.
Mexico’s chances of advancing are narrow but not impossible: If Mexico beats Saudi Arabia and Poland beats Argentina, it will head to the Round of 16. If Mexico wins but Argentina beats Poland, Mexico would need a hefty goal differential to move ahead of Poland for the second-place spot in Group C. Mexico could also advance if it wins and the other group game is a tie, but again it would depend on tiebreakers like goal differential.
Your bracket will be done tomorrow -- at least for one of the finals team
That is a bold prediction. I have Argentina in the finals.
Anywhere he wants to go. Yankees have already made him an offer and mentioned throwing in the Yankee captaincy. He spent Thanksgiving week on the west coast visiting the Dodgers and Giants.
Poland will beat Argentina in 2 days
Messi has never won a WC and at 35 the clock is ticking.
Ghana scores!!! Ghanians going crazy,, S. Koreans fans pulling their hair and tears coming down!!
S. Korea 2 goals in 3 minutes to tie 2-2 vs Ghana. 30 Minutes to go !!
Two very exciting games so far this morning
What a shame. Ridiculous rioters who grab at every opportunity to vent their destructive wants on the great
majority of decent people everywhere. Mostly Bannon and other far-right anarchistically-inspired, i'd guess.
Riots in Belgium, Netherlands after Morocco win at World Cup
By RAF CASERT yesterday
Police cars drive through a main boulevard in Brussels, Sunday, Nov. 27, 2022, as violence broke out during and after Morocco's 2-0 win over Belgium at the World Cup. Police had to seal off parts of the center of Brussels and moved in with water cannons and tear gas to disperse crowds.
(AP Photo/Geert Vanden Wijngaert)
BRUSSELS (AP) — Riots broke out in several Belgian and Dutch cities after Morocco’s 2-0 upset win over Belgium at the World Cup Sunday.
Police detained about a dozen people after they deployed water cannons and fire tear gas to disperse crowds in Brussels and eight more in the Northern city of Antwerp. Two police officials were injured in the Dutch port city of Rotterdam. By late evening Sunday, an uneasy calm had returned to most of the cities involved.
Dozens of rioters overturned and torched cars, set electric scooters on fire and pelted cars with bricks. Police moved in after one person suffered facial injuries, said Brussels police spokeswoman Ilse Van de Keere.
Brussels mayor Philippe Close urged people to stay away from the city center and said authorities were doing their utmost to keep order in the streets. Even subway and tram traffic had to be interrupted on police orders.
“Those are not fans, they are rioters. Moroccan fans are there to celebrate,” Close said. There were also disturbances in the city of Antwerp and Liege.
“Sad to see how a few individuals abuse a situation to run amok,” said Interior Minister Annelies Verlinden.
Police in the neighboring Netherlands said violence erupted in the port city of Rotterdam, with riot officers attempting to break up a group of 500 soccer supporters who pelted police with fireworks and glass. Media reported unrest in the capital Amsterdam and The Hague.
Morocco’s victory was a major upset at the World Cup and was enthusiastically celebrated by fans with Moroccan immigrant roots in many Belgian and Dutch cities.
https://apnews.com/article/world-cup-soccer-sports-belgium-europe-0a3a98b194538517a44f89280d35b947?utm_source=apnews&utm_medium=featuredcard&utm_campaign=rightrailstory_02
Not sure---crazy money on the table in front of him---he grew up a Giants fan dunno if that plays a factor---am hoping Rizzo re-signing sways him a bit as they are best buds----a Yankee Captainship awaits but, if he decides otherwise, I hope it's sooner than later so the Yanks can go shoppin' with that dough before the free agent shelves are cleaned out
AP PHOTOS: World Cup highlights from Day 8
By The Associated Press
yesterday
https://apnews.com/article/world-cup-sports-soccer-international-d2f368c018b8366c5ffb1d86c35be78c
When they win. USA, Mexico, Australia. Let it be!!! And Hey. good luck to you and your daughter in your weekend championship ... coach.
Where is Judge headed? Dodgers?
If we (USA) win, and play Holland on Saturday that number will much higher. My daughter has a soccer State Championship tournament on Saturday. Under 14 team, I am the assistant coach for our county All-Star team.
LOL Humble too. My beer pong has suffered greatly since they put me on the blood tablets. Am a real cheap-dizzy drinker now.
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