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The Topic is now about getting alittle of what we invested..
You guys!!!!
He asked me to get ahold of him!!! Really put it back up...
StumpJumper,
I have a block of shares that I would like to sell you.
Contact me as soon as you can.
Thanks,
Stocksurf15
How is that possible?
I just picked up,,
a block of shares and waiting for another to makeup their mind.. I feel its a great thing!!
Yes this board is dead along with the company
This board has gone totally quiet and I guess our investment in this stock is now and forever worthless. Mr. Simmonds will be getting away with it I guess. I've heard nothing of any investigations of any kind. Does anyone have anything to report?
I did not attend.
So Neil,,
is this to say you will be getting back with me??
Well the last price I could find was .02 and I was about to increase my bid to to it. I have had 2 offers so far with no reply back. We'll see..
Just curious if you attended the WSLA meeting or any other shareholders?
Really curious about the outcome and just how many "promises" were made by CS and the dream team.
$.02/share is a little higher than it was trading for when the stock was halted. I'm a little shocked you're willing to do this?
I don't think there is much more anyone can do.
We could have gotten 10 c a year ago.
Does anyone have any idea what action(s) makes the most sense at this point? If anyone has some ideas please let us know.
Bustalk
It is the heart of any scam , pretend you have some big secret that is going to make a FEW people a lot of money. It's the bait , reality will say , " now why would he be offering such a great deal to only a selected few ? From a pure business standpoint it is actually backwards." When raising capital it is more advantageous to enlist as many subscribers as possible .
But when you do some research on the ponzi scheme artists you will find that offering something special to a selected few is how they engage your trust . Rule # 1
So Jig Saw , have you signed the NDA?
Sorry to have to bring reality into fairy tale land >
We need your help , are you in ?
You know what really happened , are you willing to tell someone ?
Crazy thought but how do you know no one has a legal action(s) already on the go ?
What BS you have to sign an NDA to attend a shareholders meeting to see what happened to your money. By signing the NDA this will mean if you do not like what you hear you cannot tell other or use it in a court as it will be deemed confidential. I love it now JS is a regulator. May as well let William Gacy open up a daycare.
This meeting is only open to people who find out about it through social media. Imagine if you were a shareholder who only had a mailbox.
All your shareholder rights are intact other than your right to be given notice of shareholder meetings or to attend them without agreeing to new onerous conditions.
Here's my response from my email to js:
I'm a stock holder in wlsa, I don't really understand what happened to it. Am I out all of my money? Or what?
Neil
No. its now private but your shareholder rights are intact. I need proof of your share holding and a non disclosure agreement signed before I can give you additional information. I will send you the nda and you can sign it and return it by fax at 905 8339847 or scan it and email back to me. We are having a shareholder meeting next week which you are welcome to participate in if we receive the nda back before hand.
lolol. you call that a blessing? thanks for the humor. let me paraphrase what the sec said; " we don't care if you become a private company or not, however, you will not be a public company."
you do know that the sec does not regulate private companies, right?
if you have shares call simmonds. 416 578 4000 or email him at jgs@vertility.com
the rest is 9209 on top of the cover page
I have been following WLSA for many years and have over 100k shares. I actually believed the things that Brad had to say. He sounded so honest. Of course the other supporters also strung us along. I guess the only one who had it right was "Sunny"
It's not even all there....
yes, the post implied that the sec gave the company it's blessing to go private.
Are you speaking of the company becoming private The original message is gone so i am trying to connect the dot's , so to speak .
X files to donkey kong ! lol
Please let us know when everyone will be authorized to post again . I will make sure to bring out my cloak and dagger in the event someone will spill the beans on the next plot . lol
Good luck , once you get saddled as a scam artist it NEVER goes away .
and blessed by the SEC
what total nonsense. no such sec proceedure exists.
Imagine this nonsense, if you are a shareholder of record you can call the CEO and hear the deal he has for you. In other words he will take your temperature to see if he can extract more $$$ from you or mitigate your want to sue him. So if you are not on this site you are out of the room and thus out of the deal. More distraction JS is just watching the postings to see if everyone will go away in my opinion. Notice Brad hasn't had an intelligent comment back, I wonder where he shoved off too?
The Form 7 for Newlook Industries Corp. is dated July 31, 2012.
Item 2 states that the management hopes to have audited statements by the end of July.
Maybe Jig Saw you should pay closer attention to details.
By my calendar today is August 22, 2012.
Thanks , you wouldn't happen to have a copy of that ? Also i would assume that you have spoken to JS to get this up to date info on WLSA. You didn't manage to ask him why he couldn't be bothered to report ?
I am sorry if i seem a little sceptical but the land of fairy tales has become more representative of an X files episode. I think we were told that WLSA was going to file just before it was revoked ?
So , given that, should we be prepared for NLI to be revoked as well?
Not to press too hard but what do you mean by " shortly " ? Unofficially of course.
How can anyone be a supporter at this point? This stock is not just halted but rather de-registered meaning that holders of 10's of millions of shares are now left with nothing.
One has to question whether management is just trying to mitigate any potential law suits. I can't see how any independent shareholder can remain a supporter of either this company or anyone in its management.
Well there you have it a poster with deep information. It turns out it was all a misunderstanding New Look who promised to file in June is about to file, if you are a shareholder of record you can call JS privately to hear where your $$$ went and to hear how you are going to make it back. Well I think the shareholders of record should all give him a call and record his answer.
if you read the second judge's ruling who actually heard the appeal acknowledged that the affidavit signed by the cfo of sasktel contained falsehoods and since the first judge based his ruling on these mispresentations he opened the door for wlsa to take legal action. thus a settlement was reached between the parties. all of this is disclosed in the consolidated audited statements of new look for 2010 which also includes the audited statements of wlsa. the 2011 audited statements for both companies will be filed shortly with the osc. as far as wlsa is concerned it is now private and any shareholder can communicate with the management of the company to enquire as to their rights and interests going forward. the only requirement is you must prove you are a shareholder of record. i trust this is helpful in your pursuit of the facts. john simmonds cell has been posted on this site in the past but here it is again. 416 578 4000
Sure looks like CS is enjoying you shareholders money
Long vacations, and golf every week..... what did you all get?
How come none of you are moving forward with legal action.
AT THE VERY LEAST IT WOULD BRING RED FLAGS TO ANYONE THAT WANTS TO INVEST WITH CS IN THE FUTURE
I would have to suggest that you know more , maybe you could tell us what happened ? I am sure everyone would love to hear your version .
I simply read what was on actual SIGNED affidavits and published judges decisions .
i am very interested in why they " settled for " 8 mil in forgiveness?
An explanation as to why WLSA didn't file would also be great , is reckless disregard for the shareholders of a public co a viable option? With all the press that he was spitting out about W to E ( much of it you posted ) , do you think he would have the time to scribble out a statement to the shareholders with an explanation as to why their investment is gone ? Maybe you could post that for everyone to read ?
if sasktel was so wronged why did they settle for forgiveness of over 8 million dollars. it seems that there is more to this than what you have posted. perhaps you can do some more research to see what exactly transpired
I agree people are starting to connect the dots concerning this Company. Before the internet it would have been impossible to track this behaviour.People need to know how they were duped.
As the documents reveal Simmonds and Co were moving money to Newlook to essentially fund themselves . So much so that the operating company couldn't meets it's obligations ? And even when he was asked to stop moving money he continued to do so . It was that mistrust that forced Sasktel to protect their interest.
And in classic Simmonds style blames the insolvency position on the fact that Sasktel was withholding payment to try and recover the millions they were owed. Thank God the judge could see through his bull.
How many times do you think he has pulled this scam? Reading some of the press he routinely blamed issues at Fanotech on the owners , while they in turn they said the main problem was the massive amount of money leaving the company . Hmmm , sounds familiar.
From what i can see he has ben robbing Peter to pay Paul for better than 5 years now . Funny thing is he claims to be a financial genius. MAdoff claimed the same thing !
I would bet JS is trying to mitigate his damages,remember his management team and insiders bought a large piece of JS's private placement. They had knowledge of how JS operated and therefore make them dangerous in a courtroom. Making them an offer to get their $$$ back through Lumonall would make sense. If they accepted an offer they would reduce their ability to sue him and recover their $$$ through proper channels. I am sure a lot of this will come out in court documents or a regulatory review.
That's what I kept trying to stay but a certain poster kept assuring us that it couldn't be him cuz he (simmonds) "has" to file. Really? He HAS to does he??!!
Who else has those kind of shares to sell. Man were we duped!
I am interested in the sworn statement Gabe made that there were replicated accounts set up at the TD Bank that drained money from Fanotech.At first I thought this cannot be true but the deeper I dig the more suspicious I become.I do not understand why anyone would hand over the financial reigns of a Company before the purchase agreement was signed.The only way to make sure the truth does not get exposed is bankrupt the company and never do the filings. Why do you think the CFO's left and Auditors? I suspect JS liquidated during that promote period when he said he had no shares if not him who?
This makes me sick to my stomach. And to think that the Simmonds group was selling all spring right under our noses while we were being assured by a poster whose name I shall not use that "there's no way JS is selling".
How naive are we?
http://www.mnpdebt.ca/media/documents/Wireless/Written%20Decision%20of%20Justice%20Herauf%20-%20January%2027,%202009.pdf
This is the Judge's ruling and the interesting part is about intent.This is what I was commenting about.
Is that brief part of the stuff that was posted earlier . If not is there a way you can post it . Does the judge actually use that wording?It sounds all too familiar .
Quite a bit of good reading so far .
Moving money so the rightful owners of it can't get it ? Sounds totally above board. lol .
You were??? That said...after all of this you're still willing to invest in this con man's ventures?
I read the Judge's decision and he stated that JS and team had no intention of paying their debt and moved the money to New Look, boy does this sound familiar. That is why the Judge understood Sastel's position of protecting it assets.
we were discussing gwir
"i'm trying to see if there is a pattern here and therefore predictable behaviour. if this is truly a scam then maybe we can figure out an appropriate time to get in and then exit with a profit"
Don't you think it's a little late for that???
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